HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (7 Viewers)

[mad sweeney]

Short promo

Spoiler

So they let Dinklage keep his nose, eh? I'm outraged!

Spoiler

Maybe not. They could put a little green end cap on his nose and so some cgi on it. That way he wouldn't have to have green zinc oxide on his shnoz all day.

Rob looks like he might've been hanging out with Val Kilmer lately.

And Thiros of Myr and his flaming sword!

Spoiler

Umm, that was Beric, when they captured Sandor, and he requests his trial by battle

Ummmm, ok. Ummmm, sure. Ummmm, one eye and a flaming sword while the interviewee is talking about new characters. Ummmm, whatever you ummm, say.

 

[Super King]

Short promo

Spoiler

So they let Dinklage keep his nose, eh? I'm outraged!

Spoiler

Maybe not. They could put a little green end cap on his nose and so some cgi on it. That way he wouldn't have to have green zinc oxide on his shnoz all day.

Rob looks like he might've been hanging out with Val Kilmer lately.

And Thiros of Myr and his flaming sword!

Spoiler

Umm, that was Beric, when they captured Sandor, and he requests his trial by battle

Ummmm, ok. Ummmm, sure. Ummmm, one eye and a flaming sword while the interviewee is talking about new characters. Ummmm, whatever you ummm, say.Why are you such an #######? Irish curse?

 

[mad sweeney]

Short promo

Spoiler

So they let Dinklage keep his nose, eh? I'm outraged!

Spoiler

Maybe not. They could put a little green end cap on his nose and so some cgi on it. That way he wouldn't have to have green zinc oxide on his shnoz all day.

Spoiler

Rob looks like he might've been hanging out with Val Kilmer lately.

And Thiros of Myr and his flaming sword!

Spoiler

Umm, that was Beric, when they captured Sandor, and he requests his trial by battle

Ummmm, ok. Ummmm, sure. Ummmm, one eye and a flaming sword while the interviewee is talking about new characters. Ummmm, whatever you ummm, say.Why are you such an #######? Irish curse?Ummm, I thought that's how you wanted to discuss this. Starting a reply to someone with ummm is a pretty clear sign of sarcastic dooshbaggery. Sorry you can't take the way you choose to talk to people.

 

[Kraft...]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

 

[Brady Marino]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

Spoiler

I'm not a big reader anymore (much to my detriment, I know), but I couldn't finish Clash of Kings because Martin just meanders all over hell. One of the biggest bugaboos I had about The Passage and The Twelve was, what I felt, was extraneous info that added little to the story. And yet, at least the books were at least somewhat progressing towards a solution. Song of Ice and Fire seems like Lord of the Rings in a soap opera form. I think it's much better on TV than it is in book form. But that's just me.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Blackwater is such a great episode. The only thing I didn't like was how Stannis fighting was handled and how that was edited. It seemed disjointed.

 

[gandalas]

2 more months!

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

There's a new sample chapter for The Winds of Winter.I'm avoiding reading them though. I will re-read all the books in anticipation of the release date though. I figure we will get ample notice.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

There's a new sample chapter for The Winds of Winter.I'm avoiding reading them though. I will re-read all the books in anticipation of the release date though. I figure we will get ample notice.

Is this the new book after Dragons?

 

[mad sweeney]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

 

[Kiddnets]

can't wait for the season 2 DVD - few weeks away!

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

Talk of this season's issues of two important events from A Storm of Swords

Spoiler

I doubt we get both this season, although it's possible because then next season's big drama's could be Tyrion's trial, Shae's betrayal, and Tyrion's double murder. Would they really kill off Robb and Joff in the same season though? They still need ratings. It truly would be the best season of TV ever if they did both. They'd need the Red Wedding to be just past the half-way point of the season though, and Joff's the finale perhaps.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

There's a new sample chapter for The Winds of Winter.I'm avoiding reading them though. I will re-read all the books in anticipation of the release date though. I figure we will get ample notice.

Is this the new book after Dragons?

Yes.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

Spoiler

I'm not a big reader anymore (much to my detriment, I know), but I couldn't finish Clash of Kings because Martin just meanders all over hell. One of the biggest bugaboos I had about The Passage and The Twelve was, what I felt, was extraneous info that added little to the story. And yet, at least the books were at least somewhat progressing towards a solution. Song of Ice and Fire seems like Lord of the Rings in a soap opera form. I think it's much better on TV than it is in book form. But that's just me.

Spoiler

DwD was absolutely maddening, especially after suffering through A Feast For Crows. I'd really like the time back that Martin just stole from me. Here's my impression of his newly found "bore em to tears" writing style:Step 1 - Be sure to include multiple chapters about new characters who appear from nowhere with no explanation of who they are or how they relate to any previous storylineStep 2 - Even in chapters about main characters who we've developed relationships with, be sure to introduce every g.d. minor and unimportant bit player. Spend pages detailing conversations between said bit players. Divert attention from anything interesting and confuse the reader as much as possibleStep 3 - Make the last page of each chapter interesting and with an unresolved cliff-hangerStep 4 - If something of interest does occur, be sure to spend as little time on it as possible. Jon Snow got killed, oh that is worth 2 paragraphs. 3 if you count the blurb about Ghost freaking out. Don't explain anything else about it. "For the watch". ok great, i can wait another 5 years to figure out what that meansStep 5 - Tease your reader...for at least 1000 pages. 1800 if you count books 4 and 5. Make sure nothing of consequence happens. if it does, refer to step 4Step 6 - Spend years writing the follow up book thus prolonging the agony of any poor sap who is now invested in the storylines. Well, the story lines from books 1-3 anyway seeing as how there are none from 4 & 5in summary, spend pages and pages writing about the weather, clothing, and food. Tie up each chapter with 1 page of moderately interesting plot and leave a major cliffhanger at the end of every stupid chapter. Don't return to that cliffhanger for years...literally

 

[Thunderlips]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

Talk of this season's issues of two important events from A Storm of Swords

Spoiler

I doubt we get both this season, although it's possible because then next season's big drama's could be Tyrion's trial, Shae's betrayal, and Tyrion's double murder. Would they really kill off Robb and Joff in the same season though? They still need ratings. It truly would be the best season of TV ever if they did both. They'd need the Red Wedding to be just past the half-way point of the season though, and Joff's the finale perhaps.

They won't or can't IMO. I was watching reruns of it the other day and realized that when a lot of the dust of the books settles

Spoiler

the show could really take a hit in viewership. Ned,Robert,Renly,Drogo,Joffery,Robb,Tywin,Catelyn,Jeor Mormont...all dead and Tyrion exiled,Loras Tyrell severely injured, Jorah banished from the Khalisi,Theon gone....that's more or less most of the main characters from the first couple of seasons. They're either going to have to drag stuff out to extend these characters on the television or count on the Briene, Jon Snow, Cersi and Jamie characters (and Actors) to carry most of the water. I can't remember a show that would have such turnover in characters in such a short time.I also hope that they don't foreshadow Robb's demise too much as that could be an "all-time" television shock moment....even more so than Neds death.

 

[Moe.]

There's a new sample chapter for The Winds of Winter.I'm avoiding reading them though. I will re-read all the books in anticipation of the release date though. I figure we will get ample notice.

You have a link? I can only find the one that's been up for awhile now.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

There's a new sample chapter for The Winds of Winter.I'm avoiding reading them though. I will re-read all the books in anticipation of the release date though. I figure we will get ample notice.

You have a link? I can only find the one that's been up for awhile now.

This might be the same one you are talking about:http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html

 

[Mario Kart]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

Talk of this season's issues of two important events from A Storm of Swords

Spoiler

I doubt we get both this season, although it's possible because then next season's big drama's could be Tyrion's trial, Shae's betrayal, and Tyrion's double murder. Would they really kill off Robb and Joff in the same season though? They still need ratings. It truly would be the best season of TV ever if they did both. They'd need the Red Wedding to be just past the half-way point of the season though, and Joff's the finale perhaps.

They won't or can't IMO. I was watching reruns of it the other day and realized that when a lot of the dust of the books settles

Spoiler

the show could really take a hit in viewership. Ned,Robert,Renly,Drogo,Joffery,Robb,Tywin,Catelyn,Jeor Mormont...all dead and Tyrion exiled,Loras Tyrell severely injured, Jorah banished from the Khalisi,Theon gone....that's more or less most of the main characters from the first couple of seasons. They're either going to have to drag stuff out to extend these characters on the television or count on the Briene, Jon Snow, Cersi and Jamie characters (and Actors) to carry most of the water. I can't remember a show that would have such turnover in characters in such a short time.I also hope that they don't foreshadow Robb's demise too much as that could be an "all-time" television shock moment....even more so than Neds death.

Question:

Spoiler

In all your names, and I have not watched them in awhile, but what about Aria and her sister? I have not read the books nor can I catch up due to my schedule but you did not mention either of the two girls above.Also, about viewership, I would assume the readers will be on board since they know whats coming. The rest of us, I include me since I have not read them, will surely miss out on some things but I am not minding so far. I doubt I will mind later.

 

[Kraft...]

There's a new sample chapter for The Winds of Winter.I'm avoiding reading them though. I will re-read all the books in anticipation of the release date though. I figure we will get ample notice.

You have a link? I can only find the one that's been up for awhile now.

This might be the same one you are talking about:http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html

nice, I haven't read that one yet

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

Talk of this season's issues of two important events from A Storm of Swords

Spoiler

I doubt we get both this season, although it's possible because then next season's big drama's could be Tyrion's trial, Shae's betrayal, and Tyrion's double murder. Would they really kill off Robb and Joff in the same season though? They still need ratings. It truly would be the best season of TV ever if they did both. They'd need the Red Wedding to be just past the half-way point of the season though, and Joff's the finale perhaps.

They won't or can't IMO. I was watching reruns of it the other day and realized that when a lot of the dust of the books settles

Spoiler

the show could really take a hit in viewership. Ned,Robert,Renly,Drogo,Joffery,Robb,Tywin,Catelyn,Jeor Mormont...all dead and Tyrion exiled,Loras Tyrell severely injured, Jorah banished from the Khalisi,Theon gone....that's more or less most of the main characters from the first couple of seasons. They're either going to have to drag stuff out to extend these characters on the television or count on the Briene, Jon Snow, Cersi and Jamie characters (and Actors) to carry most of the water. I can't remember a show that would have such turnover in characters in such a short time.I also hope that they don't foreshadow Robb's demise too much as that could be an "all-time" television shock moment....even more so than Neds death.

They could . . . .

Spoiler

Make the Red Wedding happen relatively early in the season. That could be a big shocker. Then have Joff at the 9th episode with the fall out in Episode 10. Next season gets us to Tyrion's arrest and trial by combat and Jon Snow coming back to the good side of the wall. With seasons 5 and 6 being a combination chronologically of Crows and Dragons, they could work weThat gives us 4 years, so we should have Winds of Winter before then and perhaps get to the final book even. Crows and Dragons I guess COULD end up as 3 seasons with all the new characters, so that a TV audience isn't overwhelmed.I actually think Jamie has become my favorite or #2 (to Tyrion) as teh books have progressed. The actor is really good as well, so I think as we dig deeper into his personality and depth of character, he can help carry and makeup for the losses that are coming.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

Talk of this season's issues of two important events from A Storm of Swords

Spoiler

I doubt we get both this season, although it's possible because then next season's big drama's could be Tyrion's trial, Shae's betrayal, and Tyrion's double murder. Would they really kill off Robb and Joff in the same season though? They still need ratings. It truly would be the best season of TV ever if they did both. They'd need the Red Wedding to be just past the half-way point of the season though, and Joff's the finale perhaps.

They won't or can't IMO. I was watching reruns of it the other day and realized that when a lot of the dust of the books settles

Spoiler

the show could really take a hit in viewership. Ned,Robert,Renly,Drogo,Joffery,Robb,Tywin,Catelyn,Jeor Mormont...all dead and Tyrion exiled,Loras Tyrell severely injured, Jorah banished from the Khalisi,Theon gone....that's more or less most of the main characters from the first couple of seasons. They're either going to have to drag stuff out to extend these characters on the television or count on the Briene, Jon Snow, Cersi and Jamie characters (and Actors) to carry most of the water. I can't remember a show that would have such turnover in characters in such a short time.I also hope that they don't foreshadow Robb's demise too much as that could be an "all-time" television shock moment....even more so than Neds death.

Question:

Spoiler

In all your names, and I have not watched them in awhile, but what about Aria and her sister? I have not read the books nor can I catch up due to my schedule but you did not mention either of the two girls above.Also, about viewership, I would assume the readers will be on board since they know whats coming. The rest of us, I include me since I have not read them, will surely miss out on some things but I am not minding so far. I doubt I will mind later.

If you haven't read the books, you need to stop clicking the spoilers in here.

 

[bonesman]

Spoiler

DwD was absolutely maddening, especially after suffering through A Feast For Crows. I'd really like the time back that Martin just stole from me. Here's my impression of his newly found "bore em to tears" writing style:Step 1 - Be sure to include multiple chapters about new characters who appear from nowhere with no explanation of who they are or how they relate to any previous storylineStep 2 - Even in chapters about main characters who we've developed relationships with, be sure to introduce every g.d. minor and unimportant bit player. Spend pages detailing conversations between said bit players. Divert attention from anything interesting and confuse the reader as much as possibleStep 3 - Make the last page of each chapter interesting and with an unresolved cliff-hangerStep 4 - If something of interest does occur, be sure to spend as little time on it as possible. Jon Snow got killed, oh that is worth 2 paragraphs. 3 if you count the blurb about Ghost freaking out. Don't explain anything else about it. "For the watch". ok great, i can wait another 5 years to figure out what that meansStep 5 - Tease your reader...for at least 1000 pages. 1800 if you count books 4 and 5. Make sure nothing of consequence happens. if it does, refer to step 4Step 6 - Spend years writing the follow up book thus prolonging the agony of any poor sap who is now invested in the storylines. Well, the story lines from books 1-3 anyway seeing as how there are none from 4 & 5in summary, spend pages and pages writing about the weather, clothing, and food. Tie up each chapter with 1 page of moderately interesting plot and leave a major cliffhanger at the end of every stupid chapter. Don't return to that cliffhanger for years...literally

Just read the last page in each chapter then.

 

[bonesman]

I expect multiple books in the middle to be folded into one season.

We're dead center of what is out so far and they're spreading the book into two seasons. Whiff

 

[Thunderlips]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

Talk of this season's issues of two important events from A Storm of Swords

Spoiler

I doubt we get both this season, although it's possible because then next season's big drama's could be Tyrion's trial, Shae's betrayal, and Tyrion's double murder. Would they really kill off Robb and Joff in the same season though? They still need ratings. It truly would be the best season of TV ever if they did both. They'd need the Red Wedding to be just past the half-way point of the season though, and Joff's the finale perhaps.

They won't or can't IMO. I was watching reruns of it the other day and realized that when a lot of the dust of the books settles

Spoiler

the show could really take a hit in viewership. Ned,Robert,Renly,Drogo,Joffery,Robb,Tywin,Catelyn,Jeor Mormont...all dead and Tyrion exiled,Loras Tyrell severely injured, Jorah banished from the Khalisi,Theon gone....that's more or less most of the main characters from the first couple of seasons. They're either going to have to drag stuff out to extend these characters on the television or count on the Briene, Jon Snow, Cersi and Jamie characters (and Actors) to carry most of the water. I can't remember a show that would have such turnover in characters in such a short time.I also hope that they don't foreshadow Robb's demise too much as that could be an "all-time" television shock moment....even more so than Neds death.

They could . . . .

Spoiler

Make the Red Wedding happen relatively early in the season. That could be a big shocker. Then have Joff at the 9th episode with the fall out in Episode 10. Next season gets us to Tyrion's arrest and trial by combat and Jon Snow coming back to the good side of the wall. With seasons 5 and 6 being a combination chronologically of Crows and Dragons, they could work weThat gives us 4 years, so we should have Winds of Winter before then and perhaps get to the final book even. Crows and Dragons I guess COULD end up as 3 seasons with all the new characters, so that a TV audience isn't overwhelmed.I actually think Jamie has become my favorite or #2 (to Tyrion) as teh books have progressed. The actor is really good as well, so I think as we dig deeper into his personality and depth of character, he can help carry and makeup for the losses that are coming.

That timeline could work.

Spoiler

I think to really sell the Rob story, they can't foreshadow ANY hint of treachery. They really need to hit the audience raw on that one. Doing it that early in a season would give the viewer enough time to really HATE Joffery/Tywin/The Frays....and it would be a HUGE shock to the audience. In the books, both deaths came fairly quickly together so their wasn't enough time to really despise them. You also have to fit in Khalesi stuff....and I think she's such a fan favorite; they don't want to punt her....keep in mind that her freeing of the slaves and getting her army is a tent pole for a season itself. Speaking on the books...I haven't read DwD yet (although I know a lot of what happens)......but it's almost like he shot his load too soon. How to you come back and top the Red Wedding/The War at the Wall/Jofferys demise and the battles Danerys fights?

 

[Thunderlips]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

Spoiler

I'm not a big reader anymore (much to my detriment, I know), but I couldn't finish Clash of Kings because Martin just meanders all over hell. One of the biggest bugaboos I had about The Passage and The Twelve was, what I felt, was extraneous info that added little to the story. And yet, at least the books were at least somewhat progressing towards a solution. Song of Ice and Fire seems like Lord of the Rings in a soap opera form. I think it's much better on TV than it is in book form. But that's just me.

Spoiler

DwD was absolutely maddening, especially after suffering through A Feast For Crows. I'd really like the time back that Martin just stole from me. Here's my impression of his newly found "bore em to tears" writing style:Step 1 - Be sure to include multiple chapters about new characters who appear from nowhere with no explanation of who they are or how they relate to any previous storylineStep 2 - Even in chapters about main characters who we've developed relationships with, be sure to introduce every g.d. minor and unimportant bit player. Spend pages detailing conversations between said bit players. Divert attention from anything interesting and confuse the reader as much as possibleStep 3 - Make the last page of each chapter interesting and with an unresolved cliff-hangerStep 4 - If something of interest does occur, be sure to spend as little time on it as possible. Jon Snow got killed, oh that is worth 2 paragraphs. 3 if you count the blurb about Ghost freaking out. Don't explain anything else about it. "For the watch". ok great, i can wait another 5 years to figure out what that meansStep 5 - Tease your reader...for at least 1000 pages. 1800 if you count books 4 and 5. Make sure nothing of consequence happens. if it does, refer to step 4Step 6 - Spend years writing the follow up book thus prolonging the agony of any poor sap who is now invested in the storylines. Well, the story lines from books 1-3 anyway seeing as how there are none from 4 & 5in summary, spend pages and pages writing about the weather, clothing, and food. Tie up each chapter with 1 page of moderately interesting plot and leave a major cliffhanger at the end of every stupid chapter. Don't return to that cliffhanger for years...literally

I got to admit...if I like the world where the story is being told, I don't mind meandering. His payoffs, for the most part, have worked.

 

[Thunderlips]

Another new featurette:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AaedhISdshA

Spoiler

I am starting to think we get the Joffrey Wedding instead of the Red Wedding this season.

Spoiler

Looks like you may be right, but doesn't that mean we'd get both? The Red Wedding won't be the same if there's no gleeful Joffrey hopping around gloating about it. Pretty fundamental change. The death of the ##### King will be such a bigger payoff if he's hated that much more for the Red Wedding

Talk of this season's issues of two important events from A Storm of Swords

Spoiler

I doubt we get both this season, although it's possible because then next season's big drama's could be Tyrion's trial, Shae's betrayal, and Tyrion's double murder. Would they really kill off Robb and Joff in the same season though? They still need ratings. It truly would be the best season of TV ever if they did both. They'd need the Red Wedding to be just past the half-way point of the season though, and Joff's the finale perhaps.

They won't or can't IMO. I was watching reruns of it the other day and realized that when a lot of the dust of the books settles

Spoiler

the show could really take a hit in viewership. Ned,Robert,Renly,Drogo,Joffery,Robb,Tywin,Catelyn,Jeor Mormont...all dead and Tyrion exiled,Loras Tyrell severely injured, Jorah banished from the Khalisi,Theon gone....that's more or less most of the main characters from the first couple of seasons. They're either going to have to drag stuff out to extend these characters on the television or count on the Briene, Jon Snow, Cersi and Jamie characters (and Actors) to carry most of the water. I can't remember a show that would have such turnover in characters in such a short time.I also hope that they don't foreshadow Robb's demise too much as that could be an "all-time" television shock moment....even more so than Neds death.

Question:

Spoiler

In all your names, and I have not watched them in awhile, but what about Aria and her sister? I have not read the books nor can I catch up due to my schedule but you did not mention either of the two girls above.Also, about viewership, I would assume the readers will be on board since they know whats coming. The rest of us, I include me since I have not read them, will surely miss out on some things but I am not minding so far. I doubt I will mind later.

Spoiler

To not put too much of a fine point on them....Arya strives to learn exactly how that guy Jaquen(the guy who killed three times for her) did what he did and Sansa's story stagnates a bit as she finds refuge is a safe but boring place.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

I expect multiple books in the middle to be folded into one season.

We're dead center of what is out so far and they're spreading the book into two seasons. Whiff

Sure. Because it's still one of the interesting ones. They'll blow through aFoC and ADwD like a fire through summer wheat.

i'm fine with season 5 being a combo of those 2 books. There was some interesting stuff that happened, it was the 100's and 100's of pages of absolute drudgery in between that made it seem pointless

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

Spoiler

I'm not a big reader anymore (much to my detriment, I know), but I couldn't finish Clash of Kings because Martin just meanders all over hell. One of the biggest bugaboos I had about The Passage and The Twelve was, what I felt, was extraneous info that added little to the story. And yet, at least the books were at least somewhat progressing towards a solution. Song of Ice and Fire seems like Lord of the Rings in a soap opera form. I think it's much better on TV than it is in book form. But that's just me.

Spoiler

DwD was absolutely maddening, especially after suffering through A Feast For Crows. I'd really like the time back that Martin just stole from me. Here's my impression of his newly found "bore em to tears" writing style:Step 1 - Be sure to include multiple chapters about new characters who appear from nowhere with no explanation of who they are or how they relate to any previous storylineStep 2 - Even in chapters about main characters who we've developed relationships with, be sure to introduce every g.d. minor and unimportant bit player. Spend pages detailing conversations between said bit players. Divert attention from anything interesting and confuse the reader as much as possibleStep 3 - Make the last page of each chapter interesting and with an unresolved cliff-hangerStep 4 - If something of interest does occur, be sure to spend as little time on it as possible. Jon Snow got killed, oh that is worth 2 paragraphs. 3 if you count the blurb about Ghost freaking out. Don't explain anything else about it. "For the watch". ok great, i can wait another 5 years to figure out what that meansStep 5 - Tease your reader...for at least 1000 pages. 1800 if you count books 4 and 5. Make sure nothing of consequence happens. if it does, refer to step 4Step 6 - Spend years writing the follow up book thus prolonging the agony of any poor sap who is now invested in the storylines. Well, the story lines from books 1-3 anyway seeing as how there are none from 4 & 5in summary, spend pages and pages writing about the weather, clothing, and food. Tie up each chapter with 1 page of moderately interesting plot and leave a major cliffhanger at the end of every stupid chapter. Don't return to that cliffhanger for years...literally

I got to admit...if I like the world where the story is being told, I don't mind meandering. His payoffs, for the most part, have worked.Fair enough. too much bread, not enough meat IMO. DwD could have been 500 pages, not 1000

 

[Thunderlips]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

Spoiler

I'm not a big reader anymore (much to my detriment, I know), but I couldn't finish Clash of Kings because Martin just meanders all over hell. One of the biggest bugaboos I had about The Passage and The Twelve was, what I felt, was extraneous info that added little to the story. And yet, at least the books were at least somewhat progressing towards a solution. Song of Ice and Fire seems like Lord of the Rings in a soap opera form. I think it's much better on TV than it is in book form. But that's just me.

Spoiler

DwD was absolutely maddening, especially after suffering through A Feast For Crows. I'd really like the time back that Martin just stole from me. Here's my impression of his newly found "bore em to tears" writing style:Step 1 - Be sure to include multiple chapters about new characters who appear from nowhere with no explanation of who they are or how they relate to any previous storylineStep 2 - Even in chapters about main characters who we've developed relationships with, be sure to introduce every g.d. minor and unimportant bit player. Spend pages detailing conversations between said bit players. Divert attention from anything interesting and confuse the reader as much as possibleStep 3 - Make the last page of each chapter interesting and with an unresolved cliff-hangerStep 4 - If something of interest does occur, be sure to spend as little time on it as possible. Jon Snow got killed, oh that is worth 2 paragraphs. 3 if you count the blurb about Ghost freaking out. Don't explain anything else about it. "For the watch". ok great, i can wait another 5 years to figure out what that meansStep 5 - Tease your reader...for at least 1000 pages. 1800 if you count books 4 and 5. Make sure nothing of consequence happens. if it does, refer to step 4Step 6 - Spend years writing the follow up book thus prolonging the agony of any poor sap who is now invested in the storylines. Well, the story lines from books 1-3 anyway seeing as how there are none from 4 & 5in summary, spend pages and pages writing about the weather, clothing, and food. Tie up each chapter with 1 page of moderately interesting plot and leave a major cliffhanger at the end of every stupid chapter. Don't return to that cliffhanger for years...literally

I got to admit...if I like the world where the story is being told, I don't mind meandering. His payoffs, for the most part, have worked.Fair enough. too much bread, not enough meat IMO. DwD could have been 500 pages, not 1000Keep in mind I've only read the first 4....so even I might grow weary of all the "flavor".

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

Spoiler

I'm not a big reader anymore (much to my detriment, I know), but I couldn't finish Clash of Kings because Martin just meanders all over hell. One of the biggest bugaboos I had about The Passage and The Twelve was, what I felt, was extraneous info that added little to the story. And yet, at least the books were at least somewhat progressing towards a solution. Song of Ice and Fire seems like Lord of the Rings in a soap opera form. I think it's much better on TV than it is in book form. But that's just me.

Spoiler

DwD was absolutely maddening, especially after suffering through A Feast For Crows. I'd really like the time back that Martin just stole from me. Here's my impression of his newly found "bore em to tears" writing style:Step 1 - Be sure to include multiple chapters about new characters who appear from nowhere with no explanation of who they are or how they relate to any previous storylineStep 2 - Even in chapters about main characters who we've developed relationships with, be sure to introduce every g.d. minor and unimportant bit player. Spend pages detailing conversations between said bit players. Divert attention from anything interesting and confuse the reader as much as possibleStep 3 - Make the last page of each chapter interesting and with an unresolved cliff-hangerStep 4 - If something of interest does occur, be sure to spend as little time on it as possible. Jon Snow got killed, oh that is worth 2 paragraphs. 3 if you count the blurb about Ghost freaking out. Don't explain anything else about it. "For the watch". ok great, i can wait another 5 years to figure out what that meansStep 5 - Tease your reader...for at least 1000 pages. 1800 if you count books 4 and 5. Make sure nothing of consequence happens. if it does, refer to step 4Step 6 - Spend years writing the follow up book thus prolonging the agony of any poor sap who is now invested in the storylines. Well, the story lines from books 1-3 anyway seeing as how there are none from 4 & 5in summary, spend pages and pages writing about the weather, clothing, and food. Tie up each chapter with 1 page of moderately interesting plot and leave a major cliffhanger at the end of every stupid chapter. Don't return to that cliffhanger for years...literally

I got to admit...if I like the world where the story is being told, I don't mind meandering. His payoffs, for the most part, have worked.Fair enough. too much bread, not enough meat IMO. DwD could have been 500 pages, not 1000Keep in mind I've only read the first 4....so even I might grow weary of all the "flavor".if you enjoy it, dont let me (us) deny you a good experience. I really wanted to like 4 & 5, i guess Martin just set the bar too high for me

 

[Eviloutsider]

I didn't mind 5 all that much to be honest. Yes it was long but it was far better than 4.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

4 and 5 should have been one book. He ####ed that up. I also think the time between releases rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way given the lack of progress in dragons after such a long wait. Reading all 5 books consecutively the first time through, I don't have the same disdain for Crows. I rather enjoyed it when I think back on getting more into cersei and Jaime.

 

[shuke]

Finished Dance with Drgons last night

Spoiler

I liked it but was disappointed at the lack of conclusions at the end, not as much closure as I would have liked. Yet again the story continues to sprawl.

Spoiler

I'm not a big reader anymore (much to my detriment, I know), but I couldn't finish Clash of Kings because Martin just meanders all over hell. One of the biggest bugaboos I had about The Passage and The Twelve was, what I felt, was extraneous info that added little to the story. And yet, at least the books were at least somewhat progressing towards a solution. Song of Ice and Fire seems like Lord of the Rings in a soap opera form. I think it's much better on TV than it is in book form. But that's just me.

Spoiler

DwD was absolutely maddening, especially after suffering through A Feast For Crows. I'd really like the time back that Martin just stole from me. Here's my impression of his newly found "bore em to tears" writing style:Step 1 - Be sure to include multiple chapters about new characters who appear from nowhere with no explanation of who they are or how they relate to any previous storylineStep 2 - Even in chapters about main characters who we've developed relationships with, be sure to introduce every g.d. minor and unimportant bit player. Spend pages detailing conversations between said bit players. Divert attention from anything interesting and confuse the reader as much as possibleStep 3 - Make the last page of each chapter interesting and with an unresolved cliff-hangerStep 4 - If something of interest does occur, be sure to spend as little time on it as possible. Jon Snow got killed, oh that is worth 2 paragraphs. 3 if you count the blurb about Ghost freaking out. Don't explain anything else about it. "For the watch". ok great, i can wait another 5 years to figure out what that meansStep 5 - Tease your reader...for at least 1000 pages. 1800 if you count books 4 and 5. Make sure nothing of consequence happens. if it does, refer to step 4Step 6 - Spend years writing the follow up book thus prolonging the agony of any poor sap who is now invested in the storylines. Well, the story lines from books 1-3 anyway seeing as how there are none from 4 & 5in summary, spend pages and pages writing about the weather, clothing, and food. Tie up each chapter with 1 page of moderately interesting plot and leave a major cliffhanger at the end of every stupid chapter. Don't return to that cliffhanger for years...literally

 

[Gr00vus]

I hope the show introduces some of the characters that sprout up in later books a bit sooner than Martin did. I'd think that would be less jarring than how Martin wrote it.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Another new featurette:

They won't or can't IMO. I was watching reruns of it the other day and realized that when a lot of the dust of the books settles the show could really take a hit in viewership. Ned,Robert,Renly,Drogo,Joffery,Robb,Tywin,Catelyn,Jeor Mormont...all dead and Tyrion exiled,Loras Tyrell severely injured, Jorah banished from the Khalisi,Theon gone....that's more or less most of the main characters from the first couple of seasons. They're either going to have to drag stuff out to extend these characters on the television or count on the Briene, Jon Snow, Cersi and Jamie characters (and Actors) to carry most of the water. I can't remember a show that would have such turnover in characters in such a short time.

I also hope that they don't foreshadow Robb's demise too much as that could be an "all-time" television shock moment....even more so than Neds death.

Question:In all your names, and I have not watched them in awhile, but what about Aria and her sister? I have not read the books nor can I catch up due to my schedule but you did not mention either of the two girls above.

Also, about viewership, I would assume the readers will be on board since they know whats coming. The rest of us, I include me since I have not read them, will surely miss out on some things but I am not minding so far. I doubt I will mind later.

To not put too much of a fine point on them....Arya strives to learn exactly how that guy Jaquen(the guy who killed three times for her) did what he did and Sansa's story stagnates a bit as she finds refuge is a safe but boring place.

ya, don't read spoilers if you haven't read the books (duh) but:The payoff on the Sansa story arc is pretty significant imo. The revelation that Littlefinger and Lysa, not the Lannisters, killed John Arryn was a pretty big one imo. Also, Lysa getting shoved out the moon door should be some good TV

 

[ScottNorwood]

Another new featurette:

Question:In all your names, and I have not watched them in awhile, but what about Aria and her sister? I have not read the books nor can I catch up due to my schedule but you did not mention either of the two girls above.

Also, about viewership, I would assume the readers will be on board since they know whats coming. The rest of us, I include me since I have not read them, will surely miss out on some things but I am not minding so far. I doubt I will mind later.

To not put too much of a fine point on them....Arya strives to learn exactly how that guy Jaquen(the guy who killed three times for her) did what he did and Sansa's story stagnates a bit as she finds refuge is a safe but boring place.

ya, don't read spoilers if you haven't read the books (duh) but:The payoff on the Sansa story arc is pretty significant imo. The revelation that Littlefinger and Lysa, not the Lannisters, killed John Arryn was a pretty big one imo. Also, Lysa getting shoved out the moon door should be some good TV

I wonder if any show-watchers will even remember who Jon Arryn is at that point

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Another new featurette:

Question:In all your names, and I have not watched them in awhile, but what about Aria and her sister? I have not read the books nor can I catch up due to my schedule but you did not mention either of the two girls above.

Also, about viewership, I would assume the readers will be on board since they know whats coming. The rest of us, I include me since I have not read them, will surely miss out on some things but I am not minding so far. I doubt I will mind later.

To not put too much of a fine point on them....Arya strives to learn exactly how that guy Jaquen(the guy who killed three times for her) did what he did and Sansa's story stagnates a bit as she finds refuge is a safe but boring place.

ya, don't read spoilers if you haven't read the books (duh) but:The payoff on the Sansa story arc is pretty significant imo. The revelation that Littlefinger and Lysa, not the Lannisters, killed John Arryn was a pretty big one imo. Also, Lysa getting shoved out the moon door should be some good TV

I wonder if any show-watchers will even remember who Jon Arryn is at that point

As long as they refer to him as "the weird little boob muncher's dead father" I think they'll be alright.

HI NORWOOD!~@!~@

 

[jdoggydogg]

Kings Landing rebuilt in Minecraft

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

GoT themed Valentines

Hodor

 

[3 out of 5]

Kings Landing rebuilt in Minecraft

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Are you guys getting Season 2 on BluRay or is having access to HBOgo enough?

 

[TLEF316]

Are you guys getting Season 2 on BluRay or is having access to HBOgo enough?

I bought season 1 but now that I have hbo go I don't see the point anymore. (gb the hbo go ap on xbox) not a big special features guy

 

[Moe.]

I've had the theme song stuck in my head all day. Starting to make up words.

 

[EYLive]

I've had the theme song stuck in my head all day. Starting to make up words.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Are you guys getting Season 2 on BluRay or is having access to HBOgo enough?

I bought season 1 but now that I have hbo go I don't see the point anymore. (gb the hbo go ap on xbox) not a big special features guy

Does that require Xbox live gold? Is it on ps3 yet?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I've had the theme song stuck in my head all day. Starting to make up words.

There's a cute video out there somewhere of the child actors singing along with it.

 

[Moe.]

Are you guys getting Season 2 on BluRay or is having access to HBOgo enough?

I bought season 1 but now that I have hbo go I don't see the point anymore. (gb the hbo go ap on xbox) not a big special features guy

Is it on ps3 yet?

No. So damn annoying.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I've had the theme song stuck in my head all day. Starting to make up words.

Game of Thrones isFreaking awesomeI can't wait forthe season premiere(repeat)

 

[jdoggydogg]

George R.R. Martin signs deal to create new shows for HBO, since it's not like there's anything else he should be creating right now

Clearly enjoying the way this whole Game Of Thrones thing has panned out and not wishing to see it end any time soon, HBO has signed George R.R. Martin to develop new shows for the network, ensuring he'll be far too busy to wrap up the fantasy saga for a nice, long while. Under his two-year overall deal, Martin will stay on as executive producer and occasional writer for Game Of Thrones for the foreseeable future, while also using those two years to come up with new things—or, in George R.R. Martin time, around 60 pages of a new thing. Martin's prior TV credits include episodes for the 1980s versions of The Twilight Zone and Beauty And The Beast, which he should be wrapping up any day now. He takes a long time to write things.