HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (4 Viewers)

[parrot]

The wall battle wasn't that long or drawn out in the books though. IIRC, Stannis comes in waxes everyone in short order, and it's over in just a few pages.

What book and chapter was this in? I wanted to go re-read this battle

Somewhere near the end of Storm of Swords. Not sure which chapter, but almost certainly a Jon Snow one.

ASoS. Jon VIII & IX. Actually the battle for the gate goes on for days in the book, before Slynt orders Jon to go out and try to kill Mace.

Yeah, you're right. I was referring to how long the battle lasts after Stannis gets there.

You're right there. Stannis shows up and #### gets squared away pronto.

 

[Kraft...]

They have the plague and siege to work with for Danny. That can be stretched out. Add in the iron born stuff and you've got some runway to play with. They can **** around with Sansa in the Vale visiting various houses etc. for a while too if need be.

Can't do too much of this can they? The whole idea is the north assumes the Starks are gone - doesn't seem likely that they would let her galavant around the Vale as Sansa Stark. If I recall the books, nobody knew her as Sansa outside of Lysa, did they?

Not as Sansa but Little fingers Niese. The goal is for Robin to leave the nest and spread his wings. She'll be with them, lots you can do there IMO(will people recognize her etc.)

 

[Redwes25]

With the amount of complaining and lack of paying attention in the other thread, I'm worried about the show losing viewers over the next season or two and the show not making through the end of the books.

Are views trending in a bad direction?

Anecdotaly, the funniest thing about non book complaints are that they're more or less complaining about the stuff that wasn't in the books; but was added.

In hindsight, if they were looking to pad these stories in an effort to give Martin some time....they should have done this season, more or less by the book and then gone with a Robert's Rebellion season for next year...... with the reveal at the finale being that Jon Snow is Rheagar and Lyanna Stark's kid. The would have given them major pop when they started Season 6 AND have put the series on a concrete path to what most presume to be the final conflict (Dany, Jon, Tyrion and Dragons versus The White Walkers). Can you imagine the outrage and shock, when showing the significance of Jon's heritage....only to have him stabbed at the end of Season 6? Epic........

If they did an entire season solely as a flashback, that would confuse the non-book readers even more. Imagine when season 6 begins and everyone is asking "Wait... who was that guy again?"

If they framed it right, it could work. Shows like The Wire went season to season introducing new points and characters. Hell, GoT has seen a pretty big transition in POV and main characters.

Looking ahead, I don't know how much pop they'll gleam from the upcoming story threads....significant time with the Boltons, Briene, Stannis at the Wall and new characters in Dorne IMO, isn't going to blow up many skirts. Nevermind the idea that the Dany story will bog down and the Tyrion storyline will introduce a whole new cog in the machine.

To me, the show should be tighter than it is and this past season as meandered in a bad direction. I don't know how much of the added content is an effort to pad or maybe the show creators trying to make their own unique mark.....but I think this thing will bog down more....*

* Not to say I still don't enjoy it as it's better than 95% of other stuff on TV.

If anything with the Dany story they could of spent more time in Qarth and the other slavers bay cities.

TV people are going to get bored fast with that story, bunch of dudes showing up trying to marry her? unsullied getting offed? Little screen time to the dragons as it is.

and Im assuming that in epsiode 10 alot of the last cool deaths happen.

whats the big cliffhangers/events after this season? Maybe Brienne dies? Maybe Jon dies? Make up a maybe Tyrion dies? Cersei's naked walk?

The Sons of the Harpy along with the dragon drama could be enough to fill a couple season IMO and you can add the war she is about to face leading up to her marriage as well.

That's dragging it.....seeing as her story took place in one book.

Since books 4 and 5 are going on at the same time....what would be credible cliffhangers for each storyline for the Season 5 TV show...keeping in mind they'll need the actual book cliffhangers for each storyline for the 6th season.....

This discussion reminds me how crappy those books were compared to the first three. My prediction is they do both in a Season and many characters are ahead of the books by end of next season. Highlight of season is Cerci walking naked but otherwise TV only folks are disappointed by it.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Cersei's naked walk is two seasons away imo

Dorne, Tyrion's journey, Sons of Harpy, Arya's encounter with the faceless men, Jon Snow commanding the wall, and dealing with Stannis, and the wildlings. the beginnings of the intrigue between Margerae and Cersei in Kings Landing all will command a lot of time next season.

 

[Gr00vus]

With the amount of complaining and lack of paying attention in the other thread, I'm worried about the show losing viewers over the next season or two and the show not making through the end of the books.

Are views trending in a bad direction?

Anecdotaly, the funniest thing about non book complaints are that they're more or less complaining about the stuff that wasn't in the books; but was added.

In hindsight, if they were looking to pad these stories in an effort to give Martin some time....they should have done this season, more or less by the book and then gone with a Robert's Rebellion season for next year...... with the reveal at the finale being that Jon Snow is Rheagar and Lyanna Stark's kid. The would have given them major pop when they started Season 6 AND have put the series on a concrete path to what most presume to be the final conflict (Dany, Jon, Tyrion and Dragons versus The White Walkers). Can you imagine the outrage and shock, when showing the significance of Jon's heritage....only to have him stabbed at the end of Season 6? Epic........

If they did an entire season solely as a flashback, that would confuse the non-book readers even more. Imagine when season 6 begins and everyone is asking "Wait... who was that guy again?"

If they framed it right, it could work. Shows like The Wire went season to season introducing new points and characters. Hell, GoT has seen a pretty big transition in POV and main characters.

Looking ahead, I don't know how much pop they'll gleam from the upcoming story threads....significant time with the Boltons, Briene, Stannis at the Wall and new characters in Dorne IMO, isn't going to blow up many skirts. Nevermind the idea that the Dany story will bog down and the Tyrion storyline will introduce a whole new cog in the machine.

To me, the show should be tighter than it is and this past season as meandered in a bad direction. I don't know how much of the added content is an effort to pad or maybe the show creators trying to make their own unique mark.....but I think this thing will bog down more....*

* Not to say I still don't enjoy it as it's better than 95% of other stuff on TV.

If anything with the Dany story they could of spent more time in Qarth and the other slavers bay cities.

TV people are going to get bored fast with that story, bunch of dudes showing up trying to marry her? unsullied getting offed? Little screen time to the dragons as it is.

and Im assuming that in epsiode 10 alot of the last cool deaths happen.

whats the big cliffhangers/events after this season? Maybe Brienne dies? Maybe Jon dies? Make up a maybe Tyrion dies? Cersei's naked walk?

The Sons of the Harpy along with the dragon drama could be enough to fill a couple season IMO and you can add the war she is about to face leading up to her marriage as well.

That's dragging it.....seeing as her story took place in one book.

Since books 4 and 5 are going on at the same time....what would be credible cliffhangers for each storyline for the Season 5 TV show...keeping in mind they'll need the actual book cliffhangers for each storyline for the 6th season.....

This discussion reminds me how crappy those books were compared to the first three. My prediction is they do both in a Season and many characters are ahead of the books by end of next season. Highlight of season is Cerci walking naked but otherwise TV only folks are disappointed by it.

I liked the Arya and Tyrion parts of books 4/5 - I could see them doing quite a bit with them. Some of what went on in the north was interesting. I'm also somewhat looking forward to seeing how they visualize Quentyn's demise.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Will the citadel get introduced next year?

 

[Redwes25]

Cersei's naked walk is two seasons away imo

Dorne, Tyrion's journey, Sons of Harpy, Arya's encounter with the faceless men, Jon Snow commanding the wall, and dealing with Stannis, and the wildlings. the beginnings of the intrigue between Margerae and Cersei in Kings Landing all will command a lot of time next season.

Other than Cersei's walk and Arya

 

[shuke]

I don't even remember the Dorne storyline. Was there one?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I don't even remember the Dorne storyline. Was there one?

******* snake girls I think someone tried to marry Dany

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Cersei's naked walk is two seasons away imo

Dorne, Tyrion's journey, Sons of Harpy, Arya's encounter with the faceless men, Jon Snow commanding the wall, and dealing with Stannis, and the wildlings. the beginnings of the intrigue between Margerae and Cersei in Kings Landing all will command a lot of time next season.

Jamie to the riverlands, Brans a tree. Brienne wandering, Lady stoneheart. The Greyjoys, the boltons, sansa & littlefinger

They will find something for Bronn to do

 

[Buckna]

they are casting Lollys so that could be fun, Bronn is not going away from the story. I'm sure there will be a baby Tyrion at some point for laughs.

Bronn will travel with Jaime IMO. They could get a lot of play out of Jaime's storyline, growing into a commander & political manuverour, as well as visiting Lancel and getting to the truth of Cersei cheating on him and his break with her.

They could expand the Sparrows/High Septon storyline and stretch out both Margery & Cersei's battles against each other and then their inquisition. I can see recasting Kevan Lannister and introducing him to take over for an incarcerated Cersei in season 6. If they do it right like they did with Oberyn, you could have a great character everyone loves, and then brutally kill him towards the end of the season.

More and more, we'll get to see lots of new stuff. No doubt the writers will be excited to have more license with the characters.

A LOT of time will be spent in Dorne if the casting news is correct.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

There's a lot of meat to Cercei's storyline in AFFC and I suspect next season will spend a fair amount of time in Kings Landing. I could see S5 ending up with her arrest, Tyrion's capture by Jorah, Jon allowing the wildlings through the Wall, Arya going blind, Jaime burning the letter, Sam getting to Oldtown - somewhere around those places in the story for those characters. I guess they could flip some of Sansa's AFFC events to happening while she's travelling instead of at the Eyrie. I have no idea what they're going to do with Bran. Devoting a lot of time to Dorne and/or the Ironborn could be tricky.

Also, this season doesn't HAVE to resolve every single story to where it was at the end of ASOS (some are already well past it). Were I the show, I'd try to move no more than 4 or 5 characters in this last episode - and even that may be too much - and get back in touch with the rest next year.

 

[Sabertooth]

they are casting Lollys so that could be fun, Bronn is not going away from the story. I'm sure there will be a baby Tyrion at some point for laughs.

Bronn will travel with Jaime IMO. They could get a lot of play out of Jaime's storyline, growing into a commander & political manuverour, as well as visiting Lancel and getting to the truth of Cersei cheating on him and his break with her.

They could expand the Sparrows/High Septon storyline and stretch out both Margery & Cersei's battles against each other and then their inquisition. I can see recasting Kevan Lannister and introducing him to take over for an incarcerated Cersei in season 6. If they do it right like they did with Oberyn, you could have a great character everyone loves, and then brutally kill him towards the end of the season.

More and more, we'll get to see lots of new stuff. No doubt the writers will be excited to have more license with the characters.

A LOT of time will be spent in Dorne if the casting news is correct.

Always thought Kevan was a milquetoast character. Was neither surprised nor moved at all when he got whacked. Never had any gravity for me at all.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

they are casting Lollys so that could be fun, Bronn is not going away from the story. I'm sure there will be a baby Tyrion at some point for laughs.

Bronn will travel with Jaime IMO. They could get a lot of play out of Jaime's storyline, growing into a commander & political manuverour, as well as visiting Lancel and getting to the truth of Cersei cheating on him and his break with her.

They could expand the Sparrows/High Septon storyline and stretch out both Margery & Cersei's battles against each other and then their inquisition. I can see recasting Kevan Lannister and introducing him to take over for an incarcerated Cersei in season 6. If they do it right like they did with Oberyn, you could have a great character everyone loves, and then brutally kill him towards the end of the season.

More and more, we'll get to see lots of new stuff. No doubt the writers will be excited to have more license with the characters.

A LOT of time will be spent in Dorne if the casting news is correct.

Always thought Kevan was a milquetoast character. Was neither surprised nor moved at all when he got whacked. Never had any gravity for me at all.

Well, it very much further revealed Varys intentions. Just when we thought there might be some stabilization. Now what are we going to get?

 

[Tom Hagen]

they are casting Lollys so that could be fun, Bronn is not going away from the story. I'm sure there will be a baby Tyrion at some point for laughs.

Bronn will travel with Jaime IMO. They could get a lot of play out of Jaime's storyline, growing into a commander & political manuverour, as well as visiting Lancel and getting to the truth of Cersei cheating on him and his break with her.

They could expand the Sparrows/High Septon storyline and stretch out both Margery & Cersei's battles against each other and then their inquisition. I can see recasting Kevan Lannister and introducing him to take over for an incarcerated Cersei in season 6. If they do it right like they did with Oberyn, you could have a great character everyone loves, and then brutally kill him towards the end of the season.

More and more, we'll get to see lots of new stuff. No doubt the writers will be excited to have more license with the characters.

A LOT of time will be spent in Dorne if the casting news is correct.

Always thought Kevan was a milquetoast character. Was neither surprised nor moved at all when he got whacked. Never had any gravity for me at all.

Well, it very much further revealed Varys intentions. Just when we thought there might be some stabilization. Now what are we going to get?

They might be able to accomplish the same thing with just Pycelle and not Kevan.

 

[Clifford]

There's a lot of meat to Cercei's storyline in AFFC and I suspect next season will spend a fair amount of time in Kings Landing. I could see S5 ending up with her arrest, Tyrion's capture by Jorah, Jon allowing the wildlings through the Wall, Arya going blind, Jaime burning the letter, Sam getting to Oldtown - somewhere around those places in the story for those characters. I guess they could flip some of Sansa's AFFC events to happening while she's travelling instead of at the Eyrie. I have no idea what they're going to do with Bran. Devoting a lot of time to Dorne and/or the Ironborn could be tricky.

Also, this season doesn't HAVE to resolve every single story to where it was at the end of ASOS (some are already well past it). Were I the show, I'd try to move no more than 4 or 5 characters in this last episode - and even that may be too much - and get back in touch with the rest next year.

Man I need to re-read ADWD. I forgot about 90% of this stuff.

 

[The Duff Man]

I dont think the Ironborn stuff will sit well with the TV audience and will be scaled back. The horn for dragon control and the ships to get the army to Westeros can be introduced in a much shorter way.

Same for Dorne to some extent, but they have gotten a bit more play this season so the connection is there, and they need to advance that storyline for the stuff with Dany to be interesting next season.

I wouldnt mind seeing Stoneheart be cut either, not seeing the value in that storyline.

 

[Buckna]

they are casting Lollys so that could be fun, Bronn is not going away from the story. I'm sure there will be a baby Tyrion at some point for laughs.

Bronn will travel with Jaime IMO. They could get a lot of play out of Jaime's storyline, growing into a commander & political manuverour, as well as visiting Lancel and getting to the truth of Cersei cheating on him and his break with her.

They could expand the Sparrows/High Septon storyline and stretch out both Margery & Cersei's battles against each other and then their inquisition. I can see recasting Kevan Lannister and introducing him to take over for an incarcerated Cersei in season 6. If they do it right like they did with Oberyn, you could have a great character everyone loves, and then brutally kill him towards the end of the season.

More and more, we'll get to see lots of new stuff. No doubt the writers will be excited to have more license with the characters.

A LOT of time will be spent in Dorne if the casting news is correct.

Always thought Kevan was a milquetoast character. Was neither surprised nor moved at all when he got whacked. Never had any gravity for me at all.

Well, it very much further revealed Varys intentions. Just when we thought there might be some stabilization. Now what are we going to get?

They might be able to accomplish the same thing with just Pycelle and not Kevan.

True, although they have depicted Pycelle as a depraved, philandering Cersei-serving follower.

As for Kevan being milquetoast, just because someone read it that way in the books, doesnt mean it has to be depicted that way on the screen. I've always seen a bit of Ned Stark in Kevan's character. Good for the realm, best of intentions and capable, but cut down for getting in the way of grander ambitions.

 

[Buckna]

Either way, I am looking forward to seeing how they depict Cersei #### everything up. That was one of the more satisfying things in the last few books, seeing a character you cant stand make epic fail after epic fail. Lena Headley took her clothes off for 300, be interesting if she'll do it again for the show.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I dont think the Ironborn stuff will sit well with the TV audience and will be scaled back. The horn for dragon control and the ships to get the army to Westeros can be introduced in a much shorter way.

Same for Dorne to some extent, but they have gotten a bit more play this season so the connection is there, and they need to advance that storyline for the stuff with Dany to be interesting next season.

I wouldnt mind seeing Stoneheart be cut either, not seeing the value in that storyline.

I think we'll see it as Dany making it known she's ready to wife up and then the stories of the various suitors that are making their way to be a part of the action... Hizdahr vs Victarion vs Quentyn vs Young Griff.

 

[FatMax]

I dont think the Ironborn stuff will sit well with the TV audience and will be scaled back.

There is also the Aeron and Euron Greyjoy storyline that everyone seems to be forgetting. I don't know how well those would play on TV either, because even after reading the books, I'm still not sure WTF the point is with them.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I dont think the Ironborn stuff will sit well with the TV audience and will be scaled back.

There is also the Aeron and Euron Greyjoy storyline that everyone seems to be forgetting. I don't know how well those would play on TV either, because even after reading the books, I'm still not sure WTF the point is with them.

Yes, that line and the young griff stuff seems to just be meandering and adding unnecessary complexity. Did we really need another Targaryan (possibly fake)?

 

[FatMax]

I dont think the Ironborn stuff will sit well with the TV audience and will be scaled back.

There is also the Aeron and Euron Greyjoy storyline that everyone seems to be forgetting. I don't know how well those would play on TV either, because even after reading the books, I'm still not sure WTF the point is with them.

Yes, that line and the young griff stuff seems to just be meandering and adding unnecessary complexity. Did we really need another Targaryan (possibly fake)?

I disagree about Young Griff. He has the most legitimate claim of anyone, and it could be potentially interesting given the power vacuum in Kings Landing. Throw that in with the possibility of Daenerys getting off her dead ### and crossing the ocean at some point, and it could be fun.

Of course, a lot of things need to fall into place here in the real world. GRRM has to do two things. A) live long enough to finish the book, and B) not #### it all up. Neither are a certainty. But if that happens, Young Griff's storyline *might* be integral to everything.

 

[Apathetic]

There's a lot of meat to Cercei's storyline in AFFC and I suspect next season will spend a fair amount of time in Kings Landing. I could see S5 ending up with her arrest, Tyrion's capture by Jorah, Jon allowing the wildlings through the Wall, Arya going blind, Jaime burning the letter, Sam getting to Oldtown - somewhere around those places in the story for those characters. I guess they could flip some of Sansa's AFFC events to happening while she's travelling instead of at the Eyrie. I have no idea what they're going to do with Bran. Devoting a lot of time to Dorne and/or the Ironborn could be tricky.

Also, this season doesn't HAVE to resolve every single story to where it was at the end of ASOS (some are already well past it). Were I the show, I'd try to move no more than 4 or 5 characters in this last episode - and even that may be too much - and get back in touch with the rest next year.

Man I need to re-read ADWD. I forgot about 90% of this stuff.

^ This

I think I flew through book 4 and 5 waiting for some action to occur

never came

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I dont think the Ironborn stuff will sit well with the TV audience and will be scaled back.

There is also the Aeron and Euron Greyjoy storyline that everyone seems to be forgetting. I don't know how well those would play on TV either, because even after reading the books, I'm still not sure WTF the point is with them.

Yes, that line and the young griff stuff seems to just be meandering and adding unnecessary complexity. Did we really need another Targaryan (possibly fake)?

I disagree about Young Griff. He has the most legitimate claim of anyone, and it could be potentially interesting given the power vacuum in Kings Landing. Throw that in with the possibility of Daenerys getting off her dead ### and crossing the ocean at some point, and it could be fun.

Of course, a lot of things need to fall into place here in the real world. GRRM has to do two things. A) live long enough to finish the book, and B) not #### it all up. Neither are a certainty. But if that happens, Young Griff's storyline *might* be integral to everything.

I know, but did GRRM really need to bring back a dead infant and throw another curve into the story this late into the game. I doubt it was part of his initial story outline.

 

[Thunderlips]

If Young Griff is a fugazi Targeryan in the book....there's no reason to add him to the show at all. That's a two to three season arch that I can't believe they'll go down. By that point in the game, are viewers going to want to get behind this guy for a couple of seasons only to have him die....or be a fake? Even without that, I don't see how they get this thing in under 8 seasons.....

 

[PatsWillWin]

There's a lot of meat to Cercei's storyline in AFFC and I suspect next season will spend a fair amount of time in Kings Landing. I could see S5 ending up with her arrest, Tyrion's capture by Jorah, Jon allowing the wildlings through the Wall, Arya going blind, Jaime burning the letter, Sam getting to Oldtown - somewhere around those places in the story for those characters. I guess they could flip some of Sansa's AFFC events to happening while she's travelling instead of at the Eyrie. I have no idea what they're going to do with Bran. Devoting a lot of time to Dorne and/or the Ironborn could be tricky.

Also, this season doesn't HAVE to resolve every single story to where it was at the end of ASOS (some are already well past it). Were I the show, I'd try to move no more than 4 or 5 characters in this last episode - and even that may be too much - and get back in touch with the rest next year.

Man I need to re-read ADWD. I forgot about 90% of this stuff.

^ This

I think I flew through book 4 and 5 waiting for some action to occur

never came

Same. I forget a lot. I've begun to reread all the books, and will be more patient now that I know nothing really happens, lol.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Meh, in the end, none of that matters - its a song of ice and fire.

The story will wrap-up with a conflict between white-walkers and dragons. Who ever leads Westeros or any other land will be inconsequential to the final chapter.

Game of Thrones really only applied to the first chapter (book) of the story. Now, the TV viewers, on the other hand, have been sold a Title that this is a game of thrones and everything revolves around Kings Landing - but I don't think that is the point of the story...

 

[PatsWillWin]

Meh, in the end, none of that matters - its a song of ice and fire.

The story will wrap-up with a conflict between white-walkers and dragons. Who ever leads Westeros or any other land will be inconsequential to the final chapter.

Game of Thrones really only applied to the first chapter (book) of the story. Now, the TV viewers, on the other hand, have been sold a Title that this is a game of thrones and everything revolves around Kings Landing - but I don't think that is the point of the story...

I think, in broad terms, it's unfolding in the show as it did in the books. The "Game of Thrones" part was central for many of the books, not just the first one. As the books get further along you begin to realize that it's ultimately irrelevant compared to what's brewing up north. I think it will go that away, eventually, in the show as well.

 

[Redwes25]

I don't even remember the Dorne storyline. Was there one?

Exactly my point

 

[EYLive]

The TV thread is getting even worse. First it was spoilers but now it's full of unfunny garbage further ruining an already bad thread.

 

[KarmaPolice]

The TV thread is getting even worse. First it was spoilers but now it's full of unfunny garbage further ruining an already bad thread.

not loving the talk of pooping habits and genitalia of white walkers?

 

[Mister Martie]

The TV thread is getting even worse. First it was spoilers but now it's full of unfunny garbage further ruining an already bad thread.

Some of that stuff would make Roarin' cringe.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I like how HBO is running a Father's Day themed ad for the finale. It shows all the dads being jerks to their kids, and then it says Happy Fathers Day.

Non-readers will miss this as a huge clue for tonight. I love it.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

GRRM: This [episode] will go 116 minutes, it says. Cool.

 

[fasteddie_21]

GRRM: This [episode] will go 116 minutes, it says. Cool.

From GRRM blog:Tonight the Season 4 finale of GAME OF THRONES on HBO.

Longest episode of the season. One of the things I love about HBO is that you can take as long as you need to tell your story, you're not locked into the rigid 46-minutes-and-change-to-the-second of the broadcast networks. This one will go 116 minutes, it says. Cool.

 

[Amused to Death]

GRRM: This [episode] will go 116 minutes, it says. Cool.

From GRRM blog:Tonight the Season 4 finale of GAME OF THRONES on HBO.

Longest episode of the season. One of the things I love about HBO is that you can take as long as you need to tell your story, you're not locked into the rigid 46-minutes-and-change-to-the-second of the broadcast networks. This one will go 116 minutes, it says. Cool.

I checked the guide and it shows GoT from 9 to 10:15. If it does run longer dvrs may cut off.Maybe 116 actually means 1 HR 16 min.

 

[Run It Up]

Lol fathers day.

Foreshadowing.

 

[Clifford]

This should be one of the best episodes ever.

 

[MyLeftHand]

Lol fathers day.

Foreshadowing.

 

[Clifford]

Just rewatched last episode. Ser Alliser didn't die. They just gave the impression he did. He got dragged to safety after being cut by Thormund.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Lol fathers day.

Foreshadowing.

Lot of people going to be gutted after that scene

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

No uncat. Nice.

 

[kupcho1]

Not bad at all. I think they ended the season about as well as can be expected. Even threw in a little Qyburn and Ser Robert Strong

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I didn't like that they skipped the whole first marriage whore story though.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I didn't like that they skipped the whole first marriage whore story though.

Yep. Made it all about shae.

Shame

 

[massraider]

I was hoping for a Stoneheart reveal, just to enjoy reaction of non-book readers.

Really great effects on those skeleton soldiers, that was done well.

And Brienne/Hound was a much better fight scene than the Mountain/Viper. That was great.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Someone go drop the tywin #### gold line in the tv thread. Shamefully lacking. But I bet they hit it next season

 

[renesauz]

Good season finale- hit most of the expected scenes, and did them well.

 

[Sabertooth]

Did Brienne and Hound fight in the books? I don't recall that. It was so long ago that I was surprised. I don't ever remember her being badass enough to take out the Hound.