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That poster wasn't saying, "Gee, WHY would Tyrion want to kill Tywin? What's his MOTIVATION??"
Yes, he remained behind. We don't see him again until the end of ADWD when he has Pycelle and Kevan killed.
to be fair, it is not like he got a weapon and went to the tower. it is not until after the shae incident did he seem to have murderous intentions and got the crossbow.
That was my problem with beetle chat 3 weeks ago. They could have used that time and setting to lay the groundwork - have Jamie somehow relate the Tysha story without detailing his direct involvement. Then just a brief mention of it here before Tyrion goes would have given additional motivation. Given how things went down in the show, I dislike the beetle chat scene even more. I know the intention was to highlight how much the brothers meant to each other, but they could have killed two birds with one stone if they'd made a slightly more skillful adjustment.
I agree with one exception. Strong Belwas.
Sam is to go to The Citadel to be a Maester. They're getting Mance's kingly baby away from the Red Witch....Aemon was old.
It was to take Mance's son and Maester Aemon away from Melisandre. Maester Aemon obviously has king's blood and Mance's son sort of falls into that same category. Jon sends them away so Stannis and Melisandre don't decide to sacrifice them.
It wouldn't surprise me if GRRM writes something different. And I don't think anyone would get upset ("It didn't happen like that on THE SHOW!!" just doesn't have the same ring to it).
To be fair, it may just mean that the part he plays just isn't that important to carry him around as an actor. Pip and Grenn die as well and they are still alive by the end of ADWD. It may be better for the show's budget to kill off minor characters.
Sure. But it's still a statement on the character and their future (or lack thereof) in the story that we weren't expecting. I actually like that as it keeps us book readers from getting too complacent when watching the show.
It would be good on TV, but let's be honest. Zombie-Cat and the whole Brothers Without Banners story line is pretty much an unnecessary diversion, even in the books. I can't figure out what, if any story that they help progress.
I don't think that they can eliminate the Ironborn completely unless they want to have some other way for Dany to get to Westeros.If they drag out the remaining story into two more seasons it is going to be brutal to watch I think. I dont see enough gripping story left. They can make it one season easily, since some of ADWD is already covered.
Wall/Wildlings stuff
Cersei's fall and naked walk at KL
Tyrion stuff can be condensed a lot and get him into slavery sooner
Remaining Dany story
Arya
Dorne stuff
Eliminate Brienne's adventure and the Ironborne stuff completely.
Zombie-Cat could also get axed.
I can't even remember how it was left in the books, but it's pretty easy to imagine a reincarnated mother of the assassinated King of the North playing a role in this story.
I doubt they just drop Bran from the show altogether next season, so I imagine we're going to go beyond the books in his storyline on the show. Similarly with Sansa/Littlefinger. There's also the whole zany Manderly/Bolton thing - who's up for some pie? Then again they haven't really done much with Manderly, so maybe they drop that plot?If they drag out the remaining story into two more seasons it is going to be brutal to watch I think. I dont see enough gripping story left. They can make it one season easily, since some of ADWD is already covered.
Wall/Wildlings stuff
Cersei's fall and naked walk at KL
Tyrion stuff can be condensed a lot and get him into slavery sooner
Remaining Dany story
Arya
Dorne stuff
Eliminate Brienne's adventure and the Ironborne stuff completely.
Zombie-Cat could also get axed.
I agree. He's running for his life at that point. I don't think they ever touched on him know his way around the tunnels either but I might be wrong on that. How did he even know where to go?
I didn't think of that, but I guess if I had thought it through, I might think that he would up in his old room, so knew how to get there.
Then again, not sure they explained that Tyrion had been displaced from his room by Tywin.
The show really castrated the scene. Still good, but not as powerful. And could have been done in place of the pointless beetle chat.
Yep. Had same thought.Gr00vus said:
Bran will have the ability to journey back in Westeros history and view events, shown to us in flashbacks, won't he? We could be served a lot of exposition next season, with Bran giving viewers a window into the Targaryens' reign and downfall, et al.Gr00vus said:
I was thinking something similar in regards to Jojen's death. They could show interactions they had previously even though he's dead in the current day in the show. I like your idea better though. Maybe that's why the pushed the Bran storyline. Then again maybe they'll just do some karate kid like training scenes with Bran and tree gramps.
to save Jon I think they have to, no? and Arya its pretty well needed too
Was there any long period of connection? I just always assumed (book wise) that she just moved from Tyrion to Tywin....that there wasn't a long con going on her behalf.....
