HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)

[John Bender]

I'm ready to do this.

 

[Scoresman]

this season should be good but the opener was meh.

 

[Frostillicus]

Thinking Mance is just dead and Tormund will step in for Mance's character. If that's the direction they go I think it's yet another good change.

 

[massraider]

Such a well-made show. Couldn't care less about sticking to books, or even spoilers. I'll enjoy the books whenever they come out, and enjoy the show while it's on.

Looking forward to the fighting pits, any chance Strong Belwas makes an appearance?

 

[Abrantes]

Every GoT season opener has been underwhelming, as they use it to set the stage for the characters. Not an excuse for the slowness, but that's how they do it. Bit too much exposition. Still feel that it will be a good season, though.

 

[Sabertooth]

I didn't get that at all. Only just the one murder I think though. I watched the finale from last season and then the opener back to back. Seemed like a nice continuation. The Brienne of Tarth storyline can just go away. Just like the books. Just wasted pages. Nothing like flipping a page and seeing BRIENNE on the top of the next page. Uggg.

 

[Thunderlips]

Well done in setting the stage. With it, we've eliminated:

Young Griff

All the extraneous players in the North

They're boiling off the water to get better soup.

 

[Abrantes]

-Wildlings for Stannis' army instead of random Northern clans works well and takes way less time to explain.

-Mance actually dying is more sensible than a magic switcheroo.

-Jaime going to Dorne is a great way to give him something to do.

-Don't care about the Greyjoys at all, so I'm glad they're not a major focus (at least for this season).

-No clue about what they're doing with Sansa, which is actually quite fun.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

They've also radically changed what's happening in the North.

Sansa's apparently heading to Winterfell and Mance is apparently (really) dead, which alters Theon's story line immensely (as well as their own arcs). Not to mention Davos being at the Wall.

Do you guys think the show runners have basically said "screw it" and burned the books? Or are they going to have Sansa/Littlefinger take on some of the Manderly/Mance/"Arya" responsibilites?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I didn't get that at all. Only just the one murder I think though. I watched the finale from last season and then the opener back to back. Seemed like a nice continuation. The Brienne of Tarth storyline can just go away. Just like the books. Just wasted pages. Nothing like flipping a page and seeing BRIENNE on the top of the next page. Uggg.

To be fair they eliminated Cat/Lady Stark who's chapters may have been even worse.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Sansa is going to riverlands im guessing

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I'm mostly happy with the departures from the books, but don't understand what's going on with Sansa, Litltlefinger and Sweetrobin. It appears Littlefinger is warding Robin with someone in the Eyrie, right? And he and Sansa are heading "west" - that's all I got out of it. Based on the newly-released advance chapter from the next book, its possible they are cutting out a massive (and very slow-moving) storyline with LF, Sansa and Robin at the Eyrie - probably another wise move.

 

[Rick James]

the TV-only thread is just as hilarious as ever. Does Gendry have king's blood? Does Cersei have two children or three? lmao

 

[Mjolnirs]

I watched the finale from last season and then the opener back to back. Seemed like a nice continuation. The Brienne of Tarth storyline can just go away. Just like the books. Just wasted pages. Nothing like flipping a page and seeing BRIENNE on the top of the next page. Uggg.

True, but the fight between her and the hound was a great one.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

the TV-only thread is just as hilarious as ever. Does Gendry have king's blood? Does Cersei have two children or three? lmao

Was just going to post this. Don't forget to check into that bad-boy...hilarious.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

With tywin lannister dead. Why would littlefinger feel the need to flee the vale? They seem pretty safe there. Must have bigger asperations

 

[Kraft...]

If they head for the Riverlands isn't there a better chance Sansa will be recognized(even with the dye job)?

Different Actor playing Kevin Lanister? Or have we not seen him on the show before?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Sansa's going to Winterfell, guys

 

[CletiusMaximus]

With tywin lannister dead. Why would littlefinger feel the need to flee the vale? They seem pretty safe there. Must have bigger asperations

Seems almost certainly a plot expediency device, and potentially a major departure from the books.

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

Sansa's going to Winterfell, guys

Why? Not seeing this.

 

[Sabertooth]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Season previews. I don't understand it, either - hence my earlier thoughts/question about if/how she's going to be used to combine other characters.

 

[Kraft...]

Where did they leave the Bolton/Theon situation last Season? Just showed them arriving at Winterfell off in the distance IRRC.

 

[Harry Manback]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.

She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

 

[Rick James]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.

She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

oh #### I remember reading an article that mentioned a really disturbing couple of scenes for Sansa. this may be true..

 

[The Duff Man]

In the book didnt Littlefinger take her to the barren rock where he grew up?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

In the book didnt Littlefinger take her to the barren rock where he grew up?

Initially yes, then to the Eyrie. The recently-released preview chapter linked a few days ago in this thread is a Sansa chapter that gives some insight as to where that story is heading.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

oh #### I remember reading an article that mentioned a really disturbing couple of scenes for Sansa. this may be true..

So no fake arya. A real stark to marry ramsay. Hmmmm. Could very well be. U would think that lf would want sansa for himself though. What does he gain?? Alliance w boltons???

 

[Rick James]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

oh #### I remember reading an article that mentioned a really disturbing couple of scenes for Sansa. this may be true..

So no fake arya. A real stark to marry ramsay. Hmmmm. Could very well be. U would think that lf would want sansa for himself though. What does he gain?? Alliance w boltons???

Remember in the books Baelish tells Sansa that he is trying to wed her to "Harry the Heir"...so her getting it on with Bolton would be a huge change

 

[Sabertooth]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

oh #### I remember reading an article that mentioned a really disturbing couple of scenes for Sansa. this may be true..

So no fake arya. A real stark to marry ramsay. Hmmmm. Could very well be. U would think that lf would want sansa for himself though. What does he gain?? Alliance w boltons???

I think he would make it so he had Winterfell and the Eyrie. King in the North?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

oh #### I remember reading an article that mentioned a really disturbing couple of scenes for Sansa. this may be true..

So no fake arya. A real stark to marry ramsay. Hmmmm. Could very well be. U would think that lf would want sansa for himself though. What does he gain?? Alliance w boltons???

I think he would make it so he had Winterfell and the Eyrie. King in the North?

Dont see how marrying sansa off to boltons make him anything.

 

[Buckna]

If they head for the Riverlands isn't there a better chance Sansa will be recognized(even with the dye job)?

Different Actor playing Kevin Lanister? Or have we not seen him on the show before?

Same guy, don't think we have seen him since season 1 or 2. He was shown as one of Tywins generals in their battle planning scenes. Don't recall if they named him outright.

 

[Sabertooth]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

oh #### I remember reading an article that mentioned a really disturbing couple of scenes for Sansa. this may be true..

So no fake arya. A real stark to marry ramsay. Hmmmm. Could very well be. U would think that lf would want sansa for himself though. What does he gain?? Alliance w boltons???

I think he would make it so he had Winterfell and the Eyrie. King in the North?

Dont see how marrying sansa off to boltons make him anything.

Actually you are right. I was thinking he was related.

 

[Thunderlips]

I watched the finale from last season and then the opener back to back. Seemed like a nice continuation. The Brienne of Tarth storyline can just go away. Just like the books. Just wasted pages. Nothing like flipping a page and seeing BRIENNE on the top of the next page. Uggg.

True, but the fight between her and the hound was a great one.

That kick in the pooter was legendary....

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Littlefinger going to marry Sansa off to Ramsay Bolton? Or Roose?

Based on some previews/interviews I'm guessing Ramsay.She's probably replacing Jeyne Poole, and Theon gets to "warm her up".

oh #### I remember reading an article that mentioned a really disturbing couple of scenes for Sansa. this may be true..

So no fake arya. A real stark to marry ramsay. Hmmmm. Could very well be. U would think that lf would want sansa for himself though. What does he gain?? Alliance w boltons???

I think he would make it so he had Winterfell and the Eyrie. King in the North?

Dont see how marrying sansa off to boltons make him anything.

Actually you are right. I was thinking he was related.

Much like the fake arya though. The boltons being married into the stark family would legitimize their claim. And peter could use sansa for some other gain that way.

 

[Thunderlips]

Littlefinger gains nothing by allying with the Boltons. They'd kick his ### and take his lunch money the second he walked into Winterfell with Sansa. To that, I imagine that Littlefinger is taking on more of the Davos role in regards to the Manderly's; i.e.... stirring up the North to get rid of them.

I guess the long con for him would be to try and become romatically involved with Sansa. while NOT getting rid of Robin. That way, he'd have legitimacy in the North, Eyrie and Riverlands (where I'm assuming he's still Lord Of Harrenhall).

 

[Thunderlips]

Also, I imagine that you'll see more finality in regards to the Freys if/when the Manderly's get involved. They didn't tell the story of The Rat King on the show for nothing....plus, I imagine Littlefinger has an axe to grind against Walder Frey for Cat's death.

 

[Sabertooth]

What was the Rat King story? I don't recall. It's been so damn long since I paid any attention.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Interesting odds at Ladbrokes:

OTHER MARKETS Who will die next?
Anyone dying and then resurrecting, will be considered dead for purposes of settlement.

• Stannis Baratheon 2/1
• Cersei Lannister 3/1
• Theon Greyjoy 5/1
• Petyr 'Littlefinger' Baelish 6/1
• Jaime Lannister 6/1
• Lord Varys 7/1
• Sansa Stark 12/1
• Tyrion Lannister 20/1
• Arya Stark 25/1
• Daenerys Targaryen 40/1

 

[Sinn Fein]

Good to see Bron still in the show.

 

[Sabertooth]

Good to see Bron still in the show.

I must have missed him.

 

[(HULK)]

Why would any of you think Littlefinger is going to marry Sansa off to Bolton. Sansa is currently married to Tyrion and no one thinks he's dead.

I feel like I walked into the TV only thread

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Sansa is (officially) Littlefinger's ******* daughter. Why would anyone be surprised if he used her that way? He's Lord Paramount over the Riverlands and Regent over the Vale.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I'm glad Young Griff is seemingly eliminated. Being that the show runners know the end game, it tells me that whole storyline is a big waste of time in the books. While there's changes from the books to the show, they aren't going to mess with things that would materially impact the overall ending or story.

 

[Mile High]

Why would any of you think Littlefinger is going to marry Sansa off to Bolton. Sansa is currently married to Tyrion and no one thinks he's dead.

I feel like I walked into the TV only thread

I agree doesn't make any sense. Didn't he say he was taking her somewhere safe from Cersie? How is rubbing her into Cersie face that she is now queen of the north keeping her safe from Cersie? Also why would the Boltons want her around? They murdered her mother and brother, how can they feel safe sleeping at night with her around.

 

[Thunderlips]

What was the Rat King story? I don't recall. It's been so damn long since I paid any attention.

I'm sorry...Rat Cook. Bran told it when there at the wall.....a cook kills the kings sons and serves him to the king in a pie. It was a story that was supposed to condemn the cook for killing a guest under his roof...ala Walder Frey.

 

[Thunderlips]

Sansa is (officially) Littlefinger's ******* daughter. Why would anyone be surprised if he used her that way? He's Lord Paramount over the Riverlands and Regent over the Vale.

Aren't the Frey's Lords over the Riverlands. I thought that Tywin upjumped them?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Well done in setting the stage. With it, we've eliminated:

Young Griff

All the extraneous players in the North

They're boiling off the water to get better soup.

Yeah, I love all the stuff they're cutting out. RIP Griff and Mance and I assume the whole Mance's baby crap.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Sansa is into Littlefinger. Even if Brienne finds her, she would rather stay with Littlefinger.

 

[dancer]

Why would any of you think Littlefinger is going to marry Sansa off to Bolton. Sansa is currently married to Tyrion and no one thinks he's dead.

I feel like I walked into the TV only thread

I imagine marriages can be annulled, especially when never consummated (and husband sentenced to death and missing)