Holt: slightly overrated? (1 Viewer)

[BigRed]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

 

[BroadwayG]

The dude is money.

If 93/1188/10 from him last year isn't enough for you, than yeah, there's some concern.

And 31 is not 'getting up there' for a receiver.

 

[CA_7]

Who is going in front of Holt? Chad and Steve Smith?

Holt was just above them pt-wise in my ppr league plus he was supposedly battling knee injuries last year.

Other factors working in Holt’s favor:

- Issac Bruce is the one getting older (really old…)

- With the year SJAX had in 2006 teams will have to respect the run much more.

- Marvin Harrison is the only guy that can match Holt’s consistency year-to-year

 

[CA_7]

Actually great article out today in Post-Dispatch about Holt's knee

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...BC?OpenDocument

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

 

[Londo]

Actually great article out today in Post-Dispatch about Holt's knee

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...BC?OpenDocument

As someone who just traded for Holt, this article makes me happy.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Can't really go wrong with Holt as your #1 receiver.

 

[Dhizz]

Can't really go wrong with Holt as your #1 receiver.

Way to go out on a limb. Let me guess, you can't go wrong with LT asyour #1 RB and Peyton as your #1 QB. Next you're going to tell me Gates is a solid TE.

 

[Fullback Fro]

Can't really go wrong with Holt as your #1 receiver.

Way to go out on a limb. Let me guess, you can't go wrong with LT asyour #1 RB and Peyton as your #1 QB. Next you're going to tell me Gates is a solid TE.

Are you always this Dickish?

 

[BigRed]

The dude is money.

For most of the 2d half last year he wasn't.

And 31 is not 'getting up there' for a receiver.

31 isn't ancient but is 'getting up there' for ANY football player, tho some positions more than others, obviously.Again I'm just questioning if his value isn't being perceived a little higher than it should be. I won't be too upset if he's my WR1 - just not sure I want to pay what I'd have to pay.

 

[ImTheScientist]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

 

[Bull Dozier]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

Peyton Manning wasn't the #1 QB until 2006, but he's been the consensus #1 QB for several years. The fact that he never finished #1 prior to 2006 didn't stop people from taking him as the #1 QB in most drafts. Predictable high ranking performance carries significant value. Holt finished somewhere between the #2 and #8 WR from 2000 through 2006, with his one exception being due to a lack of TDs. He finished #15 in 2002 with 91 catches and 1302 yards. That's not a bad down year.

 

[zoonation]

The dude is money.If 93/1188/10 from him last year isn't enough for you, than yeah, there's some concern.And 31 is not 'getting up there' for a receiver.

Torry Holt was useless in most games last year. No consistency (unusual for him, for sure) and a lot like Chad Johnson.Too many dud games last year.I would not take him top 3 and certainly not end second beginning of third round.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Can't really go wrong with Holt as your #1 receiver.

Way to go out on a limb. Let me guess, you can't go wrong with LT asyour #1 RB and Peyton as your #1 QB. Next you're going to tell me Gates is a solid TE.

Are you always this Dickish?

 

[ImTheScientist]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

Peyton Manning wasn't the #1 QB until 2006, but he's been the consensus #1 QB for several years. The fact that he never finished #1 prior to 2006 didn't stop people from taking him as the #1 QB in most drafts. Predictable high ranking performance carries significant value. Holt finished somewhere between the #2 and #8 WR from 2000 through 2006, with his one exception being due to a lack of TDs. He finished #15 in 2002 with 91 catches and 1302 yards. That's not a bad down year.

So you are selecting Hot #1??

 

[JayMan]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

I think the OP was stating that Holt was slightly overrated because of his inconsistent year in '06... I would reply to that 'who would you pick as WR1 this year?'... in my opinion, the simple fact that Holt only finished once in the top5 is not as important to as the fact that he finished in the top10 6 times in 7 years... I think that speaks for his year-in, year-out consistency and would not be afraid of picking him as WR1...

In fact, in the last 7 years (excluding only Holt's rookie season) only 7 WRs finished above Holt in the WR rankings more than once...

MHarrison - 5 ('06 - '04 - '02 - '01 - '00)TOwens ---- 5 ('06 - '04 - '02 - '01 - '00)RMoss ----- 4 ('03 - '02 - '01 - '00)JHorn ----- 3 ('04 - '02 - '01)CJohnson -- 2 ('06 - '05)DDriver --- 2 ('06 - '02)RSmith ---- 2 ('01 - '00)

I think that, with the WR1, you are looking for the safest of the bets... and only a few guys show less risk and more upside, in my opinion, than Holt... (and I don't own him in any of my leagues - unfortunately)

 

[Bull Dozier]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

Peyton Manning wasn't the #1 QB until 2006, but he's been the consensus #1 QB for several years. The fact that he never finished #1 prior to 2006 didn't stop people from taking him as the #1 QB in most drafts. Predictable high ranking performance carries significant value. Holt finished somewhere between the #2 and #8 WR from 2000 through 2006, with his one exception being due to a lack of TDs. He finished #15 in 2002 with 91 catches and 1302 yards. That's not a bad down year.

So you are selecting Hot #1??

No (to be honest, I don't do any serpentine draft, so my answer is not a fair answer), but the fact he has only finished top 5 once would not prevent me from putting him in my top 5 without hesitation.

 

[ImTheScientist]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

I think the OP was stating that Holt was slightly overrated because of his inconsistent year in '06... I would reply to that 'who would you pick as WR1 this year?'... in my opinion, the simple fact that Holt only finished once in the top5 is not as important to as the fact that he finished in the top10 6 times in 7 years... I think that speaks for his year-in, year-out consistency and would not be afraid of picking him as WR1...

In fact, in the last 7 years (excluding only Holt's rookie season) only 7 WRs finished above Holt in the WR rankings more than once...

MHarrison - 5 ('06 - '04 - '02 - '01 - '00)TOwens ---- 5 ('06 - '04 - '02 - '01 - '00)RMoss ----- 4 ('03 - '02 - '01 - '00)JHorn ----- 3 ('04 - '02 - '01)[b]CJohnson -- 2 ('06 - '05)[/b]DDriver --- 2 ('06 - '02)RSmith ---- 2 ('01 - '00)

I think that, with the WR1, you are looking for the safest of the bets... and only a few guys show less risk and more upside, in my opinion, than Holt... (and I don't own him in any of my leagues - unfortunately)

CJ is your #1 WR

 

[JayMan]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

I think the OP was stating that Holt was slightly overrated because of his inconsistent year in '06... I would reply to that 'who would you pick as WR1 this year?'... in my opinion, the simple fact that Holt only finished once in the top5 is not as important to as the fact that he finished in the top10 6 times in 7 years... I think that speaks for his year-in, year-out consistency and would not be afraid of picking him as WR1...

In fact, in the last 7 years (excluding only Holt's rookie season) only 7 WRs finished above Holt in the WR rankings more than once...

MHarrison - 5 ('06 - '04 - '02 - '01 - '00)TOwens ---- 5 ('06 - '04 - '02 - '01 - '00)RMoss ----- 4 ('03 - '02 - '01 - '00)JHorn ----- 3 ('04 - '02 - '01)CJohnson -- 2 ('06 - '05)DDriver --- 2 ('06 - '02)RSmith ---- 2 ('01 - '00)I think that, with the WR1, you are looking for the safest of the bets... and only a few guys show less risk and more upside, in my opinion, than Holt... (and I don't own him in any of my leagues - unfortunately)

CJ is your #1 WR

That's a fair choice... Marvin, CJ, Holt would be good WR1 picks in my opinion... but you can't argue against Holt inconsistent '06 season for not having him ranked 1 and be picking CJ based on that (I'm extrapolating here, those 'inconsistent '06 words were not yours)ETA that in '06 (TotalPts / WeekAvg / StDev)... CJ: 181.3 / 11.3 / 11.0... Holt: 178.8 / 11.2 / 7.9... showing that Holt had lesser week-in week-out scoring swings while scoring 2 points less during the course of the season

 

[JayMan]

The dude is money.If 93/1188/10 from him last year isn't enough for you, than yeah, there's some concern.And 31 is not 'getting up there' for a receiver.

Torry Holt was useless in most games last year. No consistency (unusual for him, for sure) and a lot like Chad Johnson.Too many dud games last year.

Which WR had less dud games than Holt last year?... (we would have to define dud games first though ) ... he only had less than 5pts in 2 of 16 games... while scoring 17.5 and 19.5 in FF playoff weeks (13 & 14)

 

[burd]

Holt had a few games where he wasn't productive, but overall he was a stud. I drafted Holt and Bulger and here's how I did:

 

[H.K.]

the fact he has only finished top 5 once would not prevent me from putting him in my top 5 without hesitation.

Top 5 once in FBG scoring, but IIRC almost 50% of the board plays PPR based on a poll done recently. Holt has been top 5 in that format at least the past three seasons. Like any player, adjust your ranking based on scoring system.

 

[BigRed]

I should have mentioned I was looking at it from non-PPR angle.

 

[fsufan]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

The reason his #s where down the 2nd half last year was due to SJ having a great 2nd half SJ had 90- receptions and 800 rec. yards, this hurt Holts #s. I look for down year for Holt by his standards with SJ coming into his own and the addition of Bennett and McMichaels. FF is about opportunity and I think Holt will have fewer opportunities due to SJ, MsMichaels and Bennett.

 

[Dirty Weasel]

There is no such thing as a consistent week-to-week WR (well, except for the WR who is on IR). Gimme the EOY stats anyday. Holt finishes up there every year.

 

[az_prof]

There is no such thing as a consistent week-to-week WR (well, except for the WR who is on IR). Gimme the EOY stats anyday. Holt finishes up there every year.

Given that he is 31 and is still recovering from surgery on his knee (Meniscus--same surgery as Meachem) concerns me. He has always been consistent, but it seems like the offense changed with the departure of Martz and is more run oriented too. I see him as a solid WR2, but I wouldn't want him as my WR1, especially in dynasty.

 

[BroadwayG]

FF is about opportunity and I think Holt will have fewer opportunities due to SJ, MsMichaels and Bennett.

He may have more opportunities since he will face less double-teams?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

In mocks it's not unusual to see him taken as 1st WR, and very often top 3 at least. And not saying it's ridiculous. But he is getting up there and went scoreless 7/9 games last year (and yardage quite unimpressive in those games too, ie weak FF wise). Cause for at least a little concern, or am I just reading into it too much?

I don't know if overrated is the appropriate word but according to FGB's career stats, he's only finished in the top 5 once. Holt Career Stats

I don't know why people always look past that

Peyton Manning wasn't the #1 QB until 2006, but he's been the consensus #1 QB for several years. The fact that he never finished #1 prior to 2006 didn't stop people from taking him as the #1 QB in most drafts. Predictable high ranking performance carries significant value. Holt finished somewhere between the #2 and #8 WR from 2000 through 2006, with his one exception being due to a lack of TDs. He finished #15 in 2002 with 91 catches and 1302 yards. That's not a bad down year.

I agree that being consistent each year holds some value, as you feel comfortable in getting a solid WR 1 when taking Holt. But the original post was saying he's being drafted as top 3 and if it's not in a PPR league as per the title of the thread, he may be slightly overrated. Nobody's saying the guy's a bust, how could they but if you have to draft him as WR2 off the board, I wouldn't be writing home about that pick.

 

[mlball77]

The posts about year-to-year consisntency as well as Holt being a very safe bet for top 5-10 every year are on the money in this discussion. I personally don't see McMichael and Bennett cutting into Holt's production significantly. I think they'll have a bigger impact on Bruce and SJax in the passing game. But thats only an educated guess. The Rams have always had a ton of weapons on offense while Holt has been there and he always produces. I think if anything he'll likely get a small bounce from returned health in 07. I do see some merit in the case for Holt falling outside of the top 3 WRs in 07 on draft day, but not much further... maybe #5 at worst. Sure, there are some WRs with a little more upside, but very few that are basically a lock for 1200 and 10. I realize I am higher on him than most, and I do concede there is a decent case to drop him lower than #3 on your draft board, but I think many are lending too much weight to potential upside in the equation and unjustly discounting year-to-year consistency. Just my opinion.

 

[SSOG]

I frequently wind up in Torry Holt in a lot of my leagues. In my mind, there is really very, very little difference between the top 3-5 WRs, and so I always break ties with the fact that Torry Holt is my favorite player in the entire NFL. There's no other WR I'd rather have playing on Monday Night if I'm down by 15 points than Torry "Big Game" Holt. There are few other WRs who are as classy as Holt, who are genuinely good guys. There are few other WRs who don't grandstand, or demand the ball, but who simply go out and perform in any way they can to help their team. Plus, his game is AMAZING. He truly is a pleasure to watch and a joy to cheer for.

In the end, his numbers easily justify taking him as one of the first WRs off the board, and the fact that I'm an unabashed Torry Holt fan is enough reason, in my mind, to grab him in the 2nd, even if it means overpaying ever so slightly. And to be honest, he has never disappointed me when he was on my team.

 

[kevinallen]

He had surgery on his knee this off-season. Plain and simple, there has to be (at the very least) a little concern.

In a no PPR league, 1pt 10 yds (rushing and receiving) 6pts TDs, he had weeks of 4, 5, 7, 6, 3, 5, and 5. All but one of those (week 8) came in the 2nd half of the season.

 

[SSOG]

In a no PPR league, 1pt 10 yds (rushing and receiving) 6pts TDs, he had weeks of 4, 5, 7, 6, 3, 5, and 5. All but one of those (week 8) came in the 2nd half of the season.

Who would you draft above him? Chad Johnson? The Chad had weeks of 6, 1, 6, 7, 3, 3, 3, and 5 (that's eight games under 7 points compared to Holt's seven). Almost all WRs had as many "bust weeks" as Holt, with the exception of Harrison and TO (who both have question marks of their own) and Steve Smith (who is my pick for the #1 WR).

 

[H.K.]

In the end, his numbers easily justify taking him as one of the first WRs off the board

'nuff said.

 

[JayMan]

In a no PPR league, 1pt 10 yds (rushing and receiving) 6pts TDs, he had weeks of 4, 5, 7, 6, 3, 5, and 5. All but one of those (week 8) came in the 2nd half of the season.

We all know that consistent week-in, week-out WRs don't exist... The idea here is to find the one that will have the less 'stinkers' during the season (how many WR had less than 5 points in only 2 weeks last year?) while being consistent year-in, year-out... I don't think there are many WRs ahead of Holt considering this

 

[kevinallen]

In a no PPR league, 1pt 10 yds (rushing and receiving) 6pts TDs, he had weeks of 4, 5, 7, 6, 3, 5, and 5. All but one of those (week 8) came in the 2nd half of the season.

Who would you draft above him? Chad Johnson? The Chad had weeks of 6, 1, 6, 7, 3, 3, 3, and 5 (that's eight games under 7 points compared to Holt's seven). Almost all WRs had as many "bust weeks" as Holt, with the exception of Harrison and TO (who both have question marks of their own) and Steve Smith (who is my pick for the #1 WR).

I'm not saying I would draft anyone above him. I'm pointing out the fact that you have to be concerned with the knee surgery this off-season and his performance in the last half of the season. Whether it was the knee bothering him, whether it was SJax taking away from him, whatever the reason, it's all a concern.In fact, I think he's a #1 WR in a 10-team league. If I could get him in the 3rd round (no sooner) of a redraft, I would jump on it.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

The dude is money.If 93/1188/10 from him last year isn't enough for you, than yeah, there's some concern.And 31 is not 'getting up there' for a receiver.

Torry Holt was useless in most games last year. No consistency (unusual for him, for sure) and a lot like Chad Johnson.Too many dud games last year.I would not take him top 3 and certainly not end second beginning of third round.

i had him last year and he caused me a lot of grief.

 

[jesseasi]

For what its worth - I traded Holt away in my keeper league.

I traded Holt + Romo + 22nd pick in Rookie draft for Steve Smith, Chris Chambers.

I think Holt is a stud - but I was worried about his production the 2nd half of last year. As soon as Pace went down due to injury his numbers went down huge.

7 TD's in the 1st 6 games last year.

3 TD in the last 10 games.

In those last 10 games I doubt he was in the top 20 of WR's.

62 yards per game over the last 10 with only 3TD's. Those are not #1 type WR numbers and nothing consistant. Add in two fumbles over that same time period.

But I do think he is a top 10 WR this year - but probably not top 5 like so many have him going.

 

[JayMan]

Let's look at last year's top10 WRs according to FBG scoring (i.e. noPPR).

I have posted the number of games the WR had at least 10pts and the number of games the WR had at least 5pts:

Harrison,Marvin-208.6---9-13Owens,Terrell---196.0--10-14Wayne,Reggie----185.0---8-15Johnson,Chad----181.4---6-12Holt,Torry------178.8---6-14Driver,Donald---178.4---7-13Evans,Lee-------177.1---8-12Smith,Steve-----176.7---9-13Walker,Javon----174.7---9-13Williams,Roy----173.2---7-13Note that Steve Smith's numbers are based on 14 gamesWe can see that the number of 'stinkers' - less than 5pts - are pretty close... with Wayne only posting 1 'stinker' and Owens and Holt being the only 2 WRs with only 2...

On the other hand, we can see that many owners got frustrated with Holt last year - since he scored at least 10pts only 6 times... the fewest number along with Chad Johnson!... two guys that are considered at the top of the WR rankings...

So, what are we looking for when drafting our WR1 (or even the WR1 overall) ?... If the total yearly FPts are the same - are we looking for the guy that will post 7-8 pts each week or the guy that will give us a win with 36pts but will have us throwing our beer can at the TV when he puts up 36yds?... I can't answer that one...

 

[Ned]

The dude is money.If 93/1188/10 from him last year isn't enough for you, than yeah, there's some concern.And 31 is not 'getting up there' for a receiver.

Torry Holt was useless in most games last year. No consistency (unusual for him, for sure) and a lot like Chad Johnson.Too many dud games last year.I would not take him top 3 and certainly not end second beginning of third round.

i had him last year and he caused me a lot of grief.

cj did worse (dud games). you gonna pass on him too?

 

[TheLastDispatch]

The dude is money.If 93/1188/10 from him last year isn't enough for you, than yeah, there's some concern.And 31 is not 'getting up there' for a receiver.

Torry Holt was useless in most games last year. No consistency (unusual for him, for sure) and a lot like Chad Johnson.Too many dud games last year.I would not take him top 3 and certainly not end second beginning of third round.

i had him last year and he caused me a lot of grief.

cj did worse (dud games). you gonna pass on him too?

i had cj two years ago.yeah i'll pass on both. i have them at WR 70 and 71, respectively.

 

[az_prof]

Let's look at last year's top10 WRs according to FBG scoring (i.e. noPPR).I have posted the number of games the WR had at least 10pts and the number of games the WR had at least 5pts:

Harrison,Marvin-208.6---9-13Owens,Terrell---196.0--10-14Wayne,Reggie----185.0---8-15Johnson,Chad----181.4---6-12Holt,Torry------178.8---6-14Driver,Donald---178.4---7-13Evans,Lee-------177.1---8-12Smith,Steve-----176.7---9-13Walker,Javon----174.7---9-13Williams,Roy----173.2---7-13

Note that Steve Smith's numbers are based on 14 gamesWe can see that the number of 'stinkers' - less than 5pts - are pretty close... with Wayne only posting 1 'stinker' and Owens and Holt being the only 2 WRs with only 2...On the other hand, we can see that many owners got frustrated with Holt last year - since he scored at least 10pts only 6 times... the fewest number along with Chad Johnson!... two guys that are considered at the top of the WR rankings...So, what are we looking for when drafting our WR1 (or even the WR1 overall) ?... If the total yearly FPts are the same - are we looking for the guy that will post 7-8 pts each week or the guy that will give us a win with 36pts but will have us throwing our beer can at the TV when he puts up 36yds?... I can't answer that one...

Instead of taking a chance on a WR coming off an injury, why not take a guy like Lee Evans, Donald Driver, or Roy a round or two later and stock up on RBs?

 

[Ducegonads]

Holt gives you points. Tough season last year but the numbers will be there if the knee is good to go. Jeeze give the guy a break.

 

[BigRed]

Let's look at last year's top10 WRs according to FBG scoring (i.e. noPPR).I have posted the number of games the WR had at least 10pts and the number of games the WR had at least 5pts:

Harrison,Marvin-208.6---9-13Owens,Terrell---196.0--10-14Wayne,Reggie----185.0---8-15Johnson,Chad----181.4---6-12Holt,Torry------178.8---6-14Driver,Donald---178.4---7-13Evans,Lee-------177.1---8-12Smith,Steve-----176.7---9-13Walker,Javon----174.7---9-13Williams,Roy----173.2---7-13

Note that Steve Smith's numbers are based on 14 gamesWe can see that the number of 'stinkers' - less than 5pts - are pretty close... with Wayne only posting 1 'stinker' and Owens and Holt being the only 2 WRs with only 2...On the other hand, we can see that many owners got frustrated with Holt last year - since he scored at least 10pts only 6 times... the fewest number along with Chad Johnson!... two guys that are considered at the top of the WR rankings...So, what are we looking for when drafting our WR1 (or even the WR1 overall) ?... If the total yearly FPts are the same - are we looking for the guy that will post 7-8 pts each week or the guy that will give us a win with 36pts but will have us throwing our beer can at the TV when he puts up 36yds?... I can't answer that one...

Nice post, thx. People talk about RB depth this year, but seems to me there's more WR depth.

 

[Bob Magaw]

one thing in favor of holt aging gracefully is that he rarely takes big hits...

sometimes he runs out of bounds like a franco harris equivalent of WRs, sometimes he goes down, but you don't see him take the kill shots...

possibly this is coaching from rams WR positional coach henry ellard... bruce is nasty, watch him catching the ball over the middle and he will chop out the DBs legs before he lets them get into him...

bruce is clearly doing something right (last legacy to LA player), between taking care of his body and doing what he needs to do to preserve his longevity... the fact that holt has been able to have bruce as a mentor for basically his whole career may be another factor in projecting HIS likely durability...

i also like the fact that he could be chasing the HoF and that could increase the chance he plays at a high level into his mid-30s...

jackson could take catches away, but there is always the possibility that if STL mounts an even better running game it could sustain more drives & red zone opps...

holt wasn't a prolific TD scorer earlier in his career but had been much better in recent seasons before injury-plagued '06...

there can't be many WRs that have averaged as many receptions/receiving yards in past half decade+...

 

[jurb26]

I agree that Holt is overrated. I've been saying this for 2 years now. He is a safe WR, no doubt. I just wouldn't take him in the top 3.

 

[JayMan]

I agree that Holt is overrated. I've been saying this for 2 years now. He is a safe WR, no doubt. I just wouldn't take him in the top 3.

Understood that he's a safe bet... Just curious, who were your top3 WR picks the last two years? And this year's?... to make sure I take note if you have a good track record

 

[Bojang0301]

I am finding you can get Holt relatively cheap in Dynasty... I would take advantage of that.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Chad Johnson had several games he didn't have good numbers as well. He is still a top WR, and so is Holt.

 

[Block]

I am finding you can get Holt relatively cheap in Dynasty... I would take advantage of that.

Yes...I got him as the 9th WR off the board in a recent dynasty startup.After: Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, TJ Housh, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Marques Colston, Roy Williams

 

[SSOG]

I am finding you can get Holt relatively cheap in Dynasty... I would take advantage of that.

Yes...I got him as the 9th WR off the board in a recent dynasty startup.After: Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, TJ Housh, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Marques Colston, Roy Williams

YIKES.