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Home-owners...What are your current projects? (1 Viewer)

I'm planning to put in a backsplash (~17 sq ft) of glass subway tiles in our kitchen. I'm fairly handy and have done some projects around the house but for some reason I'm nervous about this one. Specifically concerned about cutting and smoothing the cut edges. I've never laid tile before.

How big of a PIA will this be? I really love doing projects like this but this seems a little high on the "potential disaster" scale to me.
Any thoughts on this project? I need a reality check, I think.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Building-Products-SimpleMat-10-sq-ft-Tile-Setting-Mat-SM10R1/202828989
Interesting. Have you used this before?
Not yet. Took one of those home depot classes because I've never done this #### before and the guy highly recommended them. There is a limit to the size of tile you can use the mat with though. We were going to do small glass tile. Sure looks better and easier than mortar.

 
I have 8 guys in excavating my backyard as we speak. It's been graded toward the house and we have had flooding problems. This is all one week too late as we had Noah type rain on Sunday. I'm having a new slab poured Friday under a screened in porch and up next to the house on the other side. I'll be putting in a blue stone patio with the leftovers from our repaved front walk. And I have to figure out what to do with the "yard" area. We don't get much direct sun back there so there is no good solution. I'm probably going to install a fescue sod and water the #### out of it and cross my fingers. All of this has to be done before the baby comes in 3 weeks! Should be awesome. Oh and since it's a row house, everything has to be brought in or removed through the house.

Good times!
gl, gb- was just thinking about you, the house, the baby, the gold watch and everything.
:hifive: Thanks! If I ever get a chance to to take a breath I'll try to get some pictures up in the original thread. I'll stick some back yard pics here.

 
Any good/cheap/easy ideas for garage shelving for tools, shoes/boots, hoses, gardening supplies, random crap etc?
I got a large "Gladiator wall kit" on black Friday a few years back and love it. For the tools and such - I just did the thick OSB over a pair of stationary metal drawer units with a pegboard back-splash with lots of hooks and such for tools.
I have the Rubbermaid version - installed it about 4 years ago. Love it.

LeeRoy - How much sq. footage are you talking about here?
standard 2 car garage with a 16ft door
I would read reviews on the gladiator vs. the Rubbermaid vs. (other brand I can't think of). I'd imagine they'd all be relatively similar, but just in case. Like any organization project, start with getting rid of all of the #### that you don't need (if you haven't used it in over 3 years, it's probably best gone)....and 3 might be pushing it.

You want the commonly used items in easy to reach areas, etc.
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/727256-products-you-believe-in-lets-hear-em/page-17#entry18092567

Just one man's review, but he preffered RM over gladiator

 
Any good/cheap/easy ideas for garage shelving for tools, shoes/boots, hoses, gardening supplies, random crap etc?
I got a large "Gladiator wall kit" on black Friday a few years back and love it. For the tools and such - I just did the thick OSB over a pair of stationary metal drawer units with a pegboard back-splash with lots of hooks and such for tools.
I have the Rubbermaid version - installed it about 4 years ago. Love it.

LeeRoy - How much sq. footage are you talking about here?
standard 2 car garage with a 16ft door
I would read reviews on the gladiator vs. the Rubbermaid vs. (other brand I can't think of). I'd imagine they'd all be relatively similar, but just in case. Like any organization project, start with getting rid of all of the #### that you don't need (if you haven't used it in over 3 years, it's probably best gone)....and 3 might be pushing it.

You want the commonly used items in easy to reach areas, etc.
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/727256-products-you-believe-in-lets-hear-em/page-17#entry18092567

Just one man's review, but he preffered RM over gladiator
I would love to find a system like this with shallower shelves for a pantry. Anyone know of one?

 
This summer we are house walling our garage. I already built out our attic which has a ton of great space to store all our memory bins and my kid's great toys that we want to keep for his kids one day or grand kids etc.

Now we will get a couple of estimates to apoxy the floor, and get our ultimate garage set up. In South Florida your garage is akin to a basement like folks have up north. I want everything off the floor. It will be really sweet when it's all done.

I figure I am going to end up dropping anywhere between 4-7K when all is said and done.

 
For those of you working on garage storage - if you're goal is purely to maximize storage and not so much aesthetics, I'd strongly recommend you consider the Closetmaid maximum load shelftrack stuff. It's basically a heavy-duty version of the Closetmaid closet track stuff. Easy to install, very customizable as far as length, and shelf heights. If you go the extra step to attach not only the track header, but also the standards (vertical pieces) to studs, you can basically load those shelves down with as much stuff as you want. I've got a wall that's probably 18' x 14' with about 6 full-length shelves on it. It's probably got at least 1,500 lbs of stuff in total, and it's not going anywhere. I use plastic bins exclusively for storage on them. You can outfit a wall that size with shelves and tons of bins for a fraction of the cost, and I'd argue it holds more. Doesn't look as nice though.

 
That looks really nice...my issue is always with flexibility as I get more/new stuff. I always have issues making "pretty" storage functional, which is why I almost always resort to just lots and lots of shelves, and plastic bins. I LOVE plastic bins. My MIL thinks I'm nuts when I ask for bins for X-mas.
LOL we love those plastic bins too. They are all going up in the attic now. Stuff we do not need access to goes in the attic now. I need my garage functional with specific space for my golf bag, kids baseball equipment and training space. Tools, car wash stuff, bikes and general storage. I have a pressure cleaner and Honda Generator, a fert wagon etc. I just want everything off the floor so we plenty of space for things that need to be on the floor but on the side.

This should really get my garage as a clean nice space again. I also want to be able to pull both my cars in in case of a hurricane etc. So doing this will accomplish the goal of having a true 2 car garage again.

 
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That looks really nice...my issue is always with flexibility as I get more/new stuff. I always have issues making "pretty" storage functional, which is why I almost always resort to just lots and lots of shelves, and plastic bins. I LOVE plastic bins. My MIL thinks I'm nuts when I ask for bins for X-mas.
LOL we love those plastic bins too. They are all going up in the attic now. Stuff we do not need access to goes in the attic now. I need my garage functional with specific space for my golf bag, kids baseball equipment and training space. Tools, car wash stuff, bikes and general storage. I have a pressure cleaner and Honda Generator, a fert wagon etc. I just want everything off the floor so we plenty of space for things that need to be on the floor but on the side.

This should really get my garage as a clean nice space again. I also want to be able to pull both my cars in in case of a hurricane etc. So doing this will accomplish the goal of having a true 2 car garage again.
So what did you do in your attic? What kind of attic access do you have?

I've got a HUGE attic with a pull-down step access. Like...I could build a decent sized room up there with full-height ceilings. I use it for some storage right now for really basic stuff, but it's not temperature controlled, and the stuff is just on top of plywood laid over the insulation.

 
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!

 
matttyl said:
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!
That sounds cool. If you want it to keep the wood finish, I'd do a few coats of Dewaxed Shellac then cover with a Spar Polyurethane.

The Dewaxed Shellac is sort of a universal sealer. It brings out some of the natural color (more of an amber) of the wood, and seals it up. Since it was used as a butcher block, who knows what kinds of things seeped into the wood over the years. The shellac will keep them locked in, as well as give a nice even finish. Put a few coats on, and knock down any raised grain with 400+ grit sand paper after each coat. Once that's done, you should have a really smooth finish.

Then, apply a nice Spar Polyurethane. Use as many coats as you can. Go one with the grain of the wood, then scuff-sand, then do the next against the grain, scuff sand, etc. If you want a really good finish, use an HPLV sprayer or something for the last coat. It'd take forever to do every coat with a sprayer b/c they don't offer as much build-up, and you want a nice thick finish, but for the last coat, a sprayed on finish will really look good.

 
Fianlly finished a new section of fence around my pool with the help of a neighbor.

Next up is replacing 6-10 boards on my deck. Will be demo'ing tonight and going to the lumber yard.

Landscapers are currently working on the back yard clearing, leveling, and adding dirt before they sod later this week (hopefully).

 
matttyl said:
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!
That sounds cool. If you want it to keep the wood finish, I'd do a few coats of Dewaxed Shellac then cover with a Spar Polyurethane.

The Dewaxed Shellac is sort of a universal sealer. It brings out some of the natural color (more of an amber) of the wood, and seals it up. Since it was used as a butcher block, who knows what kinds of things seeped into the wood over the years. The shellac will keep them locked in, as well as give a nice even finish. Put a few coats on, and knock down any raised grain with 400+ grit sand paper after each coat. Once that's done, you should have a really smooth finish.

Then, apply a nice Spar Polyurethane. Use as many coats as you can. Go one with the grain of the wood, then scuff-sand, then do the next against the grain, scuff sand, etc. If you want a really good finish, use an HPLV sprayer or something for the last coat. It'd take forever to do every coat with a sprayer b/c they don't offer as much build-up, and you want a nice thick finish, but for the last coat, a sprayed on finish will really look good.
Thanks for this! I have some spar poly already, didn't consider a dewaxed shellac before it, though. I'll see if I can get some.

It came with an extra, larger, removable top as well as the top that was original (which has the sink bay cut out). The larger top is just a solid butcher block. My first step is to get the original top set up as a bar. Once that's up and running, I might attempt to get the second top sanded down and able to be used as a "food prep" station for my BBQ grill. What would I need to do with that top to make it "food safe" if anything, aside from what you described above?

Thanks again!

 
matttyl said:
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!
You don't need to go to 220 - especially on something intended for outdoor use. 150 would probably be plenty, 180 if you want to go to an indoor level of sanding. Is it already stripped? If not, you might start with 80 grit if you plan on sanding off all the old finish. Citristrip is messy as hell but can make it a bit easier.

As mentioned, de-waxed shellac, stain or dye and then a bunch of outdoor use Poly.

 
Also - shellac can have an amber hue to it. If you don't want that (like you want a clean maple look) you can get clear shellac.

 
In addition to the ongoing hanging of pictures, shelves etc, I stripped down an old Oak pedestal table and chairs. I'm going to paint the base and the chairs so wasn't too worried about getting everything off but the table top is going to be stained.

Before - (forgot to take a true before. This is after i put on the CitriStrip)

After

 
matttyl said:
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!
That sounds cool. If you want it to keep the wood finish, I'd do a few coats of Dewaxed Shellac then cover with a Spar Polyurethane.

The Dewaxed Shellac is sort of a universal sealer. It brings out some of the natural color (more of an amber) of the wood, and seals it up. Since it was used as a butcher block, who knows what kinds of things seeped into the wood over the years. The shellac will keep them locked in, as well as give a nice even finish. Put a few coats on, and knock down any raised grain with 400+ grit sand paper after each coat. Once that's done, you should have a really smooth finish.

Then, apply a nice Spar Polyurethane. Use as many coats as you can. Go one with the grain of the wood, then scuff-sand, then do the next against the grain, scuff sand, etc. If you want a really good finish, use an HPLV sprayer or something for the last coat. It'd take forever to do every coat with a sprayer b/c they don't offer as much build-up, and you want a nice thick finish, but for the last coat, a sprayed on finish will really look good.
Thanks for this! I have some spar poly already, didn't consider a dewaxed shellac before it, though. I'll see if I can get some.

It came with an extra, larger, removable top as well as the top that was original (which has the sink bay cut out). The larger top is just a solid butcher block. My first step is to get the original top set up as a bar. Once that's up and running, I might attempt to get the second top sanded down and able to be used as a "food prep" station for my BBQ grill. What would I need to do with that top to make it "food safe" if anything, aside from what you described above?

Thanks again!
Zinsser makes a pretty good pre-mixed de-waxed shellac that you can find in the box hardware stores. Rockler also has a ton of different kinds, including flakes in different hues.

I think the Spar Poly would be enough to make it food safe. You just want something that's non-porous. The same thing that makes it good for weather resistance would make it fine for food as far as food tainting the surface goes. As far as the other way around, I think most all new finishes have to be "food safe" when fully cured, i.e. they can't taint the food.

 
matttyl said:
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!
You don't need to go to 220 - especially on something intended for outdoor use. 150 would probably be plenty, 180 if you want to go to an indoor level of sanding. Is it already stripped? If not, you might start with 80 grit if you plan on sanding off all the old finish. Citristrip is messy as hell but can make it a bit easier.

As mentioned, de-waxed shellac, stain or dye and then a bunch of outdoor use Poly.
I would still recommend lightly sanding after each coat of shellac though. If you're sanding off the old wood, down to the new, as soon as you get that wet, you're going to get some grain raising up. You'll want to knock that off after each coat of shellac until you don't get it anymore, otherwise it'll feel like your face after a day of shaving.

I've never used Citristrip to strip old paint or finish...Does stuff like that leave behind any sort of residue that causes issues with the next coat of stain? I haven't done much RE finishing, but I've done a few furniture builds and am pretty good with finishing new wood.

 
matttyl said:
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!
You don't need to go to 220 - especially on something intended for outdoor use. 150 would probably be plenty, 180 if you want to go to an indoor level of sanding. Is it already stripped? If not, you might start with 80 grit if you plan on sanding off all the old finish. Citristrip is messy as hell but can make it a bit easier.

As mentioned, de-waxed shellac, stain or dye and then a bunch of outdoor use Poly.
I would still recommend lightly sanding after each coat of shellac though. If you're sanding off the old wood, down to the new, as soon as you get that wet, you're going to get some grain raising up. You'll want to knock that off after each coat of shellac until you don't get it anymore, otherwise it'll feel like your face after a day of shaving.

I've never used Citristrip to strip old paint or finish...Does stuff like that leave behind any sort of residue that causes issues with the next coat of stain? I haven't done much RE finishing, but I've done a few furniture builds and am pretty good with finishing new wood.
It can. I had a couple places where it got into the grain a little bit and I had to use a wire brush to get it out. Although I scraped the top off as recommended, for the base and the chairs, I use a pressure washer to get it out of all the nooks and crannies.

 
Just went with Solar

Also purchased a generator and will connect to Natural gas line to house.
Did the math on this and, in Seattle, it just doesn't make sense from an ROI perspective unless you're sure you'll be in the house for at least 15 years or so.

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
I must be lucky. Our biggest expense will be a big, jetted tub at about $3500. I am redoing our entire floor, all the shower/tub surround, replacing a framed shower insert with seamless glass, repainting the cabinets and it's not going to be $10K. I am having the tub professionally installed along with the glass for the shower. I can't imagine the labor on the rest would be $20K though. Brand new twin vanities with marble tops were going to cost us about $3K, but we decided to refinish and just replace the tops. Our bathroom is huge.....way bigger than it needs to be really.

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.
I agree with everything you've said. 80% of the job is communication and scheduling. When the phone rings, you pick it up. Every time. You update people when there is no update.

ETA- I started my own home inspection company in 2001 and made a killing for about 5 years before the market fell apart. I was young and dumb(er) and nearly lost it all. Had to get a "real job" with Benny (2kids). Wife got a GREAT job with all benifits paid for and garonteed raises that will push her into 6 figures soon.

I learned a lot in my near downfall. I had a good work ethic then but have a much stronger one now. I'm hungrier. While I'm more confident in everything I do, I recognize the things I am not good at.

I'm excited. While studying for the test I'm going to try and find a steal on a small van/truck and start small. There is enough runoff of work that I'll get a few small jobs just by placing my truck in view.

It's A LOT more complicated then that obviously, but if I follow through I feel good about my chances.

 
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pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.
the guys I've been working with are making absolute bank, but I know from my days doing "lower" end work (not $1k+/sf) that a ton of these guys go out of business fast. can't tell the number of times I've worked with or bid somebody on one project who is *poof* gone by the time I call them to bid the next one. from my experience on the other side of it, I think the problem is often that the GC is at the mercy of their subs- who are operating on a shoestring. The GC is also responsible for a lot of money going out- when the subs or orders get ####ed up- they immediately take a big hit. Also, a lot of these guys are great builders, but not so great project manager/coordinators- the best GCs have to be both. my 2c.

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.
the guys I've been working with are making absolute bank, but I know from my days doing "lower" end work (not $1k+/sf) that a ton of these guys go out of business fast. can't tell the number of times I've worked with or bid somebody on one project who is *poof* gone by the time I call them to bid the next one. from my experience on the other side of it, I think the problem is often that the GC is at the mercy of their subs- who are operating on a shoestring. The GC is also responsible for a lot of money going out- when the subs or orders get ####ed up- they immediately take a big hit. Also, a lot of these guys are great builders, but not so great project manager/coordinators- the best GCs have to be both. my 2c.
Agree, especially the bolded...nearly every GC I know of that has had issues works job-to-job. I've never understood how you can make so much money, yet have so little money. I feel like you have to have a sizable enough float of cash to get you through jobs. If you're relying on one job to pay for the next job, or even relying on a customer's bill to pay for their OWN job, you're going to have a lot of debts, a lot of outstanding bills with suppliers, etc. Even the best guy will end up with a customer who's slow to pay. I remember asking my GC for our bathroom what could speed him along. The job was taking forever...we were going on 3 months, and the wife had just had our son 7 weeks early. He said, "I need the next payment installment so I can go get your tub, glass, and counters. They won't give them up till I pay." I was shocked that he literally needed money to go get stuff to speed things along. Now it might have been a bit of a ruse, but whatever. We had a good relationship, and I know he was good for the work, and he knew I was good for the $$, but it was shocking to me that he didn't have money to make that kind of thing happen. When you have that many in-flows and out-flows, you can't have a bank account that dips so low that you can't make good without more cash.

Second part was also true for our guy. Great work. Literally a skilled craftsman in every way. Horrible horrible horrible at scheduling anything...to the point that he missed out on work for the neighbor, and we're not considering him for the basement (where build time is more important than craftsmanship).

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.
I agree with everything you've said.80% of the job is communication and scheduling. When the phone rings, you pick it up. Every time. You update people when there is no update.

ETA- I started my own home inspection company in 2001 and made a killing for about 5 years before the market fell apart. I was young and dumb(er) and nearly lost it all. Had to get a "real job" with Benny (2kids). Wife got a GREAT job with all benifits paid for and garonteed raises that will push her into 6 figures soon.

I learned a lot in my near downfall. I had a good work ethic then but have a much stronger one now. I'm hungrier. While I'm more confident in everything I do, I recognize the things I am not good at.

I'm excited. While studying for the test I'm going to try and find a steal on a small van/truck and start small. There is enough runoff of work that I'll get a few small jobs just by placing my truck in view.

It's A LOT more complicated then that obviously, but if I follow through I feel good about my chances.
Amen...Especially the "update people even when there is no update." This is so key. I feel infinitely more confident in anyone if they call just to say, "I haven't talked to you for a while. Nothing really to update, but I just wanted to check in." Compared to the "Hey...haven't heard from you in a week...nobody was here yesterday working. What's going on? Call me back...again"

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.
I agree with everything you've said.80% of the job is communication and scheduling. When the phone rings, you pick it up. Every time. You update people when there is no update.

ETA- I started my own home inspection company in 2001 and made a killing for about 5 years before the market fell apart. I was young and dumb(er) and nearly lost it all. Had to get a "real job" with Benny (2kids). Wife got a GREAT job with all benifits paid for and garonteed raises that will push her into 6 figures soon.

I learned a lot in my near downfall. I had a good work ethic then but have a much stronger one now. I'm hungrier. While I'm more confident in everything I do, I recognize the things I am not good at.

I'm excited. While studying for the test I'm going to try and find a steal on a small van/truck and start small. There is enough runoff of work that I'll get a few small jobs just by placing my truck in view.

It's A LOT more complicated then that obviously, but if I follow through I feel good about my chances.
Amen...Especially the "update people even when there is no update." This is so key. I feel infinitely more confident in anyone if they call just to say, "I haven't talked to you for a while. Nothing really to update, but I just wanted to check in." Compared to the "Hey...haven't heard from you in a week...nobody was here yesterday working. What's going on? Call me back...again"
preach. or not replying to a question because there's no answer yet... guess what, that's an answer that works for me. silence doesn't.

further- sending somebody a package (email, regular, whatever) and not getting a reply confirming receipt. why do I have to be the one to follow up to make sure that you got the thing I sent? I always email people- received the thing, will review and get back to you with any quesitons.

 
I woke up this morning, got the coffee out and stared into our old pantry for about five minutes waiting on the coffee. The pantry is 48" wide x 8' tall x 36" deep. Almost floor to ceiling 12" pine shelving is nailed to pine frames in a "u" shape as old as the house, 1972. It's been painted sanded papered over and over over the years. 10 years ago I shaped the worn edges to look uniform, sanded lightly, primed, then put down fresh shelf liner.

By 8:30 the shelving was torn out. Some of the stringers/frames came out, but not all. I put a baseball size hole in the drywall with my demolition skills.

First thought was completely clear the space, hang fresh drywall, paint, and insert a 48x18 wire rack. Done. The ladies of the house shot that down. I had no idea wire racks were such a bad idea. I think waking them up with a hammer and crowbar might be the real problem.

Any clever pantry ideas?

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.
I agree with everything you've said.80% of the job is communication and scheduling. When the phone rings, you pick it up. Every time. You update people when there is no update.

ETA- I started my own home inspection company in 2001 and made a killing for about 5 years before the market fell apart. I was young and dumb(er) and nearly lost it all. Had to get a "real job" with Benny (2kids). Wife got a GREAT job with all benifits paid for and garonteed raises that will push her into 6 figures soon.

I learned a lot in my near downfall. I had a good work ethic then but have a much stronger one now. I'm hungrier. While I'm more confident in everything I do, I recognize the things I am not good at.

I'm excited. While studying for the test I'm going to try and find a steal on a small van/truck and start small. There is enough runoff of work that I'll get a few small jobs just by placing my truck in view.

It's A LOT more complicated then that obviously, but if I follow through I feel good about my chances.
Amen...Especially the "update people even when there is no update." This is so key. I feel infinitely more confident in anyone if they call just to say, "I haven't talked to you for a while. Nothing really to update, but I just wanted to check in." Compared to the "Hey...haven't heard from you in a week...nobody was here yesterday working. What's going on? Call me back...again"
preach. or not replying to a question because there's no answer yet... guess what, that's an answer that works for me. silence doesn't.

further- sending somebody a package (email, regular, whatever) and not getting a reply confirming receipt. why do I have to be the one to follow up to make sure that you got the thing I sent? I always email people- received the thing, will review and get back to you with any quesitons.
Dealing with a non-communicator right now on a non house related project. Makes me kind of nuts, and worse, he's my daughter's best friend's dad. When he works, he's gold. I get better communication by having my daughter text his daughter. Oy.

 
matttyl said:
Might need some advice with a little project I have going. I found an older butcher block kitchen cart, which looks a lot like this one (though very used). It doesn't have an outlet strip, but that's something I might do myself.

Anyway, I'd like to "re-purpose it" for some outdoor use, for use as a small bar. It actually has a sink bay cut out of it, and I hope to find a "dry sink" to put in there. I'm going to sand it down, starting with 100 grit paper and going down to 220 or so. After sanding, though, I'm unsure of what to do to "seal it". What can be used to keep water/beer/wine from penetrating the wood? Is this a situation for polyurethane? Stain? Thanks!
You don't need to go to 220 - especially on something intended for outdoor use. 150 would probably be plenty, 180 if you want to go to an indoor level of sanding. Is it already stripped? If not, you might start with 80 grit if you plan on sanding off all the old finish. Citristrip is messy as hell but can make it a bit easier.

As mentioned, de-waxed shellac, stain or dye and then a bunch of outdoor use Poly.
I would still recommend lightly sanding after each coat of shellac though. If you're sanding off the old wood, down to the new, as soon as you get that wet, you're going to get some grain raising up. You'll want to knock that off after each coat of shellac until you don't get it anymore, otherwise it'll feel like your face after a day of shaving.

I've never used Citristrip to strip old paint or finish...Does stuff like that leave behind any sort of residue that causes issues with the next coat of stain? I haven't done much RE finishing, but I've done a few furniture builds and am pretty good with finishing new wood.
Matty, you have good advice here for re-purposing it as a backyard bar, but it might be an awesome find for it's intended use. There's a reason the Boos block you linked to is nearly a grand. Jmo, but I'd hate to see one treated like anything but a proper chopping block especially if it has an end grain pattern.

All wood finishes sold in the US are non toxic once cured. That means they're safe to put food on them. Cutting boards are different because they get sliced and tapped with very sharp knives and most finishes are not safe for them. There's a couple ways to properly finish them. Food grade mineral oil with or without wax and salad bowl finish. If you plan on using it for food prep, and maybe you should because it sounds like a really cool find to me, then look into these finishes.

 
pricing out a ground floor, full bath addition. Though unless the 1st estimate is the high bid, looks like we'll be searching for another project. $30k just for a 6x9' bathroom? anyone know of good ways to trim costs from additions?
We paid $30K+ just to have our master bath renovated - not even an addition.

Basically, with bathrooms, the price can be whatever you want it to be given what you deck it out in. Builder-grade cabinets, basic faucets, not a lot of glass, pre-fab shower, etc...and the bathroom price can be under $5K easily...but you're adding on to your house. In and of itself, that's pricey, no matter what you do to the space.
This is why I'm getting my MHIC license and starting a GC. There is simply too much money in it (in our area) and over the past 4 years Ive learned how to supervise jobs.
I've got a good, 6-figure job, and there have been many times I've considered doing this as well. I enjoy hands-on stuff a lot more than working with numbers, and I see the kind of money GC's can make if they just have some sales skills and the ability to manage time, budget, and their workers. If I had time, I'd have done this job myself...at least a decent bit of it, but I just don't have time between work, a 1-year old, and actually trying to enjoy life.

If you bring a little professionalism to the renovation world, you can make a fortune. -Not trying to knock those of you in this trade, but we've typically had guys who build it and run, or are super-attentive BEFORE the job, and impossible to reach after. Repeat business is the key to any success. I wish more people understood that.
I agree with everything you've said.80% of the job is communication and scheduling. When the phone rings, you pick it up. Every time. You update people when there is no update.

ETA- I started my own home inspection company in 2001 and made a killing for about 5 years before the market fell apart. I was young and dumb(er) and nearly lost it all. Had to get a "real job" with Benny (2kids). Wife got a GREAT job with all benifits paid for and garonteed raises that will push her into 6 figures soon.

I learned a lot in my near downfall. I had a good work ethic then but have a much stronger one now. I'm hungrier. While I'm more confident in everything I do, I recognize the things I am not good at.

I'm excited. While studying for the test I'm going to try and find a steal on a small van/truck and start small. There is enough runoff of work that I'll get a few small jobs just by placing my truck in view.

It's A LOT more complicated then that obviously, but if I follow through I feel good about my chances.
Amen...Especially the "update people even when there is no update." This is so key. I feel infinitely more confident in anyone if they call just to say, "I haven't talked to you for a while. Nothing really to update, but I just wanted to check in." Compared to the "Hey...haven't heard from you in a week...nobody was here yesterday working. What's going on? Call me back...again"
preach. or not replying to a question because there's no answer yet... guess what, that's an answer that works for me. silence doesn't.

further- sending somebody a package (email, regular, whatever) and not getting a reply confirming receipt. why do I have to be the one to follow up to make sure that you got the thing I sent? I always email people- received the thing, will review and get back to you with any quesitons.
Dealing with a non-communicator right now on a non house related project. Makes me kind of nuts, and worse, he's my daughter's best friend's dad. When he works, he's gold. I get better communication by having my daughter text his daughter. Oy.
And his daughter calls my daughter to tell me he'll be here in a few minutes. Lame.

 
I'll preface this by saying that I don't consider myself very handy. My father never did #### around the house when I was growing up so I didn't learn from anyone, but I've been able to teach myself a few basic things over the years to get by. So with all that said, here's a question that I'm embarrassed to ask considering what you guys are doing but here goes...

Have a very basic doorknob for a closet. No lock and just a simple handle. A couple months ago, the latch stopped clicking when closed so the door could be opened just by pulling, and not turning. I took off the strike plate from the door frame, and it goes back to clicking when closed and requires the handle to be turned in order to open. For the life of me I can't figure out what caused the initial issue or why taking the plate off solves the problem. Obviously I can leave the plate off but I'd like to just fix it.

FTR the only reason I care about the door being able to be opened when pulled, and not turned, is because one of our cats figured out how to open the door by pulling it from the bottom, and the devious little ####er waits for our other cat to go into the closet and then he closes him in.

 
Strike plate isn't lining up with the latch bolt. When the plate is on it restricts the size of the hole (he he).

If you want the strike plate back on you'll have to move its position in relation to the jamb (up, down, in or out he he). Problem is the existing screw holes make it hard to reposition the strike plate (they will default to the old worn holes he he).

 
i am all set to do a ton of dishes when i get home tonight bromigos i will keep you updated take that to the bank

 
Strike plate isn't lining up with the latch bolt. When the plate is on it restricts the size of the hole (he he).

If you want the strike plate back on you'll have to move its position in relation to the jamb (up, down, in or out he he). Problem is the existing screw holes make it hard to reposition the strike plate (they will default to the old worn holes he he).
Thanks. I read something similar but couldn't figure out why it would start failing to line up correctly out of nowhere.

 
Strike plate isn't lining up with the latch bolt. When the plate is on it restricts the size of the hole (he he).

If you want the strike plate back on you'll have to move its position in relation to the jamb (up, down, in or out he he). Problem is the existing screw holes make it hard to reposition the strike plate (they will default to the old worn holes he he).
Thanks. I read something similar but couldn't figure out why it would start failing to line up correctly out of nowhere.
Wood expands and contracts. If it was "just right" during the winter, expanding could expand just enough to misalign during the spring/summer. We have a door that does that. It doesn't latch during the summer/spring. I just haven't adjusted it.

 

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