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The unnamed source says Angels or Blue Jayshttp://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/arol...oming-soon.html
what a gross outfield that is
I'd trade it straight up for Rowand, Lewis, Velez and Schierholtz....and then DFA Podswhat a gross outfield that is
Gross is still in Tampa Baywhat a gross outfield that is
Would be a great signing for the Rangers, but his knees are shot and he should not play in the OF at all. As a full time DH, he should have no problem hitting .300 while driving in 100 +.
Let's not talk bad about the pride of West, Texas. Home of the best kolaches in the state.
Great signing. 1 year deal, no risk. And Myers has the ability to be a solid # 2 or # 3. He just needs to work on giving up less home runs. Seemed like he gave up 2 a game.
Houston's not a good park for him but then again, neither was Philadelphia
We'll see. Reports are still widely conflicting about this. They're also visiting with Jermaine Dye.
Seattle sure is. Still the M's though, lol.
They bought his three arbitration years plus his first year of free agent eligibility. It's one of those deals that is hard to assess until 2013. If Gutierrez has been good enough over 2010-2 to get a big free agent deal, the Ms get that first year at a big discount. Otherwise it's insurance for Gutierrez and avoids arbitration battles.Gutierrez is pretty average offensively so they're paying for his glove. Defense doesn't slump but it can age and get hurt.
Guess I was wrong. Looks like Vlad is coming to Arlington.
And he is bringing Khalil Greene with him.I have drafted Vlad and Greene in more than one fantasy draft together in my lifetime.
I actually think this was a particularly bad move by the Ms. Defense isnt rewarded properly in arbitration (and the tranvishamockery that he didnt win a gold glove would help in this regard) and all indications are that players peak defensively much younger than they do offensively and that there is a linear regression from that peak. So its likely Gutierrez will be worse defensively every year of the deal. If his bat improves enough to make up the difference it could still be an ok deal, but I just dont see the need to lock him up.
The M's have really commited to having a solid defense. Though they let Beltre, a defensive stalward at 3rd, go to Boston they replaced him with Chone Figgins who is pretty good at third himself.I kind of like the deal. The guys at ussmariner.com seem to love the deal, calling it "the deal of the century". Not sure I'd take that literally but it is a good deal. The M's will lack some pop in their lineup and may need a 4/5 pitcher, depending on how you feel about Snell, Petit, Fister. But they will have a solid team and this signing fits how they want to build the team, with pitching and defense.
Depends on the incentive clausesshadyridr said:Currently #1 on my undervalued list for 2010 fantasy baseball.
Seems like the Yanks and Bosox are tempering their speculations on guys like this. Guess it makes better economic sense to wait to see if they pan out then sign them down the road.Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
Maybe the Yanks and Sox figured why spend money on someone who might only be a 5th starter....This year. They need people for this year....so might as well take money elsewhere. Perfect for this team since they can be more patient and not expect him to be ready now.Baiiley, Cueto, Volquez (when he comes back), Chapman, Leake, Wood. I'd say the Reds have just about the best young nucleus of pitching in MLB.Seems like the Yanks and Bosox are tempering their speculations on guys like this. Guess it makes better economic sense to wait to see if they pan out then sign them down the road.Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
In before the Dusty Baker jokesHoly ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
Yanks are already at their payroll limit (I guess we finally figured out where that was)Seems like the Yanks and Bosox are tempering their speculations on guys like this. Guess it makes better economic sense to wait to see if they pan out then sign them down the road.Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
Didnt Bailey and Cueto both suck last year and Volquez had TJ surgery? Not saying I disagree with you but its amazing how quickly things change when it comes to pitching.Maybe the Yanks and Sox figured why spend money on someone who might only be a 5th starter....This year. They need people for this year....so might as well take money elsewhere. Perfect for this team since they can be more patient and not expect him to be ready now.Baiiley, Cueto, Volquez (when he comes back), Chapman, Leake, Wood. I'd say the Reds have just about the best young nucleus of pitching in MLB.Seems like the Yanks and Bosox are tempering their speculations on guys like this. Guess it makes better economic sense to wait to see if they pan out then sign them down the road.Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
Bailey was the best pitcher in MLB since the 3rd week in July. His last 9 starts, gave up 3ER or less each time and 1ER or less in 7 of them. And Cueto was lights out the first half of the season and in Sept. He got worn down and hit the DL in between those two timeframes. And yes, Volquez had TJ. But I still stand by my thought that the Reds have 4 potential TOR guys now that they have ChapmanDidnt Bailey and Cueto both suck last year and Volquez had TJ surgery? Not saying I disagree with you but its amazing how quickly things change when it comes to pitching.Maybe the Yanks and Sox figured why spend money on someone who might only be a 5th starter....This year. They need people for this year....so might as well take money elsewhere. Perfect for this team since they can be more patient and not expect him to be ready now.Baiiley, Cueto, Volquez (when he comes back), Chapman, Leake, Wood. I'd say the Reds have just about the best young nucleus of pitching in MLB.Seems like the Yanks and Bosox are tempering their speculations on guys like this. Guess it makes better economic sense to wait to see if they pan out then sign them down the road.Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
And don't forget about Leake in 2011.
Add about 7 or 8 more "holy ####" and you're where I was at when the news broke.Holy ####Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
I would temper some of that excitement.30 million is a lot to dish out for an unproven kid. If the Sox, or Yankees did it, they can sustain the blow if the kid sucks. Not sure your Reds can do the same.But good luck though. I hope he proves himself worth that 30 million and more.Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
Oh no doubt, there is definitely some risk involved. But if I'm reading it correctly, the contract is 5/$25M and an option for year 6. Also, this is paid out over 10 years.Still, even if he doesn't become the TOR guy, $6M for a closer when CoCo retires/leaves is still reasonable and very friendly to other teams looking for a closer in years 4/5/6 or whatnot. Just the fact that the Reds landed him is damn impressive by both BCast and Walt J. I definitely believe that having seen what Cincy has done in the Latin America the last couple of years and seeing the success Soto has had w/ Cueto and Volquez played a huge part in him signing w/ Cincy.Unless he's an absolute bust, $6M/year is a coup considering some of the contracts out there for SP's.I would temper some of that excitement.30 million is a lot to dish out for an unproven kid. If the Sox, or Yankees did it, they can sustain the blow if the kid sucks. Not sure your Reds can do the same.But good luck though. I hope he proves himself worth that 30 million and more.Holy ####!It seems as though my belove Reds have locked up Aroldis Chapman! Holy #### holy #### holy ####!
This part is true. As long as he's a warm body logging major league innings for the duration of the contract, he'll probably be worth that contract. There's upside to this deal. I like it.
5/$30M is a huge deal for a player who won't be eligible for arbitration until 2013 at the earliest. A better point of reference for the Chapman contract is Stephen Strasburg's 4/$15M deal with the Nationals. Chapman had more negotiating leverage but twice the total dollars is a big difference.I think it's a huge risk for a team like the Reds. It's around 8% of their total 25-man payroll. There will be a lot of pressure on them to rush Chapman to the majors. He probably needs a third pitch to be a successful starter and the Reds are still on the hook for another $25M worth of Coco Cordero. The signing is a bold move but we'll see if it's a wise one.
Behind Young, Kinsler and Elvis, Greene has the worst job in baseball if he wants playing time. Barring injury, those three might miss a total of 20 games. If Greene is getting significant playing time, something in wrong in Arlington.
Hopefully they have a lot of anti-depressants on the triple-A team in Oklahoma.
Officially, it's 5/25 and it's heavily backloaded. The first time his contract makes any real impact on the major league roster is 2014. This year, he's going to make about $1M. This is the type of risk that teams like the Reds should be taking.Plus, Strausburg is arb. elidgible in 2013 and 2014, so his contract very well could fall much, much closer to Chapmans
"In the interview I heard with Crasnick, all he said was that $30M was a lot to give a guy who needed a year or two in the minors to develop.But that is why the Reds were able to get him. Teams like the Yankees and Red Sox only want players that help right now. They don't have time to deal with projects. There are enough players out there each year that can help them right now that they can just focus on them.The Reds can afford to send him to the minors for a year or two, since the contract is back loaded, and there's not much pressure on them to compete right away anyway."
Playing 1B?
This, exactly.Frankly, I'm shocked that the Reds shelled out this kind of money for a 22 year old pitcher. Makes no sense. Reds are a young team, and probably could use offense a touch more than shelling out a ton of money to an uproven pitcher. Unless this kid is the next Felix Hernandez, no way is this contract panning out for the Reds, not even close.Eephus said:
yeah, not sure about this one either.Sandoval is at First, they already have Garko begging for playing time, they just signed DeRosa to play 3B and signed Uribe......Looks like they are going to move Sandoval to 3b, DeRosa to LF and Huff at 1b? Not sure this makes the team any better. Huff is a nice bat in the lineup but not really a difference maker.
They non-tendered Garko in December.Pushing Ishikawa and Velez to bench roles is addition by subtraction.
ah, okay then. I know Garko had a rough stay in SF, but dang that guys still young, and getting paid next to nothing, I would think they may have wanted to try him out a bit more then what they did. Huff is basically an older (albeit a bit more proven) Garko
Garko was arbitration eligible so he would have gotten a raise, but he still would have been cheaper than what they're going to pay Huff.Sabean probably thinks Huff is grittier or somethingah, okay then. I know Garko had a rough stay in SF, but dang that guys still young, and getting paid next to nothing, I would think they may have wanted to try him out a bit more then what they did. Huff is basically an older (albeit a bit more proven) Garko
He's not a terrible signing but I really don't understand the reasoning behind acquiring Garko and then releasing him after 120 PAs in SF.
