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Footballguy
Yup. We use chicken to catch ‘em here in MD. What did you think they ate? (<—- not being a smart ***)
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House of the dragon. Game on! (3 Viewers)
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Yup. We use chicken to catch ‘em here in MD. What did you think they ate? (<—- not being a smart ***)
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Footballguy
The princess (and presently the heir to the iron throne,) takes off and runs away, chased only by one knight and nobody hears from them by morning and they all go out for the hunt instead of sending the entire camp to look for her?
beer 30
Footballguy
Yea I figured they would show the fight, seemed like the crescendo to Daemon's opus.
need2know
Footballguy
it was odd. i had to rewind to make sure i didint miss something. not sure why they thought that was a good idea
they built up crab man for nothing
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
HIs entire story had me being "that guy" who criticizes the logic of the dragon show. I kept thinking "if they've been holing up in the caves to avoid the dragons the whole time, then hasn't Daemon effectively ended their blockade of the shipping lanes anyway?" And, of course, Daemon's plan is kind of ludicrous, relying on the Crab Feeder to send his entire army out into the open to kill Daemon instead of letting Daemon rush into the caves to be surrounded where he'd have no support.
But I think part of what felt so cursory about the story was the structure of the episode. They do a little exposition about the situation in the beginning of the episode and then do 2/3 of an episode about the princess sulking (when most of the plot would never happen if we assume Viserys ever actually spoke to her), and then about 10-15 minutes to essentially give us that entire arc.
But despite all that, I didn't hate the episode. There isn't much point in being "that guy" for a fantasy show. The action was at least fun. The actors are doing fine. There has been a refreshing lack of "sexposition" after the premiere.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, you could see the McGuffin coming a mile away. Crabby Patty was purely there to separate Daemon and Corlys from the king and his allies.
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Footballguy
This episode was the first time that he came off remotely like a bowl to me.
ETA
(voice to text) - Obviously I meant likable but I’m gonna leave that alone up there.I get what you are saying. The only thing the crabbers had when holed up in the cave was shooting at the ships. If they could only hide, couldn’t the dragon take out those launchers? It’s not worth worrying about because it really didn’t matter. It was the end alliance that was important and was going to happen if it was the crab man or a guy who rode hippos that ate ship hulls.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Least favorite episode so far for me. Too much plot armor reminiscent of the last couple seasons of GOT.
Lol. I thought that was an insult but I agree. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going to die having never changed the heir to his son and so you’ll have 3 factions, Daemon/Corlys, Rhaenyra and Hightower et al with baby. We got the white stag so we know Rhaenyra is special, but how it shakes out is basically the theme for this season.This episode was the first time that he came off remotely like a bowl to me.
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Footballguy
And the calf.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
There's still the Triarchy which is the real power that created crab-man. I'm not sure that plot line is over just yet.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Lol. I thought that was an insult but I agree. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going to die having never changed the heir to his son and so you’ll have 3 factions, Daemon/Corlys, Rhaenyra and Hightower et al with baby. We got the white stag so we know Rhaenyra is special, but how it shakes out is basically the theme for this season.This episode was the first time that he came off remotely like a bowl to me.
ETA
Daemon may still have a claim of sorts just because of the time-honored rule of might makes right, but his claim is severely damaged by the King having a son. He had a decent shout against Rhaenyra just because she's a daughter (same as Viserys v his older sister), but as King's brother he's got pretty much nothing against a first born son. Rhaenyra is still in the game because of being first born and having been declared heir by the King.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
If you had YNYNYNYN - you won!
(although I'm not sure which dragon the new one was, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Vhagar.)
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Raising the inevitable question - would you eat a crab that ate a human?
That battle had some late-season Game of Thrones/Jon Snow at the Battle of the Bastards energy in the sense that it looked great, but neither side's tactics made even the slightest bit of sense.
More broadly, I'm finding the show to be well-acted but lacking in the compelling characters that Thrones had from the jump, like Tyrion, Ned Stark, King Robert, etc. I'm enjoying it so far, but I'm a little worried the insular focus on the Targs is going to make for a less interesting dynamic.
More broadly, I'm finding the show to be well-acted but lacking in the compelling characters that Thrones had from the jump, like Tyrion, Ned Stark, King Robert, etc. I'm enjoying it so far, but I'm a little worried the insular focus on the Targs is going to make for a less interesting dynamic.
wlwiles
Footballguy
I don't think it was stated definitively in the episode or maybe I'm reading too deep into it. Corlys Velaryon is the Sea Snake, right? Or is the Sea Snake his brother (Vaemon?) or someone else in the Velaryon house?
New Daario needs to tighten up a bit, almost getting the Princess killed like that.
New Daario needs to tighten up a bit, almost getting the Princess killed like that.
Zow
Footballguy
Enjoyed the episode. Agree with some of the criticisms, though, as some of the things didn't make sense (e.g. nobody looks for the heir to the thrown, battle tactics, relatively quiet demise of the featured villain, etc.).
Will keep watching, though. The actress playing the princess is great. I'm not bored during the show. And the pacing seems like a happy medium between the early GoT seasons versus the way too fast paced last couple of seasons.
Will keep watching, though. The actress playing the princess is great. I'm not bored during the show. And the pacing seems like a happy medium between the early GoT seasons versus the way too fast paced last couple of seasons.
Zow
Footballguy
That's my understanding. He controls like 1/2 the ships in Westeros. Which is why the strategic move was for the king to marry his daughter.
I got the impression that 1) it wasn't all that unusual of a thing for her to do, and 2) it was pretty clear that everyone thought that she could take care of herself
belljr
Footballguy
You use mostly chicken necks because of the smell not the taste.
There are not a lot of cows and pigs roaming around the beach and bottom of the sea
E Street Brat
Footballguy
This story is supposed to take place in a 28 year period. Jumping 10 years in season 1 seems a little much.
Maybe they should try something close to real time. Like one episode equals 1 month. of story line. That way Martin has time to finish the second book this time.
Daemon doesn’t need a claim to take the throne if he’s got the strongest backing.Lol. I thought that was an insult but I agree. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going to die having never changed the heir to his son and so you’ll have 3 factions, Daemon/Corlys, Rhaenyra and Hightower et al with baby. We got the white stag so we know Rhaenyra is special, but how it shakes out is basically the theme for this season.This episode was the first time that he came off remotely like a bowl to me.
ETA
Daemon may still have a claim of sorts just because of the time-honored rule of might makes right, but his claim is severely damaged by the King having a son. He had a decent shout against Rhaenyra just because she's a daughter (same as Viserys v his older sister), but as King's brother he's got pretty much nothing against a first born son. Rhaenyra is still in the game because of being first born and having been declared heir by the King.
belljr
Footballguy
I think it was the son of the other Targaryen - the one mentioned that was mentioned that Rhaneyreas should marry. The brother of the girl Valeryon offered up
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It was Corlys' son Laenor (right, experts more knowledgeable than me?). Hopefully, the show does a good job of explaining why the bolded isn't necessarily what you think it is.
Mile High
Footballguy
Yes it was.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Laenor Valyrean. He's half Targaryen.
belljr
Footballguy
well he is half Targaryeon
SWC
Bromigo
not only would i eat him brohan but i would respect him and the circle of life the whole damned time take that to the bank brochacho
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It's complicatedwell he is half Targaryeon
Redwes25
Footballguy
Thanks. That makes sense. I don’t have any idea what their names are either.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
psychobillies
Footballguy
I always heard the best time to eat crabs was after a plane crashed in Lake Pontchartrain.
Hes a king that loves his daughter and married for love instead of building his legacy. I kind of like the shift in the usual cookie cutter kings most of these shows have.
I dunno. I think we all assumed Daemon was setting up as the bad but it doesn't seem like it's going in that direction. He has no right to the thrown anyway.Lol. I thought that was an insult but I agree. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going to die having never changed the heir to his son and so you’ll have 3 factions, Daemon/Corlys, Rhaenyra and Hightower et al with baby. We got the white stag so we know Rhaenyra is special, but how it shakes out is basically the theme for this season.This episode was the first time that he came off remotely like a bowl to me.
ETA
Robert had no right to the throw either. Sometimes the winner makes their own claim and he’s part of the royal family so if he did “win” he’d be the guy.I dunno. I think we all assumed Daemon was setting up as the bad but it doesn't seem like it's going in that direction. He has no right to the thrown anyway.Lol. I thought that was an insult but I agree. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going to die having never changed the heir to his son and so you’ll have 3 factions, Daemon/Corlys, Rhaenyra and Hightower et al with baby. We got the white stag so we know Rhaenyra is special, but how it shakes out is basically the theme for this season.This episode was the first time that he came off remotely like a bowl to me.
ETA
I haven’t read the books so I have zero clue how this plays out so it should be fun. Seems like the little boy is the only one that doesn’t appear to have a role to play. I feel like the King and his son will both be gone soon.
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Footballguy
Robert had no right to the throw either. Sometimes the winner makes their own claim and he’s part of the royal family so if he did “win” he’d be the guy.I dunno. I think we all assumed Daemon was setting up as the bad but it doesn't seem like it's going in that direction. He has no right to the thrown anyway.Lol. I thought that was an insult but I agree. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going to die having never changed the heir to his son and so you’ll have 3 factions, Daemon/Corlys, Rhaenyra and Hightower et al with baby. We got the white stag so we know Rhaenyra is special, but how it shakes out is basically the theme for this season.This episode was the first time that he came off remotely like a bowl to me.
ETA
I haven’t read the books so I have zero clue how this plays out so it should be fun. Seems like the little boy is the only one that doesn’t appear to have a role to play. I feel like the King and his son will both be gone soon.
I feel like I’ve heard the name Aemon (or whatever he’s called) mentioned in past tense during one or more of the the GoT episodes.
The uncle and niece scene made my skin crawl. She just looks so young, it actually bothered me, even the next part as well. Wasn’t my favorite episode so far, although the hand getting pushed out wasn’t bad. We still don’t really have a good idea what Daemon even wants but it was interesting to see his queen was basically working for Hightower all along.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
His queen was working for Hightower?
Did you miss the part where she was waking Daemon up from his hangover? During that scene, the boy who told Hightower about the princess and Daemon came down the stairs and handed Daemon’s queen some money. I took that as her being Hightower’s pawn, maybe since the beginning of her relationship with Daemon. Very Littlefinger of him TBH and based on her reaction to not wanting kids and not wanting to ever be in harm’s way, it makes more sense that she’s been playing Daemon for a while.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I didn't notice the kid there. Is that what happened?
Yes, go back and watch to confirm but after he spilled the hangover cure, she was walking out and the kid came down and gave her money. I don’t see any other meaning because it was just after Hightower gave the kid money for his info. I assume that it is supposed to 100% tie her to being paid by Hightower. I took some liberties because of her saying she wants no part in kids as a confirmation that she’s been in the relationship due to Hightower. Opposite of say Rob Stark’s lady who got knocked up right away although she was not a whore. Anyway, I would recommend that you rewatch the end of that scene.
