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How 'bout them Reds! (4 Viewers)
- Thread starter shuke
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r0llin_game
Footballguy
If they sweep this series, I think they win the division. Next three series are against the Scrubbies, Crews, and Stros.
heckmanm
Footballguy
BigJohn
Footballguy
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Welp, this has been an encouraging series, said no one ever.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Saw it was back spasms acting up again. Not anything serious. Guessing Cueto should be back by the end of next along with Sean Marshall. Cueto threw another simulated game yesterday and felt great after 63 pitches.
heckmanm
Footballguy
cheese
Footballguy
Cueto is starting tonight. Sucks that it's on the one day that basically nobody in Cincinnati will be watching the game, but I'm just happy he's able to pitch. If they're going to make a run at the division, it has to start tonight with a shot in the arm from Cueto.
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cheese
Footballguy
Yes. It's not even close. Not far off from changing the question to whether he'll start against righties in playoffs.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I never even posted in this thread before, not once, hating on the Reds. Ironic the first time I look in, I see a Shuke left hook to the to my gumline.BOOM
Kenny Powers
The rest of this series, and the next, is so huge. I wants no business with Chapman.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I'd like to know when the Reds signed Tyrone Biggums, and when his last drug test was?? Clearly to me, he's still on the crack, because there is no other way he could run that fast.
:500Kcrackparty:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
coming down to Cincy for the weekend will be at the Reds/Pirates game on Saturday
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
It was in response to the typical Pittsburgh class shown in the other thread after the b2b homers.I never even posted in this thread before, not once, hating on the Reds. Ironic the first time I look in, I see a Shuke left hook to the to my gumline.BOOM
The rest of this series, and the next, is so huge. I wants no business with Chapman.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
shuke said:It was in response to the typical Pittsburgh class shown in the other thread after the b2b homers.Kenny Powers said:I never even posted in this thread before, not once, hating on the Reds. Ironic the first time I look in, I see a Shuke left hook to the to my gumline.shuke said:BOOM
The rest of this series, and the next, is so huge. I wants no business with Chapman.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Dude's scary. That stolen base was sick. Martin was catching the ball with his feet in position to throw, and he wasn't even close.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Since August 1st, the Bucs are 1 game under .500 at home and 2 games under on the road. You're correct that Liriano's numbers away from PNC are pretty bad. He's had some really bad clunkers on the road and just about every one of his home starts has been solid. In Cincy, he's had one bad start and one decent start. At home against Cincy, he's had 2 dominant starts.shuke said:
Burnett has also been much more dominant at home compared to the road. At home against Cincy, he's had 1 solid start and 1 mediocre. He only pitched one game in Cincy and it was bad.
So what about the young phenom Cole? He's actually been better on the road but thats based off of 39 innings. He has yet to face Cincy.
The last potential option would be Morton. Morton also has a better split at home but the gap is not as wide compared to Liriano and Burnett. Morton has only pitched once against Cincy (on the road) and that was a nice start (although it was back in June).
I think it's clear that the Pirates really need that homefield to have a good shot in the wildcard game. I would be thrilled to put LIriano or Burnett up against anyone in PNC. I guess if the game is in Cincy, they either have a very short leash on Liriano (if he's off, you'll know it right away) or just start Mr. Cole.
Who would be pitching for Cincy?
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cheese
Footballguy
Everyone would be guessing if they tried to answer that because nobody on the team will talk about anything other than how to finish 5-0 and catch the Cards.... hence the no celebration last night.
Throwing out random guesses, I would assume it's down to Latos or Cueto. It's risky to pick Cueto I guess because he's coming off injury, but if you trust anyone more than him on the mound you're crazy IMO. I would do it and just have Latos or Leake on standby in case of any injury flare ups. I think most Reds fans would lean Latos, but there is talk of him being held back for the Pirates series (Friday) which could make him unavailable. It seems weird to push Latos back from Weds, but they're adament about trying to win the division and frankly I think they believe they don't need him to sweep the Mets.
Pure speculation on my part, but they could pencil in Cueto for Sunday right now and then just bump him to Tuesday if the Cards clinch by then. This means passing Bronson on the rotation though which might be a stretch. So ya, total crapshoot.
Throwing out random guesses, I would assume it's down to Latos or Cueto. It's risky to pick Cueto I guess because he's coming off injury, but if you trust anyone more than him on the mound you're crazy IMO. I would do it and just have Latos or Leake on standby in case of any injury flare ups. I think most Reds fans would lean Latos, but there is talk of him being held back for the Pirates series (Friday) which could make him unavailable. It seems weird to push Latos back from Weds, but they're adament about trying to win the division and frankly I think they believe they don't need him to sweep the Mets.
Pure speculation on my part, but they could pencil in Cueto for Sunday right now and then just bump him to Tuesday if the Cards clinch by then. This means passing Bronson on the rotation though which might be a stretch. So ya, total crapshoot.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Nope because it looks like the Bucs are going to lose today. If that happens, the winner of the Reds/Bucs series gets top WC spot. Damn I have no faith in Liriano if that game is in Cincy.shuke said:
Losing series to the Cubs, Brewers, and Mets in the last 2 weeks of the season. Two of those AT HOME. Probably need to sweep the Bucs to get the top WC spot.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
We need 2 out of 3.shuke said:
Losing series to the Cubs, Brewers, and Mets in the last 2 weeks of the season. Two of those AT HOME. Probably need to sweep the Bucs to get the top WC spot.
Read earlier that Dusty made some ridiculous comment about not having a sense of urgency until you're facing the final game or something. Not sure if that is his philosophy or the players'. I can say, though, that I'm getting tired of watching BP dog it down to first base.
cheese
Footballguy
How can you even tell anymore with BP? It's either been 3 years since we've seen him "run" due to dogging it or he has aged very quickly and can't run anymore.We need 2 out of 3.shuke said:
Read earlier that Dusty made some ridiculous comment about not having a sense of urgency until you're facing the final game or something. Not sure if that is his philosophy or the players'. I can say, though, that I'm getting tired of watching BP dog it down to first base.
Regardless, it's all about Tuesday. I would like to have it at home so I can attend, but big picture that's the game that matters and I'm fine with managing this weekend accordingly.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Luckily the reds won't have to face very many gyro balls in the post season
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I would think so. Likewise, in that scenario I would hope the Pirates sit Cole. The Reds haven't faced him yet and I would prefer him over Liriano if the playoff game is in Cincy. However, I know Hurdle would never start him so at least he could come in if Liriano falls apart.
cheese
Footballguy
I think starting Cole would be a mistake. He might be better than Liriano in general, but the Reds 3 best hitters are all lefties. It should be the ideal matchup for Liriano.
On the Reds part, I don't think there is any chance Leake is a player. It's really only a question whether you would skip Cueto on Sunday or go ahead with Latos on Tuesday either way.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Did they move the game on Saturday from 4pm to 1pm?
My tickets say 4, yet everywhere I look now says 1.
My tickets say 4, yet everywhere I look now says 1.
cheese
Footballguy
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I'm not sure who the color guy is for this FOX telecast (I know his voice but the name is escaping me) but he decided to bring up steroids while Brandon Phillips tried to overcome the enormous lump he got in his shin from a foul ball. He made sure to mention, after the fact, that in no way are they saying BP did it, but that was poor. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN BROKEN LEG SYNDROME BEFORE STEROIDS OH BTW NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS GUY!!!
heckmanm
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
The good thing is whoever wins Tuesday night should be set up very nicely for the divisional round. I think they will be able to start their 1-3 starters for the first 3 games
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Regular lineup in, except BP resting.
I like it. Twitter blowing up about it. What do the rest of these guys need to rest from? They haven't been hitting and have tomorrow off anyway.
Also a lot of whining about Cueto decision for Tuesday. I love it.
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heckmanm
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm fine with Cueto - he's pitched really well since coming back.
Hey the good news about playing in Pittsburgh is they can't give up any runs in the top of the first, right?
Timmay
Footballguy
Im sure some people might think this is crazy but I would love Dusty to have set the lineup up like this.
Choo CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Heisey LF
Cozart SS
Mesaraco C
Pitcher
Votto is a singles hitter and an OBP machine, With Choo and Votto hitting 1-2 with their OBP that is going to give us more RBI opportunities (1st and 2nd in the majors in OBP), Phillips and Bruce have both proved they can drive in runs this year (each over 100 RBI's). I know Dusty likes to break the Left Handed hitters up, but Choo and Votto would be the same as Votto and Bruce like he has it now. I don't like Ludwick, I wish Dusty would bench him for either Heisey or Pail depending on the pitcher. And I wish Dusty would stick with one catcher over the other, let them get in a rhythm instead of constantly switching them in and out. I think the better offensive catcher right now is Mesaraco (offense is struggling). I'm sure it won't happen in the playoff wild card game, but would love to see it.
Choo CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Heisey LF
Cozart SS
Mesaraco C
Pitcher
Votto is a singles hitter and an OBP machine, With Choo and Votto hitting 1-2 with their OBP that is going to give us more RBI opportunities (1st and 2nd in the majors in OBP), Phillips and Bruce have both proved they can drive in runs this year (each over 100 RBI's). I know Dusty likes to break the Left Handed hitters up, but Choo and Votto would be the same as Votto and Bruce like he has it now. I don't like Ludwick, I wish Dusty would bench him for either Heisey or Pail depending on the pitcher. And I wish Dusty would stick with one catcher over the other, let them get in a rhythm instead of constantly switching them in and out. I think the better offensive catcher right now is Mesaraco (offense is struggling). I'm sure it won't happen in the playoff wild card game, but would love to see it.
