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How concerned are you about your job? (1 Viewer)

10 being very concerned, 1 not at all... If things don't improve within the next 3 months, how conce

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El Flopo's situation is going on all over the country and some people won't be able to afford necessary medications.  In 2009 a downtown Orlando employee who was let go, and couldn't afford his psych meds, shot up his office.

The indirect consequences of the economic shutdown can't be overlooked.  Financial strain is going to bring divorces, suicide, murders, crime, etc.

 
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Because #### me, that's why.

NYC insurance costs are ridiculous. We went a couple years getting insurance out of my inlaws address in VA...same company, same plan- a third the cost.
COBRA sucks everywhere.. here in Wisconsin, for just my wife and I, was close to $3,000 for one month. :angry:  

 I read an article mentioning that more people qualify for Medicare/Medicaid then they think. It can't hurt to give it a try. 

 
The indirect consequences of the economic shutdown can't be overlooked.  Financial strain is going to bring divorces, suicide, murders, crime, etc.
I am honestly shocked that I haven't been seeing a lot more stories on the news about the bolded. I keep expecting this to spike in a huge way due to stress, financial strain, etc. But it hasn't happened yet apparently.

 
COBRA sucks everywhere.. here in Wisconsin, for just my wife and I, was close to $3,000 for one month. :angry:  

 I read an article mentioning that more people qualify for Medicare/Medicaid then they think. It can't hurt to give it a try. 
$3000 seems like an awful lot for a couple.    I could be mistaken, but COBRA is just a law that mandates that your previous employer continue to offer you the same insurance you had with the big exception that you pay the full cost.  The reason the cost is high is b/c your cost of insurance is high.   You guys or at least Flops in this case might want to look into what insurance you had and see if there's some cheaper options that have a higher deductible or less doctor options for instance.

 
COBRA sucks everywhere.. here in Wisconsin, for just my wife and I, was close to $3,000 for one month. :angry:  

 I read an article mentioning that more people qualify for Medicare/Medicaid then they think. It can't hurt to give it a try. 
$3000 seems like an awful lot for a couple.    I could be mistaken, but COBRA is just a law that mandates that your previous employer continue to offer you the same insurance you had with the big exception that you pay the full cost.  The reason the cost is high is b/c your cost of insurance is high.   You guys or at least Flops in this case might want to look into what insurance you had and see if there's some cheaper options that have a higher deductible or less doctor options for instance.
that was a year ago, when I was laid off from a company I had been with for 11 years.. Biggest mistake was paying for it before I needed to and then getting a job offer 2 weeks later. :kicksrock:  

*knocks on Wood*  ....... so far, there have not been and layoffs here. But we all, including the CEO,  took a 20% salary reduction( for the 2nd quarter) and no 401(k) match( for the year).

 
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I am honestly shocked that I haven't been seeing a lot more stories on the news about the bolded. I keep expecting this to spike in a huge way due to stress, financial strain, etc. But it hasn't happened yet apparently.
We are still in the early stages of an economic downturn.  Fwiw, my real estate attorney neighbor says he expects mortgage defaults in about 6 months.  

 
I'm not too worried about losing my job. I was working from home 100% anyway and the rest of the company is now realizing that they can too. We do data for pharma companies and while I'm not on the projects, several of them now involve analyzing and providing reports for research on C-Virus. 

Meanwhile, my job is to just keep it business as usual for our regular clients. We've been able to do just that so far. 

 
Does anyone know if you file for partial unemployment will you be eligible for the additional $600?  My wife is down to working less than 20 hrs a week.

 
Does anyone know if you file for partial unemployment will you be eligible for the additional $600?  My wife is down to working less than 20 hrs a week.
This is the dumb thing about unemployment.  You just get the difference.  I'm not sure about the additional federal money and how that applies to part time.  But say your state gives 2k a month, and you are able to make $1900.  You basically worked all month for $100.

 
that was a year ago, when I was laid off from a company I had been with for 11 years.. Biggest mistake was paying for it before I needed to and then getting a job offer 2 weeks later. :kicksrock:  

*knocks on Wood*  ....... so far, there have not been and layoffs here. But we all, including the CEO,  took a 20% salary reduction( for the 2nd quarter) and no 401(k) match( for the year).
You have 60 days to make a decision on Cobra.  Take all your time and pay the premiums for the 2 months on day 60 or sooner of you need the insurance.  It's like a 60 day freeroll.

 
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just now heard from HR.

my insurance ends on April 16- the same day that they're considering my termination. Termination, not furlough. I'm hearing the same about others (as well as lack of response).

COBRA is $3,413 a month. 
Sorry to hear Floppo. Pardon my ignorance but what is COBRA?

 
The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA) is a health insurance program that allows eligible employees and their dependents the continued benefits of health insurance coverage when an employee loses their job or experiences a reduction of work hours

 
Hearing more of my white collar friends talk of potential furloughs and having to take pay cuts.

Regardless of whether or not the country is opened back up in May, I think we're screwed in the short term.  There's just no way that demand gets back to prior levels for at least a year.  I'm prepared for double digit unemployment for the next year at least.

I work in admin for a health system so I feel pretty ok.  But we will likely be furloughing non-clinical folks later this month since we've shut down all elective surgeries and all of our outpatient physician and ancillary services are basically shut down. 

Tough times ahead. 

 
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Hearing more of my white color friends talk of potential furloughs and having to take pay cuts.

Regardless of whether or not the country is opened back up in May, I think we're screwed in the short term.  There's just no way that demand gets back to prior levels for at least a year.  I'm prepared for double digit unemployment for the next year at least.

I work in admin for a health system so I feel pretty ok.  But we will likely be furloughing non-clinical folks later this month since we've shut down all elective surgeries and all of our outpatient physician and ancillary services are basically shut down. 

Tough times ahead. 
i hope you mean white collar, but this made me laugh for some reason.... :lol:

 
bcat01 said:
Does anyone know if you file for partial unemployment will you be eligible for the additional $600?  My wife is down to working less than 20 hrs a week.
i agree with punx phil’s answer, but i think UI is state to state.  with reduced hours it may not be worth it to file.  may wanna save your bullet for 0 hours.

 
Welp, my one employee just got (temporarily) laid off, along with a few others from around the office.  It's not the worst outcome - she gets to come back in July and keep health insurance until then.  In the mean time, she can apply for unemployment.  It's basically a government funded furlough.

What it means to me is that I have a lot more work to do now.  I'm so sick and tired of "do more with less".

 
Welp, my one employee just got (temporarily) laid off, along with a few others from around the office.  It's not the worst outcome - she gets to come back in July and keep health insurance until then.  In the mean time, she can apply for unemployment.  It's basically a government funded furlough.

What it means to me is that I have a lot more work to do now.  I'm so sick and tired of "do more with less".
Your company isn't topping up the furloughed person's salary?

 
just now heard from HR.

my insurance ends on April 16- the same day that they're considering my termination. Termination, not furlough. I'm hearing the same about others (as well as lack of response).

COBRA is $3,413 a month. 

so- with my $1,100/week of unemployment (and I'm grateful for the extra $600) I can cover COBRA. and maybe have enough to feed my family. as long as I don't pay rent, utilities, phone, life insurance or anything else.

why they didn't send this out with my termination, I don't ####### know. Have to check with the wife to make sure of when she has our new (ACA) insurance scheduled to start. we both- and everybody else I asked- assumed April had already been payed for, so would need new coverage starting May 1. this could have been answered with a simple ####### email instead of waiting most of a week later.
hate to hear this.

what do you do floppo?

 
bcat01 said:
Does anyone know if you file for partial unemployment will you be eligible for the additional $600?  My wife is down to working less than 20 hrs a week.
Are you asking about the stimulous payment from the governent?

 
There's a divide in my team today and it's causing tension on all our conference calls. I'm a Territory Sales Manager (basically sales rep) for a big consumer packaged goods company and obviously we can't visit grocery/retail stores now. We have been getting by with making phone calls and e-mails but we basically deal with 5 main "banners" (think Wal-mart, Whole Foods etc...) and 3 of the 5 have now asked us not to communicate by e-mail either - presumably every company is doing the same as us and they're getting inundated with useless sales-y emails that they have no interest in dealing with right now. 

That means of my 125 customers, I can realistically talk to about 40 right now. They've also instituted these expectations that we make a minimum of 12 calls per day, which are being logged in our iPads. We send in a daily report of what we do every day as well to "improve processes" and "add value" that gets sent up the chain to show what we're worth.

Reading between the lines, I think they know we're not talking to 60 people a week when we are only allowed to reach 40 customers - but they want those numbers in the system. In other words, they can't come right out and tell us to fake it, but if we fake it and keep those numbers in there, the higher ups will be happy and we can keep working from home as long as we add value in the daily report. 

8/10 people in my job in this region are on board with this, but the other two won't shut up and play the game and it's causing issues. The one guy brings up every time how we can't sell on the phone and we're not influencing anything and it's all pointless. Then about five of us all offer up suggestions for what we can still do. Another, our most "veteran" rep, is just such a keener that she will keep pushing for more and more to do and in doing so tells everyone that we don't have enough to fill our days. The majority of us are trying to do some work, take courses, calling each other daily etc... just not doing anything that draws a spotlight on to how many of the 8 hours we're actively working.

We have heard that our primary products are seeing big sales increases, so our side of the business (which is the larger part of the company) is booming but there is another side that is more food service oriented - with heavy focus on offices, pubs and bars, so that side is obviously taking a big hit.

Anyway, still working for now but I wish people would just recognize the situation, put their head down, be quiet, do what they're asked and keep the status quo. So, this is just my venting, good luck to others in this uncertainty.

 
Anyway, still working for now but I wish people would just recognize the situation, put their head down, be quiet, do what they're asked and keep the status quo. So, this is just my venting, good luck to others in this uncertainty.
A shame you can't simply tell them to ####, likely wouldn't end well for you to do so.

 
So a lot of guys at my company (electrical work) have been scrambling for work the past few days as service calls dry up and new construction waits on other trades to do stuff. Tomorrow is my turn, but I was told to call the owner and see if he has anything for me to do that day, which is possible. If I don't work, I'm lucky enough to have some cash saved, so my family and I have a temporary cushion. My wife is working as well, so we still have some income.

 
Anyway, still working for now but I wish people would just recognize the situation, put their head down, be quiet, do what they're asked and keep the status quo. So, this is just my venting, good luck to others in this uncertainty.
A shame you can't simply tell them to ####, likely wouldn't end well for you to do so.
I'm all for finding new ways to he as productive as possible when our normal systems and routines are fubar with the virus. As an employee, go ahead and do it and let management react and/or institute those new methods that work for everybody. But don't ##### about stuff not working, bringing your team down with you.

 
I'm all for finding new ways to he as productive as possible when our normal systems and routines are fubar with the virus. As an employee, go ahead and do it and let management react and/or institute those new methods that work for everybody. But don't ##### about stuff not working, bringing your team down with you.
Yeah, we're all happy to work and find ways to help out and fill the day, I just don't understand why they so badly want to call attention to how hard it is - it actually seems like the one guy wants to just get laid off and sit at home, in which case, go to the boss and say that, don't make it seem like it needs to happen for everyone. 

 
The additional $600 the federal government is adding to unemployment benefits.  I found out that you are eligible for it if you are eligible for at least $1 of unemployment.
Part of this seems to depend on which state you live in (the timing anyway).

Aha!  This covers the issue.  If you scroll down to the section labeled "How does the CARES Act create new unemployment insurance benefits?", you'll see that it includes those who are partially unemployed.  Sounds promising.

 
Hearing more of my white collar friends talk of potential furloughs and having to take pay cuts.

Regardless of whether or not the country is opened back up in May, I think we're screwed in the short term.  There's just no way that demand gets back to prior levels for at least a year.  I'm prepared for double digit unemployment for the next year at least.

I work in admin for a health system so I feel pretty ok.  But we will likely be furloughing non-clinical folks later this month since we've shut down all elective surgeries and all of our outpatient physician and ancillary services are basically shut down. 

Tough times ahead. 
The impact in healthcare is beyond anything I would have imagined. Some of these orgs are losing $100-$150 million a month.  Thin margins, limited # of days cash on hand = not good. The chain reaction that occurs with not doing profitable elective procedures (or anything invasive not related to COVID-19) is staggering.  There are entire economies around hips/knees, spine etc that are now on the bench. 

 
The impact in healthcare is beyond anything I would have imagined. Some of these orgs are losing $100-$150 million a month.  Thin margins, limited # of days cash on hand = not good. The chain reaction that occurs with not doing profitable elective procedures (or anything invasive not related to COVID-19) is staggering.  There are entire economies around hips/knees, spine etc that are now on the bench. 
Yep.  And the ramifications will be felt for years. 

 
The impact in healthcare is beyond anything I would have imagined. Some of these orgs are losing $100-$150 million a month.  Thin margins, limited # of days cash on hand = not good. The chain reaction that occurs with not doing profitable elective procedures (or anything invasive not related to COVID-19) is staggering.  There are entire economies around hips/knees, spine etc that are now on the bench. 
Crazy. This is something not discussed in most parts. Probably just a matter of priorities but it's definitely significant. 

My buddy the vet is still open but seeing one at a time for serious stuff, not the routine.

 
I'm an architect. Specialize in ultra high end interiors
I've been meaning to PM you but unfortunately I just heard my company is on a hiring freeze.  I work for a large engineering/construction management company and we utilize 1099 "contractors" to do inspections for progress monitoring; we have a lot of architects, ex-contractors, etc., that do this for us.  Unfortunately right now we are rolling with in-house inspectors to keep them busier.  But perhaps in the near future it would be something you'd be interested in as a side-gig.  Let me know if you want more info, and best of luck.

 
The impact in healthcare is beyond anything I would have imagined. Some of these orgs are losing $100-$150 million a month.  Thin margins, limited # of days cash on hand = not good. The chain reaction that occurs with not doing profitable elective procedures (or anything invasive not related to COVID-19) is staggering.  There are entire economies around hips/knees, spine etc that are now on the bench. 
This is a huge problem and hospitals are going to need a bailout.  

 
Hearing more of my white collar friends talk of potential furloughs and having to take pay cuts.

Regardless of whether or not the country is opened back up in May, I think we're screwed in the short term.  There's just no way that demand gets back to prior levels for at least a year.  I'm prepared for double digit unemployment for the next year at least.

I work in admin for a health system so I feel pretty ok.  But we will likely be furloughing non-clinical folks later this month since we've shut down all elective surgeries and all of our outpatient physician and ancillary services are basically shut down. 

Tough times ahead. 
In my parts, this is doubly brutal.

Every facility braced for a huge surge of COVID..... and pfffffft.  Nothing going on.

Hospitals are ghost towns.  People getting furloughed.  Docs closing clinics and depending on stimulus money to pay their staff.  

Killin me smalls.  Open our world back up.

 
Meanwhile Insurance companies don't seem to mind taking 100% of our premiums and keeping 99% while we can't do anything.

 
Welp, my one employee just got (temporarily) laid off, along with a few others from around the office.  It's not the worst outcome - she gets to come back in July and keep health insurance until then.  In the mean time, she can apply for unemployment.  It's basically a government funded furlough.

What it means to me is that I have a lot more work to do now.  I'm so sick and tired of "do more with less".
Turns out its more like 40% of our office that was let go today.  Nearly every department was hit, and hit hard.  Some folks will be invited back in July (although, who really knows), some turned to part time, and some permanently let go.  Hard to know about anyone, as we are mostly WFH.

Gonna be an interesting virtual happy hour tomorrow.

 
My company does several things, including car insurance. Since people are driving so little and accidents are way down, we are giving everyone 20% off their next two months premiums (as a starter). Basically giving back $520M in premiums. Probably small potatoes in the big scheme of things, but I was glad to see us do it, trying to help at least a little bit.

 
In other words, they can't come right out and tell us to fake it, but if we fake it and keep those numbers in there, the higher ups will be happy and we can keep working from home as long as we add value in the daily report.
Our higher-ups have told several of us directly to "fake it."  We have a negotiated set-rate for the process we complete so we are not screwing anyone over.  Sometimes that process takes a few hours and our profit is higher.  Sometimes that process takes 20 hours and we take it in the shorts.  Right now we are working on a bunch of projects that would be in the 'a few hours" category, but have been told to spread the work thin to keep everyone somewhat busy and employed.  Today I spread a half day of work into a full day.  Upper management/owners are fully aware that we just won't have as much profit as we normally would.

We have 1 guy that just doesn't get the concept.  He was in the field with me last week an acted like it was an insult when our boss told us to take our time.  The truth is he will be one of the first to go if we make cuts, but I didn't have the heart to tell him.  Now this week in the office he is acting the same way even after the game plan was explained again by one of his superiors.  I appreciate the spirit under normal circumstances, but these are not normal circumstances.

We did have one clerical worker take voluntary furlough.  She has an elementary school child at home and with the extra benefits will take home close to what she is now.  There has been some brief talk about going to 32 hours/week, but we aren't at that point yet.

I'm one of those people that always maxes out their available PTO.  I had days off scheduled this week and next for a trip that got cancelled, but decided it was a good time to be off even with no plans.

 
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