How early do you draft Larry Johnson (1 Viewer)

[Gamblor]

How does that quote go again? The one about two people arguing on the internet...

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

LOL @ linking this in a sig.

 

[DoctorDetroit]

Traded Duce Staley and Eddie Kennison for him when it seemed Priest was going to get the majority of the carries. Guy really wanted Duce for some reason and I would have taken Benson, but the owner insisted I take LJ. I didn't think it would work out this well but I traded for him because he has a low salary in a keeper league. I'm lovin' it!

 

[JimOtto#2]

I have 3 issues with this load that BOY is putting out here

PB then walks out of the bar. PB & TF don't see each other anywhere for another 2 months.

TF shows up on PB's 2 months later after Holmes gets hurt and is put on IR.

First, the problem with this statement is that you don’t leave this bar. You are in this bar every single day like I am. To try to push that you never went back into the thread is a little hard to believe. Second, BOY accepted the bet in his last post with the rules I stipulated, so I don’t want to hear this garbage about the bet not being accepted. You accepted the bet and less than an hour later I agreed.

TF: (Using a lot of langauage that I can't post here) Hey, man, 40 minutes after you walked out of the bar I took your bet. You owe me $100. Pay up. (Significant more language that I can't post here).

The he shows up another 6 times that day on PB's door using the same or worse language & name calling, expecting to be paid $100.

Third, not in my PM’s nor in this thread did I ever use any foul language. The digs may have been close to home, but in now way did I use any language that can’t be posted here. I took shots, but I didn’t take any profane shots. As honorable and upstanding as BOY is, I guess lying and casting aspersions about someone’s integrity are not at all beneath him. I love how no one, not a single person, has come on here and said that you are justified, BOY. They have a term for people who think the rest of the world is nuts and that s/he is the only sane one – Paranoid Schizophrenia. But you’re right, we both know the truth as does the rest of the board…..

I think if you two stopped hanging out in bars so often you'd both be a lot happier.

 

[godeepthreatz1]

1st overall in 2006 no doubt

 

[wannabee]

This thread also is interesting:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=larry++johnson

Some were right on

 

[Otis]

In a deep dynasty draft a couple months ago I took him in the 2nd.

There is no doubt in my mind that LJ will see time this year and will be the full-time starter there soon. When that happens, I also have no doubt he's an instant top-3 fantasy back.

Some people laughed at the pick, but really I preferred his upside to that of the guys on the board (Tiki, Curtis, Dunn, etc.). I probably should have waited a round for value reasons, although at least one other owner who picked after me in the 2nd admitted he was targeting him there and would have taken him anyway, so who knows.

I may be in the minority, and sure, I maybe could have had Tiki AND LJ, but I simply did not want to risk losing out on him. I value him that highly.

This is a really smart man.

 

[[icon]]

LJ love is ridiculous on these boards. Nah already debated this plenty.

Someone bump these threads in december please, TIA

Bump

 

[[icon]]

Sig. bets are useless unless the loser Ponies Up and does it. Are you sure you didn't accept the bet Pony?

I'll say this though, sig. bets are usually more effective when before the bet happens, the sig. has been created.

Yeah, I'm sure.You've seen me eat crow many times before, and I have no problem taking my medicine when I'm wrong. The Fanatic had plenty of opportunity to take my offered bet & decided not to until after we had clearly ceased the discussion. I wasn't anywhere around when he made his "acceptance".

I heard no word from him outside of this thread until he decided to PM me relentlessly yesterday throwing numerous personal slurs around. I don't expect any less from him. If I had made the bet, I'd accept the loss - shoot, I might even cave on this one even though no bet was made if he'd act like a decent human being just for the fun of it - but I'm not going to give in when no bet was made given the number & vitriol of his PMs to me. Reading his PMs, I'd have expected that he's a middle school kid with anger management issues who isn't being monitored in computer class.

First of all, I sent three PM's to this guy. The first one was a link to this thread asking him how he liked his crow. Full of Vitrol. He responded by saying that he had big brass pair of something or other and called me a wuss for not accepting the sig bet. But I'm being the jerk?!?!?! It was on at that point. I responded with a quote from one of my posts that showed clearly where I accepted the bet and mocked his reading comprehension abilities as well as the way in which he was handling the loss. The last one I sent was a PM stating that if he can't change his sig, I'll change mine and show the FBG board what kind of man Pony Boy really as well as to point out that I called him a punchline on these boards early onin this thread and how much I appreciate him proving the point. 3 PM's is incessant? Not only do you need to work on your reading comprehension, but your vocabulary is a little soft too...

And I love the line about not being anywhere near the thread when I accepted the bet. Pony Boy posted this at 7:39 on July 11th:

Had no clue, did you? Do everyone here a favor. Stop puffing out your chest & throwing around illusions about your internal fortitude as compared to everyone else until you learn a little more about the game...

I'd take your bet - despite your whining - without the points for receptions, but based upon the way you have acted in this thread, I have very little doubt you wouldn't honor it.

Later, my friend.

Again, I'm the jerk here? Love the weak attempts at a dig on me.Not more than 40 minutes later at 8:20 that same day I posted this:

Actually, I'll still take your bet. I'm that confident that he won't do all that well this year that I will spot you the extra place by giving you the .5/reception. It's totally up to you. I can deal with either.

Long gone? 40 minutes? Hmmmmm I'm not buying it.And I'm pretty sure you accepted the bet in the post before mine. But I love the ploy. Throw down a bet, and when it's accepted you never post in the thread again and feign ignorance of the bet being accepted. Bravo

I guess you really live up to your name, at least the second half of it.

Wow... Pony Boy really is a bigtime Welsher...Just lost all respect I had for the kid

What kind of pansy welshes on a sig bet?

 

[0tis.]

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LJ love is ridiculous on these boards. Nah already debated this plenty.

Someone bump these threads in december please, TIA

Bump

 

[Bri]

,Dec 16 2005, 10:15 AM]

LJ love is ridiculous on these boards. Nah already debated this plenty.

Someone bump these threads in december please, TIA

Bump

I still don't agree on the earlier than fifth round pick stuff. Ya got 6 (excellent) starts out of him, I hear that but I'd only have a few players and refuse to draft a backup that early.He's a tricky one, no doubt, to give a true value(round) to on draft day. You're sitting pretty now but were you from weeks 1 thru 9? If you drafted 2 RBs early and they stayed healthy, is one considerred a wasted pick now? It's very tricky with him

Edit to add, I strongly disagree on the 2nd round pick(not dynasty) stuff. It's just too early

 

[gadkins]

I voted for 1st rd. In reality I drafted Priest and Larry Fitz in the 5th. I missed out on LJ but traded Willie Parker and Ship for LJ before the first week of the season.

 

[Raiders Fan]

Love the FBGs that can predict season-ending injuries.

I didn't predict a season ending injury. I predicted that age would catch up to him. Could a younger Priest have come back late in the season? I'm not sure. But younger players heal faster. A 24 y.o. RB might bounce back after a single game while a 32 RB may take 3 games to recover. Priest's best days are behind him, and those that place him in the preseason top 5 are fools. Funny about you taking this shot, oh so subtely, yet you didn't bother to send me a PM taking me up in the sig bet.....Nice waffle there....

I would do a sig bet that Priest will finish with top 7 RB numbers. Send me a fax if you're interested.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Can Pony Boy and The Fanatic just sleep with each other and get it over with?

 

[MacArtist]

I drafted him in the 4th round, knowing Priest would go down. Thanks to LJ, all I have to do is win one more game and I'll be in first place.Thanks, LJ!

 

[Snotbubbles]

I still don't agree on the earlier than fifth round pick stuff. Ya got 6 (excellent) starts out of him, I hear that but I'd only have a few players and refuse to draft a backup that early.He's a tricky one, no doubt, to give a true value(round) to on draft day. You're sitting pretty now but were you from weeks 1 thru 9? If you drafted 2 RBs early and they stayed healthy, is one considerred a wasted pick now? It's very tricky with himEdit to add, I strongly disagree on the 2nd round pick(not dynasty) stuff. It's just too early

Actually he did pretty well week 1. He had 121 yds and 2 TDs. Good for the #2 RB in my league. Week 2 he had 41 yds and 1 TD, good for #15 RB in my league and Week 7 he had 119 yds and a TD good for #8 RB. Week 9 he was the #3 RB.Week 10 he was the #9 RB.Week 11 he was the #1 RB.Week 12 he was the #4 RB.Week 13 he was the #2 RB.Week 14 he was the #1 RB.Week 15 he was the #2 RB.7 out of 15 weeks he finished in the top 5 at his position. 9 out of 15 weeks in the top 10. Here goes my third and fourth round of my draft.3.01 Marvin Harrison WR Indianapolis Colts 3.02 Torry Holt WR St. Louis Rams 3.03 Donovan McNabb QB Philadelphia Eagles 3.04 Joe Horn WR New Orleans Saints 3.05 Antonio Gates TE San Diego Chargers 3.06 Terrell Owens WR Philadelphia Eagles 3.07 Andre Johnson WR Houston Texans 3.08 Chris Brown RB Tennessee Titans 3.09 Tony Gonzalez TE Kansas City Chiefs 3.10 Reggie Wayne WR Indianapolis Colts 3.11 Warrick Dunn RB Atlanta Falcons 3.12 Javon Walker WR Green Bay Packers 4.01 Fred Taylor RB Jacksonville Jaguars 4.02 Nate Burleson WR Minnesota Vikings 4.03 De'shaun Foster RB Carolina Panthers 4.04 Darrell Jackson WR Seattle Seahawks 4.05 Michael Clayton WR Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4.06 Anquan Boldin WR Arizona Cardinals 4.07 Roy Williams WR Detroit Lions 4.08 Jason Witten TE Dallas Cowboys 4.09 Larry Fitzgerald WR Arizona Cardinals 4.10 Marc Bulger QB St. Louis Rams 4.11 Steve Smith WR Carolina Panthers 4.12 Michael Bennett RB Minnesota VikingsWhich one of those players was worth drafting before LJ?

 

[Bri]

as I said, he's tricky. Yep he did well in week 1 but did ya start him with Priest around? If not it really doesn't matter how well he did. Then there's week 2, did ya start him? AND Did he burn ya week 3 because you did start him and he put up a dud. Once Priest was hurt, sure he's a great back.This season has changed my opinion of him BUT I still can't put my finger on where he should be drafted. He may be like Peyton to me in that yep he's a good pick in that round but just not for me. I'd rather fill my starters at that point. So I don't think it's a right/wrong thing, that early, he's just not for me.Next year if Priest is in a lesser role as is rumorred well then this won't happen again.

 

[Bri]

3.01 Marvin Harrison WR Indianapolis Colts

3.02 Torry Holt WR St. Louis Rams

3.03 Donovan McNabb QB Philadelphia Eagles

3.04 Joe Horn WR New Orleans Saints

3.05 Antonio Gates TE San Diego Chargers

3.06 Terrell Owens WR Philadelphia Eagles

3.07 Andre Johnson WR Houston Texans

3.08 Chris Brown RB Tennessee Titans

3.09 Tony Gonzalez TE Kansas City Chiefs

3.10 Reggie Wayne WR Indianapolis Colts

3.11 Warrick Dunn RB Atlanta Falcons

3.12 Javon Walker WR Green Bay Packers

4.01 Fred Taylor RB Jacksonville Jaguars

4.02 Nate Burleson WR Minnesota Vikings

4.03 De'shaun Foster RB Carolina Panthers

4.04 Darrell Jackson WR Seattle Seahawks

4.05 Michael Clayton WR Tampa Bay Buccaneers

4.06 Anquan Boldin WR Arizona Cardinals

4.07 Roy Williams WR Detroit Lions

4.08 Jason Witten TE Dallas Cowboys

4.09 Larry Fitzgerald WR Arizona Cardinals

4.10 Marc Bulger QB St. Louis Rams

4.11 Steve Smith WR Carolina Panthers

4.12 Michael Bennett RB Minnesota Vikings

Which one of those players was worth drafting before LJ?

Out of this group, I drafted Javon(not a fair comparison) Holt and Fitz. Yes I was WR heavy this year.I'd be interested to know what any of you think in comparing them. Was Holt or Fitz a better pick than LJ or not?

 

[stevec]

7 out of 15 weeks he finished in the top 5 at his position. 9 out of 15 weeks in the top 10. Here goes my third and fourth round of my draft.

3.01 Marvin Harrison WR Indianapolis Colts

3.02 Torry Holt WR St. Louis Rams

3.05 Antonio Gates TE San Diego Chargers

4.06 Anquan Boldin WR Arizona Cardinals

4.09 Larry Fitzgerald WR Arizona Cardinals

4.11 Steve Smith WR Carolina Panthers

Which one of those players was worth drafting before LJ?

Based on player performance this season, I really have no problem with any of these guys I left listed above going in front of him.In TE-required leagues, he's actually less valuable than Gates. He's a hair behind Smith, who's the #1 WR, and the other WR are reaonably close in value to him.

Geting LJ late has been like getting an extra early pick - and when you hit on most of your early picks, you're golden.

 

[Punk]

LOL @ all the arguing over a "sig bet"...one of the gayest things in message board history.Too bad Sgt Ryan isn't around...

 

[3MTA3]

bump?

 

[Sinrman]

Holy Bumps, Batman!

 

[mbuehner]

How soon is now? HAH.

 

[Buttmonkey]

Drafted LJ in 6th last year (dynasty) and won the league behind his awesome playoff games. In another league I also drafted 10th over (we keep 7 keepers, 2 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 1 QB, 1 K, 1 DEF). I had won the year before and had the last pick in the first round. Because we have to start two WRs and two RBs, most people drafted to fill out their lineup. I sacrificed getting Reggie Wayne as my second receiver to grab LJ. The Priest owner picked sixth overall and drafted a WR. When I drafted LJ he was freaking mad. Asked me "wtf are you doing?" I said "you had your chance"

 

[Otis]

In a deep dynasty draft a couple months ago I took him in the 2nd.

There is no doubt in my mind that LJ will see time this year and will be the full-time starter there soon. When that happens, I also have no doubt he's an instant top-3 fantasy back.

Some people laughed at the pick, but really I preferred his upside to that of the guys on the board (Tiki, Curtis, Dunn, etc.). I probably should have waited a round for value reasons, although at least one other owner who picked after me in the 2nd admitted he was targeting him there and would have taken him anyway, so who knows.

I may be in the minority, and sure, I maybe could have had Tiki AND LJ, but I simply did not want to risk losing out on him. I value him that highly.

This guy is an effing fantasy genius.

 

[Bri]

In a deep dynasty draft a couple months ago I took him in the 2nd. 

There is no doubt in my mind that LJ will see time this year and will be the full-time starter there soon.  When that happens, I also have no doubt he's an instant top-3 fantasy back. 

Some people laughed at the pick, but really I preferred his upside to that of the guys on the board (Tiki, Curtis, Dunn, etc.).  I probably should have waited a round for value reasons, although at least one other owner who picked after me in the 2nd admitted he was targeting him there and would have taken him anyway, so who knows.

I may be in the minority, and sure, I maybe could have had Tiki AND LJ, but I simply did not want to risk losing out on him.  I value him that highly.

This guy is an effing fantasy genius.

good post til ya got to Tiki