How many games will Suh be suspended? (2 Viewers)

[jon_mx]

People are actually sticking up for this piece of #### thug?

Football's a violent game and people lose their cool. He didn't blow up a defenseless player subjecting him to a career ending blow. He stomped a guy and got ejected for it. People who throw punches get ejected, but that's it. Same should hold true here. I do think they'll fine him more b/c of thanksgiving.exposure etc.

So you're fine with players stomping on each other after every play? Or should they limit each player to say, 2 stomps per half? Nah, its a violent game. Unlimited stomps for everyone!

No one was stomped on. HTH.

Not sure you watched the same game as the rest of us.Yes...Evan Dietrich Smith was stomped on his arm...or are you going to argue it being a kick is not as bad?

I am saying Suh was being held by the other GB guy, and barely touched Evan, thus there was no stomp. It is obvious the impact was very minimal or Evan would have reacted. I am also saying the intent is not absolutely certain. You can argue that he attempted to stomp, but it is possible he was just kicking his leg trying to avoid Evan from grabbing it. Everyone seems to be in Suh's head and believes it was purely intentional, but I see the guy touching Suh and Suh possibly responding to that. Yes, the video looks bad, but it is not conclusively bad. The pushing the head against the ground is the worse part, but they were going at it pretty heavy. This is not entirely one-sided. The guy is an offensive lineman and was being very aggressive against Suh even after they went to the ground.

 

[Wadsworth]

If NFL Films had put a camera isolated on Suh from his first play in the NFL until yesterdays games, when reviewing the films do you think you would find more penalties committed by Suh or by opposing players aggainst Suh?

 

[sho nuff]

I am saying Suh was being held by the other GB guy, and barely touched Evan, thus there was no stomp. It is obvious the impact was very minimal or Evan would have reacted. I am also saying the intent is not absolutely certain. You can argue that he attempted to stomp, but it is possible he was just kicking his leg trying to avoid Evan from grabbing it. Everyone seems to be in Suh's head and believes it was purely intentional, but I see the guy touching Suh and Suh possibly responding to that. Yes, the video looks bad, but it is not conclusively bad. The pushing the head against the ground is the worse part, but they were going at it pretty heavy. This is not entirely one-sided. The guy is an offensive lineman and was being very aggressive against Suh even after they went to the ground.

You are blind.There was a stomp...he hit the guy's arm with decent force after pushing his head into the turf.Evan did react...but as I said, you are blind.The intent is certain to all but a few Lions fans still trying to defend him.I can argue he was attempting to stomp because his leg was already free when he brought it back down at a guy.It was obvious.It is very conclusively bad...and no, the only one showing aggression when they went to the ground was Suh....probably pissed he was just handled by a backup guard.It was very one sided...you just can't admit it.

 

[sho nuff]

If NFL Films had put a camera isolated on Suh from his first play in the NFL until yesterdays games, when reviewing the films do you think you would find more penalties committed by Suh or by opposing players aggainst Suh?

Pretty much irrelevant and you could say that about any Dlineman as they are likely held quite often.

 

[jon_mx]

I am saying Suh was being held by the other GB guy, and barely touched Evan, thus there was no stomp. It is obvious the impact was very minimal or Evan would have reacted. I am also saying the intent is not absolutely certain. You can argue that he attempted to stomp, but it is possible he was just kicking his leg trying to avoid Evan from grabbing it. Everyone seems to be in Suh's head and believes it was purely intentional, but I see the guy touching Suh and Suh possibly responding to that. Yes, the video looks bad, but it is not conclusively bad. The pushing the head against the ground is the worse part, but they were going at it pretty heavy. This is not entirely one-sided. The guy is an offensive lineman and was being very aggressive against Suh even after they went to the ground.

You are blind.There was a stomp...he hit the guy's arm with decent force after pushing his head into the turf.

Evan did react...but as I said, you are blind.

The intent is certain to all but a few Lions fans still trying to defend him.

I can argue he was attempting to stomp because his leg was already free when he brought it back down at a guy.

It was obvious.

It is very conclusively bad...and no, the only one showing aggression when they went to the ground was Suh....probably pissed he was just handled by a backup guard.

It was very one sided...you just can't admit it.

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

 

[Sabertooth]

People are actually sticking up for this piece of #### thug?

Football's a violent game and people lose their cool. He didn't blow up a defenseless player subjecting him to a career ending blow. He stomped a guy and got ejected for it. People who throw punches get ejected, but that's it. Same should hold true here. I do think they'll fine him more b/c of thanksgiving.exposure etc.

So you're fine with players stomping on each other after every play? Or should they limit each player to say, 2 stomps per half? Nah, its a violent game. Unlimited stomps for everyone!

No one was stomped on. HTH.

 

[Wadsworth]

I am saying Suh was being held by the other GB guy, and barely touched Evan, thus there was no stomp. It is obvious the impact was very minimal or Evan would have reacted. I am also saying the intent is not absolutely certain. You can argue that he attempted to stomp, but it is possible he was just kicking his leg trying to avoid Evan from grabbing it. Everyone seems to be in Suh's head and believes it was purely intentional, but I see the guy touching Suh and Suh possibly responding to that. Yes, the video looks bad, but it is not conclusively bad. The pushing the head against the ground is the worse part, but they were going at it pretty heavy. This is not entirely one-sided. The guy is an offensive lineman and was being very aggressive against Suh even after they went to the ground.

You are blind.There was a stomp...he hit the guy's arm with decent force after pushing his head into the turf.

Evan did react...but as I said, you are blind.

The intent is certain to all but a few Lions fans still trying to defend him.

I can argue he was attempting to stomp because his leg was already free when he brought it back down at a guy.

It was obvious.

It is very conclusively bad...and no, the only one showing aggression when they went to the ground was Suh....probably pissed he was just handled by a backup guard.

It was very one sided...you just can't admit it.

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

That really doesn't mean anything. In the video I posted earlier of Brown punching Sessions, Sessions didn't react either. Football players are tough and get hit far worse in legal plays than they do in almost any personal foul.

 

[mad sweeney]

Wonder if Pereira wrote about the horrible job the officiating crew did yesterday. Doubtful.

Except for the atrociously bad roughing the QB call on Rodgers against the Lions, there weren't any other egregiously bad calls that I can remember. It is not the fault of the refs that the Lions are an undisciplined bunch who commit far too many penalties.

Is there a set time the NFL hands out fines/suspensions?

My guess is that Goodell will wait till all of week 12's games are over, but you never know.

There were some pretty bad calls in the game. Two PI calls I believe that were ridiculous. A chop block that was bad. More than the PI, which was made worse by the fact that GB had a later hit the drive before that wasnt flagged. THe refs definitely dropped the ball on this game.

Few things...neither the KVB or Matthews hit should have been flagged.I don't think KVB's hit was flagged for late (and they missed the late hit against detroit a play or two later that was worse as far as lateness to both of those mentioned)KVB's hit, IMO was flagged for the way his head was leading a bit (again, I don't think it should have been flagged) and that Rodgers head snapped back. I think that appearance is what the refs thought was helmet to helmet or roughing however you want to call it. I don't think it was about being late.Im assuming you mean the PI in the endzone on Jennings. Can't pull a guy's jersey away from his body twice...once with the ball in the air. It will get called every time.

I wasn't talking about the end zone one. It was in the 1st quarter, but I could be combining two games in my memory. I remember a slew of bad calls early though.

 

[sho nuff]

I am saying Suh was being held by the other GB guy, and barely touched Evan, thus there was no stomp. It is obvious the impact was very minimal or Evan would have reacted. I am also saying the intent is not absolutely certain. You can argue that he attempted to stomp, but it is possible he was just kicking his leg trying to avoid Evan from grabbing it. Everyone seems to be in Suh's head and believes it was purely intentional, but I see the guy touching Suh and Suh possibly responding to that. Yes, the video looks bad, but it is not conclusively bad. The pushing the head against the ground is the worse part, but they were going at it pretty heavy. This is not entirely one-sided. The guy is an offensive lineman and was being very aggressive against Suh even after they went to the ground.

You are blind.There was a stomp...he hit the guy's arm with decent force after pushing his head into the turf.

Evan did react...but as I said, you are blind.

The intent is certain to all but a few Lions fans still trying to defend him.

I can argue he was attempting to stomp because his leg was already free when he brought it back down at a guy.

It was obvious.

It is very conclusively bad...and no, the only one showing aggression when they went to the ground was Suh....probably pissed he was just handled by a backup guard.

It was very one sided...you just can't admit it.

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

 

[jon_mx]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

 

[CapnJB]

It was clearly a dance fight.

 

[Crusaderfan]

I've always liked the Lions since they were my late father's team. Listen to Schwartz on NFL radio many times and think he seems like a pretty good guy. Picked them to beat the Packers yesterday. Thought the KVB call was total crap, etc..

But I am amazed at some people on here trying to justify Suh's actions yesterday. To me, the guy obviously needs help. I've heard him interviewed and he seems intelligent and well spoken but man - put a helmet on him and he turns into a knucklehead. If I was a Detroit fan, I'd be more interested in getting his anger management issues corrected than I would be trying to defend him and looking pretty silly in the process. He cost the Lions at least 4 pts yesterday by his actions. He may have cost them even more in momentum. They made a big 3rd down stop and next thing you know - it's a 1st down near their goal line.

Bill Cowher said yesterday - this is an issue that Schwartz should be dealing with. That he should be the one telling Suh that is not the way I want football to be played. But I'm starting to wonder if Schwartz might have his own issues - to many things questionable are starting to pile up on the Lions side of the ledger - Schwartz/Harbaugh issue, Lions/Bears skirmish the previous week and Suh's continual accumulation of issues. There is a lot of smoke around this team right now - it can't always be the other guys fault when things keep happening.

 

[BassNBrew]

According to JonMX, if someone takes a shot at the president and misses they really don't deserve any punishment since theydidn't connect. I guess it would be ok to drive drunk and end up in a ditch without any repercussions since no one was hurt.

 

[sho nuff]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

 

[BassNBrew]

According to JonMX, if someone takes a shot at the president and misses they really don't deserve any punishment since theydidn't connect. I guess it would be ok to drive drunk and end up in a ditch without any repercussions since no one was hurt.

 

[identikit]

I've always liked the Lions since they were my late father's team. Listen to Schwartz on NFL radio many times and think he seems like a pretty good guy. Picked them to beat the Packers yesterday. Thought the KVB call was total crap, etc..

But I am amazed at some people on here trying to justify Suh's actions yesterday. To me, the guy obviously needs help. I've heard him interviewed and he seems intelligent and well spoken but man - put a helmet on him and he turns into a knucklehead. If I was a Detroit fan, I'd be more interested in getting his anger management issues corrected than I would be trying to defend him and looking pretty silly in the process. He cost the Lions at least 4 pts yesterday by his actions. He may have cost them even more in momentum. They made a big 3rd down stop and next thing you know - it's a 1st down near their goal line.

Bill Cowher said yesterday - this is an issue that Schwartz should be dealing with. That he should be the one telling Suh that is not the way I want football to be played. But I'm starting to wonder if Schwartz might have his own issues - to many things questionable are starting to pile up on the Lions side of the ledger - Schwartz/Harbaugh issue, Lions/Bears skirmish the previous week and Suh's continual accumulation of issues. There is a lot of smoke around this team right now - it can't always be the other guys fault when things keep happening.

Very good posting.Particularly the bolded. Have been wondering myself about Schwartz' leadership (or the lack thereof).

 

[BassNBrew]

1 game for intent.

1 game for the stupid presser.

4 games for either believing in god or for using god as your witness depend on what you believe.

2 games for not knowing god wouldn't be caught dead in Detriot and is taking a long holiday weeknd in San Diego with his son.

 

[jon_mx]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

Because he did not react. Thanks for playing.

 

[PolishNorbi]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

Because he did not react. Thanks for playing.

JonMX is right. I think I said it earlier in the thread, I had a player once step on my hand with cleats on. Guy broke my hand, and I had a protective glove on already. Doctor said without the glove, my finger would have been shattered. You think someone with Suh's power, intentionally stomping on someone wouldn't cause damage? If Suh actually stomped on him, the guy would be seriously bruised, most likely bleeding, and a good chance of a broken bone.

 

[PolishNorbi]

According to JonMX, if someone takes a shot at the president and misses they really don't deserve any punishment since theydidn't connect. I guess it would be ok to drive drunk and end up in a ditch without any repercussions since no one was hurt.

I think you are missing the point. So should everyone who is driving drunk be charged with attempted murder with a deadly weapon and serve 25 years in jail?1 game suspension is fine. But anything similar to AH suspension would be outrageous. Especially after a player kick another player in the nuts and got nothing.

 

[jon_mx]

According to JonMX, if someone takes a shot at the president and misses they really don't deserve any punishment since theydidn't connect. I guess it would be ok to drive drunk and end up in a ditch without any repercussions since no one was hurt.

There is a difference between a guy who connects and continues the attack and a guy who misses and walks away. Many on this thread have equated this to Haynesworth, when it does not even belong in the same universe as. Besides if you look at the picture posted above, it was at that point Suh's foot appeared to get stuck or held and Suh reacts and kicks. Suh is overly aggressive and it needs to be brought under control, I am just not buying he is this thug out to hurt someone. He comes across as too intelligent and out of character with his demeanor.

 

[mad sweeney]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

Because he did not react. Thanks for playing.

JonMX is right. I think I said it earlier in the thread, I had a player once step on my hand with cleats on. Guy broke my hand, and I had a protective glove on already. Doctor said without the glove, my finger would have been shattered. You think someone with Suh's power, intentionally stomping on someone wouldn't cause damage? If Suh actually stomped on him, the guy would be seriously bruised, most likely bleeding, and a good chance of a broken bone.

Unless, of course, he didn't connect very well. Like yesterday. Doesn't mean it isn't a stomp.

 

[jon_mx]

I've always liked the Lions since they were my late father's team. Listen to Schwartz on NFL radio many times and think he seems like a pretty good guy. Picked them to beat the Packers yesterday. Thought the KVB call was total crap, etc..

But I am amazed at some people on here trying to justify Suh's actions yesterday. To me, the guy obviously needs help. I've heard him interviewed and he seems intelligent and well spoken but man - put a helmet on him and he turns into a knucklehead. If I was a Detroit fan, I'd be more interested in getting his anger management issues corrected than I would be trying to defend him and looking pretty silly in the process. He cost the Lions at least 4 pts yesterday by his actions. He may have cost them even more in momentum. They made a big 3rd down stop and next thing you know - it's a 1st down near their goal line.

Bill Cowher said yesterday - this is an issue that Schwartz should be dealing with. That he should be the one telling Suh that is not the way I want football to be played. But I'm starting to wonder if Schwartz might have his own issues - to many things questionable are starting to pile up on the Lions side of the ledger - Schwartz/Harbaugh issue, Lions/Bears skirmish the previous week and Suh's continual accumulation of issues. There is a lot of smoke around this team right now - it can't always be the other guys fault when things keep happening.

Very good posting.Particularly the bolded. Have been wondering myself about Schwartz' leadership (or the lack thereof).

I agree with the Schwartz angle. Suh is not an out of control mad man, he is just a player who needs to check his aggression a bit. Schwartz is not instilling enough discipline, but this event is being blown extremely out of proportion.

 

[jon_mx]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

Because he did not react. Thanks for playing.

JonMX is right. I think I said it earlier in the thread, I had a player once step on my hand with cleats on. Guy broke my hand, and I had a protective glove on already. Doctor said without the glove, my finger would have been shattered. You think someone with Suh's power, intentionally stomping on someone wouldn't cause damage? If Suh actually stomped on him, the guy would be seriously bruised, most likely bleeding, and a good chance of a broken bone.

Unless, of course, he didn't connect very well. Like yesterday. Doesn't mean it isn't a stomp.

In that case it would be an attempted stomp. Stomp implies a heavy level of violence and pain being inflicted. There was none.

 

[Man In The Box]

Jon has quite a few hooked still. Well done. :

 

[mad sweeney]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

Because he did not react. Thanks for playing.

JonMX is right. I think I said it earlier in the thread, I had a player once step on my hand with cleats on. Guy broke my hand, and I had a protective glove on already. Doctor said without the glove, my finger would have been shattered. You think someone with Suh's power, intentionally stomping on someone wouldn't cause damage? If Suh actually stomped on him, the guy would be seriously bruised, most likely bleeding, and a good chance of a broken bone.

Unless, of course, he didn't connect very well. Like yesterday. Doesn't mean it isn't a stomp.

In that case it would be an attempted stomp. Stomp implies a heavy level of violence and pain being inflicted. There was none.

There is no quantification of violence. Use a stomping motion and connect, it's a stomp. So simple even you should be able to figure it out.

 

[squistion]

Unless, of course, he didn't connect very well. Like yesterday. Doesn't mean it isn't a stomp.

In that case it would be an attempted stomp. Stomp implies a heavy level of violence and pain being inflicted. There was none.

There is no quantification of violence. Use a stomping motion and connect, it's a stomp. So simple even you should be able to figure it out.

Hey we are talking about jon here, you expect someone who denies there is such a thing as global warming/climate change, constantly rants about how Sharia law is taking over and how white male Christians are a persecuted minority to figure it out?

 

[Da Guru]

Look for the Detroit Lions to be on Prime-Time 3-4 times next season. This a good for the NFL..the new "Bad Boys"

 

[mad sweeney]

Unless, of course, he didn't connect very well. Like yesterday. Doesn't mean it isn't a stomp.

In that case it would be an attempted stomp. Stomp implies a heavy level of violence and pain being inflicted. There was none.

There is no quantification of violence. Use a stomping motion and connect, it's a stomp. So simple even you should be able to figure it out.

Hey we are talking about jon here, you expect someone who denies there is such a thing as global warming/climate change, constantly rants about how Sharia law is taking over and how white male Christians are a persecuted minority to figure it out?

Of course not.

 

[QuizGuy66]

He was just doing a scene from River Dance. Happens all the time after a sack.

-QG

 

[jon_mx]

Jon has quite a few hooked still. Well done. :

Thanks, unfortunately a few are trying to sidetrack with political discussions and ignoring the fact words have meaning. But I will charge forward despite the distractions!

 

[sho nuff]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

Because he did not react. Thanks for playing.

JonMX is right. I think I said it earlier in the thread, I had a player once step on my hand with cleats on. Guy broke my hand, and I had a protective glove on already. Doctor said without the glove, my finger would have been shattered. You think someone with Suh's power, intentionally stomping on someone wouldn't cause damage? If Suh actually stomped on him, the guy would be seriously bruised, most likely bleeding, and a good chance of a broken bone.

So Suharto did not stomp on him?Dietrich-Smith turnrd after getting up, you could not see him for more than a second. Determining that it was not a stomp because a guy didnt roll around writhing in pain is as bad as jon's denial.here.

 

[sho nuff]

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

You seriously did not watch the same thing as everyone else.

Good job avoiding the question!

Nah...just not going to continue to argue with someone who obviously did not see the same thing as 99% of the known world.

Because he did not react. Thanks for playing.

JonMX is right. I think I said it earlier in the thread, I had a player once step on my hand with cleats on. Guy broke my hand, and I had a protective glove on already. Doctor said without the glove, my finger would have been shattered. You think someone with Suh's power, intentionally stomping on someone wouldn't cause damage? If Suh actually stomped on him, the guy would be seriously bruised, most likely bleeding, and a good chance of a broken bone.

Unless, of course, he didn't connect very well. Like yesterday. Doesn't mean it isn't a stomp.

In that case it would be an attempted stomp. Stomp implies a heavy level of violence and pain being inflicted. There was none.

So you claim we cant know suh's intent but you know if the guy felt any pain?Dude...just stop man...you look ridiculous.

 

[Tom Servo]

1 game for intent.1 game for the stupid presser.4 games for either believing in god or for using god as your witness depend on what you believe.2 games for not knowing god wouldn't be caught dead in Detriot and is taking a long holiday weeknd in San Diego with his son.

8 games now? Half a season? How long before you guys have Suh in jail?

 

[sho nuff]

Jon has quite a few hooked still. Well done. :

Ahhh...the fishing excuse?Not buying it.His history.suggests otherwise.

 

[sho nuff]

1 game for intent.1 game for the stupid presser.4 games for either believing in god or for using god as your witness depend on what you believe.2 games for not knowing god wouldn't be caught dead in Detriot and is taking a long holiday weeknd in San Diego with his son.

8 games now? Half a season? How long before you guys have Suh in jail?

You think bnb was serious with that?

 

[jon_mx]

So Suharto did not stomp on him?Dietrich-Smith turnrd after getting up, you could not see him for more than a second. Determining that it was not a stomp because a guy didnt roll around writhing in pain is as bad as jon's denial.here.

It took Dietrich-Smith less than two seconds to get up and walk away after being brutally stomped on by a 300-lb mad man who was trying to maimed him? He displayed no anger. Did not look at or touch his arm. In one quick motion, got up and strolled on his way acting like nothing happened. All the other Packers were pointing it out. Why? Because it looked 100 times worse than it actually was. The guy was hardly touched.

 

[Tom Servo]

1 game for intent.1 game for the stupid presser.4 games for either believing in god or for using god as your witness depend on what you believe.2 games for not knowing god wouldn't be caught dead in Detriot and is taking a long holiday weeknd in San Diego with his son.

8 games now? Half a season? How long before you guys have Suh in jail?

You think bnb was serious with that?

Based on my education, 1+1+4+2 = 8 to me.It's hard to tell with the High Outrage Society crowd. Everyone seems to be climbing all over themselves to be the most outraged.

 

[mad sweeney]

Jon has quite a few hooked still. Well done. :

Thanks, unfortunately a few are trying to sidetrack with political discussions and ignoring the fact words have meaning. But I will charge forward despite the distractions!

Nobody's engaging you in political discussions. They're pointing out how oblivious you are by your history of blindness to reason using them as examples. Your post above just proves the point even further.Honestly, how you can say that wasn't a stomp is one of the most ridiculous things. There's division on whether or not he should be suspended for it (though the people saying the press conference should affect it are a little weird), but there's practically universal recognition that it was a stompp. Even if he was, in fact, just trying to get out of the entanglement, which is what I originally thought but the video clearly shows is not true. The screen shot you linked to showed an open hand, his foot was not being held. Even if it was, you'd think he would pull his foot away, especially since he was being pushed/pulled away from the guy.

 

[Da Guru]

Why are some people in this thread getting personally involved and acting like Suh stomped their mother? It was two 310lb pro football players that have been battling all day in a scrum..and one guy got stepped on and is no worse for it.

Whatever Sir Goodell decides will be the punishment, and everyone will live with it.

 

[sho nuff]

So Suharto did not stomp on him?Dietrich-Smith turnrd after getting up, you could not see him for more than a second. Determining that it was not a stomp because a guy didnt roll around writhing in pain is as bad as jon's denial.here.

It took Dietrich-Smith less than two seconds to get up and walk away after being brutally stomped on by a 300-lb mad man who was trying to maimed him? He displayed no anger. Did not look at or touch his arm. In one quick motion, got up and strolled on his way acting like nothing happened. All the other Packers were pointing it out. Why? Because it looked 100 times worse than it actually was. The guy was hardly touched.

 

[sho nuff]

Why are some people in this thread getting personally involved and acting like Suh stomped their mother? It was two 310lb pro football players that have been battling all day in a scrum..and one guy got stepped on and is no worse for it. Whatever Sir Goodell decides will be the punishment, and everyone will live with it.

Who is doing this?

 

[Smack Tripper]

Please, he shouldn't get a game. They already threw him out.

I might look at him with less tolerance fhe rest of the way, but this is an overreaction

PARTICULARLY when I'd bet my bottom dollar the NFL will

Market him as a "bad boy" through their television partners to kingdom come

 

[PeterSam]

Suh is a fabulous player but the people who equate manliness with gratuitous violence don't know what it is to be a man. Go ahead and live vicariously through a brute like Suh who does things that you only dare imagine yourself doing and then brag about it on a football message board with other beer-gutted armchair types.

Disgusting.

 

[kinghill]

Guys, guys, settle down. No suspension necessary. Suh was simply using the guy's head for assistance while getting up off the ground. Then when he was pushed, he used his arm to maintain balance. Nothing wrong happened here.

 

[jon_mx]

Guys, guys, settle down. No suspension necessary. Suh was simply using the guy's head for assistance while getting up off the ground. Then when he was pushed, he used his arm to maintain balance. Nothing wrong happened here.

Finally, someone talking some sense!

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Suh is a fabulous player but the people who equate manliness with gratuitous violence don't know what it is to be a man. Go ahead and live vicariously through a brute like Suh who does things that you only dare imagine yourself doing and then brag about it on a football message board with other beer-gutted armchair types. Disgusting.

 

[Fightin Donkey]

This incident is being blown up way out of proportion it ain't even funny. Suh was being pulled away from the guy. His foot may have contacted the arm, but there was zero force because the defender had control of Suh. The guy on the ground never even reacted in any way that he was hit. The reality is Suh's foot barely brushed the guy and calling it an assault or stomp is silly.

You keep trying, but you're not hooking anyone.

 

[PatsFanCT]

I am saying Suh was being held by the other GB guy, and barely touched Evan, thus there was no stomp. It is obvious the impact was very minimal or Evan would have reacted. I am also saying the intent is not absolutely certain. You can argue that he attempted to stomp, but it is possible he was just kicking his leg trying to avoid Evan from grabbing it. Everyone seems to be in Suh's head and believes it was purely intentional, but I see the guy touching Suh and Suh possibly responding to that. Yes, the video looks bad, but it is not conclusively bad. The pushing the head against the ground is the worse part, but they were going at it pretty heavy. This is not entirely one-sided. The guy is an offensive lineman and was being very aggressive against Suh even after they went to the ground.

You are blind.There was a stomp...he hit the guy's arm with decent force after pushing his head into the turf.

Evan did react...but as I said, you are blind.

The intent is certain to all but a few Lions fans still trying to defend him.

I can argue he was attempting to stomp because his leg was already free when he brought it back down at a guy.

It was obvious.

It is very conclusively bad...and no, the only one showing aggression when they went to the ground was Suh....probably pissed he was just handled by a backup guard.

It was very one sided...you just can't admit it.

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

So taking the high road and not retaliating means it didn't happen? You're either fishing, or have never been in a fight of any kind. Unless you were the kid crying after getting hit.

 

[jon_mx]

I am saying Suh was being held by the other GB guy, and barely touched Evan, thus there was no stomp. It is obvious the impact was very minimal or Evan would have reacted. I am also saying the intent is not absolutely certain. You can argue that he attempted to stomp, but it is possible he was just kicking his leg trying to avoid Evan from grabbing it. Everyone seems to be in Suh's head and believes it was purely intentional, but I see the guy touching Suh and Suh possibly responding to that. Yes, the video looks bad, but it is not conclusively bad. The pushing the head against the ground is the worse part, but they were going at it pretty heavy. This is not entirely one-sided. The guy is an offensive lineman and was being very aggressive against Suh even after they went to the ground.

You are blind.There was a stomp...he hit the guy's arm with decent force after pushing his head into the turf.

Evan did react...but as I said, you are blind.

The intent is certain to all but a few Lions fans still trying to defend him.

I can argue he was attempting to stomp because his leg was already free when he brought it back down at a guy.

It was obvious.

It is very conclusively bad...and no, the only one showing aggression when they went to the ground was Suh....probably pissed he was just handled by a backup guard.

It was very one sided...you just can't admit it.

Tell me what did Evan do? Evan got up and calmly walked away as if nothing happened. Never touched or examined his arm at all. Evan acted as if he was not even touched.

So taking the high road and not retaliating means it didn't happen?

I am not talking about retaliating. If you get stomped on by a 300 lb man you react. Period. You shake your arm, or rub it, or at least look at it. It was not a stomp.