I'd agree with that. Over $500 is high stakes IMO. It either depends one what you consider a big buy-in and pay-out o how much money you have in the bank.FWIW- I play 8 real leagues (none less than $50). I have one "friendly" that is $20 but more like a free league to meI consider the $50 & $100 leagues low stakes and the $250 one medium stakes - but I'm not sure exactly what the standard is.
Please do not take this the wrong way, but how on earth do you find time to play in 8 leagues? I played in 3 leagues last year and swore I would never do it again. SO I am back in three leagues again (and the subscriber contest here), and know that I will lose my mind. Are you single with no kids? Can you do fantasy at work? You either have a ton of knowledge or are able to spend a great deal of time studying. DO you have any tips for someone that is swamped with just 3 leagues.This year, my leagues cost: 1. $652. $503. $20'Shane Falco said:I'd agree with that. Over $500 is high stakes IMO. It either depends one what you consider a big buy-in and pay-out o how much money you have in the bank.FWIW- I play 8 real leagues (none less than $50). I have one "friendly" that is $20 but more like a free league to meI consider the $50 & $100 leagues low stakes and the $250 one medium stakes - but I'm not sure exactly what the standard is.
Interesting. So your actual goal going in is to make a profit, and you're less concerned with the competitiveness of your opposition.I guess everyone's different. I play money leagues to try and find other people who take this hobby as seriously as I do. So, I guess when you look at it this way, I actually pay more to have a smaller chance of winning. Huh.I have experimented a lot over the past 5 years and I have found that I make more money doing more low cost leagues than 3 or 4 big money ones. I will be in between 8 and 12 leagues each season at costs ranging from 25-50 bucks. The 200 dollar plus entry leagues generally consists of owners as active and smart as I am so it becomes more of a job at that point. I'd rather enjoy the games and take in a couple hundred bucks profit overall rather than stress over making 2 grand a league.
Wow I would actually rather play in 1 league with owners as active as smart as I am as opposed to 8 to 12 leagues with chumps. Its not even close.If I want to make money, I will get a job. Fantasy Football is a game.I have experimented a lot over the past 5 years and I have found that I make more money doing more low cost leagues than 3 or 4 big money ones. I will be in between 8 and 12 leagues each season at costs ranging from 25-50 bucks. The 200 dollar plus entry leagues generally consists of owners as active and smart as I am so it becomes more of a job at that point. I'd rather enjoy the games and take in a couple hundred bucks profit overall rather than stress over making 2 grand a league.
$250 16-team league with $10 FA Pickups. Thankfully we've avoided the bolded in our league as that crap drives me nuts too. We pay $100/250 to 5th/6th place... then pay 40/30/20/10% of the remaining total to the top 4 teams. I can't stand flat payout structures. Hell I wish we did 50/25/15/10 but that would never fly.I use to play in a $500/16 Team league which I considered my high stakes as the payout was always around 10k (we charged for trades, drop/adds etc too). I dropped out after getting sick about arguing payment structure every year. It got to the point where the payout awarded everything (playoffs, power ranking, highest weekend score, season score etc) to the point that 10 out of 16 teams were almost guaranteed to get money back instead of the winner and runner up getting a nice pay day (like when we started).
Now I just play in $50-$100 (friendly) leagues. It's enough to keep me interested but not pissed off if something goes wrong.
'dagwood said:Wow I would actually rather play in 1 league with owners as active as smart as I am as opposed to 8 to 12 leagues with chumps. Its not even close.If I want to make money, I will get a job. Fantasy Football is a game.I have experimented a lot over the past 5 years and I have found that I make more money doing more low cost leagues than 3 or 4 big money ones. I will be in between 8 and 12 leagues each season at costs ranging from 25-50 bucks. The 200 dollar plus entry leagues generally consists of owners as active and smart as I am so it becomes more of a job at that point. I'd rather enjoy the games and take in a couple hundred bucks profit overall rather than stress over making 2 grand a league.
I also see that as high stakes, but it's ridiculous to get mad over it.$350 is high stakes for 99.99999% of all people who play ff. Hearing over and over that $350 is mid-stakes makes me angry.
thats undoubtedly the greatest post of all time on this forum.
12 Dynasty Leagues approx $10003 FPC teams $100012 Redraft Leagues approx $1500approx makes me feel better about the money for some reason...don't want to actually add it up.
12 Dynasty Leagues approx $10003 FPC teams $100012 Redraft Leagues approx $1500approx makes me feel better about the money for some reason...don't want to actually add it up.
I agree..but when more money is invested the less teams tank.I play in two leagues, one is with friends from work and is $40.00 and the other is one I have been in for 11 years with people I used to work with. That is $100.00. Honestly I don't want to be in more and I find the fun is in winning against people I know!
correct!High stakes is somewhat of a relative term...
incorrect...but I'd say in general high stakes is $1000 and up.
What rubs me the wrong way is that someone decided they could convince people that $350 is medium stakes just by saying it over and over.I also see that as high stakes, but it's ridiculous to get mad over it.$350 is high stakes for 99.99999% of all people who play ff. Hearing over and over that $350 is mid-stakes makes me angry.
agree$350 is barely med stakes. Its almost low stakes.Well, unless you are poorWhat rubs me the wrong way is that someone decided they could convince people that $350 is medium stakes just by saying it over and over.I also see that as high stakes, but it's ridiculous to get mad over it.$350 is high stakes for 99.99999% of all people who play ff. Hearing over and over that $350 is mid-stakes makes me angry.
That's probably a gross exaggeration. IIRC, fantasy football demographics trend towards college educated, professional males, 25-44, etc. $350 is not high stakes for much of that cohort. It's less than $30 a month - that's not an outrageous amount of money to spend on a hobby.$350 is high stakes for 99.99999% of all people who play ff.
The first result in a google search for "fantasy football demographics" claims that the average amount fantasy players spend is $200 per year. The people you know in real life represent a miniscule portion of the millions who play fantasy football, and I assume are subject to some kind of selection bias. They spend less than the average player, apparently.I'd argue that the members of this board have the demographics that they do because the fantasy community at large has these demographics: 91% white, 93% male, 25-34 years old, annual income $60-100K, 70% bachelor's degree or higher, 84% heavy internet users, etc. We probably are a pretty accurate representation of the entire FF community. It's a billion dollar industry.I don't think the members of this board are an accurate representation of the entire ff community. I'm well aware that people on this board don't think $350 is high stakes, and I'd argue all day long that they're in the very small percentage I mentioned earlier. For example, I don't know a single person in real life who plays for more than $200. I don't think it's about what people can afford.