How much money did you make in 2016? (2 Viewers)

[Zow]

I don't speak for everyone, but I enjoy going to work - really couldn't imagine not having a job at this stage of my life.

Yeah like GM I basically have twins and spent the weekend with them. I also looked at my calendar tomorrow and it ain't bad at all. I love my wife and kids, but I have no qualms about going into the office tomorrow. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Well it's hard not to take some insult to your comment since it seemed very backhanded. Are you suggesting personal injury plaintiff's attorneys are somehow a negative? Would you give more credence to a lifelong public defender? 

Lawyers who take money from people in order to get them out of crimes that most regular people would go to jail over is pretty slimey.

 

[Zow]

Lawyers who take money from people in order to get them out of crimes that most regular people would go to jail over is pretty slimey.

Why?

Eta: never mind; I just read your work in the sandy hook thread and was reminded of whom I'm dealing with. And it's good for business to for people to have the same flawed thinking you do. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Why?

I think the statement speaks for itself and require no further explanation. I'm allowed to feel that way. Others can have an entirely different opinion. 

I like Oncologists even less if you need a reference point. 

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Now, for the FBG's success poll we need Otis to post a question about our income multiplied by the 1 through 10 hotness figure for our wives, divided by our body fat % number as a raw number and not a %, divided by number of STD's (Those with 0 get to multiple by 1.7.

So if you make 1 million per year, have a wife who is a 9, have a body fat rating of 20% and have herpes and genital warts your number is 225000.  If you make 400,000, have a wife who is a 9, have 10% body fat and no STDs you get a 612,000. 

 

[flapgreen]

A whole bunch

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Now, for the FBG's success poll we need Otis to post a question about our income multiplied by the 1 through 10 hotness figure for our wives, divided by our body fat % number as a raw number and not a %, divided by number of STD's (Those with 0 get to multiple by 1.7.

So if you make 1 million per year, have a wife who is a 9, have a body fat rating of 20% and have herpes and genital warts your number is 225000.  If you make 400,000, have a wife who is a 9, have 10% body fat and no STDs you get a 385,200. 

You have the wrong financial adviser, you need to set up a SEP or a self employed prostitute where you can pay your 9-Wife like a prostitute as long as she and you are the only pimp and prostitute in the same bed and breakfast. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

Architect. 7 digits.

Did you lose the other three fingers in an architectural accident?

 

[Ilov80s]

Thank god for my wife

 

[Dr Oadi]

I'm working poor, 40k :(

No wonder you are so angry. 

 

[Otis]

I turned 50 earlier this year. Sold my business about a year and a half ago after having it for 15 years. We do a lot of military work, and had about 40 employees at the time of the sale.

And yes, I could retire very comfortably right now, but they are still paying me well and I think I'd drive my wife crazy if I stayed home so I'm going to continue working for a while. And besides,  it's a lot more fun working since my stress level has decreased 100 fold since the sale ?

And I agree with you - I'm truly a great example of the American dream. Someday I'll write up my backstory for anyone interested, It's quite interesting, IMO.

Rules. I look forward to the write up.  It had to be an awesome feeling to go to a job knowing you don't actually have to go to a job.  I hope to be in that boat around 50, 55 maybe, and then just keep on working because why not.  

 

[Otis]

Now, for the FBG's success poll we need Otis to post a question about our income multiplied by the 1 through 10 hotness figure for our wives, divided by our body fat % number as a raw number and not a %, divided by number of STD's (Those with 0 get to multiple by 1.7.

So if you make 1 million per year, have a wife who is a 9, have a body fat rating of 20% and have herpes and genital warts your number is 225000.  If you make 400,000, have a wife who is a 9, have 10% body fat and no STDs you get a 385,200. 

It's like you read my mind.  

 

[AAABatteries]

I like how Floppo, without really trying, has some people convinced he's making 1M+.

 

[xulf]

Where are you an architect????? My BIL is in Chicago and makes nowhere near $1 million...and doesn't even make $100k.

 

[shadyridr]

Where are you an architect????? My BIL is in Chicago and makes nowhere near $1 million...and doesn't even make $100k.

And his name is art vandelay

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Disappointed no one corrected my math.  Did it in my head and dropped a decimal.  612,000.

 

[Annyong]

Money is just a number, man. 

 

[Bull Dozier]

Yeah like GM I basically have twins and spent the weekend with them. I also looked at my calendar tomorrow and it ain't bad at all. I love my wife and kids, but I have no qualms about going into the office tomorrow. 

Your twins are young, right?  My boys are 13 and 15.  I'd spend all day every day with them over coming to work without question.  Step daughter is off at college.  Time goes by fast.  Spending most of it working sucks in my book.  I'd retire tomorrow if I could.

 

[Random]

3 main incomes in our house.  All 3 earn about the same.

wife - teacher (MA+30)

me - accountant

me - landlord 

 

[Zow]

Your twins are young, right?  My boys are 13 and 15.  I'd spend all day every day with them over coming to work without question.  Step daughter is off at college.  Time goes by fast.  Spending most of it working sucks in my book.  I'd retire tomorrow if I could.

Yes one year old. 

 

[eoMMan]

But what level are you guys on for Candy Crush?

I am on level 2147 now. Crushing it.

:flex:

 

[Bull Dozier]

Yes one year old. 

Hopefully your view point changes as family is the best part of my day.

Though, I don't remotely enjoy my job, so I lack the viewpoint of someone who does.

 

[El Floppo]

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Architects make #### all. 

don't know how many times I had to make the comment about the decimal point.... I really thought this was a given.

and fwiw- as an employee/contractor... I do about as well as anybody I know here in NYC. still living hand to mouth as the sole breadwinner of a family of four.

I like how Floppo, without really trying, has some people convinced he's making 1M+.

Where are you an architect????? My BIL is in Chicago and makes nowhere near $1 million...and doesn't even make $100k.

 

[Otis]

**** ALERT *** 

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Architects make #### all. 

don't know how many times I had to make the comment about the decimal point.... I really thought this was a given.

and fwiw- as an employee/contractor... I do about as well as anybody I know here in NYC. still living hand to mouth as the sole breadwinner of a family of four.

This is fascinating to me.  You guys are living on the Lower East Side (high rent/trendy area) in NYC and supporting a family of four all on less than six figures?   Seems like that would be really difficult.  

 

[El Floppo]

This is fascinating to me.  You guys are living on the Lower East Side (high rent/trendy area) in NYC and supporting a family of four all on less than six figures?   Seems like that would be really difficult.  

I'm right in the FFA bell-curve sweet spot. we've been in our spot for a long time so quite a lot below market rate (upstairs apt- same layout minus a private patio- pays 50% more than us) and both kids are finally in public school. but yes- really, really difficult. 

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Lawyers who take money from people in order to get them out of crimes that most regular people would go to jail over is pretty slimey.

I think the statement speaks for itself and require no further explanation. I'm allowed to feel that way. Others can have an entirely different opinion. 

I like Oncologists even less if you need a reference point. 

Jeez, these posts are horrifying.

 

[Ilov80s]

Teacher, don't make much money. We have been in a pay freeze for 7 of the 10 years I have worked . Insurance is good, I am enjoying a snow day, get lots of time off. I will never make much money, but my time is worth a lot to me. I love my job. It rarely feels like work. Also, I am lucky that my wife is raking it in. 

 

[Zow]

Hopefully your view point changes as family is the best part of my day.

Though, I don't remotely enjoy my job, so I lack the viewpoint of someone who does.

Oh they're awesome and I was being a bit sarcastic above, as I imagine GM was being too. 

 

[James Daulton]

I have engineers that work for me that have a base salary of $170k.

Wat?  Are they computery guys?  This in Cali?

 

[Bull Dozier]

Oh they're awesome and I was being a bit sarcastic above, as I imagine GM was being too. 

Gotcha.  I didn't read the whole thread, so I missed all the context of the previous exchange.

 

[James Daulton]

Also, we really do need to take location into account when thinking about incomes (no surprise I know) but I'll give a personal example.  I made a thread a few months ago about some interest I had in a gig in silicon valley.  I'm currently located in Baltimore (not exactly a low income/cost area) and while the job was a little bit more in scale, nothing like going from director to vp or anything.  The quoted salary range would have been an increase from my current gig of around 60%.  I knew that incomes fluctuated around the country, just no idea it was that extreme.  So $150k in NYC is really equal to $100k here in Baltimore and like $75k in the mid-west or South.

So let's keep that in mind you big city slickers who are ####### up the curve.  I hated people like you in college. 

 

[mr roboto]

My personal income fluctuates between a base of 60k with bonuses and commissions that can get me to 125-150k a year. This year we went on an extended selling freeze. Also we had a baby so my wife won't go back to work (she's a teacher) for probably a couple more years. Also we are opening a small business that will likely be in the red from when we open (march) for at least a couple months. 

So yeah, spending your savings is super fun. 

 

[fantasycurse42]

How many of the ones over $5M are real? None I assume. 

Show yourselves - I've got Chet/Kutta in the $1MM-$5MM range, don't know who else... I'd assume those $5MM plus are all shtick and prob in < $100k range.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

More than most.  Less than some.

 

[Dentist]

I've got Otis pegged around 200-300k/year plus some kinda bonus structure. Maybe 500-650k in a real good year. 

I've got otis pulling in 400k on the regular

 

[Dentist]

Also, we really do need to take location into account when thinking about incomes (no surprise I know) but I'll give a personal example.  I made a thread a few months ago about some interest I had in a gig in silicon valley.  I'm currently located in Baltimore (not exactly a low income/cost area) and while the job was a little bit more in scale, nothing like going from director to vp or anything.  The quoted salary range would have been an increase from my current gig of around 60%.  I knew that incomes fluctuated around the country, just no idea it was that extreme.  So $150k in NYC is really equal to $100k here in Baltimore and like $75k in the mid-west or South.

So let's keep that in mind you big city slickers who are ####### up the curve.  I hated people like you in college. 

This is very true.

I know from comparing fees with dentist buddies in varying areas of the country that the midwest has some of the lowest, but their overheads for employees, rent on their space, etc.. all much higher.

So they could make more and still be on an equal footing.

 

[chet]

Tell me more about this. 

Pretty easy to make an extra million trading FX. You just have to start with $10mm and by the time you have it figured out, you'll have $1mm left. 

 

[fantasycurse42]

I've got otis pulling in 400k on the regular

I'd estimate around $400-$500k on a regular basis, but he had a good year and moved into the $500-$750k category for 2016, so he started a thread about it.

I'd say in reality we have 4 or 5 > $1MM earners on the board. I'm not there, yet. 

 

[El Floppo]

Also, we really do need to take location into account when thinking about incomes (no surprise I know) but I'll give a personal example.  I made a thread a few months ago about some interest I had in a gig in silicon valley.  I'm currently located in Baltimore (not exactly a low income/cost area) and while the job was a little bit more in scale, nothing like going from director to vp or anything.  The quoted salary range would have been an increase from my current gig of around 60%.  I knew that incomes fluctuated around the country, just no idea it was that extreme.  So $150k in NYC is really equal to $100k here in Baltimore and like $75k in the mid-west or South.

So let's keep that in mind you big city slickers who are ####### up the curve.  I hated people like you in college. 

150k is barely scraping by in nyc (but also dependent on where in nyc). is 100k the same in balt?

 

[fantasycurse42]

150k is barely scraping by in nyc (but also dependent on where in nyc). is 100k the same in balt?

With a family of 4, $150k is prob paycheck to paycheck in any nice neighborhood around here - for a single dude, you can swing that and live decently. 

 

[tommyboy]

I like how Floppo, without really trying, has some people convinced he's making 1M+.

exactly  50,000.00   is 7 digits

 

[mr roboto]

With a family of 4, $150k is prob paycheck to paycheck in any nice neighborhood around here - for a single dude, you can swing that and live decently. 

150k in a nice suburb of Minneapolis gets you a renovated 3,500 sf home, kids in all sorts of sports and a couple decent vacations each year. 

 

[fantasycurse42]

150k in a nice suburb of Minneapolis gets you a renovated 3,500 sf home, kids in all sorts of sports and a couple decent vacations each year. 

Any nice suburb outside of NYC, pretend you're buying 3x income at $150k - $450k home, taxes alone are around $12k a year off the bat, and that isn't for anything all that nice by any means (def nothing like what you describe above). 

I've done the numbers left/right/sideways for a few years trying to determine best bang for buck while keeping commute under 1 hour door to door (which is coveted around here).

Highlands/Rumson/Fair Haven/Middletown in NJ provides it IMO. $1M gets you a decent house, taxes are around $20-$30k depending on factors, and the ferry gets you into Manhattan in 35 minutes, ferry is $700 a month though.

The bottom line from everything I've looked at is you need to earn at least $400-$500k to actually live comfortably in the NYC area. You can be okay on lesser amounts, but you def have to make sacrifices... Not easy getting ahead around these parts.

 

[El Floppo]

Any nice suburb outside of NYC, pretend you're buying 3x income at $150k - $450k home, taxes alone are around $12k a year off the bat, and that isn't for anything all that nice by any means (def nothing like what you describe above). 

I've done the numbers left/right/sideways for a few years trying to determine best bang for buck while keeping commute under 1 hour door to door (which is coveted around here).

Highlands/Rumson/Fair Haven/Middletown in NJ provides it IMO. $1M gets you a decent house, taxes are around $20-$30k depending on factors, and the ferry gets you into Manhattan in 35 minutes, ferry is $700 a month though.

The bottom line from everything I've looked at is you need to earn at least $400-$500k to actually live comfortably in the NYC area. You can be okay on lesser amounts, but you def have to make sacrifices... Not easy getting ahead around these parts.

whoa... 400-500k, we'd be living nicely. 

 

[Otis]

Now, for the FBG's success poll we need Otis to post a question about our income multiplied by the 1 through 10 hotness figure for our wives, divided by our body fat % number as a raw number and not a %, divided by number of STD's (Those with 0 get to multiple by 1.7.

So if you make 1 million per year, have a wife who is a 9, have a body fat rating of 20% and have herpes and genital warts your number is 225000.  If you make 400,000, have a wife who is a 9, have 10% body fat and no STDs you get a 385,200. 

We could have a really complex formula, like a QB Rating, except it would be FBG Rating. 

 

[Otis]

I'd estimate around $400-$500k on a regular basis, but he had a good year and moved into the $500-$750k category for 2016, so he started a thread about it.

I'd say in reality we have 4 or 5 > $1MM earners on the board. I'm not there, yet. 

Still not fully getting the Otis fascination.  I mean, don't get me wrong, I get it.  But it's still weird.

Whole point of the anonymous poles was so all this stuff could be, if we wanted it to be, anonymous.  HTH 

But what I find really interesting is the folks claiming over 5-10M per year.  We have a bunch of those.  Are those shtick answers????  That's baller.

 

[fantasycurse42]

We could have a really complex formula, like a QB Rating, except it would be FBG Rating. 

You also have a good deal on your living situation from what I understand, that isn't the expectation around here and far from the average. 

Hypothetically, a family of 4 looking for 1200 square feet in Manhattan or Brooklyn Heights (which I think most who live in a desirable area around here would call adequate, far from luxury at 1200 SF) is prob in the $60-$80k range a year. $400k and you come home with $250k - you're down to $170k before a single expense beyond rent. After all expenses, that prob brings you between $80-$120k of disposable income - so I think $400k ballpark is probably close to the cutoff per household to live comfortably. Below that and I think you have to make sacrifices here and there. 

 

[SFBayDuck]

150k in a nice suburb of Minneapolis gets you a renovated 3,500 sf home, kids in all sorts of sports and a couple decent vacations each year. 

Here in the Bay Area suburbs that gets you a rental apartment or small rental house, some credit card debt, 6-10 year old cars, vacations that involve driving one those cars somewhere, and struggling to keep retirement or college savings contributions going.

 

[kutta]

Wat?  Are they computery guys?  This in Cali?

Phoenix. Software and aerospace engineers. The vast majority of our folks make between $120k and $150k.

 

[AAABatteries]

But what I find really interesting is the folks claiming over 5-10M per year.  We have a bunch of those.  Are those shtick answers????  That's baller.

I don't find that interesting because if I was actually making that much scratch I'd be letting people know about it - and yes, I'm assuming most (or all) are lying.

I do find it interesting so many are willing to give details on their salary.  Maybe because I've worked so long in "Corporate America" but we pretty much never discuss our salaries.  My kids don't even know how much I make - I wish my wife didn't.