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How much money did you make in 2016? (1 Viewer)

How much money did you make in 2016?

  • 0 - $10,000

    Votes: 13 2.6%

  • $10,001 - $25,000

    Votes: 8 1.6%

  • $25,001 - $50,000

    Votes: 29 5.8%

  • $50,001 - $75,000

    Votes: 60 12.1%

  • $75,001 - $100,000

    Votes: 80 16.1%

  • $100,001 - $150,000

    Votes: 131 26.4%

  • $150,001 - $200,000

    Votes: 72 14.5%

  • $200,001 - $250,000

    Votes: 36 7.3%

  • $250,001 - $300,000

    Votes: 9 1.8%

  • $300,001 - $500,000

    Votes: 27 5.4%

  • $500,001 - $750,000

    Votes: 6 1.2%

  • $750,001 - $1 million

    Votes: 1 0.2%

  • $1 million - 2 million

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • $2 million - 5 million

    Votes: 1 0.2%

  • $5 million +

    Votes: 16 3.2%
  • Total voters
    496
fantasycurse42 said:
Simple art of a deal - you know you'll be dealing with someone who wants handouts, freebies, and to negotiate everything to death... You need to fluff the proposal on round 1 and give yourself the wiggle room to come down and make them think they're getting the best of it. 
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Yeah, let them think they are winning but #### them on the backend. Well, not exactly #### them but profit off of them.

 
I guess I'm the poorest non-student fbg.

Sold a spec house and a flip house. Made 40k. 

30% of that is taxes.

 
mr roboto said:
I believe you're an ### who takes one experience and generalizes beyond the wildest bounds of logic, reason and common decency. 
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Im speaking of my mother and father who died of cancer, both way too early in life. I forgive you for being an ####### and speaking about something you know nothing about. I pray none of your family has this same thing happen to them.

 
James Daulton said:
Seriously MOP.  Don't like doctors?  I bet when you or your loved ones are seriously ill you'll be thanking god we have doctors.  Oh doctors tried to cure and prolong your parent's lives.  Actually they only did if for the money, not to actually try and cure, extend their lives.  You suck and I hope when you need a doctor they refuse treatment.  Stupid, narrow minded, immature ####. 
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Amazing how people who didn't live thru this somehow know my story. Again I forgive you and pray nobody in your family has to experience similar. I hope you can hear the sincerity of my prayers.

My mother had terminal cancer and the doctor sold her on having a chance to live. My stepfather has said a hundred times if he could go back in time they would have never taken the chemo route and instead they would have just traveled as long as she could survive. Quality of life for those 3 months would have been far better than the time in hospice. 

I wish some of you once in a while wouldn't take your real life hell out on me just cause it says MOP on the door but if it saved someone else getting abused in your world I guess it's worth it.

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
Amazing how people who didn't live thru this somehow know my story. Again I forgive you and pray nobody in your family has to experience similar. I hope you can hear the sincerity of my prayers.

My mother had terminal cancer and the doctor sold her on having a chance to live. My stepfather has said a hundred times if he could go back in time they would have never taken the chemo route and instead they would have just traveled as long as she could survive. Quality of life for those 3 months would have been far better than the time in hospice. 

I wish some of you once in a while wouldn't take you our real life hell out on me just cause it says MOP on the door but hey it's if it saved someone else getting abused in your world I guess it's worth it.
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In my experience that is a pretty easy sell since most folks are desperately hoping to buy precisely that.  I also note he sold a chance to live, not a likelihood or a guarantee, but a chance.

Regardless, the experience obviously made an impression on you.  That it did is an indication that you were close with your parents.  That is to be envied.  To me your story is about how lucky you were and are, it is not about how unlucky your parents were to have sought out an oncologist.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Amazing how people who didn't live thru this somehow know my story. Again I forgive you and pray nobody in your family has to experience similar. I hope you can hear the sincerity of my prayers.

My mother had terminal cancer and the doctor sold her on having a chance to live. My stepfather has said a hundred times if he could go back in time they would have never taken the chemo route and instead they would have just traveled as long as she could survive. Quality of life for those 3 months would have been far better than the time in hospice. 

I wish some of you once in a while wouldn't take you our real life hell out on me just cause it says MOP on the door but hey it's if it saved someone else getting abused in your world I guess it's worth it.
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Your one bad experience does not mean all doctors are bad.  And ultimatley didn't the doc just try to save your mother's life?  We'll see what you do if someone says you have terminal cancer but there's a slight chance this difficult treatment could cure you.  I'm betting you won't be so quick to say, #### it and just live out the rest of your months.

I survived colon cancer only through the comprehensive, speedy quality care I received.  From diagnosis, to surgery, to post-surgery treatment, the physicians worked with me and my family to make decisions that would give me the best chance at a long life.  The six months after my surgery were majorly unpleasant and I knew that my doctors felt it with me.  And while it turned out better for me than it did for your mom, do not make the mistake of thinking that physicians take these treatment recommendations lightly.  They do not.  

edit:  apologies for the thread hijack but when some jackass tries to disparage one of the world's noblest professions it gets me riled up.

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
Im speaking of my mother and father who died of cancer, both way too early in life. I forgive you for being an ####### and speaking about something you know nothing about. I pray none of your family has this same thing happen to them.
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My dad died of MS when I was 7. He was completely paralyzed from the neck down on 100% oxygen since I have memories of him. My grandmother and grandfather had to sell the family business to care for him full time. 

That same grandmother came down with leukemia. She lived 7 years longer because oncologist and researchers developed treatments that both prolonged and enhanced her life.

ETA - you aren't just speaking about your experience. You are generalizing from there to oncologists broadly. So you don't get to hide behind your story when called out. 

 
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I tend to agree with mop (gulp) about quality of life, but making those decisions is tough sledding.  Choosing treatment versus choosing non-treatment is a crapshoot at best most of the time IMO when you get to that point.  

 
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James Daulton said:
Your one bad experience does not mean all doctors are bad.  And ultimatley didn't the doc just try to save your mother's life?  We'll see what you do if someone says you have terminal cancer but there's a slight chance this difficult treatment could cure you.  I'm betting you won't be so quick to say, #### it and just live out the rest of your months.

I survived colon cancer only through the comprehensive, speedy quality care I received.  From diagnosis, to surgery, to post-surgery treatment, the physicians worked with me and my family to make decisions that would give me the best chance at a long life.  The six months after my surgery were majorly unpleasant and I knew that my doctors felt it with me.  And while it turned out better for me than it did for your mom, do not make the mistake of thinking that physicians take these treatment recommendations lightly.  They do not.  

edit:  apologies for the thread hijack but when some jackass tries to disparage one of the world's noblest professions it gets me riled up.
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O he did not. She had terminal cancer and she initially wanted to just die naturally. He convinced her to take the chemo. She was 46.

im glad you survived, don't ####in piss on my mom's grave for kicks and giggles.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
In my experience that is a pretty easy sell since most folks are desperately hoping to buy precisely that.  I also note he sold a chance to live, not a likelihood or a guarantee, but a chance.

Regardless, the experience obviously made an impression on you.  That it did is an indication that you were close with your parents.  That is to be envied.  To me your story is about how lucky you were and are, it is not about how unlucky your parents were to have sought out an oncologist.
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Hey DW, appreciate your kind words and POV but my experience and also many of my friends who had parents and some who saw the same oncologist against my warnings had similar encounters. I'm not alone in people who had or have bad experiences. I am a fan of Eastern Medicine though. 

 
mr roboto said:
My dad died of MS when I was 7. He was completely paralyzed from the neck down on 100% oxygen since I have memories of him. My grandmother and grandfather had to sell the family business to care for him full time. 

That same grandmother came down with leukemia. She lived 7 years longer because oncologist and researchers developed treatments that both prolonged and enhanced her life. 

Go #### yourself with this 'I don't know what I'm talking about' bull####. And I need not your forgiveness. 

ETA - you aren't just speaking about your experience. You are generalizing from there to oncologists broadly. So you don't get to hide behind your story when called out. 
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You had zero interaction with the doctors. Sorry if your dad really died that way but in 15 years on this board I'm just hearing this story and only being used in defense because you obviously see I'm not playing around when I posted.

Hard to believe when you only use the story to drive an i-Knife a little deeper and that's obvious to most posters.

 
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chet said:
Pretty easy to make an extra million trading FX. You just have to start with $10mm and by the time you have it figured out, you'll have $1mm left. 
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Today is the kind of day (FOMC) that wipes off about 20% of that. 

I've got some trades going right now and I'm ####ting my pants. 

 
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This thread went from money to suddenly a holy war over different people in their experience with cancer doctors, incredible the ability for people with a lot of money to feel very righteous in their beliefs and values. Because they have money their moral compass much be better than a lot of folks. You can buy a lot of material things but respect is hard to purchase and some folks lack of it in the real world despite all their money is apparent in here.

Good Day

 
Ministry of Pain said:
They make money giving people chemo who are certain death, prolonging their lives with no quality of life, lovely folks. 

Both parents cancer, same experience both times. I could just expand to doctors and the medical community in general but the oncologists hold a special place on my list. 

Its Ok Shuke. You believe all doctors are good like most folks do. 
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So blatantly wrong and boastfully ignorant.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Hold that thought
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hey man- genuinely sorry you lost your parents. and it sounds like you went up against a shyster of a doctor with the person who looked after your mom. 

you can't be this dim to extrapolate one doctor to all doctors though... right?

both of my parents had cancer. my mom survived hers through chemo. my dad survived two different cancers with the help of oncologists- allowing him to watch me grow up into adulthood. pancreatic cancer took his life 10 years ago prior to receiving any treatment... but he was hoping the doctors could keep him around long enough to see my first kid born.

eta: my mom survived hers and has gotten to see both my kids born and growing up and continues to keep on trucking. because of oncologists. 

 
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El Floppo said:
hey man- genuinely sorry you lost your parents. and it sounds like you went up against a shyster of a doctor with the person who looked after your mom. 

you can't be this dim to extrapolate one doctor to all doctors though... right?

both of my parents had cancer. my mom survived hers through chemo. my dad survived two different cancers with the help of oncologists- allowing him to watch me grow up into adulthood. pancreatic cancer took his life 10 years ago prior to receiving any treatment... but he was hoping the doctors could keep him around long enough to see my first kid born.

eta: my mom survived hers and has gotten to see both my kids born and growing up and continues to keep on trucking. because of oncologists. 
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Let's all just stop.  He doesn't want to/can't see past his own tiny world view.  

I agree with Oats, let's get back to speculating how much scrilla he makes and how much he spends on nannies and "tennis instructors."  

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Go Bleep your Bleep out your Bleephole and shove your Bleep up your Bleep and with your Bleep you Bleep Bleep

You had zero interaction with the doctors. Sorry if your dad really died that way but in 15 years on this board I'm just hearing this story and only being used in defense because you obviously see I'm not playing around when I posted.

Hard to believe when you only use the story to drive an i-Knife a little deeper and that's obvious to most posters.
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MOP: Oncologists are shysters 

FFA: Huh?

MOP: They tricked my mom into chemo

FFA: Well that doesn't make them all bad

MOP: You don't get it, they made her end of life miserable

FFA: We do get it, but that's a really flawed conclusion to draw from your singular experience

MOP: maybe if your parent died you'd feel differently

FFA: my parent did die, and I do feel differently.  

MOP: I don't believe that your parent really died

^^^^do I have this right?

 
Ministry of Pain said:
This thread went from money to suddenly a holy war over different people in their experience with cancer doctors, incredible the ability for people with a lot of money to feel very righteous in their beliefs and values. Because they have money their moral compass much be better than a lot of folks. You can buy a lot of material things but respect is hard to purchase and some folks lack of it in the real world despite all their money is apparent in here.

Good Day
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Get a load of this freaking guy.

 
the moops said:
An Otis thread that turned into a thread about MOP.

Great
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We've entered some next level look-at-me vortex. Someone page Timmy. 

Although I will say this. Otis is good people. Sure he's narcissistic but he knows it and show an amazing capacity for caring about others. 

 
Thorn said:
MOP: Oncologists are shysters 

FFA: Huh?

MOP: They tricked my mom into chemo

FFA: Well that doesn't make them all bad

MOP: You don't get it, they made her end of life miserable

FFA: We do get it, but that's a really flawed conclusion to draw from your singular experience

MOP: maybe if your parent died you'd feel differently

FFA: my parent did die, and I do feel differently.  

MOP: I don't believe that your parent really died

^^^^do I have this right?
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I think you missed something about people making more than MOP something or other it's their fault.

 
My mom just turned 86 yesterday. We went and had dinner with the whole family, including my 87 year old dad.

They've both had cancer and come out on the other side of it, thanks to oncologists, radiologists, etc.. 

I am absolutely thankful for those doctors and will continue to be, despite what some bitter mouth-breather on an internet message board says.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Go Bleep your Bleep out your Bleephole and shove your Bleep up your Bleep and with your Bleep you Bleep Bleep

You had zero interaction with the doctors. Sorry if your dad really died that way but in 15 years on this board I'm just hearing this story and only being used in defense because you obviously see I'm not playing around when I posted.

Hard to believe when you only use the story to drive an i-Knife a little deeper and that's obvious to most posters.
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I think I'm pretty tolerant of people's idiocy, but this went in a direction that makes me very angry.

 
Less than half what I made the year before... maybe 30-40%.  Medical issues are the suck. 

Hoping to get back to 50-60% of pre-illness earnings now this coming year as I build my own business.  Oof.  

So much for 20k in revolving debt being just a couple months to pay off and then save for a downpayment.  It's not closer to 40k and going to have to do a lotta hustling to get back into the house buying frame of mind. 

 
I'm kind of honored that my personal tragedy brought out quite possibly his absolute lowest of lows and if he does win the title this year I'd like a little bit of credit.

 
My mom took my kid to see Moana last weekend.  Wouldn't have happened without chemo and her oncologist.

Back on the subject:

My guess is @Otis made around $25k last year working part time at Wendy's.  He currently lives with his parents and spends most of his free time posting on message boards and playing with the family shih tzus (they have 3, Molly is the mom, Pauly is the dad, and Holly is the baby).  Paid $0 in taxes and actually made money off of whatever state he lives in having a budget surplus and having to send it back to it's citizens.

That or he made about $3500 last year selling VHS recording of Pigeons and lives off of his wife's realtor income (she's from Turkmenistan).

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
You had zero interaction with the doctors. Sorry if your dad really died that way but in 15 years on this board I'm just hearing this story and only being used in defense because you obviously see I'm not playing around when I posted.

Hard to believe when you only use the story to drive an i-Knife a little deeper and that's obvious to most posters.
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https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/663032-who-taught-you-the-most-about-life/

Posted October 15, 2012

I was talking to a friend of mine and the topic of how people learn life skills came up. He had a messed up family life and learned a lot about what not to do the hard way. He's 31 now but probably sucked at life (by his own admission) from 18-late 20s.

For him, it was a church group who helped him get his life together.

I lost my dad at a young age. My mom and grandparents taught me most of what I needed to know about life out on my own, and because of living with a single mom, developed a lot of life skills simply because my mom and I made decisions together and I had to help pay the bills, read contracts, do laundry, shop etc.

How did you learn real life skills? Which one of these was the MOST INFLUENTIAL?

Obviously it's a mix of many factors. I think personally, in a perfect world, parents should run away with this, but my gut feeling is that this is not the case.
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https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/634261-why-are-there-so-many-bank-branches-being-built/?do=findComment&comment=14115903

Posted February 12, 2012

My financial advice came from my grandfather (my dad died when I was young). He always told me to get to know the people you do business with. Granted, at Chase they turnover their tellers all the time, but I've worked with the same banker for 5 years now. I don't know that it matters, but the guy has become a friend of mine and has stopped the sales crap with me. When he recommends something I know I can trust that it will likely be for my benefit.
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https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/651122-you-vs-your-dad/?do=findComment&comment=14656914

Posted August 20, 2012

He got sick young (30) and died in his prime (39). Before that he was a pot smoking hippie who spent his time surfing and skiing. Word is he was a ladies man who didn't have bad words with anyone.

So I don't know. I'll ask my grandfather.
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Maybe care a little about what other people say occasionally, and a little less about how you feel about everything in the world and you won't feel so blindsided when someone dares to express his own past experiences in reaction to your statement.

 
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