How overdrafted or underdrafted will guys be that played last night? (1 Viewer)

[ebsteelers]

I know certain leagues that are drafting today and tomrorrow. You get the points for starters from last nights games. People always like to overreact either good or bad. and its nice to get a lot of points in a position locked in.

Is Peyton now the first qb off the board? If so when? Could almost lock up a week for you

Where does JT go now?does he make it to round 8? or will someone get excited and take him before gonzo and witten

DT move in to top of 2nd, welker in the 3rd?

How far does Decker drop?

Marlon Brown? Ray Rice?

 

[DoubleG]

No idea - never been in a league that drafted after the season started and/or allowed retroactive points.

 

[ebsteelers]

No idea - never been in a league that drafted after the season started and/or allowed retroactive points.

me either.. But i know the fgpc main event has drafts this weekend, affl (they use the retroactive points).

Im sure Olegtree ended up getting drafted in some leagues last year who had their draft post first game.

Was wondering if there is an effect if any. Would seem like a 50 point week from Manning would bump him up alot

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I really think Peyton Manning will still be in the same tier as he was before as will Ray Rice. Wes Welker may slide up in his tier. Julius Thomas may move up in his tier but certainly won't jump ahead of tier 1 guys. But only Thomas will realistically move up in tiers. On the IDP side I could see Ihenacho moving up to a tier 1 DB based on the reaction to that performance. The Baltimore TEs will move to irrelevance and Jacoby Jones may drop due to the injury.

Yes it was an offensive explosion - but the guys that did it were already highly regarded (except Thomas who was a nice surprise).

 

[Jewell]

The Baltimore TEs will move to irrelevance

I could see waiting on TE until the last few rounds and picking Dallas Clark. Clark got targeted a lot last night, and if he doesn't drop an easy TD (which he rarely does) then Clark finishes with legit TE1 numbers. With a depleted receiving corps and with Ed Dixon looking horrible, Flacco could turn to Clark as a security blanket. I don't expect Clark to have huge numbers, but if your plan is to wait on TE to stock up on RBs and WRs then it looks like Clark could be serviceable.

 

[DoubleG]

Clark scares me. The guy has never had "great" hands, but always solid. He was dropping a lot of balls in preseason too. I am wondering if he isn't hearing footsteps or something's just not right from the concussions. He's taken a beating, and while 34 isn't old, he's had his bell rung quite a bit. I don't know - last night really suggests to me that this might be his swan song and it might be best to just let him drop to someone else.

 

[Man of Zen]

I think Manning's QB1, and probably no later than early 2nd in most weekend drafts.

You're not really moving him up all that far to essentially assure yourself a win in almost 10% of your regular season. And there's probably enough top end RB depth that you can survive the reach without giving up too much peripherally.

We were talking this morning, and I saw Julius taken at #74, I think it was? Next TE after Gonzo. So yeah, early returns suggest he's made quite a leap for himself.

 

[Ridgelake]

Auction results after JT had scored twice:

Witten 12

Gonzo 11

JT: 5

Finley 3

Cameron, Cook, Daniels, Sudfeld, 1

 

[Captain Hook]

There are always some players who put up big numbers on Thursday who are overdrafted on Friday and Saturday - short memory?

How about Kevin Ogletree last year? 31 points in the Thursday game was almost a third of what he had for the whole season

BTW in an online FFPC draft earlier today Peyton Manning went second - NOT second QB ... 1.02

Somebody couldn't resist putting 50 points into his Week 1 lineup ... but I doubt Manning scores that many in any of his remaining games

 

[rizzler]

Drafting after the season has started.

LOLZ

 

[ponchsox]

I don't get why people draft after the season starts when they had weeks to do it unless their first team sucked so bad they felt compelled to draft again.

 

[rizzler]

When Im hanging with my boys and we order pizza and wings...

I always eat a couple to make sure it's good, before I decide if Im going to pitch in some money.

 

[Man of Zen]

There are always some players who put up big numbers on Thursday who are overdrafted on Friday and Saturday - short memory?

How about Kevin Ogletree last year? 31 points in the Thursday game was almost a third of what he had for the whole season

BTW in an online FFPC draft earlier today Peyton Manning went second - NOT second QB ... 1.02

Somebody couldn't resist putting 50 points into his Week 1 lineup ... but I doubt Manning scores that many in any of his remaining games

Had a draft last year that took place after that first game. LOLZ all you want, it was the only time the group could all get together to make it work.

I took Ogletree...I think in maybe the 12th or so?...because our league rules said if you drafted a guy and designated him a starter, you got points already accumulated. I picked him up with every intention of dropping him come Monday, which I did.

The opportunity cost for doing so proved to be Randy Moss, who was the top guy on my board at the time, thinking it might be worth the upside gamble if they decided to use him as a goalline jumpballer. So I certainly didn't lose out by picking Ogletree instead, and did in fact win week one by less than the difference he made in my lineup, relative to what my "regular" starter would have put up.

It's not worth 100% writing off these games.

All that said, Manning ain't Ogletree. Even if you have to pick 1.01 to get him, it's still only a marginal leap in value over what you would have had to pay for him anyway. And every pick that goes by without taking him goes closer and closer to giving the guy who ultimately does get him that much huger a value -- for Manning's expected output, plus the slam dunk week one victory.

I'm honestly not sure how to value a guy like that right now. But if there were serious entry cash on the line, I wouldn't fault anybody who wanted to reach for him as early as first overall. A one-game head start is a really big value, and Manning's a damn good QB anyway.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

The FFPC main event drafts today and tomorrow and uses the scores from Thursday's game.

I think the O/U on the first Bronco off the board is 2.02, and that Bronco could be Payton. The format of these league is very short. 11 week regular season, then playoffs weeks 12 and 13. Total points has a large say in who is in and who is out. Looking back over the past 5 years the highest production by a QB over a season was Drew Bress in 2011, who scored 462 points the entire season.

Manning nearly score 1/5 of that in last nite's game. Normally I am a wait on QB guy, but this is very hard to overlook. Taking Manning early very likely ensures a week 1 W and top 3 QBs production throughout the season.

I have done enough drafts in this format to know that DT was going somewhere near the end of the first round, but he will likely be pushed up a couple of picks, maybe around 2.06. Welker was going around the 5th round and I anticipate he will go in round 3 now. J Thomas could go as early as round 5 in this format.

Torrey Smith's value takes a hit, and it should. If there was ever a time for him to compile points it was last nite. He just does command ball or play like a WR1.

D. Clark's value takes a huge jump as well.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

I my FFPC league Manning went 6, D Thomas 13 and J Thomas 49