How will Detroit's Offensive Safety be scored? (1 Viewer)

[teamramrod]

STL intercepted, ran into the EZ and was tackled. Does the team D get the points?

Peace

 

[Riffraff]

At the moment of interception, the "offense" became defense. Same as a tackle after the INT.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

STL intercepted, ran into the EZ and was tackled. Does the team D get the points?Peace

Sportsline credited the D in my league

 

[scott72]

I don't see how they can give the D the pts when they weren't even on the field.

 

[scott72]

At the moment of interception, the "offense" became defense. Same as a tackle after the INT.

Ahh yes, this makes sense..

 

[3C's]

yes (iirc). once there's a turnover the offense becomes a defense if there's a "special" play, like another turnover.

 

[Enforcer]

I don't see how they can give the D the pts when they weren't even on the field.

If the defense picks off a pass and then fumbles it back to the offense the defense would be credited for a fumble recovery.

 

[teamramrod]

MFL has not given me my 2 points.....



peace

 

[Arch Stanton]

MFL has not given me my 2 points..... peace

OMG OMG OMG!!!!!Your league keeps official score based on live unofficial scoring?! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!Chill out, scoring isn't official until it's official. Cracks me up when people freak out about scoring in live updates when official stats aren;t even official yet.

 

[Challenge Everything]

MFL has not given me my 2 points..... peace

OMG OMG OMG!!!!!Your league keeps official score based on live unofficial scoring?! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!Chill out, scoring isn't official until it's official. Cracks me up when people freak out about scoring in live updates when official stats aren;t even official yet.:crybabyiece

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[teamramrod]

MFL has not given me my 2 points..... peace

OMG OMG OMG!!!!!Your league keeps official score based on live unofficial scoring?! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!Chill out, scoring isn't official until it's official. Cracks me up when people freak out about scoring in live updates when official stats aren;t even official yet.:crybabyiece

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Thanks man....I am not that broken up about 2 points. Just having fun.peace

 

[Mr. Retukes]

In an ideal fantasy world, the Detroit defense would NOT get the 2 points. This play isn't much different from the infamous Keenan McCardell play from several years ago. (Except that the offensive player scored a safety instead of a TD).

 

[RandyDB]

In an ideal fantasy world, the Detroit defense would NOT get the 2 points. This play isn't much different from the infamous Keenan McCardell play from several years ago. (Except that the offensive player scored a safety instead of a TD).

On the McCardell play our league awarded the TD to the Tampa Bay Def/ST.3. Offensive plays cease with change of possession

a. Beginning with a change of possession, both teams represent the Def position for fantasy scoring purposes.

b. One team is the return team the other team is the coverage team.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

In an ideal fantasy world, the Detroit defense would NOT get the 2 points. This play isn't much different from the infamous Keenan McCardell play from several years ago. (Except that the offensive player scored a safety instead of a TD).

On the McCardell play our league awarded the TD to the Tampa Bay Def/ST.3. Offensive plays cease with change of possession

a. Beginning with a change of possession, both teams represent the Def position for fantasy scoring purposes.

b. One team is the return team the other team is the coverage team.

Illogical and contrary to most fantasy leagues. IIRC, Sportsline was the only major league that scored the McCardell TD to the D/ST.

 

[thriftyrocker]

In an ideal fantasy world, the Detroit defense would NOT get the 2 points. This play isn't much different from the infamous Keenan McCardell play from several years ago. (Except that the offensive player scored a safety instead of a TD).

On the McCardell play our league awarded the TD to the Tampa Bay Def/ST.3. Offensive plays cease with change of possession

a. Beginning with a change of possession, both teams represent the Def position for fantasy scoring purposes.

b. One team is the return team the other team is the coverage team.

Illogical and contrary to most fantasy leagues. IIRC, Sportsline was the only major league that scored the McCardell TD to the D/ST.

ESPN did too.

 

[RandyDB]

In an ideal fantasy world, the Detroit defense would NOT get the 2 points. This play isn't much different from the infamous Keenan McCardell play from several years ago. (Except that the offensive player scored a safety instead of a TD).

On the McCardell play our league awarded the TD to the Tampa Bay Def/ST.3. Offensive plays cease with change of possession

a. Beginning with a change of possession, both teams represent the Def position for fantasy scoring purposes.

b. One team is the return team the other team is the coverage team.

Illogical and contrary to most fantasy leagues. IIRC, Sportsline was the only major league that scored the McCardell TD to the D/ST.

IIRC most fantasy leagues had a huge controversy on how to score the TD. Ours not so much.

 

[teamramrod]

MFL has not given me my 2 points.....



peace

OMG OMG OMG!!!!!Your league keeps official score based on live unofficial scoring?!

OMG OMG OMG!!!!!

Chill out, scoring isn't official until it's official. Cracks me up when people freak out about scoring in live updates when official stats aren;t even official yet.

:crybaby:

piece

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Thanks man....I am not that broken up about 2 points. Just having fun.peace

I beat the commish and division oppenent by .9 points with the Detroit D http://www4.myfantasyleague.com/2009/live_...HISES=0003_0006

WHOOOTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace

 

[vikingdave]

what is anyone doing starting the Lions D/ST?

 

[lemmi]

what is anyone doing starting the Lions D/ST?

Cause they were playing the Rams.Someone playing matchups with their D's could definitely pick this one.With a host of crap teams on bye (KC and TB).SD could be owned already going against the Raiders, so I could see it.Wouldn't be my choice but I can see why.

 

[CowboyFan]

what is anyone doing starting the Lions D/ST?

People that drafted the Titans, finally dumped them weeks ago and are now playing matchups with whatever waiver wire Ds are available.

 

[TommyGilmore]

This play isn't much different from the infamous Keenan McCardell play from several years ago. (Except that the offensive player scored a safety instead of a TD).

There's one big difference, though: McCardell went from offense to defense and then back to offense. But in yesterday's game, the Detroit player (Kevin Smith) went from offense to defense and then remained on defense. Therefore, the defense gets the points.

 

[dickey moe]

Any new news on this? rtsports hasn't recorded the Det Def/ST safety in their stats.

 

[GregR_2]

At the moment of interception, the "offense" became defense. Same as a tackle after the INT.

So as soon as the defense recovers the ball, the defense becomes the offense and the offense becomes the defense. And since the defense isn't the defense anymore after an INT, then there's no such thing as a defensive TD. Intercept a ball and run it back and the offense just scored.What I'm pointing out is that this is a really inconsistent way to try to define for FF what is an offense and what is a defense. That logic is not used for the bulk of defensive scoring plays.

 

[dickey moe]

Any new news on this? rtsports hasn't recorded the Det Def/ST safety in their stats.

Looks like it's been recorded now.

 

[Keith R]

At the moment of interception, the "offense" became defense. Same as a tackle after the INT.

So as soon as the defense recovers the ball, the defense becomes the offense and the offense becomes the defense. And since the defense isn't the defense anymore after an INT, then there's no such thing as a defensive TD. Intercept a ball and run it back and the offense just scored.What I'm pointing out is that this is a really inconsistent way to try to define for FF what is an offense and what is a defense. That logic is not used for the bulk of defensive scoring plays.

Now this makes perfect sense.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Why would you have Detroit's defense in the first place?

 

[kolejo]

Crazy plays always get a big controversy like that. That's why I like scoring by hand in one league still. The McCardell play a few years back I believe we gave both McCardell and the Bucs D the points. Also what we do with Punt/Kick returns, it goes to the D/ST and the individual player. Safeties I don't see much controversy, as safeties can only be scored defensively in actuality.