Was this Joe's laptop or Hunter's laptop?They were told to suppress information to the voters that would be damaging to Biden. The information was true and the FBI knew it. I get your commitment to Team Blue, but come on man. Stop with the malarkey.How was it rigged or election interference?I hate to say it, but this is true. It was more rigged than 2016, and the sad part is that it wasn’t a foreign power rigging it in 2020. There was never any evidence that the laptop was Russian disinformation. The FBI had the laptop for several months and knew it was legit. Corruption and election interference. No way to spin it otherwise, though many will try in the next few hours.You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube after this latest revelation. It’s amazing how many of these “conspiracy theories” about 2020 end up being true. The election was rigged.
Seems the spin is calling this rigged or interference in the first place.
Was there a Russian disinformation campaign in the 2016 presidential election?Yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact. Pull out your umbrellas. There's about to be a storm of excuses from the Left.
Hunter’s laptop exposed the peculiar lifestyle of the Biden family and their business dealings.Was this Joe's laptop or Hunter's laptop?They were told to suppress information to the voters that would be damaging to Biden. The information was true and the FBI knew it. I get your commitment to Team Blue, but come on man. Stop with the malarkey.How was it rigged or election interference?I hate to say it, but this is true. It was more rigged than 2016, and the sad part is that it wasn’t a foreign power rigging it in 2020. There was never any evidence that the laptop was Russian disinformation. The FBI had the laptop for several months and knew it was legit. Corruption and election interference. No way to spin it otherwise, though many will try in the next few hours.You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube after this latest revelation. It’s amazing how many of these “conspiracy theories” about 2020 end up being true. The election was rigged.
Seems the spin is calling this rigged or interference in the first place.
Why are you getting personal yet again? I .asked a simple question…posted an actual quote.At some point would you cut the schtick and just be an American?They were told to suppress information to the voters that would be damaging to Biden. The information was true and the FBI knew it. I get your commitment to Team Blue, but come on man. Stop with the malarkey.How was it rigged or election interference?I hate to say it, but this is true. It was more rigged than 2016, and the sad part is that it wasn’t a foreign power rigging it in 2020. There was never any evidence that the laptop was Russian disinformation. The FBI had the laptop for several months and knew it was legit. Corruption and election interference. No way to spin it otherwise, though many will try in the next few hours.You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube after this latest revelation. It’s amazing how many of these “conspiracy theories” about 2020 end up being true. The election was rigged.
Seems the spin is calling this rigged or interference in the first place.
As per the examiner article above:
“Mr. Zuckerberg characterized the FBI alert as follows: “Hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert … there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. We have it on notice that, basically, there’s about to be some kind of dump that’s similar to that. So just be vigilant.””
Can you point to where there is a claim they were told to suppress information that would be damning to Biden?
@Schmeabs , you are free to take a shot at this as well.
And what theory is that? Please use actual quotes to support itYet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact. Pull out your umbrellas. There's about to be a storm of excuses from the Left.
I take that as a no…no actual quote to back up the claims. Thanks.Does anyone actually have zoomed in video of the Zuckerberg interview on the Rogan Show? I heard his toes were crossed when Zuckerberg said the FBI told him to change algorithms. If so, his entire interview should be discounted.
So you think Zuckerberg is lying? We’ll find out got certain when he is dragged into a Republican led House hearing and has to testify under oath.Anyone notice how quickly the "we need to see more evidence" guys flip to "GUILTY!!!" based on nothing more than an indescript conversation by Mark Zuckerberg who they'd say was screwing them and Trump no more than a day ago? And we're supposed to take them seriously?
“it basically fit the pattern” - ZuckerbergI take that as a no…no actual quote to back up the claims. Thanks.Does anyone actually have zoomed in video of the Zuckerberg interview on the Rogan Show? I heard his toes were crossed when Zuckerberg said the FBI told him to change algorithms. If so, his entire interview should be discounted.
Ive listened to the part discussing the Biden laptop.“it basically fit the pattern” - ZuckerbergI take that as a no…no actual quote to back up the claims. Thanks.Does anyone actually have zoomed in video of the Zuckerberg interview on the Rogan Show? I heard his toes were crossed when Zuckerberg said the FBI told him to change algorithms. If so, his entire interview should be discounted.
Watch the interview.
You are just being intentionally obtuse at this point. Good luck with your fishing trip.Ive listened to the part discussing the Biden laptop.“it basically fit the pattern” - ZuckerbergI take that as a no…no actual quote to back up the claims. Thanks.Does anyone actually have zoomed in video of the Zuckerberg interview on the Rogan Show? I heard his toes were crossed when Zuckerberg said the FBI told him to change algorithms. If so, his entire interview should be discounted.
Watch the interview.
Nowhere does it state they told him about Biden, the laptop, or told him not to post anything.
In fact, people were still allowed to discuss the story on facebook and spread the story on facebook.
That quote...did not state what you all have been claiming since the interview nor what the title change says "Zuck tells Rogan the FBI made him block it".
Lying about what specifically?So you think Zuckerberg is lying? We’ll find out got certain when he is dragged into a Republican led House hearing and has to testify under oath.Anyone notice how quickly the "we need to see more evidence" guys flip to "GUILTY!!!" based on nothing more than an indescript conversation by Mark Zuckerberg who they'd say was screwing them and Trump no more than a day ago? And we're supposed to take them seriously?
Ive listened to the part discussing the Biden laptop.
Nowhere does it state they told him about Biden, the laptop, or told him not to post anything.
In fact, people were still allowed to discuss the story on facebook and spread the story on facebook.
That quote...did not state what you all have been claiming since the interview nor what the title change says "Zuck tells Rogan the FBI made him block it".
That wasn’t my take Rock.Ive listened to the part discussing the Biden laptop.
Nowhere does it state they told him about Biden, the laptop, or told him not to post anything.
In fact, people were still allowed to discuss the story on facebook and spread the story on facebook.
That quote...did not state what you all have been claiming since the interview nor what the title change says "Zuck tells Rogan the FBI made him block it".
This doesn't reflect the tone or tenor of the interview Zuckerberg gave to Rogan. There was a clear "cease and desist" element to it, whereupon the FBI basically instructed Facebook to not allow these stories to spread. You're really painting a rosy picture of the implicit pressure the FBI put on Facebook and doing the story a disservice.
Ive listened to the part discussing the Biden laptop.
Nowhere does it state they told him about Biden, the laptop, or told him not to post anything.
In fact, people were still allowed to discuss the story on facebook and spread the story on facebook.
That quote...did not state what you all have been claiming since the interview nor what the title change says "Zuck tells Rogan the FBI made him block it".
This doesn't reflect the tone or tenor of the interview Zuckerberg gave to Rogan. There was a clear "cease and desist" element to it, whereupon the FBI basically instructed Facebook to not allow these stories to spread. You're really painting a rosy picture of the implicit pressure the FBI put on Facebook and doing the story a disservice.
That wasn’t my take Rock.
During the Red Scare the FBI would visit the employers of suspected Communists and threaten audits and other investigations unless they fired them. That was intimidation, FBI pressure. This doesn’t sound like that.
But hey I’m open to investigating it further.
If he should be in jail, then why isn't he in jail? If they have something on him for ****s sake then actually arrest and charge him. Sentence him and do it. Lord knows they've tried.You thank me now, Insein, but wait until you see what I wrote about the classified documents. Trump should be in jail.
If he should be in jail, then why isn't he in jail? If they have something on him for ****s sake then actually arrest and charge him. Sentence him and do it. Lord knows they've tried.
The only reason they would go apeshit is because for 6 years they have been throwing false flag after false flag at him. People get fed up with ********. No one is going to have a civil war. 1/6 is as violent as the right gets and that was barely a civil disruption compared to the riots and damage we've seen ignored over the last 2 years.If he should be in jail, then why isn't he in jail? If they have something on him for ****s sake then actually arrest and charge him. Sentence him and do it. Lord knows they've tried.
Because about 3/10 of the country is going to go absolutely apeshit when they do arrest him. In fact, that's probably the only reason they haven't. Well, there are two. One, we don't go around jailing our political opponents in this country. Two, there'd be more demonstrations with open carry or riots without than you could shake a stick at. The DoJ is in a terrible position here. He's probably guilty as all get out and they're really handcuffed by exigent circumstances.
Let's say this: asserting that since he hasn't been arrested because he hasn't been arrested is begging the question. You're committing a logical fallacy. It's evidence that can't be released, so it sits in the shadow of darkness. How serious the offense? "Well, we can't release that." Why? "Because that would compromise national security and put Americans in death's way."
There are no good solutions to this. They can't willy-nilly arrest the guy because there's a thacket of problems that goes along with that. Surely this must have occurred to you.
And yet, he walks free. So much for the evidence. It's almost like it was made up as many have attested that it was.They have shown it. They showed it with Ukraine…and several other things (including in the Mueller report).
You seem to conflate rumors with official reports and what the FBI has actually done
And yet, he walks free. So much for the evidence. It's almost like it was made up as many have attested that it was.
So open and shut right? Will he even pay a fine?And yet, he walks free. So much for the evidence. It's almost like it was made up as many have attested that it was.
You're saying that there's no evidence because he's not in jail, which is an interesting logical locution. That if they really had it, they'd use it. I gave you two reasons why they wouldn't upthread. Couple that with the redacted nature and sensitivity of the information, and you can see why it's not being produced.
He shouldn't have had those documents, full stop. He had no business dealing with them in any manner. He himself signed the bill into law making doing what he did a felony. There's no reasonable excuse at this point. It's the biggest cover your *** job he's ever done.
January 2021 >>>> 2020 in terms of worst civil unrest unless you don't feel our democratic ideals are of much importance.So open and shut right? Will he even pay a fine?
And no I don't by the "his followers will go apeshit" narrative. The worst civil unrest we've seen in the last 40 years was 2020 and our nation largely treated it like it was just a weekend in Chicago.
This is interesting Rock. I don’t disagree with the potential aftermath, but it’s hard for me to believe that after 6yrs of trying to get the guy on anything, they have something…and are like nah we can’t proceed because people will be pissed?If he should be in jail, then why isn't he in jail? If they have something on him for ****s sake then actually arrest and charge him. Sentence him and do it. Lord knows they've tried.
Because about 3/10 of the country is going to go absolutely apeshit when they do arrest him. In fact, that's probably the only reason they haven't. Well, there are two. One, we don't go around jailing our political opponents in this country. Two, there'd be more demonstrations with open carry or riots without than you could shake a stick at. The DoJ is in a terrible position here. He's probably guilty as all get out and they're really handcuffed by exigent circumstances.
Let's say this: asserting that since he hasn't been arrested because he hasn't been arrested is begging the question. You're committing a logical fallacy. It's evidence that can't be released, so it sits in the shadow of darkness. How serious the offense? "Well, we can't release that." Why? "Because that would compromise national security and put Americans in death's way."
There are no good solutions to this. They can't willy-nilly arrest the guy because there's a thacket of problems that goes along with that. Surely this must have occurred to you.
I think they should use the ones provided by the right with Trumps boxes. Just copy and paste most of those.Yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact. Pull out your umbrellas. There's about to be a storm of excuses from the Left.
This is interesting Rock. I don’t disagree with the potential aftermath, but it’s hard for me to believe that after 6yrs of trying to get the guy on anything, they have something…and are like nah we can’t proceed because people will be pissed?
I can’t buy that, it has to conclude somehow.
Great post. The only thing keeping him from being indicted is him being the former Prez, they have allowed him much rope.This is interesting Rock. I don’t disagree with the potential aftermath, but it’s hard for me to believe that after 6yrs of trying to get the guy on anything, they have something…and are like nah we can’t proceed because people will be pissed?
I can’t buy that, it has to conclude somehow.
I legitimately believe that. I think that both sides give the other little credit for how much they actually do love the country. Now, that love manifests itself in different ways because the ideologies are so polarized and incompatible that it's natural you have this huge divide or rift at the extremes, which seem to be running each party. But I really think Garland, who would have been a S. Ct. Justice, knows exactly what throwing a political opponent in jail means regarding both appearance of impropriety and precedent. Democrats don't want a Trump-like figure to take classified documents and mishandle important information. They don't want national security affected when he tries to bribe or extort Ukranian officials. They don't want any of that. Things like that undermine all of us.
My take on this is that he's forced their hand and they don't want to play those cards because it just might sever the already tenuous ties the extreme 10 percent on the right has with the extreme 10 percent on the left. So we have this.
Because he ought to be in jail by his own signature.
ITs already been shown many times over that he is bad for the country.You don't indict an ex-President (and candidate for the next election) unless it is something very serious. Full stop. They got the documents back. Don't play into his hand and turn him into a martyr. Intelligently figure out what the best way is to prevent him from winning another election, which in my opinion is calmly showing why he's so bad for the country.
I hear what you’re saying and I think that in general of course there are huge implications when charging a former president with anything. But I still can’t process that they’ve been going after him and finally have the goods on something material…and are punting. It’s not congruent with what I’ve witnessed for 6yrs.This is interesting Rock. I don’t disagree with the potential aftermath, but it’s hard for me to believe that after 6yrs of trying to get the guy on anything, they have something…and are like nah we can’t proceed because people will be pissed?
I can’t buy that, it has to conclude somehow.
I legitimately believe that. I think that both sides give the other little credit for how much they actually do love the country. Now, that love manifests itself in different ways because the ideologies are so polarized and incompatible that it's natural you have this huge divide or rift at the extremes, which seem to be running each party. But I really think Garland, who would have been a S. Ct. Justice, knows exactly what throwing a political opponent in jail means regarding both appearance of impropriety and precedent. Democrats don't want a Trump-like figure to take classified documents and mishandle important information. They don't want national security affected when he tries to bribe or extort Ukranian officials. They don't want any of that. Things like that undermine all of us.
My take on this is that he's forced their hand and they don't want to play those cards because it just might sever the already tenuous ties the extreme 10 percent on the right has with the extreme 10 percent on the left. So we have this.
Because he ought to be in jail by his own signature.
So freedom is now the sole definer of guilt? Interesting theory. You must be an O.J fan.And yet, he walks free. So much for the evidence. It's almost like it was made up as many have attested that it was.They have shown it. They showed it with Ukraine…and several other things (including in the Mueller report).
You seem to conflate rumors with official reports and what the FBI has actually done
Honest question for the bolded. Why? And when answering this question let’s remove Trump from the equation.You don't indict an ex-President (and candidate for the next election) unless it is something very serious. Full stop. They got the documents back. Don't play into his hand and turn him into a martyr. Intelligently figure out what the best way is to prevent him from winning another election, which in my opinion is calmly showing why he's so bad for the country.
Wait. People thought Zuckerberg would be a good president? Why?I miss the days when people actually thought Zuckerberg would be a good president.
Just wait until you hear about what they thought of Oprah or The Rock.Wait. People thought Zuckerberg would be a good president? Why?I miss the days when people actually thought Zuckerberg would be a good president.
The fbi has been calm. This guy keeps talking ****. You indict him if he broke the law.You don't indict an ex-President (and candidate for the next election) unless it is something very serious. Full stop. They got the documents back. Don't play into his hand and turn him into a martyr. Intelligently figure out what the best way is to prevent him from winning another election, which in my opinion is calmly showing why he's so bad for the country.
The jailing of a political rival is about as serious as it gets. Wars have been started over it.Honest question for the bolded. Why? And when answering this question let’s remove Trump from the equation.You don't indict an ex-President (and candidate for the next election) unless it is something very serious. Full stop. They got the documents back. Don't play into his hand and turn him into a martyr. Intelligently figure out what the best way is to prevent him from winning another election, which in my opinion is calmly showing why he's so bad for the country.
my thoughts…..Why the special treatment in regards to the law? Shouldn’t it be the exact opposite? Shouldn’t we hold these people to the highest standards. If we truly want this country to be as great as we claim it to be how do we do that when we allow our elected officials special privileges in regards to breaking the law. It’s that mindset, in my opinion, that gets us a Trump. We are broken and we don’t repair that by allowing the people who run this county to break it more. The only way to break the entitlement that power brings is accountability. Until that happens the morally corrupt people like Trump (and most of congress) will be exactly what we continue to get.
At least they are human, I thought the consensus is that Zuck is a either a very advanced robot or an alien.Just wait until you hear about what they thought of Oprah or The Rock.
Over what appears to be a victimless crime? You want to start a Civil War over 11 sets of classified info that were in a locked room at the President's home? Especially when Hillary was exonerated for the same offenses, even though it's highly likely that her information fell into enemy hands? In what alternative universe is that good for the country?The fbi has been calm. This guy keeps talking ****. You indict him if he broke the law.You don't indict an ex-President (and candidate for the next election) unless it is something very serious. Full stop. They got the documents back. Don't play into his hand and turn him into a martyr. Intelligently figure out what the best way is to prevent him from winning another election, which in my opinion is calmly showing why he's so bad for the country.
It’s not about political rival, it about the law. This protection-ism of Washington ton HAS to stop.The jailing of a political rival is about as serious as it gets. Wars have been started over it.Honest question for the bolded. Why? And when answering this question let’s remove Trump from the equation.You don't indict an ex-President (and candidate for the next election) unless it is something very serious. Full stop. They got the documents back. Don't play into his hand and turn him into a martyr. Intelligently figure out what the best way is to prevent him from winning another election, which in my opinion is calmly showing why he's so bad for the country.
my thoughts…..Why the special treatment in regards to the law? Shouldn’t it be the exact opposite? Shouldn’t we hold these people to the highest standards. If we truly want this country to be as great as we claim it to be how do we do that when we allow our elected officials special privileges in regards to breaking the law. It’s that mindset, in my opinion, that gets us a Trump. We are broken and we don’t repair that by allowing the people who run this county to break it more. The only way to break the entitlement that power brings is accountability. Until that happens the morally corrupt people like Trump (and most of congress) will be exactly what we continue to get.
If it was about the law then James Comey would have been arrested for leaking classified information to Columbia University professor Daniel Richman. Comey admitted this. While laws may be objective, the administering of justice is subjective. If you're going to indict a former President you better be damn sure it passes any and all subjectivity tests.It’s not about political rival, it about the law. This protection-ism of Washington ton HAS to stop.
This raises an interesting question. Would Republicans be ok if it was a Republican investigating Trump. Like a Republican former Director of the FBI appointed by a Republican Deputy Attorney General?It’s not about political rival, it about the law. This protection-ism of Washington ton HAS to stop.The jailing of a political rival is about as serious as it gets. Wars have been started over it.Honest question for the bolded. Why? And when answering this question let’s remove Trump from the equation.You don't indict an ex-President (and candidate for the next election) unless it is something very serious. Full stop. They got the documents back. Don't play into his hand and turn him into a martyr. Intelligently figure out what the best way is to prevent him from winning another election, which in my opinion is calmly showing why he's so bad for the country.
my thoughts…..Why the special treatment in regards to the law? Shouldn’t it be the exact opposite? Shouldn’t we hold these people to the highest standards. If we truly want this country to be as great as we claim it to be how do we do that when we allow our elected officials special privileges in regards to breaking the law. It’s that mindset, in my opinion, that gets us a Trump. We are broken and we don’t repair that by allowing the people who run this county to break it more. The only way to break the entitlement that power brings is accountability. Until that happens the morally corrupt people like Trump (and most of congress) will be exactly what we continue to get.