Hype Train has Fallen off the Tracks - Kenbrell Thompkins (1 Viewer)

[Slapdash]

KT banged up this week with Amendola back. Still starting him.

 

[Slapdash]

Not sure KT is worth playing with Amendola back. Only 4 targets last week.

 

[NREC34]

Not sure KT is worth playing with Amendola back. Only 4 targets last week.

Are you playing him? I was thinking about it and saw his projected points increased after Gronkowski was ruled out.

 

[Hoss Style]

Not sure KT is worth playing with Amendola back. Only 4 targets last week.

I'm gonna hold off before I react. Last game was a real cluncker for the Pats. Brady didin't throw a TD to anyone for the first time in years. Their leading receiver only had 55 yds. Thompkins only had 3 receptions but was third on the team.

I'm not saying it's looking good, but I'm gonna wait till the Pat's offense has at least an average game before decide.

 

[Joe Summer]

Thinking of cutting him. What a waste of a waiver priority.

 

[renesauz]

Wow....lot of over-reaction in here. Kid is a raw rookie with a lot of natural talent. He may or may not lose some targets with Amendola and Gronk back, but I would think he's well worth holding on to in dynasty and deeper redrafts.

 

[lod01]

Apparently you guys didn't see the last game. Weather totally sucked for part of the game and sucked for most of the game.

Edelman, 7 targets, caught 2

Thompkins, 5 targets, caught 3

Amendola, 9 targets, caught 4

 

[Bri]

Apparently you guys didn't see the last game. Weather totally sucked for part of the game and sucked for most of the game.

Edelman, 7 targets, caught 2

Thompkins, 5 targets, caught 3

Amendola, 9 targets, caught 4

This.

And I'm getting sick and tired of giving Brady mulligans. I don't care which WR we're talking about, he ought to have enough of a rapport with him by now to have better numbers than above.

I don't expect weather to be an issue and Brady needs to improve this week.

 

[Run It Up]

Not sure KT is worth playing with Amendola back. Only 4 targets last week.

I'm starting KT and Amendola.

I think KT is hurt the least by Amendola's return and I think when Gronk eventually returns it will help KT.

 

[Slapdash]

Not sure KT is worth playing with Amendola back. Only 4 targets last week.

Are you playing him? I was thinking about it and saw his projected points increased after Gronkowski was ruled out.

I have him on the bubble this week with Jennings and Stacy.

My team is 1-4 though, so I certainly won't cut him in a keeper. He has the talent to be a top WR for sure.

 

[Hoss Style]

Not sure KT is worth playing with Amendola back. Only 4 targets last week.

Are you playing him? I was thinking about it and saw his projected points increased after Gronkowski was ruled out.

I have him on the bubble this week with Jennings and Stacy.

My team is 1-4 though, so I certainly won't cut him in a keeper. He has the talent to be a top WR for sure.

I can't seperate your posts from your avatar. Every time I finish reading one I find my self saying, "Well, that was a logical post"

 

[Slapdash]

I think the title of this thread is probably accurate by now. Despite the beautiful game-winning TD last week, it seems like he is behind Amendola, Eldlemen, and Dobson in the pecking order. Gronk will be back this week too.

Of course, it looks like I will be starting him due to bye/injury issues.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I think the title of this thread is probably accurate by now. Despite the beautiful game-winning TD last week, it seems like he is behind Amendola, Eldlemen, and Dobson in the pecking order. Gronk will be back this week too.

Of course, it looks like I will be starting him due to bye/injury issues.

I always viewed KT as Plan B for Amendola and Gronk.

With Gronk out I considered KT a real red zone beneficiary, and he has gotten some TDs, and with Danny out I thought he would get some targets.

Dobson is in quite a bit now and Collie might be stepping in, which affects the Amendola role; and of course Gronk is back now.

He was 5 seconds from a really poor day vs the Saints, owners were lucky to get what they did.

 

[identikit]

He's a rookie.

I don't think it's over for him yet.

ETA: dynasty-wise

 

[duaneok66]

Greg Cosell likes him the most of the three rookies.

 

[bondra76]

I still believe in the kid. Amendola, Edelman, and Gronk are all 1-15 yard targets. Thompkins is 15+. Could argue that Brandon Lloyd had the same role last year but Thompkins runs much better routes to possibly catch some short/middle range balls.

 

[tombonneau]

Just sold him in redraft. Packaged him and Mikes Austin for Cutler to Cobb owner. As a pats fan I see his value bottoming out. His value was as a RZ target which takes a hit with Gronkowski back and don't underestimate impact of Collie.

 

[mbuehner]

Just sold him in redraft. Packaged him and Mikes Austin for Cutler to Cobb owner. As a pats fan I see his value bottoming out. His value was as a RZ target which takes a hit with Gronkowski back and don't underestimate impact of Collie.

Dont underestimate the impacts TO Collie.

Anybody trying to juggle projections using the current numbers but adding Gronk and Amendola back in the mix is making a pretty serious mistake. KT has stayed relevant on an offense that is sputtering compared to its usual healthy form.

 

[buddhacwru]

He's been dropped in a few leagues. Worth picking up? Him and Stills seem to be the best players on most of my waiver wires....

 

[fantasycurse42]

He was dropped in my other league, then cleared waivers - Next man I drop off my roster if I need someone in my other league (WW priority #1)...

I see him finish the year as a very very poor mans Brandon Lloyd.

 

[Slapdash]

He's been dropped in a few leagues. Worth picking up? Him and Stills seem to be the best players on most of my waiver wires....

Redraft? Probably not.

 

[McGarnicle]

Not much upside for more than a few targets per week with Gronk back, and likewise, not as many RZ targets. Then one week I just know he's going to post something like 5/85/2 because Belichick, then disappear again.

 

[Franknbeans]

I just dropped him for Locker

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Just sold him in redraft. Packaged him and Mikes Austin for Cutler to Cobb owner. As a pats fan I see his value bottoming out. His value was as a RZ target which takes a hit with Gronkowski back and don't underestimate impact of Collie.

I agree with the part about his role as a RZ target now being diminished. I traded him a couple weeks ago.

 

[lod01]

With Brady reverting to a rookie/backup level QB play and only looking at Gronk on every down, Thompkins has taken a huge hit.

 

[Slapdash]

With Brady reverting to a rookie/backup level QB play and only looking at Gronk on every down, Thompkins has taken a huge hit.

I don't have the stats, but it really seems like his snap counts have gone down while Dobson has taken a bigger role.

 

[Run It Up]

With Brady reverting to a rookie/backup level QB play and only looking at Gronk on every down, Thompkins has taken a huge hit.

I don't have the stats, but it really seems like his snap counts have gone down while Dobson has taken a bigger role.

No they are on the field practically the same amount of time, they share the field and rotate the same spot. Dobson has edged ahead in targets over the last couple of games but in that same time has dropped more balls than he should have and as per usual were significant drops.

I think Thompkins and Dobsons value will both increase but it will require a more stable offense, the sooner Edelman is out of the main unit and Amendola and Gronk are playing every week their should be less pressure. The rookies are still improving even if it looks like a bunch of lateral movement.

 

[Slapdash]

With Brady reverting to a rookie/backup level QB play and only looking at Gronk on every down, Thompkins has taken a huge hit.

I don't have the stats, but it really seems like his snap counts have gone down while Dobson has taken a bigger role.

No they are on the field practically the same amount of time, they share the field and rotate the same spot. Dobson has edged ahead in targets over the last couple of games but in that same time has dropped more balls than he should have and as per usual were significant drops.I think Thompkins and Dobsons value will both increase but it will require a more stable offense, the sooner Edelman is out of the main unit and Amendola and Gronk are playing every week their should be less pressure. The rookies are still improving even if it looks like a bunch of lateral movement.

That is kind of my point. Earlier in the season Thompkins was on the field more than Dobson and any other receiver for NE.

 

[Run It Up]

With Brady reverting to a rookie/backup level QB play and only looking at Gronk on every down, Thompkins has taken a huge hit.

I don't have the stats, but it really seems like his snap counts have gone down while Dobson has taken a bigger role.

No they are on the field practically the same amount of time, they share the field and rotate the same spot. Dobson has edged ahead in targets over the last couple of games but in that same time has dropped more balls than he should have and as per usual were significant drops.I think Thompkins and Dobsons value will both increase but it will require a more stable offense, the sooner Edelman is out of the main unit and Amendola and Gronk are playing every week their should be less pressure. The rookies are still improving even if it looks like a bunch of lateral movement.

That is kind of my point. Earlier in the season Thompkins was on the field more than Dobson and any other receiver for NE.

Dobson didn't play in week 1, Kenbrell got targets stacked upon targets - failing to convert on most of them. Dobson played in week 2, and the role flipped, and Dobson had a ton of targets (while KT was still playing) - Dobson also struggled to convert most of them. They have since played virtually the same amount to within a similar degree of one another.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Kenbrell Thompkins was held without a catch in the Patriots' Week 8 win over the Dolphins.
Thompkins was a non-factor against Miami as Aaron Dobson handled the vast majority of New England's X receiver snaps. With Danny Amendola back healthy, it appears Thompkins has been deemed the odd man out of the Patriots' three-wide sets. He's just a WR4/5 stash in re-draft leagues at this point. Thompkins' midseason pace stats don't matter when he isn't getting any playing time.

 

[Slapdash]

Likely dropping

 

[rocketsauce]

Choo Choooooooeeeeewwwwwww.

I tried to swap him for Dobson this past week, but the secret was already out. KT is pretty much done, until the next wave of injuries.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Dropping

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Kenbrell Thompkins played on just 14-of-65 snaps (21.3 percent) in Sunday's win over the Dolphins.
It's a season-low in snaps for Thompkins, as he had no catches and played far behind Aaron Dobson (50 snaps) for the second time in three weeks. His role as the every-down X receiver has been lost. And with Danny Amendola/Rob Gronkowski healthy, there aren't as many targets to go around. Thompkins can be dropped in shallow fantasy formats.

Related: Aaron Dobson

Source: ESPN Boston

 

[Raider Nation]

The dream is over. :( Dropping him for RB depth.

It was a good run for a few games.

 

[Hoss Style]

The dream is over. :( Dropping him for RB depth.

It was a good run for a few games.

Yeah, I should have hopped off the train while it was still moving a few weeks ago. Instead the train's stopped, and I was gently helped off to the pavement and told to "Have a nice day."

 

[NREC34]

That last second TD was like a dagger in my opponents heart. I'll remember the good times...

 

[nobiz]

It's the Last Train to Hypesville and I'll meet you at the station.

 

[Slapdash]

I've dropped him in both of my leagues. Talent is there, but he didn't take advantage of it before Dobson got healthy. Still not sure what they see in Dobson and Collie to give them more chances.

 

[shader]

I've dropped him in both of my leagues. Talent is there, but he didn't take advantage of it before Dobson got healthy. Still not sure what they see in Dobson and Collie to give them more chances.

Dobson looks to be much more fluid running routes, and seems to do a great job of getting open. He just can't seem to catch the ball consistently. If he ever does, he could be a very solid player.

 

[Rushmore]

I've dropped him in both of my leagues. Talent is there, but he didn't take advantage of it before Dobson got healthy. Still not sure what they see in Dobson and Collie to give them more chances.

I think Dobson gives them that big play threat from the outside. He has more upside and I think they are doing the right thing.

 

[lod01]

Dude is sitting alone at the end of the bench waiting for his dynasty walking papers.

 

[ex-ghost]

Dynasty prospects? Sounds like he falls off the map, especially with Dobson making his move.

 

[lod01]

Getting ready to call him into the coaches office.

 

[saintfool]

dynasty hold; re-draft drop.

 

[OG_GF]

Had Sanchez never been hurt, would there be a Jets receiver with better stats this than KT this year? We will never know.

 

[Slapdash]

Had Sanchez never been hurt, would there be a Jets receiver with better stats this than KT this year? We will never know.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Had Sanchez never been hurt, would there be a Jets receiver with better stats this than KT this year? We will never know.

None of the Jet WRs stayed healthy either - on top of the fact that they are all average talents, at best, of course. Well, maybe Holmes is abover average - but that dude is the tin man.

It was a battle of attrition and mediocrity in the first place, so who cares?

 

[squistion]

Had Sanchez never been hurt, would there be a Jets receiver with better stats this than KT this year? We will never know.

None of the Jet WRs stayed healthy either - on top of the fact that they are all average talents, at best, of course. Well, maybe Holmes is abover average - but that dude is the tin man.

It was a battle of attrition and mediocrity in the first place, so who cares?

I happen to view Kerley as an above average possession receiver and I think with a decent QB has the potential of becoming a solid flex starter in PPR leagues.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Boston Globe reports that "it looks like" Josh Boyce and Kenbrell Thompkins may be competing for the No. 5 receiver spot in 2014.
The Patriots appear set one through four with Julian Edelman, Aaron Dobson, Danny Amendola, and Brandon LaFell. Boyce and Thompkins combined to catch 41 passes for 587 yards and four touchdowns as rookies, with Thompkins doing the vast majority of that damage. New England also still has its eyes on veteran wideouts. After the passing game struggled for stretches in 2013, the Patriots are looking to stockpile at receiver and create competition.

Related: Kenbrell Thompkins

Source: Boston Globe