Hypothetical: Kurt Warner back with Mad Mike? (1 Viewer)

[cdizzle999]

This isn't based on anything other than my wild imagination... and the fact that somehow I ended up with Gore, VD and Bryant Johnson on my fantasy team but what do you think of the chances if all 3 niner QB's don't live up to expectations... and Warner is still hungry for a starting gig... do the stars line up and he heads to the Bay?

Leinhart would have to demonstrate he's capable of leading the team before the Cards would let Warner go... and I'm not sure they would let him go to a division rival... but it would be interesting.

Does anyone know the contract / cap status? Could this even happen?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Stop.

 

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Using a rather misleading title such as this is not a good way to kick off your membership...

 

[sfl49er]

This isn't based on anything other than my wild imagination... and the fact that somehow I ended up with Gore, VD and Bryant Johnson on my fantasy team but what do you think of the chances if all 3 niner QB's don't live up to expectations... and Warner is still hungry for a starting gig... do the stars line up and he heads to the Bay? Leinhart would have to demonstrate he's capable of leading the team before the Cards would let Warner go... and I'm not sure they would let him go to a division rival... but it would be interesting. Does anyone know the contract / cap status? Could this even happen?

Alex Smith is going to rise to the oocasion this year. Last year, Warner showed that he' ll make some bad decisions and he threw some bad balls on the replays I've seen. Warner doesn't look good. I think hes losing some zip. He cant beat out Lienart for the starting job in AZ. And I think Alex will be better than Lienart so the 9ers should pass on that.

 

[ravnzfan]

This isn't based on anything other than my wild imagination... and the fact that somehow I ended up with Gore, VD and Bryant Johnson on my fantasy team but what do you think of the chances if all 3 niner QB's don't live up to expectations... and Warner is still hungry for a starting gig... do the stars line up and he heads to the Bay?

Leinhart would have to demonstrate he's capable of leading the team before the Cards would let Warner go... and I'm not sure they would let him go to a division rival... but it would be interesting.

Does anyone know the contract / cap status? Could this even happen?

so here's what we do when we have a question about contracts...go to:--USA Today/Sports/NFL/Salary Data Base

--type in players name

voi'la!

Warner signed a deal in '06 that paid a $3M signing bonus, w/yearly $4M salaries...cap hit was $5M in '06, tells us '08 is the 3rd yr (or last) of that deal (prorated signing bonus was $1M/yr against the cap)

so, cut him and he hits the '08 cap for a Mill, they save the salary ($4M-$5M), making that money available

but riddle me this...even if the youngster that is Matt Leinart all of a sudden looked like Steve Young, why would AZ cut loose the insurance that is Kurt Warner---how many Super Bowl MVP winning QB's are sitting around on roster somewhere, in the event the starter went down?

who backs up the young'un?

 

[Bri]

Leinart hasn't shown enough to make them comfy without Warner. That's gotta happen before he's moved.

There's alot of backup QBs in the NFL that probably could be had for the right price, none of which likely have the talent of Alex Smith. They're going to have to "see it thru" with Alex.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Leinart hasn't shown enough to make them comfy without Warner. That's gotta happen before he's moved.There's alot of backup QBs in the NFL that probably could be had for the right price, none of which likely have the talent of Alex Smith. They're going to have to "see it thru" with Alex.

Where is this talent ye speak of?

 

[Bri]

Leinart hasn't shown enough to make them comfy without Warner. That's gotta happen before he's moved.There's alot of backup QBs in the NFL that probably could be had for the right price, none of which likely have the talent of Alex Smith. They're going to have to "see it thru" with Alex.

Where is this talent ye speak of?

is that you Nolan?

 

[TheFanatic]

but riddle me this...even if the youngster that is Matt Leinart all of a sudden looked like Steve Young, why would AZ cut loose the insurance that is Kurt Warner---how many Super Bowl MVP winning QB's are sitting around on roster somewhere, in the event the starter went down?

who backs up the young'un?

This is it. Unless SF offered something ridiculous like a 1st rounder and they couldn't pass it up, then they might do it, but there is no way SF makes it that worthwhile.

 

[cacksman]

This is it. Unless SF offered something ridiculous like a 1st rounder and they couldn't pass it up, then they might do it, but there is no way SF makes it that worthwhile.

You've gotta be kidding me. Arizona would accept A LOT less than a 1st rounder for Warner.

 

[FUBAR]

This is it. Unless SF offered something ridiculous like a 1st rounder and they couldn't pass it up, then they might do it, but there is no way SF makes it that worthwhile.

You've gotta be kidding me. Arizona would accept A LOT less than a 1st rounder for Warner.

but only if they also gained a backup QB in the process - whether a FA or whatever.

Alex Smith is going to rise to the oocasion this year. Last year, Warner showed that he' ll make some bad decisions and he threw some bad balls on the replays I've seen. Warner doesn't look good. I think hes losing some zip. He cant beat out Lienart for the starting job in AZ. And I think Alex will be better than Lienart so the 9ers should pass on that.

Warner played well last year, but there's no way any team makes a trade for him at this point. Even if Smith doesn't rise to the occasion, Hill isn't a bad option. I guarantee any team will prefer Hill and a pick to Warner.

 

[TheFanatic]

This is it. Unless SF offered something ridiculous like a 1st rounder and they couldn't pass it up, then they might do it, but there is no way SF makes it that worthwhile.

You've gotta be kidding me. Arizona would accept A LOT less than a 1st rounder for Warner.

No, I don't think so. They would need enough to convince them that they can go it with just Lienart at QB. That's tough. It's not like Matt has proven he can be either durable or consistent. They would need enough to be motivated to deal with the hassle of having to go out and get another QB that can back up Leinart.

 

[Couch Potato]

Cardinals are going to hammer out an extension on Warner's contract this offseason most likely. They want Leinart to be their guy long term but don't feel secure in him at this point, and Warner is very important insurance for them. They believe they can contend this year and would not risk leaving themselves nekkid at backup QB, given the uncertainty with their starter. And even if they did move Warner, it sure wouldn't be to a team in their division to join forces with the OC and the system that made him a league MVP. No way.

 

[sfl49er]

Leinart hasn't shown enough to make them comfy without Warner. That's gotta happen before he's moved.There's alot of backup QBs in the NFL that probably could be had for the right price, none of which likely have the talent of Alex Smith. They're going to have to "see it thru" with Alex.

Amen to that Brother!

 

[cacksman]

This is it. Unless SF offered something ridiculous like a 1st rounder and they couldn't pass it up, then they might do it, but there is no way SF makes it that worthwhile.

You've gotta be kidding me. Arizona would accept A LOT less than a 1st rounder for Warner.

No, I don't think so. They would need enough to convince them that they can go it with just Lienart at QB. That's tough. It's not like Matt has proven he can be either durable or consistent. They would need enough to be motivated to deal with the hassle of having to go out and get another QB that can back up Leinart.

Dude, you are wrong. Warner will not be the guy to take them to the Super Bowl. Leinart is their future. At most Warner would play 2 mediocre seasons for Arizona. If someone offered a 4th rounder for Warner, they would jump on it.

 

[sfl49er]

This is it. Unless SF offered something ridiculous like a 1st rounder and they couldn't pass it up, then they might do it, but there is no way SF makes it that worthwhile.

You've gotta be kidding me. Arizona would accept A LOT less than a 1st rounder for Warner.

No, I don't think so. They would need enough to convince them that they can go it with just Lienart at QB. That's tough. It's not like Matt has proven he can be either durable or consistent. They would need enough to be motivated to deal with the hassle of having to go out and get another QB that can back up Leinart.

Dude, you are wrong. Warner will not be the guy to take them to the Super Bowl. Leinart is their future. At most Warner would play 2 mediocre seasons for Arizona. If someone offered a 4th rounder for Warner, they would jump on it.

No favorites here, but I disagree. Because teams realize there could be injury. Involving these two players, there was injury last year and the Cards had to go to Warner. Why do you get rid of a reliable backup, very reliable, when all teams desire a reliable backup?! Warner is going to have to retire or be traded for -at the very least- a second round pick + another player to get out of Az.

 

[TheFanatic]

This is it. Unless SF offered something ridiculous like a 1st rounder and they couldn't pass it up, then they might do it, but there is no way SF makes it that worthwhile.

You've gotta be kidding me. Arizona would accept A LOT less than a 1st rounder for Warner.

No, I don't think so. They would need enough to convince them that they can go it with just Lienart at QB. That's tough. It's not like Matt has proven he can be either durable or consistent. They would need enough to be motivated to deal with the hassle of having to go out and get another QB that can back up Leinart.

Dude, you are wrong. Warner will not be the guy to take them to the Super Bowl. Leinart is their future. At most Warner would play 2 mediocre seasons for Arizona. If someone offered a 4th rounder for Warner, they would jump on it.

No favorites here, but I disagree. Because teams realize there could be injury. Involving these two players, there was injury last year and the Cards had to go to Warner. Why do you get rid of a reliable backup, very reliable, when all teams desire a reliable backup?! Warner is going to have to retire or be traded for -at the very least- a second round pick + another player to get out of Az.

Exactly. No way they dump Warner who is a proven winner, including a SB winner, and have no one to back up Leinart who isn't the model of health either...I'm not saying Warner is worth a 1. I'm saying that some team would have to overpay for him to get the Cards to move him.

 

[Da Guru]

Warner is a FF stud. If your league does not deduct points for TOs

The guys can throw for 300-2 in his sleep, plus he fumbles and throws picks to keep the other team scoring as well.