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I want to open a deli (1 Viewer)

Scoresman

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I've always dreamed of opening my own deli, so I could sell sandwiches while eating them at the same time. what kind of money do I need to get such a business up and running?

 
I guess where i live. san francisco. people tell me there's no good jewish deli in sf but im not jewish so i was thinking more of an italian deli. like the kind where they have salami and prosciutto hanging from the walls.

 
I guess where i live. san francisco. people tell me there's no good jewish deli in sf but im not jewish so i was thinking more of an italian deli. like the kind where they have salami and prosciutto hanging from the walls.
So you're probably good at handling meat already?

That will help.

 
I've always dreamed of opening my own deli, so I could sell sandwiches while eating them at the same time. what kind of money do I need to get such a business up and running?
My ex-wife and her new husband took a loan of $50,000 against our house (that I gave her)..and went belly up in about 6 months......

 
San Francisco....so I'm assuming you'll charge about $20 a sandwich?
you can get a good sandwich here for $6. Some places do charge as much as $12-13 though. the chicken parm sandwich im about to go pickup for lunch is 8.99
Very tough place to open a brick & mortar deli. There are still a handful of old time Italian delis in North Beach and the Mission (Lucca) but costs of floorspace and labor are much higher than normal. Moishe's Pippic was one of the better Jewish delis in the city but it just closed after a long run because their rent went through the roof.

Have you thought about a food truck?

 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli

 
I had a boss who agreed to bankroll his son in opening a bagel shop/deli in Cumberland, Maryland, of all places. It lasted about 9 months and cost my boss over $75K and no end of aggravation. :shrug:

 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

Yo, dis iz breffess.

 
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Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?


 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?
It's served with the tears of New York Jet fans.

 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?
It's not pretentious, and I wouldn't doubt that you can get these in other areas of the East Coast. But honestly, I've been a ton of places where it simply is not a common item.

 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?
It's not pretentious, and I wouldn't doubt that you can get these in other areas of the East Coast. But honestly, I've been a ton of places where it simply is not a common item.
Is it the Kaiser roll vs a Bagel that makes it unique?

 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?
It's served with the tears of New York Jet fans.
:lol:

 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?
It's not pretentious, and I wouldn't doubt that you can get these in other areas of the East Coast. But honestly, I've been a ton of places where it simply is not a common item.
Is it the Kaiser roll vs a Bagel that makes it unique?
Who knows. Im freestylin' here.

 
Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?
It's not pretentious, and I wouldn't doubt that you can get these in other areas of the East Coast. But honestly, I've been a ton of places where it simply is not a common item.
Is it the Kaiser roll vs a Bagel that makes it unique?
There's nothing unique about it other than they are offered far more often in NYC than any other place in the country. That was my experience.

Every deli/convenience store sells these things.

You just get used to it living in NY. It's regional in that they sell it/offer it more here but there's nothing proprietary to NYC about it. They aren't famous for it, it's not even really that good :shrug: (kinda like the Cheesesteak or Soft Pretzel here in Philly....you can get one everywhere but it's more omnipresent here)

 
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Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy. :thumbup:

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli
What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?
It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28imbeo.jpg
So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?
It's not pretentious, and I wouldn't doubt that you can get these in other areas of the East Coast. But honestly, I've been a ton of places where it simply is not a common item.
Is it the Kaiser roll vs a Bagel that makes it unique?
There's nothing unique about it other than they are offered far more often in NYC than any other place in the country. That was my experience.

Every deli/convenience store sells these things.

You just get used to it living in NY. It's regional in that they sell it/offer it more here but there's nothing proprietary to NYC about it. They aren't famous for it, it's not even really that good :shrug: (kinda like the Cheesesteak or Soft Pretzel here in Philly....you can get one everywhere but it's more omnipresent here)
Pretty much. It's a simple pleasure.... and I dont know why it's not more prevelant elsewhere but that's been my experience.

 
Make it a deli/massage parlor.

You get quality meats on a sandwich and then a quality rub out.What's not to like?

 
Financially figure out how much it will take to pay all the bills and make no money the first 18 to 24 months. Because unless you just hit it out of the park with a location that's how long you can figure it taking to get going. I know Tips is blowing that curve but he is the exception not the rule. Most new restaurants trace their failure to under capitalization as a major culprit in that failure. And really that applies to any start up. That's why franchisee's usually require so much liquid capital for you to get in.

 
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Financially figure out how much it will take to pay all the bills and make no money the first 18 to 24 months. Because unless you just hit it out of the park with a location that's how long you can figure it taking to get going. I know Tips is blowing that curve but he is the exception not the rule. Most new restaurants trace their failure to under capitalization as a major culprit in that failure. And really that applies to any start up. That's why franchisee's usually require so much liquid capital for you to get in.
That said, I'll say this is as a on the wealthy side fat guy (and I'm sure Otis would agree with me here).

Have better food than any competitors and no one really cares how much you charge. Bring in at least a chef consultant to design the menu and go for the more natural/premium ingredients...you will knock it out of the park.

If you set up with delusions of grandeur making Reubens with store bought low end bologna and pre packaged macaroni salad, you are done.

Make it homeade, use good ingredients and give the people something they will want to come back for.

 
One thing I always thought would be a good niche would be to open a deli that serves the usual deli stuff but have a menu that features potato chips on sandwiches.

Figure out what sandwich and flavor of potato chip go good together and put the chips ON the sandwich. Would be a great kitchy idea that I haven't seen done before and chips on a sandwich rule.

I would suggest Plain Ruffles on Tuna. Heavenly.

 
One thing I always thought would be a good niche would be to open a deli that serves the usual deli stuff but have a menu that features potato chips on sandwiches.

Figure out what sandwich and flavor of potato chip go good together and put the chips ON the sandwich. Would be a great kitchy idea that I haven't seen done before and chips on a sandwich rule.

I would suggest Plain Ruffles on Tuna. Heavenly.
Oh...and don't forget the chicks in Yoga pants.

Blond co-ed in yoga pants + chips on a sandwich = "uhm is this place heaven or just Scoreman's deli?"

 

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