I want to open a deli (1 Viewer)

[Scoresman]

what is it with philly and their terrible choices when it comes to cheese.

 

[Koya]

This thread reminds me of my goto lunch back in high school before I could drive - The Viking Deli (our mascot) across from the high school.

A large shells (pasta) in sauce and two buttered rolls.

Nothing like a cheap carb loading pasta sammich/ dipping

 

[John Bender]

This thread reminds me of my goto lunch back in high school before I could drive - The Viking Deli (our mascot) across from the high school.

A large shells (pasta) in sauce and two buttered rolls.

Nothing like a cheap carb loading pasta sammich/ dipping

F'N THIS!!!!!!

 

[MC Gas Money]

If you do open a deli please dont be one of those crap joints that dont know what it means to cut cold cuts thinly.

 

[MC Gas Money]

what is it with philly and their terrible choices when it comes to cheese.

Are you referring to the cheese whiz that some people put on their steak sandwiches?

If so I agree it is terrible. In fact, I dont think cheese whiz is good for anything.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Financially figure out how much it will take to pay all the bills and make no money the first 18 to 24 months. Because unless you just hit it out of the park with a location that's how long you can figure it taking to get going. I know Tips is blowing that curve but he is the exception not the rule. Most new restaurants trace their failure to under capitalization as a major culprit in that failure. And really that applies to any start up. That's why franchisee's usually require so much liquid capital for you to get in.

That said, I'll say this is as a on the wealthy side fat guy (and I'm sure Otis would agree with me here).Have better food than any competitors and no one really cares how much you charge. Bring in at least a chef consultant to design the menu and go for the more natural/premium ingredients...you will knock it out of the park.

If you set up with delusions of grandeur making Reubens with store bought low end bologna and pre packaged macaroni salad, you are done.

Make it homeade, use good ingredients and give the people something they will want to come back for.

100% correct.

 

[Freelove]

what is it with philly and their terrible choices when it comes to cheese.

Are you referring to the cheese whiz that some people put on their steak sandwiches?

If so I agree it is terrible. In fact, I dont think cheese whiz is good for anything.

Au contraire.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

will they even let you open a deli with your warning level so high?

FBG mods get subs half off!

Looks like you need to quit cursin'and ####.

 

[MC Gas Money]

I've always dreamed of opening my own deli, so I could sell sandwiches while eating them at the same time. what kind of money do I need to get such a business up and running?

My ex-wife and her new husband took a loan of $50,000 against our house (that I gave her)..and went belly up in about 6 months......

I bet thinking about that always cheers you up.

 

[NCCommish]

Financially figure out how much it will take to pay all the bills and make no money the first 18 to 24 months. Because unless you just hit it out of the park with a location that's how long you can figure it taking to get going. I know Tips is blowing that curve but he is the exception not the rule. Most new restaurants trace their failure to under capitalization as a major culprit in that failure. And really that applies to any start up. That's why franchisee's usually require so much liquid capital for you to get in.

That said, I'll say this is as a on the wealthy side fat guy (and I'm sure Otis would agree with me here).

Have better food than any competitors and no one really cares how much you charge. Bring in at least a chef consultant to design the menu and go for the more natural/premium ingredients...you will knock it out of the park.

If you set up with delusions of grandeur making Reubens with store bought low end bologna and pre packaged macaroni salad, you are done.

Make it homeade, use good ingredients and give the people something they will want to come back for.

All good suggestions

 

[MC Gas Money]

i want my deli to look like this one. its in bologna italy. i visited there a couple years ago when i took a trip to the old country.

I got the gout just looking at the photos

 

[Scoresman]

If you do open a deli please dont be one of those crap joints that dont know what it means to cut cold cuts thinly.

all my lunchmeat will be thin or shaved. if people dont like it that way, they can get the #### out of my deli.

 

[MC Gas Money]

If you do open a deli please dont be one of those crap joints that dont know what it means to cut cold cuts thinly.

all my lunchmeat will be thin or shaved. if people dont like it that way, they can get the #### out of my deli.

Personally I like my cappy ham with a landing strip, but to each his own.

 

[El Floppo]

egg and bacon on a kaiser roll is the breakfast of the gods and i will absolutely be selling it.

and cheese.

 

[El Floppo]

and you have to say "make it nice" when you're yelling the order at the guys behind the counter.

 

[Wild Young Billy]

The hard roll used for NY Style sandwiches or just regular buttered rolls in NJ/ NY are different everywhere else. I can't find a good hard roll anywhere but around there. Be choosy with your bakery.

 

[NutterButter]

The hard roll used for NY Style sandwiches or just regular buttered rolls in NJ/ NY are different everywhere else. I can't find a good hard roll anywhere but around there. Be choosy with your bakery.

Absolutely. Good, fresh bread is essential in a sandwich. Do not under any circumstances settle for anything but fresh bread.

 

[shadyridr]

Ive never heard of bacon, egg, and cheese on a roll called a NY style breakfast sandwich and i live in ####### NY

 

[Koya]

Ive never heard of bacon, egg, and cheese on a roll called a NY style breakfast sandwich and i live in ####### NY

I wouldnt say its "called" that. Didnt know a better description. Here its just a breakfast sandwich (and is often ordered, as you say it, a bacon, egg (and cheese - possibly sausage too or in lieu of the bacon, or... ham. Mmmmmmm ham.

 

[MC Gas Money]

get a sbarro franchise

/thread

It's where I get my pizza in NY

Where do you go for lobster? Golden corral?

 

[Binky The Doormat]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

These words do not go together.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

get a sbarro franchise

/thread

It's where I get my pizza in NY

Are you also the World's Greatest Boss?

 

[shadyridr]

Ive never heard of bacon, egg, and cheese on a roll called a NY style breakfast sandwich and i live in ####### NY

I wouldnt say its "called" that. Didnt know a better description. Here its just a breakfast sandwich (and is often ordered, as you say it, a bacon, egg (and cheese - possibly sausage too or in lieu of the bacon, or... ham. Mmmmmmm ham.

ok so th dont make these elsewhere? Im baffled

 

[Wingnut]

Go food truck. Cheaper to start and you can go where the people are. If successful you can finance your brick and mortar with the money you make after a few years.

 

[Koya]

Ive never heard of bacon, egg, and cheese on a roll called a NY style breakfast sandwich and i live in ####### NY

I wouldnt say its "called" that. Didnt know a better description. Here its just a breakfast sandwich (and is often ordered, as you say it, a bacon, egg (and cheese - possibly sausage too or in lieu of the bacon, or... ham. Mmmmmmm ham.

ok so th dont make these elsewhere? Im baffled

You'd think it would be available. For the most part, its not. :shuked:

 

[Eephus]

Go food truck. Cheaper to start and you can go where the people are. If successful you can finance your brick and mortar with the money you make after a few years.

With a food truck, Scoresman can open a deli and run over bicyclists simultaneously

 

[Freelove]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

These words do not go together.

You some kinda taqueria snob?

 

[Otis]

Sounds like a novel business idea.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

If that were your mom or your grandmom wouldn't you want to beat this kid to death?

 

[Slapdash]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

I guess he has already lost the market for people without tastebuds.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

These words do not go together.

You some kinda taqueria snob?

Yes, not putting Subway with the phrase "perfectly good" kinda makes me snobby.

 

[Michael Brown]

I'm just saying, if I WERE your accountant...

 

[Freaky Styley]

Eminence can guide you to a no-fail business plan and strategy.

PS - if you don't gots NY style breakfast sammiches it ain't no deli

What's a NY style breakfast sandwich?

It's hardly rocket science. And the egg can be made anyway you want. I'm shocked how few regions have this simple delight. The kaiser (kai-zah) role, fresh and soft, is essential.

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So a fried egg on a kaiser roll? We have these all over the place in MA...what makes it NY Style (other than the pretentious factor of calling a common sandwich "NY Style")?

I worked for a guy originally from Hackensack that made these in a small food shack at the local drive-in. They had a flea market on the weekends and all he would sell from 6am till noon was New York style breakfast sammiches and coffee and he absolutely killed it.

The dude was a retired concierge from the casinos in AC and Reno, and he personally attended to all the big entertainers in the 60's. He would entertain the customers with stories of who among his celebrity patrons was a lousy gambler, who was schtuping who back in the day, mob business, I heard it all. He had signed photos of Sinatra, Dino, Elvis, hanging on the walls and blasted Count Basie, Dino, Sinatra all morning long. The place wasn't fancy but it had a lot of character and all the flea market regulars in the bay area would stop and eat.

This proves that if your setup in a good location, with a simple, unique, tasty deli menu with friendly service you can make it.

 

[Premier]

Had Carneige for lunch. Can you make pastrami that good?

If so, then yes you should open a deli.

 

[Eephus]

Had Carneige for lunch. Can you make pastrami that good?

If so, then yes you should open a deli.

Half sour pickles. Mmmm

 

[Premier]

Had Carneige for lunch. Can you make pastrami that good?

If so, then yes you should open a deli.

Half sour pickles. Mmmm

Really really good. Tried the knish too. Damn.

 

[timschochet]

If you've never done this before, there is a good chance you will fail.

But- you never know. In the 20+ years that I've worked in commercial real estate, I've helped open up dozens of new restaurants, sandwich shops, pizza joints, etc. Some have customers from day one, despite their locations being not so good. Others are in the best possible location, but they can't get anybody to show up for some reason.

Anyhow, here is the advice I give every new restaurant person I work with: calculate all your costs for two years. That includes build out, total rent and CAM charges, utilities, insurance, maintenance of equipment, wages, food and paper costs. Since you're working there, assign yourself a salary, enough for you to live on, and calculate that in too. The total is the amount that you need to get started. You will NOT make any money the first year, and it is extremely unlikely that you will make any money the second year. If you break even, then you will be a success. If after two years you are not at least breaking even, then it's time to quit. But HEED THIS ADVICE- put two years of your expenses in the bank. If you don't have enough on hand for two years of expenses, then don't start this business. If you do start it without those savings in the bank, you'll not only fail but you'll be forced to go into debt and your failure will hurt you for years to come.

 

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NY STYLE soda?

 

[NutterButter]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

These words do not go together.

You some kinda taqueria snob?

You might be the only person on this board to describe Subway as "perfectly good"

 

[El Floppo]

Ive never heard of bacon, egg, and cheese on a roll called a NY style breakfast sandwich and i live in ####### NY

I wouldnt say its "called" that. Didnt know a better description. Here its just a breakfast sandwich (and is often ordered, as you say it, a bacon, egg (and cheese - possibly sausage too or in lieu of the bacon, or... ham. Mmmmmmm ham.

yeah agree- if I asked for a NY Breakfast sandwich, the bodega guy would

"Breakfast sandwich" and he's all over that ####.

"Breakfast sandwich", IME most other places has the guy behind the counter asking me what kind of breakfast sandwich. So in that way, it's a NY Breakfast sandwich.

 

[El Floppo]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

These words do not go together.

You some kinda taqueria snob?

You might be the only person on this board to describe Subway as "perfectly good"

Subway, where their freshly baked bread smells identical to vomit- which somehow isn't part of their ad campaigns.

 

[El Floppo]

Scoresman- what neighborhood are thinking about for the deli?

 

[DreamTheater]

egg and bacon on a kaiser roll is the breakfast of the gods and i will absolutely be selling it.

Make it Pork Roll with American Cheese and I'm in.

Correct. This is the classic.

Taylor Ham, Egg and Cheese on an everything bagel...spk

 

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NY STYLE hamburger?

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

It costs Subway about 31 cents to make a foot long. Will your 4 inch shaved meat measure up?

 

[NutterButter]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

These words do not go together.

You some kinda taqueria snob?

You might be the only person on this board to describe Subway as "perfectly good"

Subway, where their freshly baked bread smells identical to vomit- which somehow isn't part of their ad campaigns.

Come choose from our assortment of aged veggies.

 

[Koya]

NY STYLE hamburger?

As El F pointed out, if I order a hamburger, regardless where I am they know exactly what I mean. If I order a breakfast sandwich I'll get a weird look and then asked what kind.

 

[El Floppo]

NY STYLE hamburger?

where you live, if you ask for a breakfast sandwich they know exactly what you're talking about... or do you have to spell it out for them?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Just checking in to see if he's out of business yet?

 

[Freelove]

No idea why I'd go there when there's a perfectly good Subway next door.

These words do not go together.

You some kinda taqueria snob?

You might be the only person on this board to describe Subway as "perfectly good"

They gotta be doing something right if I have to stand in line to get a sandwich there, but could walk straight up to the counter of this so called "deli" without any wait at all.