If Brady Quinn Gets Past Cleveland, How Far Does He Fall? (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

Minnesota?

Miami?

Carolina?

FARTHER?

The more I talk to draft experts, the more I think Quinn could tumble. I just can't figure out where the slide will stop. There's a school of thought that Quinn's pro day really rehabilitated his stock, but there are also some very sure things at positions of need that are likely to be available for all these teams. Maybe Cleveland takes Quinn to be the new face of the franchise, but that could also yet again set the franchise back if he fails. Can they afford a somewhat risky player at #3 after all the hardship the franchise has endured lately?

So, what do you think? Where is Quinn going to go?

 

[Davej626]

Bloom, just a general question here. Why would he fall so far? What is the thoughts behind the scene as to why a team in need of a QB wouldn't take Quinn? Minnesota for example, I can see not taking him because of the money required. I know that it is all slotted and everything, but one of the reasons why Johnson left was because they didn't want to spend the money on a qb. If Quinn is there when they pick, that has to come up in the draft room. So that may explain why Minnesota may pass, but what other teams like Miami, or Detriot? TIA!

Is there something that they know that isn't common knowledge? Or is it just a timing thing where teams have other needs/wants than a first round qb?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Bloom, just a general question here. Why would he fall so far? What is the thoughts behind the scene as to why a team in need of a QB wouldn't take Quinn? Minnesota for example, I can see not taking him because of the money required. I know that it is all slotted and everything, but one of the reasons why Johnson left was because they didn't want to spend the money on a qb. If Quinn is there when they pick, that has to come up in the draft room.

It's not that they didn't want to spend $$$ on a QB. It's that they didn't want to spend it on a QB that's older than Methuselah.I would have to think the fall would stop at Miami.The nightmare scenario for the Quinn camp would be all the way to Jacksonville.

 

[brewer]

I don't think Quinn makes it to Cleveland, let alone past them. But the question at hand is how far does he fall. Not far in my opinion. In fact, I think Tampa would take him to sit behind Garcia for a year.

 

[brewer]

Can they afford a somewhat risky player at #3

By the way, other than Calvin Johnson, what player is without risk?

 

[prymetyme25]

I'll admit I unfairly judged Quinn and thought he was all hype. A few reasons why:

1. I thought the whole Charlie Weis magic worker thing was overblown.

2. The Texans needed a QB and with all our needs I did not want him. (I'm kinda Quirky like that when people started saying we should draft him) Made me not like him.

3. I dont value Qbs to highly especially non athletic one.

4. Plus I hate pretty boy QBs reminded me of Carr

But.........

After seeing him at the Combine and his physique. WOW not you average QB.

Then after hearing him talk football and actually watching him play I changed my mind completely. I think Russell and him are Franchise qbs and I dont see him sliding nor do I see Russell sliding either.

I give them both Top 10 if not Top 5 grade. Matter of Fact I wouldn't see why a team like TB wouldn't Consider him since they have Garcia and could sit him a year. (if Johnson is off the board)

 

[Rounders]

Quinn will be playing in Minnesota next year.....call it a gut feeling.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Is there something that they know that isn't common knowledge? Or is it just a timing thing where teams have other needs/wants than a first round qb?

The main question I keep hearing is about his accuracy downfield. His pro day might have quelled these fears, but most of the draft experts we've talked to have said his accuracy on longer throws is much more of a blemish on his profile than his record in big games.

 

[Marc Faletti]

Is there something that they know that isn't common knowledge? Or is it just a timing thing where teams have other needs/wants than a first round qb?

The main question I keep hearing is about his accuracy downfield. His pro day might have quelled these fears, but most of the draft experts we've talked to have said his accuracy on longer throws is much more of a blemish on his profile than his record in big games.

Yeah, and the latter doesn't help. Unless you're already stacked, a first round pick should probably be someone you're nearly certain will be a big help to your team. It doesn't have to be immediately, but you've really got to believe someday he IS the answer. Based on his spotty track record against defenses with NFL talent, I can understand why some people believe Quinn is a Fool's Golden Domer.

 

[nygiants56]

Minnesota?Miami?Carolina?FARTHER?The more I talk to draft experts, the more I think Quinn could tumble. I just can't figure out where the slide will stop. There's a school of thought that Quinn's pro day really rehabilitated his stock, but there are also some very sure things at positions of need that are likely to be available for all these teams. Maybe Cleveland takes Quinn to be the new face of the franchise, but that could also yet again set the franchise back if he fails. Can they afford a somewhat risky player at #3 after all the hardship the franchise has endured lately?So, what do you think? Where is Quinn going to go?

just a hunch, I think he has a Leinart-sized fall. Teams look thru his 'smoke-n-mirrors' 2006 season. He played to the level of his opponents. Threw for 5 tds against Mi. State, yet was intercepted on the first play from scrimmage against Michigan, and wound up getting trounced in that game. Stunk up the joint against Usc and Ohio State. Beat the daylights out of the 'lesser' schools that are lacking in talent. He's not going to be playing Air Force in the NFL, afterall, and that's what worries me about him. Of COURSE Charlie Weiss is going to say the dude is 'pro ready' and 'the best QB he's coached NOT named Brady', what do you expect Weiss to say, 'he's good in a blowout game or against high school teams, but against the better collegiate programs, he sucks'. Sporting News pre-draft magazine , has Quinn ranked as nothing more than a 3rd rounder.They feel he's the 52nd best collegiate player entering the draft, but that he's worth even less than that, a 3rd round pick.If we took the Notre Dame nat'l TV contract out of the equation ( broad coverage and loads of publicity for him), and the fact that he plays at perhaps the most recognizable school with a storied history/tradition at a the same position that produced arguably the best QB of all-time ( Montana), would we still rank Quinn as high? I don't think so.just my two cents. I think he's Joey Harrington, 2.0. Quinn has gets a lot of hype just by playing the QB position at ND..like Rick Mirer, I think he's going to be a big time bust..

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Sporting News pre-draft magazine , has Quinn ranked as nothing more than a 3rd rounder.They feel he's the 52nd best collegiate player entering the draft, but that he's worth even less than that, a 3rd round pick.

thanks for the reply - we interviewed Russ Lande yesterday for the Audible, the main writer of the Sporting News Draft Guide, and we asked him to talk about that ranking. It definitely left us

 

[Jayded]

just a hunch, I think he has a Leinart-sized fall. Teams look thru his 'smoke-n-mirrors' 2006 season. He played to the level of his opponents. Threw for 5 tds against Mi. State, yet was intercepted on the first play from scrimmage against Michigan, and wound up getting trounced in that game. Stunk up the joint against Usc and Ohio State. Beat the daylights out of the 'lesser' schools that are lacking in talent. He's not going to be playing Air Force in the NFL, afterall, and that's what worries me about him.

Of COURSE Charlie Weiss is going to say the dude is 'pro ready' and 'the best QB he's coached NOT named Brady', what do you expect Weiss to say, 'he's good in a blowout game or against high school teams, but against the better collegiate programs, he sucks'.

- First is incorrect. He was intercepted on his second pass attempt and it was John Carlson's (TE) fault. It hit him in the hands and he popped it up in the air for Burgess to intercept.- 22/45 for 274 yards, 3 TDs, 0 Int, 74 yards rushing...is stinking up the joint behind the 2006 ND offensive line? Simply put, they were offensive all year long.

I will agree the biggest question mark I'd put on him is his downfield accuracy at times. I was at the Navy game, though, and more than once he had perfectly accurate downfield throws.

I'd be most concerned about the situation he's put in. If he's expected to start from day 1 for a franchise that will not protect him, he won't succeed. He's a very heady guy. Very smart QB and student of the game, and at times he can get caught up too much in his head. When he lets it rip and becomes a gunslinger, he does very well.

 

[redman]

I will agree the biggest question mark I'd put on him is his downfield accuracy at times. I was at the Navy game, though, and more than once he had perfectly accurate downfield throws.

Ah, so we can rest easy then.