If Colts win Suck For Luck would Luck stay in school? (1 Viewer)

[ppierce]

Assume Manning is ok and can play another 3-5 years no problem, would Luck really want to risk sitting on the bench for 4 years? That would really suck for Luck.

I think he could seriuosly contemplate staying in school if thats the case. However, I could also see him telling the Colts that if they plan on retaining him, he'll stay in school, so don't bother. Thus forcing Colts to trade the pick for a kings ransom.

 

[FavreCo]

No. Next question.

 

[rizzler]

... or spend a year or two learning from one of the best QBs of all time...

re: Rodgers/Favre situation.

 

[Deamon]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted. And no way he plays college next year. It was surprising he did this year, but with lockout looming and wanting to play one more year to polish skills, there's no chance he risks breaking his leg next year in college and throwing away millions of dollars and getting an office job. Luck is going pro no matter who drafts him.

 

[butcher boy]

Peyton Manning's neck injury is not going to go away and his career will be over sooner rather than later. Going to the Colts and learning from Manning would be the best possible place for Luck to end up.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted.

He will know who wins the Suck For Luck contest before he has to declare.

 

[Joe Summer]

What if he goes back to school and then the Packers somehow end up with the 2013 #1 pick?

A better solution would be to hold out and then force the Colts to trade him to the Broncos.

 

[DoubleG]

... or spend a year or two learning from one of the best QBs of all time...re: Rodgers/Favre situation.

This...and it's not close. In fact, this would be a scenario most young QBs would HOPE to have happen. He'd rather go...? To the Dolphins and pcik the brain of Chad Henne? If I'm Luck, I'd be praying every day that Indy goes 0-16.

 

[Deamon]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted.

He will know who wins the Suck For Luck contest before he has to declare.

Yes but he won't know about trade offers. You don't sit there with Indy having the top pick and just go back to school because you don't want to go there. Thats the most ridiculous suggestion for the most highly touted qb coming out of college in years. If Indy gets pick #1, I say there's a 50/50 shot that they trade the pick anyways and he could go somewhere and start.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

... or spend a year or two learning from one of the best QBs of all time...re: Rodgers/Favre situation.

This...and it's not close. In fact, this would be a scenario most young QBs would HOPE to have happen. He'd rather go...? To the Dolphins and pcik the brain of Chad Henne? If I'm Luck, I'd be praying every day that Indy goes 0-16.

Then he would have to live in Indianapolis for the next XX years. I would be hoping that Denver or Miami got the pick myself. Both probably have equal or better talent at the positions other than QB to Indianapolis.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted.

He will know who wins the Suck For Luck contest before he has to declare.

Yes but he won't know about trade offers. You don't sit there with Indy having the top pick and just go back to school because you don't want to go there. Thats the most ridiculous suggestion for the most highly touted qb coming out of college in years. If Indy gets pick #1, I say there's a 50/50 shot that they trade the pick anyways and he could go somewhere and start.

I didn't say he would say that. I was just responding that he will know who has the pick and that it was never discussed that he would have an agent or get drafted before obtaining that information.I say there is about a 5% chance the #1 pick gets traded. It used to be because of the financial obligation. Now it will be because no owner/GM wants to be the guy that traded the next John Elway.

 

[Deamon]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted.

He will know who wins the Suck For Luck contest before he has to declare.

Yes but he won't know about trade offers. You don't sit there with Indy having the top pick and just go back to school because you don't want to go there. Thats the most ridiculous suggestion for the most highly touted qb coming out of college in years. If Indy gets pick #1, I say there's a 50/50 shot that they trade the pick anyways and he could go somewhere and start.

I didn't say he would say that. I was just responding that he will know who has the pick and that it was never discussed that he would have an agent or get drafted before obtaining that information.I say there is about a 5% chance the #1 pick gets traded. It used to be because of the financial obligation. Now it will be because no owner/GM wants to be the guy that traded the next John Elway.

So you are saying if the Rams got the first pick they would keep it?

 

[Deamon]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted.

He will know who wins the Suck For Luck contest before he has to declare.

Yes but he won't know about trade offers. You don't sit there with Indy having the top pick and just go back to school because you don't want to go there. Thats the most ridiculous suggestion for the most highly touted qb coming out of college in years. If Indy gets pick #1, I say there's a 50/50 shot that they trade the pick anyways and he could go somewhere and start.

I didn't say he would say that. I was just responding that he will know who has the pick and that it was never discussed that he would have an agent or get drafted before obtaining that information.I say there is about a 5% chance the #1 pick gets traded. It used to be because of the financial obligation. Now it will be because no owner/GM wants to be the guy that traded the next John Elway.

Given the potential talent of Luck, I think that hurts and helps the argument that the pick will be traded. The offers for that #1 pick will be insane. The only reason I think Indy will trade it, is not because they wouldn't love to have Luck, but because the offers might be too good to turn down. Like I could see a team like Seattle or San Fran giving up 3 first rounders to move up to get him. And if St. Louis gets him, imagine having bradford plus 6 first round picks in the next 3 years, and having a clause in the trade agreement of the team you trade it to, that he can't be traded to Seattle or San Fran or Arizona. St Louis getting that top pick would be so huge for their franchise.

 

[rizzler]

... or spend a year or two learning from one of the best QBs of all time...re: Rodgers/Favre situation.

This...and it's not close. In fact, this would be a scenario most young QBs would HOPE to have happen. He'd rather go...? To the Dolphins and pcik the brain of Chad Henne? If I'm Luck, I'd be praying every day that Indy goes 0-16.

Then he would have to live in Indianapolis for the next XX years. I would be hoping that Denver or Miami got the pick myself. Both probably have equal or better talent at the positions other than QB to Indianapolis.

You sign your rookie contract. Stay benched BUT learn from arguably the best QB to ever play the game for 1-3yrs. Once youre acclimated you have how many years left on your rookie contract before he can "leave indy" for another team? (if that's what he REALLY wanted,was to leave.. doubtful)Or, go to a club where regardless of his talent, the team surrounding him may suck to the Nth degree.. he takes the brunt of the criticism as a rookie starter. Never fully develops. Fails.He'd be a fool to not want to go to Indy. For a million and one reasons.

 

[Sweet Love]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted.

He will know who wins the Suck For Luck contest before he has to declare.

Yes but he won't know about trade offers. You don't sit there with Indy having the top pick and just go back to school because you don't want to go there. Thats the most ridiculous suggestion for the most highly touted qb coming out of college in years. If Indy gets pick #1, I say there's a 50/50 shot that they trade the pick anyways and he could go somewhere and start.

I didn't say he would say that. I was just responding that he will know who has the pick and that it was never discussed that he would have an agent or get drafted before obtaining that information.I say there is about a 5% chance the #1 pick gets traded. It used to be because of the financial obligation. Now it will be because no owner/GM wants to be the guy that traded the next John Elway.

So you are saying if the Rams got the first pick they would keep it?

The Rams are probably the one underperforming team that would "consider" trading him. Even then it would not be a lock. When you consider Miami plays in the AFC East (and against the NFC East this year), the Colts, Denver and KC, there is a small chance they find themselves at #1...and even if they do, I would be surprised if there was a package someone could put together that would make the trade worth their time. When you consider that the team that they trade Luck too would immediately get an infusion in QB talent (lets use Miami), they would trade Luck for a #2-3 overall pick in 2012, a 12-15 overall pick in 2013, and player or two and some random mid round picks...not sure that does it for one of the top 3 best QB prospects in the last 28 years.

 

[roadkill1292]

There's nothing inherently attractive about playing for the Colts. There is some evidence this season that they are a lesser-talented team carried to competitiveness on the back of their HOF QB. Besides, as Ramblin Wreck noted, you have to live in Indianapolis.

However, I think he comes out regardless of who gets the rights to draft him.

 

[Deamon]

You can't go back to school once you've hired an agent and been drafted.

He will know who wins the Suck For Luck contest before he has to declare.

Yes but he won't know about trade offers. You don't sit there with Indy having the top pick and just go back to school because you don't want to go there. Thats the most ridiculous suggestion for the most highly touted qb coming out of college in years. If Indy gets pick #1, I say there's a 50/50 shot that they trade the pick anyways and he could go somewhere and start.

I didn't say he would say that. I was just responding that he will know who has the pick and that it was never discussed that he would have an agent or get drafted before obtaining that information.I say there is about a 5% chance the #1 pick gets traded. It used to be because of the financial obligation. Now it will be because no owner/GM wants to be the guy that traded the next John Elway.

So you are saying if the Rams got the first pick they would keep it?

The Rams are probably the one underperforming team that would "consider" trading him. Even then it would not be a lock. When you consider Miami plays in the AFC East (and against the NFC East this year), the Colts, Denver and KC, there is a small chance they find themselves at #1...and even if they do, I would be surprised if there was a package someone could put together that would make the trade worth their time. When you consider that the team that they trade Luck too would immediately get an infusion in QB talent (lets use Miami), they would trade Luck for a #2-3 overall pick in 2012, a 12-15 overall pick in 2013, and player or two and some random mid round picks...not sure that does it for one of the top 3 best QB prospects in the last 28 years.

Then what do they do with Bradford? There's no way that team has Bradford and Luck next year. You're contradicting yourself though.. you're saying Luck is one of the best in 28 years and an automatic massive upgrade to most teams.... yet you don't think ANY qb needy team could put together a package that would even be "worth their time"? You also can't really factor in how high the pick is going to be. St. Louis isn't going to say "hmmm well Luck will make their team top 10 in 2 years in the nfl so that 2014 first rounder doesn't sound very good as it will obviously be a lower pick"St. Louis also plays against the NFC East, they are banged up like crazy, and look terrible. Remember, the worst record will probably have 3 wins this year give or take 1. KC and Denver are halfway there already. I see this as Indy, Miami, or St. Louis as the front runners right now based on how they've played, their remaining schedule, injuries, etc. St. Louis has so many holes and needs right now, that stockpiling picks, and making a trade that insures Luck doesn't go to Seattle or San Fran would be so great for that team. Luck is no guarentee to not get hurt, not be a bust (jamarcus, leaf, smith, etc). i agree he looks awesome and likely won't be a bust, but if you're St. Louis, you have a franchise QB right now, and Miami comes along and offers you a huge deal to move up 1 spot or 2, I don't think St. Louis passes it up, and they'll certainly do more then 'even consider it'

 

[Deamon]

There's nothing inherently attractive about playing for the Colts. There is some evidence this season that they are a lesser-talented team carried to competitiveness on the back of their HOF QB. Besides, as Ramblin Wreck noted, you have to live in Indianapolis. However, I think he comes out regardless of who gets the rights to draft him.

What was attractive to Newton about playing in Carolina? Or Jamarcus in Oakland? Or Bradford in St. Louis? Not many qbs are gonna pull an Eli Manning and be picky about where they play. Almost all first round draft picks are going to a team that was the worst team in the league the previous year... how attractive can that be? Indy has talented players, a great oganization built on winning, and a HOF Qb to learn from. Do you REALLY think Miami, Denver, Jacksonville would REALLY be a lot more attractive for Luck then going to the Colts? He's a first overall pick, he'll be happy wherever he goes, and I think he'd be just fine with going to the Colts.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Even if you could get 3 first rounders for Luck, if he does turn out to be the next Manning/Elway it'll still be a terrible trade. I would put the chances of the Colts trading the pick if they got it at 0 percent. Polian more than anyone knows the value of getting the next franchise QB and there is absolutely zero chance he'll trade it if he thinks Luck is the next guy.

 

[Late225]

Isn't Luck a senior?

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Isn't Luck a senior?

Redshirt Junior I believe

 

[Deamon]

Even if you could get 3 first rounders for Luck, if he does turn out to be the next Manning/Elway it'll still be a terrible trade. I would put the chances of the Colts trading the pick if they got it at 0 percent. Polian more than anyone knows the value of getting the next franchise QB and there is absolutely zero chance he'll trade it if he thinks Luck is the next guy.

Zero? I'd say you're a little low at zero.

 

[QuizGuy66]

That's how many $millions he won't get back if he stays another year?



-QG

 

[shnikies]

I'm guessing the NFL is hoping he goes to Miami, I think Miami becoming relevant again would be good for the game. I'm sorry this had nothing to do with the thread question.

 

[rizzler]

LOL @ the colts giving away the #1 pick.

Would a crackhead give up a golf ball sized rock for 3 pebbles?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

There's nothing inherently attractive about playing for the Colts. There is some evidence this season that they are a lesser-talented team carried to competitiveness on the back of their HOF QB. Besides, as Ramblin Wreck noted, you have to live in Indianapolis. However, I think he comes out regardless of who gets the rights to draft him.

Wrong. The Colts are considered a well run franchise and has a very good owner and GM. The Colts are considered one of the better franchises in the league.

 

[Deamon]

Even if you could get 3 first rounders for Luck, if he does turn out to be the next Manning/Elway it'll still be a terrible trade. I would put the chances of the Colts trading the pick if they got it at 0 percent. Polian more than anyone knows the value of getting the next franchise QB and there is absolutely zero chance he'll trade it if he thinks Luck is the next guy.

You can say that about anyone. If X turns out to be the next _____. 3 first rounders is great value. Especially with the class of QBs coming out this year, you could take one of them later on in the first and stockpile picks. There's still a thing called value, and EVERY player in the nfl has value. Would the Patriots trade Brady for 15 first round picks? I bet they would.

 

[butcher boy]

I'm guessing the NFL is hoping he goes to Miami, I think Miami becoming relevant again would be good for the game. I'm sorry this had nothing to do with the thread question.

Why would him ending up in Miami be any better for the game than if he ends up anywhere else? This sounds like ESPN east coast bias drivel to me.

 

[Deamon]

I'm guessing the NFL is hoping he goes to Miami, I think Miami becoming relevant again would be good for the game. I'm sorry this had nothing to do with the thread question.

Why would him ending up in Miami be any better for the game than if he ends up anywhere else? This sounds like ESPN east coast bias drivel to me.

Well Miami isn't doing the best for seats sold, etc. Jax would also really benefit from luck on a financial standpoint.

 

[roadkill1292]

There's nothing inherently attractive about playing for the Colts. There is some evidence this season that they are a lesser-talented team carried to competitiveness on the back of their HOF QB. Besides, as Ramblin Wreck noted, you have to live in Indianapolis. However, I think he comes out regardless of who gets the rights to draft him.

Wrong. The Colts are considered a well run franchise and has a very good owner and GM. The Colts are considered one of the better franchises in the league.

Jim Irsay is a fruitcake who won the birth lottery. There doesn't appear to be much talent there beyond the injured QB. And Hoosiers are fat.

 

[Deamon]

How come no ones talking about Minnesota? I know they probably won't get last place (never know though with their division), but imagine Luck an AP next year.

 

[rizzler]

There doesn't appear to be much talent there beyond the injured QB.

Repeat?

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Even if you could get 3 first rounders for Luck, if he does turn out to be the next Manning/Elway it'll still be a terrible trade. I would put the chances of the Colts trading the pick if they got it at 0 percent. Polian more than anyone knows the value of getting the next franchise QB and there is absolutely zero chance he'll trade it if he thinks Luck is the next guy.

Zero? I'd say you're a little low at zero.

I'm just trying to point out it's not going to happen.

 

[Deamon]

Even if you could get 3 first rounders for Luck, if he does turn out to be the next Manning/Elway it'll still be a terrible trade. I would put the chances of the Colts trading the pick if they got it at 0 percent. Polian more than anyone knows the value of getting the next franchise QB and there is absolutely zero chance he'll trade it if he thinks Luck is the next guy.

Zero? I'd say you're a little low at zero.

I'm just trying to point out it's not going to happen.

Depends on Peytons health and the offer. If Peyton comes back healthy, and a team gives up a ridiculous amount of picks for him, they'll pull the trigger

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Even if you could get 3 first rounders for Luck, if he does turn out to be the next Manning/Elway it'll still be a terrible trade. I would put the chances of the Colts trading the pick if they got it at 0 percent. Polian more than anyone knows the value of getting the next franchise QB and there is absolutely zero chance he'll trade it if he thinks Luck is the next guy.

You can say that about anyone. If X turns out to be the next _____. 3 first rounders is great value. Especially with the class of QBs coming out this year, you could take one of them later on in the first and stockpile picks. There's still a thing called value, and EVERY player in the nfl has value. Would the Patriots trade Brady for 15 first round picks? I bet they would.

See Elway trade from Baltimore to Denver. If Polian in his heart believes that Luck is the next franchise QB on a level with Manning/Elway, then 3 first rounders wouldn't be enough to compensate for passing on a once in a generation type of franchise QB.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Even if you could get 3 first rounders for Luck, if he does turn out to be the next Manning/Elway it'll still be a terrible trade. I would put the chances of the Colts trading the pick if they got it at 0 percent. Polian more than anyone knows the value of getting the next franchise QB and there is absolutely zero chance he'll trade it if he thinks Luck is the next guy.

Zero? I'd say you're a little low at zero.

I'm just trying to point out it's not going to happen.

Depends on Peytons health and the offer. If Peyton comes back healthy, and a team gives up a ridiculous amount of picks for him, they'll pull the trigger

I'm telling you it doesn't matter. Polian's not going to pass up on a 21 year old version when his is 35 years old.

 

[Phil4]

You guys doesnt beleive in Painter as the new franchise QB ?

 

[Chase Stuart]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Colts trade the pick. Manning might have 3-5 more years, and if they could build a nuclear around him by trading the #1 pick, why not? Yes, they'd have a chance at a great QB for 10-15 years, but it's only a chance. And realistically, that "great" QB will only be a value for the first four years of his career (if he's great, he signs a 100M contract extension).

The question is whether a team could give the Colts the parts they need to make them a SB contender. But if you can give the Colts an elite team for the next three to five years in exchange for giving up a chance at a star QB, nothing wrong with that. There are a lot of Tim Couches of the world.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I also don't think it makes sense to have Manning "tutor" Luck. You don't throw away a season or two to have someone "tutor" someone. If the Colts draft Luck, I assume they trade Manning. Otherwise, why tie an enormous chunk of your cap at the QB position when you have a ton of other needs? Realistically, they can't keep everyone, Manning and Luck.

Maybe they keep Manning for a year, but again, what's the point? Just like with the Eagles trading Kolb, I think you have to make a decision and go with it. In the NFL, you can't afford to have such a valuable commodity at backup QB.

The question of what would Manning go for in trade is interesting. I assume a win now team (Jets?) would be willing to pony up at least two first rounders, but that's only if Manning gets a clean bill of health.

 

[Deamon]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Colts trade the pick. Manning might have 3-5 more years, and if they could build a nuclear around him by trading the #1 pick, why not? Yes, they'd have a chance at a great QB for 10-15 years, but it's only a chance. And realistically, that "great" QB will only be a value for the first four years of his career (if he's great, he signs a 100M contract extension).The question is whether a team could give the Colts the parts they need to make them a SB contender. But if you can give the Colts an elite team for the next three to five years in exchange for giving up a chance at a star QB, nothing wrong with that. There are a lot of Tim Couches of the world.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

... or spend a year or two learning from one of the best QBs of all time...re: Rodgers/Favre situation.

This...and it's not close. In fact, this would be a scenario most young QBs would HOPE to have happen. He'd rather go...? To the Dolphins and pcik the brain of Chad Henne? If I'm Luck, I'd be praying every day that Indy goes 0-16.

Peyton Manning disagrees

 

[Deamon]

I also don't think it makes sense to have Manning "tutor" Luck. You don't throw away a season or two to have someone "tutor" someone. If the Colts draft Luck, I assume they trade Manning. Otherwise, why tie an enormous chunk of your cap at the QB position when you have a ton of other needs? Realistically, they can't keep everyone, Manning and Luck.Maybe they keep Manning for a year, but again, what's the point? Just like with the Eagles trading Kolb, I think you have to make a decision and go with it. In the NFL, you can't afford to have such a valuable commodity at backup QB.The question of what would Manning go for in trade is interesting. I assume a win now team (Jets?) would be willing to pony up at least two first rounders, but that's only if Manning gets a clean bill of health.

Can't see them trading Manning to an AFC team... can't actually see them trading him at all. Not just because of his play, but because he is the face of the franchise, and I think he'll retire a Colt. I think it would make sense for him to tutor a different qb, or maybe a guy like Luck for 1-2 years, but Luck is more nfl ready then rodgers was. I just can't see Luck as a colt next year, and am pretty sure san fran would give indy their top pick for the next 100 years for Luck

 

[Bayhawks]

And no way he plays college next year. It was surprising he did this year, but with lockout looming and wanting to play one more year to polish skills, there's no chance he risks breaking his leg next year in college and throwing away millions of dollars and getting an office job. Luck is going pro no matter who drafts him.

How is the situation this coming year any "better" than the situation last year?He WAS worried about the lockout forcing him to make less money than under the old system, now he KNOWS that the money he makes will be less.

The threat of injury is no different than it was when he decided to stay this year.

He seems (based on articles, interviews, etc) not to "NEED" money; he comes from a well-to-do family & has earned/will earn his degree from Stanford.

What has/will change(d) to make you so sure that "Luck is going pro no matter who drafts him?"

 

[Deamon]

... or spend a year or two learning from one of the best QBs of all time...re: Rodgers/Favre situation.

This...and it's not close. In fact, this would be a scenario most young QBs would HOPE to have happen. He'd rather go...? To the Dolphins and pcik the brain of Chad Henne? If I'm Luck, I'd be praying every day that Indy goes 0-16.

Peyton Manning disagrees

I don't think it matters as much to Luck where he goes as we are speculating. Positives and negatives with every situation. Go to a Miami, Denver, instant starter, new face of franchise.... but also everyone calling you "the next marino", "the next elway" and the constant comparisons. Or go to a team like Indy where you may or may not start for the first X number of years, but you develop and enter a really good situation when you do start (ala rodgers). Obviously his dream scenario is for san fran to trade for that pick, automatic starter on a division winning team. But that doesn't seem all that likely. Or maybe the vikings or seahawks get that top pick and then you're also put in a pretty decent situation to succeed. Tough to say what the kid wants.

 

[butcher boy]

This whole discussion is pointless because the Colts are by far not the worst team in the league.

A better question would be what will the Rams do with Bradford if they get Luck.

 

[Deamon]

And no way he plays college next year. It was surprising he did this year, but with lockout looming and wanting to play one more year to polish skills, there's no chance he risks breaking his leg next year in college and throwing away millions of dollars and getting an office job. Luck is going pro no matter who drafts him.

How is the situation this coming year any "better" than the situation last year?He WAS worried about the lockout forcing him to make less money than under the old system, now he KNOWS that the money he makes will be less.

The threat of injury is no different than it was when he decided to stay this year.

He seems (based on articles, interviews, etc) not to "NEED" money; he comes from a well-to-do family & has earned/will earn his degree from Stanford.

What has/will change(d) to make you so sure that "Luck is going pro no matter who drafts him?"

Last year was different... the lockout loomed. He wouldn't have had offseason, mini camps, etc to develop and learn the offense. He still had things to accomplish (wanted a shot to win the title) and skills to develop. The threat of staying healthy for 2 years is much more then just 1 year. Also, yes he woulda gone #1 last year, but he wasn't getting NEAR this much hype. It makes no sense for him to play another year of college (he will graduate after this year anyways), he has polished his skills enough to become an nfl caliber quarterback. You are insane if you think he's going to stay in college another year just out of fear that Indy might draft him. Do you honestly believe that or are you just playing devils advocate? And what is he going to do at Stanford next year? He cited friends and academics as the reason he's staying. That may not be the only reasons, but I do think his degree is important to him. He finishes his degree this year, so why stay?

So you ask what has changed? 1. Hype, consensus #1, will get full rookie salary. 2. will have mini camps, otas, and other chances to be able to step in as starter right away. 3. got his chance for a title at stanford. 4. got his degree. 5. polished his skills enough that he needs the college game no more to make his transition easier. 6. Has said this is his last season at Stanford. I'd say those are pretty good reasons.

 

[Deamon]

This whole discussion is pointless because the Colts are by far not the worst team in the league. A better question would be what will the Rams do with Bradford if they get Luck.

See posts above, we discuss what the rams would do with the pick. a few seem to think they will draft him and keep him even with bradford.... I doubt they do this, they have a franchise qb and his value would be crazy. They would trade the pick with a clause that he can't go to arizona, sf, or seattle, and get a ton of stuff in return for him.

 

[EBF]

I think St. Louis would also consider keeping Luck and trading Bradford. They might decide that Luck is the better player.

As for Luck coming back another year, forget it. He has already said that he's treating this like it's his final season. I also don't think he's the type of person to pull an Eli/Elway if an undesirable team gets the #1 pick. My guess is that he would be happy to play for any team. I guess you never know though.

 

[Deamon]

I think St. Louis would also consider keeping Luck and trading Bradford. They might decide that Luck is the better player. As for Luck coming back another year, forget it. He has already said that he's treating this like it's his final season. I also don't think he's the type of person to pull an Eli/Elway if an undesirable team gets the #1 pick. My guess is that he would be happy to play for any team. I guess you never know though.

I guess there is a chance they trade Bradford too. I think they'd get more in return for Luck then for Bradford though, but would be interesting. He would really have to blow bradford away in offseason camps for that to happen. Have a feeling the Luck conversations and posts are going to be more of a talk then the nfl playoff races come week 15, 16, 17

 

[CalBear]

I also don't think it makes sense to have Manning "tutor" Luck. You don't throw away a season or two to have someone "tutor" someone. If the Colts draft Luck, I assume they trade Manning. Otherwise, why tie an enormous chunk of your cap at the QB position when you have a ton of other needs? Realistically, they can't keep everyone, Manning and Luck.

With the new rookie wage structure, a #1 overall rookie QB would be as cheap as a veteran backup. Cam Newton got $22 million over 4 years; Tarvaris Jackson got $8 million over 2 years, Hasselbeck got $20 million over 3 years. $5-6 million/year is not going to break the bank, and the Colts are not going to be satisfied that a Painter-level backup will be good enough for them, not when Manning's ability to complete an NFL season is in serious question.Luck isn't a whiny puke like the last overhyped QB out of Stanford to be drafted by the Colts; he'll play where he's drafted.