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Pretty much what I read some place. Basically Fox has said that if they go with Tebow they will have to run a completely different offense. I guess he worries they might lose twice a week rather than just once if he makes changes. Not to hijack but in Carolina the offense was developed to fit the personnel, seems like a revolutionary idea to me. Why not see what they have in Tebow ( I understand this question have been asked many times).
I don't really think that was the case in Carolina. In Carolina, John Fox had an idea for what he wanted to run, and everyone was forced into the role that he saw for them. If he didn't like you, you never earned a shot. If he did like you, you kept your job until you got injured. John Fox did great when the personel was perfect to fit what he was looking for, but otherwise he just crashed and burned with his system.I am so glad to not have him in Carolina any longer, even with the 1-3 record...
Champ Bailey should help that quite a bit.
Great post. I disagreed with the decision to start Orton because I didn't think this team could compete this year and so they were better off seeing what they had in Tebow (and Quinn). You know what Orton is and he isn't changing. That being said, they decided to go with the experienced journeyman, and try to win now. Fine. I can respect that. But at some point, if you aren't competing anyway, don't you need to see what you have?And Papa, your point about crafting the offense to the players is spot on. That's what good teams do. And it is another reason why they have to know if Tebow is their future or not. If he is, then next off season they will need to revamp playbook and possibly the OC. If you wait until the end of the year to do anything, you won't have enough time to assess the young kids and your off season will be directionless yet again.
Except that the HC feels that Orton is the better QB. Why put in your 2nd string or possibly 3rd string guy? Orton is not the reason that the Broncos are losing. The D is pitiful. The running game has struggled.
The D wasn't doing so bad until last week's debacle. 23, 22, and 17 points allowed to teams scoring 29.3, 19.3, and 23.7 ppg against other teams, respectively. If you have an average offense you would expect to win 50% if your D is allowing "par" scores like 17, 22, 23. They were 1-2 in those games. Denver is looking like one of those middle-of-the-road teams that is susceptible to a blowout like last week when they come up against an elite team. Bailey comes back, say the offense starts picking up another scoring drive or so per game, maybe they can surprise some people. But the schedule is brutal, AFC East + NFC North probably as bad as it gets this year. Packers, Pats, Lions, Bill, Jets, Bears, OOOOF.
I didn't get to hear everything that was said on the radio, but on one of the local stations they were indicating that Tebow not playing may also have a ton to do with money.....something about if he plays X number of snaps or games or quarters or something that something in his contract with a lot of zero's after it kicks in......I could be completely off base here, but they made it sound like if Tebow plays too many snaps it could cost them (millions) of dollars.....whereas if he doesn't play, something in Tebpw's contract would not kick in.....not real sure....might need Cecil or somebody to chime in or check it out, but the guys on the radio said that there are also some financial factors in place that the coach/team won't come right out and and say that is not why they are playing a guy, but it is discussed behind the scenes..."we are going to suck anyway so let's save some cash"....?
Do you have any concept of how boring sports would be if we all collectively refrained from ever critizing coaches and GMs for personel and game decisions? It's like, half the fun!
How about the careers and livelihood of every single other player on that team?Lets pretend for a second that the professional evaluators in Denver have some semblance of a clue what they are talking about when they decide that Tebow is the 3rd best QB on the team. They start him anyway because "we gotta see what we have in him" and "fans demand it". Since we are assuming they are correct about him, the team will do worse. (no, not 2 losses a week, hardeeharhar
). But instead, worse meaning the offense does worse. Generates fewer points. Gains fewer yards. How does that affect the ability of the current players to negotiate their next contract. To even have a next contract. To even have a job next year. And when an offense does bad, the defense is on the field more. Giving up more yards. More points. Diminishing their contracts. Their ability to continue to have a job. Not every player on a team is locked into a high dollar contract for the next decade.So all for the glorification of the egos of people who love a guy because of his religion, you're going to give a huge middle finger to 50+ other players, dozens of coaches and staff personnel. None of them matter. None of their careers matter. None of their contracts matter.
It's more fun to be right when you call it against consensus. TT has talent. He needs an offense and a coach that fits. Fox and Denver don't seem to be.'Reepicheep said:Do you have any concept of how boring sports would be if we all collectively refrained from ever critizing coaches and GMs for personel and game decisions? It's like, half the fun!'FarEastKilla said:
Everyone that gets drafted in the NFL has talent.It's more fun to be right when you call it against consensus. TT has talent.'Reepicheep said:Do you have any concept of how boring sports would be if we all collectively refrained from ever critizing coaches and GMs for personel and game decisions? It's like, half the fun!'FarEastKilla said:
Everyone that gets drafted in the NFL has talent.Fixed!Everyone that gets drafted in the NFL has talent.It's more fun to be right when you call it against consensus. TT has talent.'Reepicheep said:Do you have any concept of how boring sports would be if we all collectively refrained from ever critizing coaches and GMs for personel and game decisions? It's like, half the fun!'FarEastKilla said:
I seem to recall Tebow has escalators in his contract that kick in if he takes more than 50 percent of the team's snaps. Given how long Fox stuck with Delhomme as a starting QB in Carolina, I can't see Tebow getting a chance this year. Saving money is just a bonus for the front office.'Stinkin Ref said:
fans are putting up billboards in denver begging for tebow.and ofc, theres this place: http://www.tebowzone.com/'Shutout said:
