If Frank Gore stays un injured - WOW ! (1 Viewer)

[The Moz]

copied from RTS

Week 1 ARI -- -- decent

Week 2 @SEA -- -- decent

Week 3 DET -- -- SWEET

Week 4 @NOR -- -- SWEET

Week 5 NWE -- -- decent - theyre not great against run

Week 6 PHI -- -- decent to so so

Week 7 @NYG -- -- sucks

Week 8 SEA -- -- decent

Week 9 < bye > -- --

Week 10 @ARI -- -- decent

Week 11 STL -- -- SWEET

Week 12 @DAL -- -- sucks

Week 13 @BUF -- -- nice

Playoff Week 1 NYJ -- -- SWEET

Playoff Week 2 @MIA -- -- SWEET

Playoff Week 3 @STL -- -- SWEET

All 3 playoff weeks are great match ups ... at least on paper right now

Martz should feed him the ball at least as much as he did in Detroit to KJ and the PPR value could make Gore a top 3 back or higher at seasons end !!

ONly thing is it takes a little balls to take a RB with 2 repaired knees and 2 repaired shoulders ( aka da bionic man ) top 5 on draft day. If he stays alright he could have a MONSTER season.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

while I agree that Gore's value should be higher in PPR leagues.

Looking at a schedule now is flawed.

NYJ should be much improved as well

 

[fred_1_15301]

while I agree that Gore's value should be higher in PPR leagues.

Looking at a schedule now is flawed.

NYJ should be much improved as well

 

[BlahBlah WoofWoof]

The Saints were pretty tough against the run, LAST year. Add in the additions of Vilma (if healthy), Morgan (if healthy) and Ellis, that might not change.

Saints have also held Gore in check the last 2 times, they have met.

 

[Yenrub]

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

while I agree that Gore's value should be higher in PPR leagues.

Looking at a schedule now is flawed.

NYJ should be much improved as well.

I don't agree with that at all. However the point about the Jets is important. Looking at the schedule just using last years stats, I would agree is flawed, however looking at those stats and then tweaking them based upon changes to those teams, and looking at who those teams played last year is worth something. To me anyway.

 

[zamboni]

Looking at a schedule now is flawed.

I never understand why people can make schedule assessments several months before training camp even begins. Season after season we see teams that are expected to be bad turn out to much better than expected, and vice versa.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Sure, some teams change significantly one way or the other. But I think you can predict things to a degree. Did anyone expect the Rams to have a terrible D last season? Is Long going to be that big of a difference maker? Is it likely they'll stink yet again?

 

[westbrook36]

The Eagles were 7th against the run last year, so I would say he is in for a tough day there.

Seattle should be better against the run, because they get DT Marcus Tubbs back(injury) this year.

New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d.

If Marcus Stroud stays healthy the Bills' run defense will improve a lot. They also signed Kawika Mitchell and get Paul Posluzny back. They may end up being pretty tough against the run.

The Jets traded for Kris Jenkins, and could could be the NT they have needed if he stays healthy. They also signed LB Calvin Pace, and he could improve their defense.

The Dolphins have a ton of changes coming. The 3-4 defense will include NT Jason Ferguson, DE Phillip Merling, DE Kendall Langford, DE Lionel Dotson, DE Randy Starks, S Keith Davis, and LB Akin Ayodele. There are a ton of changes, and they could be very different in 2008.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Maybe I'm missing something. The Niners schedule is ranked 16th by this site. What's so special about that? I don't really care about SOS anyways. I might use it as a tiebreaker between two players of equal ability but I don't think I'd not draft a player or reach for a lesser player due to a good preseason strength of schedule. I've never seen a player bust because the schedule was too hard.

If the offensive line doesn't pick up it's level of play it doesn't matter what kind of schedule Frank Gore plays against. He won't be able to play at his full potential.

 

[One]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

Same here, his schedule looked just as good.

 

[thatguythere]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

Same here, his schedule looked just as good.

Yep, and now he has the genius calling the plays.

 

[LBH]

The key to Gores production is his health and durability, not his schedule. I like his chances to be a very good fantasy RB this year if he can stay off the injury report

 

[AnonymousBob]

The key to Gores production is his health and durability, not his schedule. I like his chances to be a very good fantasy RB this year if he can stay off the injury report

Health isn't as big an issue as people seem to think - he's missed one game in the past two seasons. His issue is going to be the play of the offensive line and the playcalling of the offensive coordinator (Martz). Last year our oline and ocoordinator were lacking.

 

[LBH]

The key to Gores production is his health and durability, not his schedule. I like his chances to be a very good fantasy RB this year if he can stay off the injury report

Health isn't as big an issue as people seem to think - he's missed one game in the past two seasons. His issue is going to be the play of the offensive line and the playcalling of the offensive coordinator (Martz). Last year our oline and ocoordinator were lacking.

I agree. I wasnt saying its been a problem the last couple of years. I just worry he will have some durability concerns because I drafted him in a couple of leagues this year

 

[AnonymousBob]

The key to Gores production is his health and durability, not his schedule. I like his chances to be a very good fantasy RB this year if he can stay off the injury report

Health isn't as big an issue as people seem to think - he's missed one game in the past two seasons. His issue is going to be the play of the offensive line and the playcalling of the offensive coordinator (Martz). Last year our oline and ocoordinator were lacking.

I agree. I wasnt saying its been a problem the last couple of years. I just worry he will have some durability concerns because I drafted him in a couple of leagues this year

Gotcha. As a Niner fan here's hoping Gore has a healthy monster season!

 

[5Rings]

Gore's year will be determined by Martz/Smith's ability to make defenses respect the passing game.

If opposing defenses don't respect the passing attack, you can crystal ball the schedule all you like, but it will be 2007 all over again.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Looking at a schedule now is flawed.

I never understand why people can make schedule assessments several months before training camp even begins. Season after season we see teams that are expected to be bad turn out to much better than expected, and vice versa.

The staying power of this off-season/pre-season schedule strength trend is amazing to me. I think it's next to worthless.

Still, Frank Gore in '08 =

 

[sfl49er]

Maybe I'm missing something. The Niners schedule is ranked 16th by this site. What's so special about that? I don't really care about SOS anyways. I might use it as a tiebreaker between two players of equal ability but I don't think I'd not draft a player or reach for a lesser player due to a good preseason strength of schedule. I've never seen a player bust because the schedule was too hard.

If the offensive line doesn't pick up it's level of play it doesn't matter what kind of schedule Frank Gore plays against. He won't be able to play at his full potential.

It really matters on how much the offence will open up the passing game and get that eighth man out of the box. That a lot of what happened last year.

I would like to see Gore's receiving up there too, as he could very well get 60 - 70 receptions. If he does, he could rack up yards after catch. Smith needs more than three seconds make a smart decision too!

 

[GregR_2]

...New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d....

New England's defense faced the fewest rushing attempts in the entire league, but they were 5th worst in the league in terms of yards given up per rush. They were only top ten in total yards because their offense opened up big leads and teams ran the ball less. But when it came to stopping the run, they were one of the worst, not one of the best.One might still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind. But I think an argument based on quality of the run D should be in his favor, not against.

 

[bostonfred]

...New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d....

New England's defense faced the fewest rushing attempts in the entire league, but they were 5th worst in the league in terms of yards given up per rush. They were only top ten in total yards because their offense opened up big leads and teams ran the ball less. But when it came to stopping the run, they were one of the worst, not one of the best.One might still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind. But I think an argument based on quality of the run D should be in his favor, not against.

If you're going to use that argument, then you have to at least acknowledge that a team that was defending against the pass should expect to give up more yards per rush.

 

[Sabertooth]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

I've done this many times. Miss things by a year. I am on the Gore bandwagon once again now.

 

[Tanner9919]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

maybe not..Alex Smith running the Martz chuck-n-duck system?! puh-lease! Its one thing to have Kitna running it, but Alex Smith>?! ..phew..not sure that offense will work in SF, Smith couldn't handle the previous offense now you expect him to take on the Martz system? eek..

Gore will probably catch 50+ balls, but I wouldn't expect too much in terms of rushing yards..Martz doesn't like to call running plays, he certainly forgot about the run in Detroit

 

[fun-b]

He forgot about the run in Detroit Rock City because they never had a consistent RB to hand the ball off too.

Martz' philosophy is to get the ball in the hands of the best player of the team. That being Frank Gore. I'm sure you've read the countless comparisons of Gore to Faulk now. Who's to say Gore doesn't put up Faulk-esque numbers?

I'm gonna throw out 1800-2000 yards from scrimmage and 10-15 TD's (15 being outstanding).

But hey, I'm a Gore owner and have the right to fantasize. After all, it is fantasy football.

 

[gianmarco]

...New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d....

New England's defense faced the fewest rushing attempts in the entire league, but they were 5th worst in the league in terms of yards given up per rush. They were only top ten in total yards because their offense opened up big leads and teams ran the ball less. But when it came to stopping the run, they were one of the worst, not one of the best.One might still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind. But I think an argument based on quality of the run D should be in his favor, not against.

We hear this type of argument a lot, but even if that were the case, what makes you think SF is going to keep up with NE offensively so that they will have lots of rushing attempts? If anything, this is a reason NOT to like Gore against NE because it's very likely they will fall behind early and by a lot.

 

[fun-b]

...New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d....

New England's defense faced the fewest rushing attempts in the entire league, but they were 5th worst in the league in terms of yards given up per rush. They were only top ten in total yards because their offense opened up big leads and teams ran the ball less. But when it came to stopping the run, they were one of the worst, not one of the best.One might still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind. But I think an argument based on quality of the run D should be in his favor, not against.

We hear this type of argument a lot, but even if that were the case, what makes you think SF is going to keep up with NE offensively so that they will have lots of rushing attempts? If anything, this is a reason NOT to like Gore against NE because it's very likely they will fall behind early and by a lot.

Then they'll pass to Gore instead of rush with him. So in a PPR league, Gore will be money in the bank.

 

[King of the Jungle]

He forgot about the run in Detroit Rock City because they never had a consistent RB to hand the ball off too.

Martz' philosophy is to get the ball in the hands of the best player of the team. That being Frank Gore. I'm sure you've read the countless comparisons of Gore to Faulk now. Who's to say Gore doesn't put up Faulk-esque numbers?

I'm gonna throw out 1800-2000 yards from scrimmage and 10-15 TD's (15 being outstanding).

But hey, I'm a Gore owner and have the right to fantasize. After all, it is fantasy football.

How many years/different teams will Martz have to go through to get rid of this phrase "Faulk-esque numbers". I am a Gore owner and hope he succeeds, but the bottom-line SF are not the Rams of old. Everything clicked for the Rams back in the day and they had the talent to grasp it. I know the Rams came out of the blue, but SF does not have the right offensive personal to pull that off.

 

[gianmarco]

...New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d....

New England's defense faced the fewest rushing attempts in the entire league, but they were 5th worst in the league in terms of yards given up per rush. They were only top ten in total yards because their offense opened up big leads and teams ran the ball less. But when it came to stopping the run, they were one of the worst, not one of the best.One might still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind. But I think an argument based on quality of the run D should be in his favor, not against.

We hear this type of argument a lot, but even if that were the case, what makes you think SF is going to keep up with NE offensively so that they will have lots of rushing attempts? If anything, this is a reason NOT to like Gore against NE because it's very likely they will fall behind early and by a lot.

Then they'll pass to Gore instead of rush with him. So in a PPR league, Gore will be money in the bank.

That's a completely separate issue and I agree that they will. I'm a big Gore supporter. I'm just saying, we see the type of argument about how a team like NE gives up more yds/rush but that they just had far fewer rushing attempts because of big leads. Well, the same thing should happen so I wouldn't consider NE a good matchup in terms of rushing #'s. It doesn't mean he still wouldn't be successful and get his points in the air.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

maybe not..Alex Smith running the Martz chuck-n-duck system?! puh-lease! Its one thing to have Kitna running it, but Alex Smith>?! ..phew..not sure that offense will work in SF, Smith couldn't handle the previous offense now you expect him to take on the Martz system? eek..

Gore will probably catch 50+ balls, but I wouldn't expect too much in terms of rushing yards..Martz doesn't like to call running plays, he certainly forgot about the run in Detroit

The offensive coordinator for the Niners was beyond pathetic last season. They only started scoring points at the end of the season after they brought in some outside help.Gore caught 53 passes last season (15 games) and 61 the year before. I honestly believe Gore will catch a minimum of 60 passes. Based upon his career average per catch, that'll give him around 500 yards...I think Martz was at one point a bit overrated but he went to the Lions for the past two seasons and imo Matt Millen and company sullied his name as he's still a good offensive coordinator.

Alex Smith was decent with Norv Turner (58% completion, 16tds/ints). He wasn't so terrible at the start of last season either. Then he got hurt.

 

[Interseptopus]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

Same here, his schedule looked just as good.

Yep, and now he has the genius calling the plays.

The "genius" that's been run out of the last 2 places he coached????? How does Martz get such credit 5+ years after he was apart of a winning team...

 

[Leroy's Aces]

I thought he had a very good chance to be the #1 rb last season. Maybe I was a year off?

Same here, his schedule looked just as good.

Yep, and now he has the genius calling the plays.

The "genius" that's been run out of the last 2 places he coached????? How does Martz get such credit 5+ years after he was apart of a winning team...

I gotta agree with you on Martz. And that quarterback situation is a disaster. I hate to make the old 8 men in the box cuz' the QB sucks argument but....

 

[GregR_2]

...New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d....

New England's defense faced the fewest rushing attempts in the entire league, but they were 5th worst in the league in terms of yards given up per rush. They were only top ten in total yards because their offense opened up big leads and teams ran the ball less. But when it came to stopping the run, they were one of the worst, not one of the best.One might still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind. But I think an argument based on quality of the run D should be in his favor, not against.

We hear this type of argument a lot, but even if that were the case, what makes you think SF is going to keep up with NE offensively so that they will have lots of rushing attempts? If anything, this is a reason NOT to like Gore against NE because it's very likely they will fall behind early and by a lot.

If only I'd had the forethought to point out that one could still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind.

 

[ShadowPhunk]

Too bad his team sucks and he has a pass happy coach who will F him into a few <10 carry games per season.

Also, your grading on Philly, NE, and Miami is off IMO

 

[GregR_2]

...New England finished the year 10th against the run, so I would say that is a tough run d....

New England's defense faced the fewest rushing attempts in the entire league, but they were 5th worst in the league in terms of yards given up per rush. They were only top ten in total yards because their offense opened up big leads and teams ran the ball less. But when it came to stopping the run, they were one of the worst, not one of the best.One might still argue Gore may have a bad day because he may not get a lot of rushes due to playing from behind. But I think an argument based on quality of the run D should be in his favor, not against.

If you're going to use that argument, then you have to at least acknowledge that a team that was defending against the pass should expect to give up more yards per rush.

If I were going to be using this as a significant factor in my opinion on Gore, I'd want to go actually look and see what the reality was. It wouldn't suprise me at all if their ypc against went up after they got a big lead, but it also wouldn't floor me if it didn't.

 

[Jimboozie]

Gore better catch a ####load of passes, because I don't envision that O-line and horrid passing game making it easy for him to run.

I'd gladly take him as a RB2, but as a RB1 I'll pass.