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No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, community service, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer? Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and their stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.
My BAC was 0.22. Virginia has mandatory penalties at .15 and .20. My lawyer had a few discussions with the cop (and prosecutor, I guess) and was able to lower the 'official' BAC to 0.14. This dropped me from 15 days in jail to 5, removed the requirement for a ignition interlock, significantly reduced the number of classes I had to attend, lowered my fines, and gave me a 1-year suspended license instead of 3.So, I found a lawyer to be a worthwhile investment.
 
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No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.

1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, community service, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer?

Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and their stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.

So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.
You answered your question at the end of the previous sentence. :shrug:
Chances of that happening are very slim. Would rather just start my DL suspension ASAP so I can be done with it.

 
No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.

1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, community service, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer?

Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and their stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.

So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.
You answered your question at the end of the previous sentence. :shrug:
Chances of that happening are very slim. Would rather just start my DL suspension ASAP so I can be done with it.
If what cali DUI attorneys have told you, then okay. But I'm just a little concerned because in AZ this is not a good choice (especially with a .17).Have you checked to see if you qualify for a public defender?

 
No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.

1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, community service, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer?

Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and their stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.

So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.
You answered your question at the end of the previous sentence. :shrug:
Chances of that happening are very slim. Would rather just start my DL suspension ASAP so I can be done with it.
If what cali DUI attorneys have told you, then okay. But I'm just a little concerned because in AZ this is not a good choice (especially with a .17).Have you checked to see if you qualify for a public defender?
In CA that'll be dependent on the county. Though the average cost of a DUI attorney is what, 1k? Doubt he'd qualify as indigent for that level of service.
 
No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.

1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, community service, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer?

Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and their stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.

So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.
You answered your question at the end of the previous sentence. :shrug:
Chances of that happening are very slim. Would rather just start my DL suspension ASAP so I can be done with it.
If what cali DUI attorneys have told you, then okay. But I'm just a little concerned because in AZ this is not a good choice (especially with a .17).Have you checked to see if you qualify for a public defender?
In CA that'll be dependent on the county. Though the average cost of a DUI attorney is what, 1k? Doubt he'd qualify as indigent for that level of service.
1k would be incredibly cheap for a DUI attorney. Also, can't hurt to request one. :shrug:

 
So the ex contacted me yesterday via text.

Sorry nothing crazy.

Apparently she left her RN license certificate, college diploma, and various other documents in a drawer and wants them back.

I didn't reply to her 2 text messages and I didn't answer her two calls. She then had her roommate text me (my BF's GF) asking about the items. I didn't reply.

I'm gonna give them to my BF on Saturday when we hang out, but really don't feel like communicating with her or doing things on her timetable. So she'll get that #### on Saturday.

Since, we've broken up I know she has come to hate me. I guess she hung out with my brother's ex shortly after we broke up and that ##### told her 5 years ago that I made out with some random chick at a party (I received very nasty text/phone calls afterwards). I didn't tell the GF then because she was/is crazy and a very jealous person. Might have ended the relationship since we were long distance, but maybe not since she was bat #### crazy for me. To be fair, the chick came on to me. Her BF had just broken up with her so yah. I stopped the kiss and never even thought about contacting her after that night (never did).

I know she's probably using that incident 5 years ago to rationalize/justify what she did to me now. But damn in that 5 years (the 1st two years of 7 were long distance) we went through a lot together. She willingly left me thinking I was the "perfect" boyfriend.

Anyways, this brings us back to the RN License, diploma, etc.

Would it be wise to sneak a letter in there apologizing about what happened 5 years ago? Or even just to remind her the whole reason she is an RN today was because I encouraged and believed in her (BACKSTORY: She had given up on nursing after failing O-chem, which pretty much ended her chances of getting into SDSU nursing program. So she switched her major to become a physical therapist. However, when I met her that was the time I was switching majors into Nursing and I encouraged her to retake o-chem and apply for nursing again at other schools since all her other grades were "A")? Also, the reason she works as an RN today is because my mom vouched for her and used her connections as a RN supervisor to get her a job.

I don't want her back, but I just don't want her to hate me either.

I guess it all falls back to this quote:

"When women love us, they forgive us everything, even our crimes; when they do not love us, they give us credit for nothing, not even our virtues" – Balzac.

Does it make sense to give my side or seek some type of closure on this subject? She may not care, but it bugs the hell out of me that she basically ignores all that my family and I did for her b/c 5 years ago I made out with some chick.

 
Would it be wise to sneak a letter in there apologizing about what happened 5 years ago?
Yes, I definitely think you need to apologize to the chick who was getting pinned to the sheets by a personal trainer while the two of you were going out. Because, you know, you sort of kissed some girl 5 years ago. Clearly the same thing.Edit: Seriously, the fact that this prospect even crossed your mind is Sign #793 that you're nowhere near the point of "moving on" with your life.
 
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Do not write a note! Just give her crap back and be done with it. Writing a note lowers your value and make her once again feel empowered. What do you care what she thinks anymore...if nothing else, go out on top by making her think you don't give an F anymore.

 
It's so obvious that you want her back. If that's what you truly want, fine. Admit it. It's not the right decision but maybe she'll change. I doubt it but it sounds like you'd rather haver her in your life than out of your life.

Just decide one way or the other. This wavering stuff isn't working.

 
Do not write a note! Just give her crap back and be done with it. Writing a note lowers your value and make her once again feel empowered. What do you care what she thinks anymore...if nothing else, go out on top by making her think you don't give an F anymore.
When I read this real quick I thought it said crap on her stuff! :lmao: Probably not a good idea though!Seriously I agree with the above post -- don't write a note. If she hates you there is nothing that you can write in a note that is going to change her mind. And who cares if she does? She was the lying %^&^$ that was screwing another guy while you two were still together.

 
It's so obvious that you want her back. If that's what you truly want, fine. Admit it. It's not the right decision but maybe she'll change. I doubt it but it sounds like you'd rather haver her in your life than out of your life.

Just decide one way or the other. This wavering stuff isn't working.
:goodposting:
 
It's so obvious that you want her back. If that's what you truly want, fine. Admit it. It's not the right decision but maybe she'll change. I doubt it but it sounds like you'd rather haver her in your life than out of your life.Just decide one way or the other. This wavering stuff isn't working.
Not wavering, I could never trust her again. I know that for a fact. I owe it to myself to see what else is out there. I guess it just irks me that she thinks everything is "even" now. Then again if she thinks that, nothing will change her mind.
 
It's so obvious that you want her back. If that's what you truly want, fine. Admit it.
:goodposting: Just take her stuff to her personally on your hands and knees and beg forgiveness for kissing a girl 5 years ago. Tell her that all you want is to be back together and you don't care if she has an occasional roll in the sack or takes a vacation with the personal trainer.
 
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No note. It doesn't matter if she hates you or whether it's for good reasons or bad. She should have zero impact on your life.

 
Actually, I changed my mind. Leave a note, but not a handwritten apology. Leave a note on her diploma. Cross off her name and scrawl "#####" in blood.

 
Actually, I changed my mind. Leave a note, but not a handwritten apology. Leave a note on her diploma. Cross off her name and scrawl "#####" in blood.
This seriously crossed my mind when she first texted me. How about a note that reads:"Just remember who believed and encouraged you to get this license and diploma."Not an apology. Just a reminder.
 
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Actually, I changed my mind. Leave a note, but not a handwritten apology. Leave a note on her diploma. Cross off her name and scrawl "#####" in blood.
This seriously crossed my mind when she first texted me. How about a note that reads:"Just remember who believed and encouraged you to get this license and diploma."Not an apology. Just a reminder.
And what do you expect to get out of that?What will it achieve?
 
Actually, I changed my mind. Leave a note, but not a handwritten apology. Leave a note on her diploma. Cross off her name and scrawl "#####" in blood.
This seriously crossed my mind when she first texted me. How about a note that reads:"Just remember who believed and encouraged you to get this license and diploma."Not an apology. Just a reminder.
And what do you expect to get out of that?What will it achieve?
Make her hate me less?Then again like you guys said it shouldn't matter. Not like this is new news to me, just haven't brought it up before in this thread. You're right there is no reason to leave a note. Just give my friend her #### and be done with her.
 
Actually, I changed my mind. Leave a note, but not a handwritten apology. Leave a note on her diploma. Cross off her name and scrawl "#####" in blood.
This seriously crossed my mind when she first texted me.

How about a note that reads:

"Just remember who believed and encouraged you to get this license and diploma."

"This is the rest of your stuff. If you contact me again, I will kill a member of your family. My choice."

Not an apology. Just a reminder.
Great idea!
 
This thread just keeps getting more painful to read
:unsubscribe: :pleasedeargodmakethewhitecornergoaway:Mistake after mistake. Not to mention he completely ignores all advice from those who have been through this before. Maybe we're all just victims of the greatest fishing trip ever perpetrated in the FFA.
 
This thread will be great for me in a few days.

Do not write a note. Hand the stuff over and be done with her.
I would stay out of here if I were you. It's not a healthy place to be. Understandably so, but still...
 
This thread just keeps getting more painful to read
Ha. Working on my POF and OK Cupid profile just in time for my driver's license suspension. Soon you'll have stories of me asking my dates to pick me up.
Can you start a new thread for that vomit so those who wasted our time here don't need to check it? Thanks, GB.
:goodposting: yes, please start a new thread for that chapter in your life and let this one die.
 
It's so obvious that you want her back. If that's what you truly want, fine. Admit it. It's not the right decision but maybe she'll change. I doubt it but it sounds like you'd rather haver her in your life than out of your life.

Just decide one way or the other. This wavering stuff isn't working.
Not wavering, I could never trust her again. I know that for a fact. I owe it to myself to see what else is out there.

I guess it just irks me that she thinks everything is "even" now. Then again if she thinks that, nothing will change her mind.
Are you a little girl, why do you give a crap. You really need to move on!
 
Did I miss the update with HI chick? Did the HIV test results come back yet? Please cliffs someone.
After I banged her I didn't contact her for like two weeks (We banged Thursday and I texted her Saturday just to keep things going so it didn't seem like a 1 night thing - we exchanged a few friendly texts). The week after banging her was Valentine's Week so I made sure to stay the hell away and after that I got the DUI and went to Vegas. Texted her sometime midweek after I arrived and she never replied back. Never bothered to text her since. Either I was terrible in bed (doubt it), she wanted a fling (maybe?), or was butt hurt that I didn't contact her for Valentines (likely). Oh well. Reminded me to schedule an appointment to get tested.
 
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Actually, I changed my mind. Leave a note, but not a handwritten apology. Leave a note on her diploma. Cross off her name and scrawl "#####" in blood.
This seriously crossed my mind when she first texted me.

How about a note that reads:

"Just remember who believed and encouraged you to get this license and diploma."

Not an apology. Just a reminder.
And what do you expect to get out of that?What will it achieve?
Make her hate me less?Then again like you guys said it shouldn't matter. Not like this is new news to me, just haven't brought it up before in this thread.

You're right there is no reason to leave a note. Just give my friend her #### and be done with her.
You think telling her that she owes her success to you is going to make her hate you less?
 
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