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[Slapdash]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

How many girls have you bagged after grinding on at clubs?

 

[No. 16]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

Since the month and a half I've been single.

1 out of the 3 numbers I have gotten.

- Seckeds HI.

- Text failed Hot Asian Girl.

- Sitting on Artsy Cute Filipina chick's phone number right now.

 

[jamny]

Yah reading it I can see why she's with the "personal trainer" now even if everyone thinks he's a loser. I was too beta in the relationship always up to what she wanted to do, I stopped working out, and she makes good money herself so she didn't need me financially.

Wish she would have verbalized her unhappiness, but like the book says it's more subconcious. I haven't finished it yet, but major props to Getzalf for recommending it. Will defintely make sure my next relationship is awesome. Can never get complacent with yourself or your SO will become "bored". Nothing wrong with that message.

The one sad part about it is makes relationships/attraction seem so based on "biologoy" / "primal instinct". That there is no control either man or woman have. It's probably the truth, but in a way it takes the "romance"/"sense of control" away.

I get the whole part about the biology of it all and it's good to know but it's more background info to me. Almost everything he said in the book were things I used to do. I was always Alpha without knowing terminology and rankings. It should be the foundation of any relationship, imo. I've seen so many friends make big mistakes early on in relationships that only lead to problems later on. Hiding who they really are. My problem is that after 18 years of marriage, I have settled back a bit to even rank. The book was just a good kick to remind me how things used to be and to get back to that.

That was me also.Having kids and growing a business sidetracked things also.

I'm now solely focused on being the best me, and that has left her with no choice, but to choose being the best she can be because some of the old, manipulative games that played well into being too beta just don't work any more because I don't allow them to.

and that's the book in a nutshell. Let everything else follow.Now after reading it, I think about our vacations. She books the hotel and flights but I do the rest. I do all the driving, pick most of the restaurants, plan the sightseeing, I got the map and take the pictures. I always think there's more affection because we're away on vacation (I'm sure that's part of it) but I'm in control from start to finish. Not saying everday has to be like that but it's an example I never really caught on to.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

I thought you met coke head at a bar and then dropped $250 on a date with her, then got the sechs.This will be my last attempt....go to a club, find a white girl that weighs 140+pounds, do this body roll thing with her. Take her home. Sech her.

 

[Slapdash]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

So 0? Maybe you should try a new tactic. I don't really think clubs are the best places to meet girls anyways.

 

[No. 16]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

What do you mean by bagged? Like taken home right after the clubs?

 

[Slapdash]

Since the month and a half I've been single.

1 out of the 3 numbers I have gotten.

- Seckeds HI.- Text failed Hot Asian Girl.

- Sitting on Artsy Cute Filipina chick's phone number right now.

So 0? Maybe you should try a new tactic. I don't really think clubs are the best places to meet girls anyways.

What do you mean by bagged? Like taken home right after the clubs?

Sorry, nevermind. I didn't compute the bolded, late follower to thread.

But yeah, I think in those type of environments the play is to take them home that night. At least in my experiences. Not get their number to call again a few days later. I think Da Raiders is right; you need to get some fatties for confidence. Seems like you want it too bad IMO.

 

[No. 16]

Since the month and a half I've been single.

1 out of the 3 numbers I have gotten.

- Seckeds HI.- Text failed Hot Asian Girl.

- Sitting on Artsy Cute Filipina chick's phone number right now.

So 0? Maybe you should try a new tactic. I don't really think clubs are the best places to meet girls anyways.

What do you mean by bagged? Like taken home right after the clubs?

Sorry, nevermind. I didn't compute the bolded, late follower to thread.

But yeah, I think in those type of environments the play is to take them home that night. At least in my experiences. Not get their number to call again a few days later. I think Da Raiders is right; you need to get some fatties for confidence. Seems like you want it too bad IMO.

Don't want it bad enough where I pork a fat girl. All the women I have approached are women I actually find attractive and I think most would as well. We'll see where the dancing goes. I think I just need to isolate/escalate more aggressively. The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value. Often in clubs girls are just dancing together, while dudes watch... creepily. I'm not afraid to go in the middle of the group of girls, dance with all of them until they are engaged, and then shift my attention to the one I really want. It's usually successful in that I can get the girl alone for a bit, but from there I just need to be more aggressive and work the dangle & take game.

Taking them home after the club is hit or miss depending on logistics. I live in the East Bay so SJ and SF are 30 minute drive. You can see how chicks maybe reluctant to drive that far out or ride in a car with a stranger that far away. Unfortunately, seems like most mid 20 somethings these days are still living with their parents out here in the Bay Area so you can see why it's tough to go to their place. Motel rooms seem to be the answer, so we'll see.

Just getting back into the swing of things. After reading The Game, marriedmansexlife, etc the past two days has gotten me to think about my approach and where it's been weak. Hopefully, I can get them worked up enough to want to drive out 30 minutes back to my place.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

 

[Rick James]

Dennis would not approve of you using his system, 16. You're butchering it.

 

[No. 16]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

 

[Zow]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

Eh, chicks dig guys who can dance - it's a great tool for a club scene IMO. I know because I can't dance for #### and can distinctly remember on at least 4 occassions losing chicks because I either danced so bad (seriously, I'm so terrible at dancing the effort isn't even endearing) or didn't want to dance.

 

[Zow]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm with you on this one. Not sure what his deal is.

 

[Rick James]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm with you on this one. Not sure what his deal is.

Not speaking for Dr. Awesome, but I think it's the "demonstrates my value" remark.My link

 

[Zow]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm with you on this one. Not sure what his deal is.

Not speaking for Dr. Awesome, but I think it's the "demonstrates my value" remark.My link

I'm here for the scraps.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm not a dancer. You little people can go nuts - even if you suck you blend into the crowd and few notice. I'm a mediocre dancer if you're being generous and taller than the average person and generally look like Shawn Bradley having a seizure. That said, there's nothing wrong with dancing. If you have fun then rock on. The way you phrased it is hilarious. If you get worked up enough things can quickly progress to the car/bathroom/etc. iirc there's even some data that points to some links between dancing and sexuality. But don't think it's your ticket to getting laid - because obviously that's not working. And let's be honest - you're a short Asian dude of average build. Bringing non-fatties home from the bar just isn't something you're going to be able to pull off with regularity any time soon.

 

[EYLive]

Where's cran and his wealth of wisdom when you need him?

 

[No. 16]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm not a dancer. You little people can go nuts - even if you suck you blend into the crowd and few notice. I'm a mediocre dancer if you're being generous and taller than the average person and generally look like Shawn Bradley having a seizure. That said, there's nothing wrong with dancing. If you have fun then rock on. The way you phrased it is hilarious. If you get worked up enough things can quickly progress to the car/bathroom/etc. iirc there's even some data that points to some links between dancing and sexuality. But don't think it's your ticket to getting laid - because obviously that's not working. And let's be honest - you're a short Asian dude of average build. Bringing non-fatties home from the bar just isn't something you're going to be able to pull off with regularity any time soon.

Give me a few more months of Crossfit to work on this. At least I'll be short Asian dude with muscles.Not saying dancing is gonna be my ticket, but hey it helps. I see too many guys just standing there while women dance in front of them and they look like dorks. Again, I don't think my problem is approaching women or getting them alone. It's the game afterwards where I need some work on.

 

[Slapdash]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm with you on this one. Not sure what his deal is.

Not speaking for Dr. Awesome, but I think it's the "demonstrates my value" remark.My link

I'm here for the scraps.

I got my magnum condoms, I got my wad of hundreds; I'm ready to plow!

 

[Slapdash]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

Eh, chicks dig guys who can dance - it's a great tool for a club scene IMO. I know because I can't dance for #### and can distinctly remember on at least 4 occassions losing chicks because I either danced so bad (seriously, I'm so terrible at dancing the effort isn't even endearing) or didn't want to dance.

I won't dance unless I'm way too drunk. Just not my thing.

 

[Rick James]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm not a dancer. You little people can go nuts - even if you suck you blend into the crowd and few notice. I'm a mediocre dancer if you're being generous and taller than the average person and generally look like Shawn Bradley having a seizure. That said, there's nothing wrong with dancing. If you have fun then rock on. The way you phrased it is hilarious. If you get worked up enough things can quickly progress to the car/bathroom/etc. iirc there's even some data that points to some links between dancing and sexuality. But don't think it's your ticket to getting laid - because obviously that's not working. And let's be honest - you're a short Asian dude of average build. Bringing non-fatties home from the bar just isn't something you're going to be able to pull off with regularity any time soon.

Give me a few more months of Crossfit to work on this. At least I'll be short Asian dude with muscles.Not saying dancing is gonna be my ticket, but hey it helps. I see too many guys just standing there while women dance in front of them and they look like dorks. Again, I don't think my problem is approaching women or getting them alone. It's the game afterwards where I need some work on.

You're inserting too much time between club and sexy time. Gotta figure out a way to close the deal the same night. Think about it...your odds of scoring decrease dramatically the further the female gets away from the hormones/alcohol/emotions in the club.

 

[No. 16]

The dancing usually serves as my icebreaker and demo of value.

This is sig worthy.

So what's wrong with dancing? If you're at a club you... isn't that the point to dance with a girls?

I'm not a dancer. You little people can go nuts - even if you suck you blend into the crowd and few notice. I'm a mediocre dancer if you're being generous and taller than the average person and generally look like Shawn Bradley having a seizure. That said, there's nothing wrong with dancing. If you have fun then rock on. The way you phrased it is hilarious. If you get worked up enough things can quickly progress to the car/bathroom/etc. iirc there's even some data that points to some links between dancing and sexuality. But don't think it's your ticket to getting laid - because obviously that's not working. And let's be honest - you're a short Asian dude of average build. Bringing non-fatties home from the bar just isn't something you're going to be able to pull off with regularity any time soon.

Give me a few more months of Crossfit to work on this. At least I'll be short Asian dude with muscles.Not saying dancing is gonna be my ticket, but hey it helps. I see too many guys just standing there while women dance in front of them and they look like dorks. Again, I don't think my problem is approaching women or getting them alone. It's the game afterwards where I need some work on.

You're inserting too much time between club and sexy time. Gotta figure out a way to close the deal the same night. Think about it...your odds of scoring decrease dramatically the further the female gets away from the hormones/alcohol/emotions in the club.

Agreed.

 

[Slapdash]

16, have you looked into any spots closer to your place? I went to a club this weekend in a suburban setting and the talent was much better than expected.

 

[eoMMan]

The only dancing that should be done by the average guy is a little two step and head bob. Nothing more.

 

[Gr00vus]

The only dancing that should be done by the average guy is a little two step and head bob. Nothing more.

If No.16 can dance it's a great hook. People need to be helping him build confidence here. Crumming on one of his viable assets is not cool.

 

[bonesman]

The only dancing that should be done by the average guy is a little two step and head bob. Nothing more.

You gotta make it sexy! Hips and nips... otherwise I'm not eatin

 

[No. 16]

16, have you looked into any spots closer to your place? I went to a club this weekend in a suburban setting and the talent was much better than expected.

Mostly dive bars around this area. There is one club/lounge and it's ok. Used to be good, but haven't been there in a while since they became really strict with dress code (it is a good thing though, keeps out the riff raff). The club in the valley area (Dublin/Plesanton/Livermore) is decent but about 20 minutes away also.

 

[eoMMan]

The only dancing that should be done by the average guy is a little two step and head bob. Nothing more.

If No.16 can dance it's a great hook. People need to be helping him build confidence here. Crumming on one of his viable assets is not cool.

I'm not dissing No. 16. I never saw him dance. But for the average guy who is just an okay dancer, it's a bad look, imo.

 

[curta269]

16, you are right about the dancing. Almost all girls like to dance. Not very many guys like to dance. If you are in a club and like to dance, you have an advantage.

As far as club girls, take a page out of "The Game." Try to get them to go to another place with you before you try to take them home. Whether its a dive bar next door, or for breakfast a few blocks away, this move usually works.

 

[boots11234]

Since no pictures have been provided by 16 I have only to rely on my imagination to picture what 16 looks like. I was wondering if others have done the same? For 16 I picture Toad from Grand Torino wearing the same outfit Jet Le wore in lethal weapon, that white suit, while he is grinding on the dance floor. , I still don't have a lock on his X though. Have any other FFB'ers done the same? Or is it just me?

 

[No. 16]

Since no pictures have been provided by 16 I have only to rely on my imagination to picture what 16 looks like. I was wondering if others have done the same? For 16 I picture Toad from Grand Torino wearing the same outfit Jet Le wore in lethal weapon, that white suit, while he is grinding on the dance floor. , I still don't have a lock on his X though. Have any other FFB'ers done the same? Or is it just me?

Close.

 

[skillz]

So I take it the nursing student never replied to your FB message? At least you gave it a shot - as the saying goes "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take." Just keep yourself out there and more options will materialize.

 

[No. 16]

So I take it the nursing student never replied to your FB message? At least you gave it a shot - as the saying goes "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take." Just keep yourself out there and more options will materialize.

Nope.I know today is her birthday through conversation so she is bound to check Facebook unless she gave it up for Lent.Oh wells. She either is just a really nice girl causing me to misread the attraction, I blew it, or she has a BF.After being dumped by the ex, this type of rejection is nothing. Though I've never been afraid of rejection.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Since no pictures have been provided by 16 I have only to rely on my imagination to picture what 16 looks like. I was wondering if others have done the same? For 16 I picture Toad from Grand Torino wearing the same outfit Jet Le wore in lethal weapon, that white suit, while he is grinding on the dance floor. , I still don't have a lock on his X though. Have any other FFB'ers done the same? Or is it just me?

Close.

This is how I envisioned you the first day

 

[No. 16]

Since no pictures have been provided by 16 I have only to rely on my imagination to picture what 16 looks like. I was wondering if others have done the same? For 16 I picture Toad from Grand Torino wearing the same outfit Jet Le wore in lethal weapon, that white suit, while he is grinding on the dance floor. , I still don't have a lock on his X though. Have any other FFB'ers done the same? Or is it just me?

Close.

This is how I envisioned you the first day

haha.I'm almost tempted to post pictures to show you guys how far off you are.

 

[cstu]

Since no pictures have been provided by 16 I have only to rely on my imagination to picture what 16 looks like. I was wondering if others have done the same? For 16 I picture Toad from Grand Torino wearing the same outfit Jet Le wore in lethal weapon, that white suit, while he is grinding on the dance floor. , I still don't have a lock on his X though. Have any other FFB'ers done the same? Or is it just me?

Close.

This is how I envisioned you the first day

haha.I'm almost tempted to post pictures to show you guys how far off you are.

Found it.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

The only dancing that should be done by the average guy is a little two step and head bob. Nothing more.

If No.16 can dance it's a great hook. People need to be helping him build confidence here. Crumming on one of his viable assets is not cool.

You don't even have to be good. Girls love to dance and there are a ton of stiffs who won't. Most girls appreciate any guy that will get out on the floor with them. The rest is up to the guy.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

The only dancing that should be done by the average guy is a little two step and head bob. Nothing more.

If No.16 can dance it's a great hook. People need to be helping him build confidence here. Crumming on one of his viable assets is not cool.

I'm not dissing No. 16. I never saw him dance. But for the average guy who is just an okay dancer, it's a bad look, imo.

Lighten up Francis and stop being so uptight. People go to clubs to have fun.. or at least they did in my day. If you're a bad dancer, have fun with it. Maybe I'm wrong... it's been a while since my clubbing days.

 

[Rick James]

no update yesterday....good sign?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Since no pictures have been provided by 16 I have only to rely on my imagination to picture what 16 looks like. I was wondering if others have done the same? For 16 I picture Toad from Grand Torino wearing the same outfit Jet Le wore in lethal weapon, that white suit, while he is grinding on the dance floor. , I still don't have a lock on his X though. Have any other FFB'ers done the same? Or is it just me?

Close.

This is how I envisioned you the first day

haha.I'm almost tempted to post pictures to show you guys how far off you are.

Found it.

 

[Rick James]

...

 

[No. 16]

Nothing much to update about.

No reply from Cute Nursing Student.

Started texting Arsty Chick but that went no where.

Went out this weekend but nothing eventful happened.

Friday went to a vietnamese bar (think like Vietnamese coffee shops) with go go dancers (possibly under 18 according to the go go dancer roommate) that gave lap dances. I scared off the cutest waitress there early on. I ordered 4 shots of Hennessy and the waitress asked, "You're not buying me one?" and I replied "Nope. Don't you get them for free?" After that she never returned and worked on another table the rest of the night.

Went to a club last night for a friends birthday and the talent there was lacking. Bunch of ugly cougars and fugly people in general. I think the Drake concert in San Jose drained all the talent.

Finally received my BAC from the blood drawing = 0.17. No bueno.

 

[cstu]

Nothing much to update about.

No reply from Cute Nursing Student.

Started texting Arsty Chick but that went no where.

Went out this weekend but nothing eventful happened.

Friday went to a vietnamese bar (think like Vietnamese coffee shops) with go go dancers (possibly under 18 according to the go go dancer roommate) that gave lap dances. I scared off the cutest waitress there early on. I ordered 4 shots of Hennessy and the waitress asked, "You're not buying me one?" and I replied "Nope. Don't you get them for free?" After that she never returned and worked on another table the rest of the night.

Went to a club last night for a friends birthday and the talent there was lacking. Bunch of ugly cougars and fugly people in general. I think the Drake concert in San Jose drained all the talent.

Finally received my BAC from the blood drawing = 0.17. No bueno.

 

[dparker713]

Nothing much to update about.

No reply from Cute Nursing Student.

Started texting Arsty Chick but that went no where.

Went out this weekend but nothing eventful happened.

Friday went to a vietnamese bar (think like Vietnamese coffee shops) with go go dancers (possibly under 18 according to the go go dancer roommate) that gave lap dances. I scared off the cutest waitress there early on. I ordered 4 shots of Hennessy and the waitress asked, "You're not buying me one?" and I replied "Nope. Don't you get them for free?" After that she never returned and worked on another table the rest of the night.

Went to a club last night for a friends birthday and the talent there was lacking. Bunch of ugly cougars and fugly people in general. I think the Drake concert in San Jose drained all the talent.

Finally received my BAC from the blood drawing = 0.17. No bueno.

You're screwed.

 

[gianmarco]

Nothing much to update about.

No reply from Cute Nursing Student.

Started texting Arsty Chick but that went no where.

Went out this weekend but nothing eventful happened.

Friday went to a vietnamese bar (think like Vietnamese coffee shops) with go go dancers (possibly under 18 according to the go go dancer roommate) that gave lap dances. I scared off the cutest waitress there early on. I ordered 4 shots of Hennessy and the waitress asked, "You're not buying me one?" and I replied "Nope. Don't you get them for free?" After that she never returned and worked on another table the rest of the night.

Went to a club last night for a friends birthday and the talent there was lacking. Bunch of ugly cougars and fugly people in general. I think the Drake concert in San Jose drained all the talent.

Finally received my BAC from the blood drawing = 0.17. No bueno.

You're screwed.

 

[valhallan]

Nothing much to update about.

No reply from Cute Nursing Student.

Started texting Arsty Chick but that went no where.

Went out this weekend but nothing eventful happened.

Friday went to a vietnamese bar (think like Vietnamese coffee shops) with go go dancers (possibly under 18 according to the go go dancer roommate) that gave lap dances. I scared off the cutest waitress there early on. I ordered 4 shots of Hennessy and the waitress asked, "You're not buying me one?" and I replied "Nope. Don't you get them for free?" After that she never returned and worked on another table the rest of the night.

Went to a club last night for a friends birthday and the talent there was lacking. Bunch of ugly cougars and fugly people in general. I think the Drake concert in San Jose drained all the talent.

Finally received my BAC from the blood drawing = 0.17. No bueno.

You're screwed.

Hope you got the lawyer.

 

[No. 16]

No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.

1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, community service, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer?

Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and their stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.

So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.

 

[johnnycakes]

No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer? Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and there stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.

Christo will be proud of you for taking responsibility.

 

[Zow]

No point in lawyering up. Just going to plead guilty. No lawyer can get me out of that. There was no injury or property damage. No one else in the car. I was cooperative with the police. No prior convictions.

1st time offenders usually get a fine, dui school, community service, and license suspension. Speaking to attorneys my only "enhancement" would be that my BAC was 2x the legal limit which usually leads to longer DUI school either 6 or 9 months instead of 3. Every lawyer told me that would be the likely outcome of my case unless they could find something in the paperwork. So why waste money on a lawyer?

Talked to a bunch of people who had DUI or know people who had DUI and their stories pretty much back it up. With or without lawyer 1st time offenders in a "simple" DUi case receieved the same punishment.

So I'll save my cash for a lawyer when I need to deal with the board or nursing. If my BAC was .08 or I knew they messed up it would be a no brainer to retain a lawyer.

You answered your question at the end of the previous sentence.