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Next time she cheats on you tell her not to leave a bunch of #### at the guys house that you end up having to pick up.

Next time she cheats on you tell her not to leave a bunch of #### at the guys house that you end up having to pick up.

Shows if she's serious or not about ending things with him and working things out with me. She has to get her stuff, stuff that can't be shipped/she's afraid of losing if she ends things before hand. Fine. Let's do it and be done with him. Otherwise, it's all talk and she wants to keep both options open.What purpose does going to see the PT with her serve?What's so bad about it? I'd rather be with her than not, but if she's not willing to meet any of my needs then I'm willing to move on. This is one last chance to reach out to her. I'm not denying that. I'm hoping she takes it, but if not then I'll move on with my life. Like I said, I wanted to see if you could go back and the way things are headed apparently you can't. If she doesn't say "YES" then I'm immediately booking a flight out to NY for Labor Day weekend to visit a ladyfriend who is out there interning for the summer and I'm calling my buddies to firm up our plans to book an October vacation to the Philippines or Cancun that I was putting off because of the latest events with Alyssa.Mid August - VegasLabor Day Weekend - New YorkLate Sept - VegasLate October - Philippines/CancunWill be having too much fun not to care about her.
Or she can have a friend pick them up.Shows if she's serious or not about ending things with him and working things out with me. She has to get her stuff, stuff that can't be shipped/she's afraid of losing if she ends things before hand. Fine. Let's do it and be done with him. Otherwise, it's all talk and she wants to keep both options open.What purpose does going to see the PT with her serve?What's so bad about it? I'd rather be with her than not, but if she's not willing to meet any of my needs then I'm willing to move on. This is one last chance to reach out to her. I'm not denying that. I'm hoping she takes it, but if not then I'll move on with my life. Like I said, I wanted to see if you could go back and the way things are headed apparently you can't. If she doesn't say "YES" then I'm immediately booking a flight out to NY for Labor Day weekend to visit a ladyfriend who is out there interning for the summer and I'm calling my buddies to firm up our plans to book an October vacation to the Philippines or Cancun that I was putting off because of the latest events with Alyssa.Mid August - VegasLabor Day Weekend - New YorkLate Sept - VegasLate October - Philippines/CancunWill be having too much fun not to care about her.
Feel bad for you, seriously. I know most said at the outset of the thread, but time will help. But make no mistake, she will contact you again. Will you have learned from this? You need to block her number, no stupid app that lets you see her texts. Block the number. Don't talk about her to her friends, or your friends. Let it go, and let time pass. It's hard, but it will pass. And as others have said, take some time off from boozing. Clear your head.And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one. It ####in hurts. Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
[Dr. Evil] Riiiiigggghhhhhttttt...... [/Dr. Evil]I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done.
Dude, you seriously need to get your head around the Roosh, etc. manosphere stuff and out of the clouds. There is no "the one", only chicks who you can make a life with and those who you can't. Coralyssa is bat-#### crazy, don't look back no matter how hot she is. As Silent Bob said in Clerks "..there's a million fine looking women in this world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of them just cheat on you."Truer words have not been said. Seriously, read up on what "alpha" means. I'm rooting for you but you are the definition of beta, no wonder you're more like her brother than a boyfriend, or gay friend you hold hands with. Get some 'tude and stop being such a nice guy. We really are all rooting for you. Now, come back to the x-fit thread and get WOD-drunk instead of real drunk.And that's that. She's at the airport.
She finally replied to my text....
"Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."
I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one.
It ####in hurts.
Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
And now you can move on. Tell your brother all the #### that's been going on. Unload, get it all out. When you wake up tomorrow, move on.And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one. It ####in hurts. Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
Now you can post a pic without feeling bad about it.DO ITAnd that's that. She's at the airport.
She finally replied to my text....
"Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."
I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one.
It ####in hurts.
Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
The text right before this one was 'I don't want to lose you'. This after she said 'I ####### hate you', which came after 'I want to work things out with you'. Now I know all women are crazy, but if you can't see the bat #### crazy coming out of this one, you deserve what you get.She WILL come back with another lovey dovey text. When that happens, remember the text that is going to follow. If you want to spend your life this way, good luck to you. I know I couldn't do it but for every bat #### crazy chick, there's a stupid dude who takes her ####.And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one. It ####in hurts. Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
Quit giving him ideas. Let him make up his own story. He's been going strong for nearly 90 pages now, he knows what he's doing.She WILL come back with another lovey dovey text. When that happens, remember the text that is going to follow. If you want to spend your life this way, good luck to you. I know I couldn't do it but for every bat #### crazy chick, there's a stupid dude who takes her ####.
Set the slutting, manipulation and deception aside for a minute. If anyone ever texted me like this, I'd assume she was a mental midget with the maturity of an 13 year old. Why you would give someone like this opportunity after opportunity to meet any demands whatsoever to become your partner in life is simply mindboggling. You've shown other texts like that over the last 6 months and I just don't get how you brush this stuff aside and move past it. You got stockholm syndrome or something?And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one. It ####in hurts. Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
And you will do this over and over and over again the rest of your life unless you change.Threatening to text the PT is so incredibly childish. You should be bigger than that. You should be better than that. That type of response really shows a lot about you and explains a lot of what's happened thus far. And then you STILL asked her to stay with you? Have you not learned ANYTHING?I honestly hoping she would be willing to bone tonight and do everything I asked but this is what she replied with:"I'm sorry"See, this is her doing what she didn't prepare to do at dinner. I don't agree with some of the above analysis, but clearly this was an attempt to rewrite history. Pretty clear to me she's 100% covering tracks because she dropped the ball. Believe her at the restaurant - that was spontaneous truth. Why in the world would you ever text with a person this duplicitous? I honestly don't get why you responded at all, much less immediately, much much less asking an open ended question. You basically just flopped yourself out of the lake and all the way down the street to the bait shop.let's break this down:"I'm sorry for being so heartless." - i'm feeling guilt for cheating on you, and can't believe you [finally] called me on it.Here's her text to me that I received while in class:
"I'm sorry for being so heartless. I told you already I'm leaving him and I'm coming back to you. I know it's hard to understand but I am leaving him to try and work things out between us. I can't promise you I will call you every night. If I promise and end up not doing it then you'll be upset. I'm trying my best to be honest with you that's why it's irritating me because it's never enough."
Probably shouldn't have but I replied....
"After what you did to me with him words only are not enough. Actions are the only thing I can fully trust right now and if you're not willing to put in the effort then why should I?"
"I told you already I'm leaving him and I'm coming back to you." - i find it hard to believe that's what she told the PT. and she says this right after she tells you, "Honestly, I'm not sure yet what I want. I'm not sure I can make you 100% happy." so which is it? is she coming back to you, or just leaving the PT to string you along so she can find what she really wants.
"I can't promise you I will call you every night." - translation: i don't want [you] as a boyfriend and to be held accountable for anything.
"If I promise and end up not doing it then you'll be upset." - trying to throw a little guilt your way. also, making an excuse as to why she doesn't want to "promise" and then have to be held accountable for her actions.
"I'm trying my best to be honest with you that's why it's irritating me because it's never enough." - i can't believe you showed some spine and aren't letting me continue to steamroll you. it's irritating to have to think about someone besides me. also, why should someone who you loved and presumably want to love again have to "try" to be honest. i think that should come naturally from an honest person.
as to your reply? it wasn't epic, but didn't hurt your position much.
To which I replied:
"Pick up the dog by tomorrow or he's mine forever. I will block your phone number again so that I won't have to deal with you anymore. Not matter how sorry you are, you're not making me a priority in your life, so I don't want u to be a part of mine any longer."
After she sent:
"I just don't understand why you can't see I'm staying up here because I want to work things out with you. I'm gonna stop talking to PT because of you. even though I'm not exactly sure if we''ll work out 100% I'm still willing too do that for you. Those are many actions to prove that I choose you! But I guess it's not enough so fine"
I sent this to her:
"Yah because there's no need to see him. You have family and friends. How the hell did you get home the past 6 years you've been living up here? It should be easy to call me every night. You have a cell phone. You should want to spend as much time with me as possible before you go by spending the night in a hotel.
These are all things I would do for you if it were reversed. If you can't do all these things for me than yah that's fine.
Pick up the dog by tomorrow or you'll never see him again"
She replied...
"Keep him."
Then I said...
"Good bye Alyssa. Hope PT is worth it. Btw I'm gonna text him tomorrow that we've been seeing each other. You deserve to be alone."
That didn't make her happy:
"#### you No.16! Seriously! You are such an #######! I'm already going to end it! Why don't you ####in understand that. I ####in hate you@!!!"
Then she called me. I picked up and pretty much said more of the same. After she hangs up we exchange a few more heated and profanity laced texts and our convo end me...
"3 simple requests: Stay with me tonight, do not see him on your trip back, and call me every night. That's all I ask. Nothing crazy. That's it. Reasonable requests from someone who was cheated on. Ask [GBs GF]. Ask [CLOSEST COUSIN]. Ask anyone. Nothing unreasonable if you truly wanted to end things with him and work things out with me."
And that's how it has been left. I probably didn't need to add that I would tell the PT about us, but I just wanted to make sure she knew I was serious and also just to piss her off a little.
Don't want to stay awake anymore. Just want to sleep it all away.
Look, 99% of the people responding in this thread have been where you are (kind of). We get it. And, despite virtually unanimous advice at nearly every turn that you've ignored and handled poorly on your own, it's understandable that you had to go about this your own way so you could see for yourself. But good God, this has gotten ridiculous. You should have all the information you need and it's been thoroughly translated for you. This girl is abusing you in ways you simply can't see and for once you just need to admit defeat and follow the advice given to you here. Give up the dog, don't talk to her again, and get on with your life already. You can keep being the nutless sap you've been, but at least be that with someone else.
Yep... in fact it's starting to look more like Asian Carp just leaping into the boat now.
She's not like this in person. When we're together everything is great, we have no issues at all. That's why it's so hard for me let go but I need to do it now. I need to stop wasting time.Set the slutting, manipulation and deception aside for a minute. If anyone ever texted me like this, I'd assume she was a mental midget with the maturity of an 13 year old. Why you would give someone like this opportunity after opportunity to meet any demands whatsoever to become your partner in life is simply mindboggling. You've shown other texts like that over the last 6 months and I just don't get how you brush this stuff aside and move past it. You got stockholm syndrome or something?And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one. It ####in hurts. Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
This is gut-wrenching. I really wish the best for you, and to a lesser extent Rusty. I don't really have any advice other than what everyone else has said many times. You've gotta figure this one out for yourself.
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Let him deal with her ####. She's not happy with him or else she wouldn't have started talking to me again. It's only a matter of time before she does to him what she did to me.I have to disagree with everyone saying don't call the PT. That could be the best opportunity for this dude to learn just what a duplicitous bizznatch this woman really is. After some initial awkwardness, once they compare notes and see all the inconsistencies (and come on, there will be dozens), I predict they will talk for 2 hours and end up consoling each other and agreeing this woman is a cancer. I say that with the assumption #16 has a shred of a spine left which admittedly is a leap, but dude, for your own good, I challenge you to make that call. Given the fork in the road where you find yourself, I fail to see the argument against any such measure to find some truth/clarity. I would certainly hope that if she's leaving things open-ended with PT while telling you she's ending it, you'll come to your senses. Though from reading your posts here I give that no more than 50/50. I'm glad you're not a close friend of mine, I may have strangled you by now.
Odds are she already has.How much do you want for the movie rights?Let him deal with her ####. She's not happy with him or else she wouldn't have started talking to me again. It's only a matter of time before she does to him what she did to me.I have to disagree with everyone saying don't call the PT. That could be the best opportunity for this dude to learn just what a duplicitous bizznatch this woman really is. After some initial awkwardness, once they compare notes and see all the inconsistencies (and come on, there will be dozens), I predict they will talk for 2 hours and end up consoling each other and agreeing this woman is a cancer. I say that with the assumption #16 has a shred of a spine left which admittedly is a leap, but dude, for your own good, I challenge you to make that call. Given the fork in the road where you find yourself, I fail to see the argument against any such measure to find some truth/clarity. I would certainly hope that if she's leaving things open-ended with PT while telling you she's ending it, you'll come to your senses. Though from reading your posts here I give that no more than 50/50. I'm glad you're not a close friend of mine, I may have strangled you by now.
Just my opinion, but I'd be willing to bet he was never very serious with her. Probably threw her to the curb once he got tired of the sex (and an awesome trip to Hawaii), which is why she came back to you. Once you gave her the ultimatum of you or him she got upset, because she still wants to be with him. After he ####s her and rejects her again she'll come back to you. Until the next guy...You need to move on and forget about her.Let him deal with her ####. She's not happy with him or else she wouldn't have started talking to me again. It's only a matter of time before she does to him what she did to me.I have to disagree with everyone saying don't call the PT. That could be the best opportunity for this dude to learn just what a duplicitous bizznatch this woman really is. After some initial awkwardness, once they compare notes and see all the inconsistencies (and come on, there will be dozens), I predict they will talk for 2 hours and end up consoling each other and agreeing this woman is a cancer. I say that with the assumption #16 has a shred of a spine left which admittedly is a leap, but dude, for your own good, I challenge you to make that call. Given the fork in the road where you find yourself, I fail to see the argument against any such measure to find some truth/clarity. I would certainly hope that if she's leaving things open-ended with PT while telling you she's ending it, you'll come to your senses. Though from reading your posts here I give that no more than 50/50. I'm glad you're not a close friend of mine, I may have strangled you by now.
Reading all that PUA/alpha/beta talk is partly what drove me to give her a 2nd chance. Between reading that viewpoint of women, experiencing the cheating first hand, and reading all these divorce threads it seems like most women will just cheat anyways no matter what. So I figured, why bother with someone new? Why not try and fix what I know and what was generally a good thing before the cheating?Obviously, that's a ####ed up way of thinking but I'm just explaining everything going on in my mind. Also, I think the uncertainty of my career with the DUI and my license (still haven't heard from the BRN) also got to me. I wanted to try and lock it down with Alyssa (stable job) instead of having to possibly go back out there as a 27 year old with no career.Dude, you seriously need to get your head around the Roosh, etc. manosphere stuff and out of the clouds. There is no "the one", only chicks who you can make a life with and those who you can't. Coralyssa is bat-#### crazy, don't look back no matter how hot she is. As Silent Bob said in Clerks "..there's a million fine looking women in this world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of them just cheat on you."Truer words have not been said. Seriously, read up on what "alpha" means. I'm rooting for you but you are the definition of beta, no wonder you're more like her brother than a boyfriend, or gay friend you hold hands with. Get some 'tude and stop being such a nice guy. We really are all rooting for you. Now, come back to the x-fit thread and get WOD-drunk instead of real drunk.And that's that. She's at the airport.
She finally replied to my text....
"Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."
I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one.
It ####in hurts.
Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
So you're not going to get a chance to vacuum the PT's carpet in SoCal this weekend? Devastating.And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one. It ####in hurts. Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.
ah the memories......time to go hogging my boy!! nothing will make that pain go away faster than a lovely little pork chop doting on your scrawny asian ###.and post a pic of your skanky ex girlfriend already.Nothing will make the hurt go away. It's done. Over. You 2 were too young. She needs/wants to get piped out by a bunch of dudes. You should do the same(but with girls)What you need is a slump buster. Sux0rs, but it's just life.
Boo-hoo, life sucks, Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Get over yourself. This is the same #### you posted 8 months ago. At the time it was a bit understandable because of the tough breakup but c'mon man, grow up. You're 27, the prime of your life, yet you're like a little kid. You broke up with a "girlfriend", you didn't get divorced from your wife, who you made a lifelong committment to, with a few kids involved. What are you going to do when life really gets real? Like when you're 40 or 50 and getting a divorce, or losing your job or house and your parents are sick and dying. For some reason I thought you were 22 or 23, but at 27 you really need to get your #### together. Focus on yourself, be the best you can be at your career and let things come to you. Ten years goes by in a snap. Next thing you know, you'll be 37 and the same sad sack you are now. Life is way too short to waste another second on this psycho #####. I know I'm just wasting my time here. You'll be back with her again.Reading all that PUA/alpha/beta talk is partly what drove me to give her a 2nd chance. Between reading that viewpoint of women, experiencing the cheating first hand, and reading all these divorce threads it seems like most women will just cheat anyways no matter what. So I figured, why bother with someone new? Why not try and fix what I know and what was generally a good thing before the cheating?Obviously, that's a ####ed up way of thinking but I'm just explaining everything going on in my mind. Also, I think the uncertainty of my career with the DUI and my license (still haven't heard from the BRN) also got to me. I wanted to try and lock it down with Alyssa (stable job) instead of having to possibly go back out there as a 27 year old with no career. In this time where my future seems so uncertain and far from stable (my doing of course), I am desperately trying to hold onto what certainty I did have going into this year. This is life though. Nothing is ever easy and it isn't always good times. Gotta stay strong and keep on going. It's just so crazy to think that at this time last year Alyssa and I were talking about buying a home, getting married, and traveling the world. Everything seemed so awesome and settled.
Didn't make it through his edit.when did you call her a slut?
Now you can post a pic without feeling bad about it.DO ITAnd that's that. She's at the airport.
She finally replied to my text....
"Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."
I feel like ####, but at least there's no "What if?" anymore. We're done. I tried. She didn't. It hurts like hell, but I finally gotta let this one go. Really let it go this time. She's not the one.
It ####in hurts.
Can't stay in my room anymore. Gotta hang out with my brother or else I'll go bat ####.![]()

I think she made the right decision...And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."
I didn't disclose this before because when I started the thread I pretended like I didn't know there was another party, even though I really did.A few days after she first broke up with me but when she was still staying at my place there was a time she wanted to "work things out." So I made her give me his number since she listed him under her cousin's name, delete him from her contacts/Facebook, and call him right in front of me to end things with him. She also agreed to give me acess to her phone, Facebook, and email. She did all that, but she still moved out. Should have been a red flag.A few days later after we had eaten dinner I asked her if I could see her phone. Call log had been wiped until just before dinner. Nothing on texts. I was in the process of typing in PT's phone number when a text message comes through whispering sweet nothings...it was from PT but under the name of her cousin. So I called the number back. Spoke calmly to PT and asked him why he has been continuing to text Alyssa after she ended things with him. He said he didn't know. Then I asked if who had been initiating texts, him or Alyssa. He said he didn't know. Then I told him he should just tell me the truth because it will make things a whole lot easier for him beacause I wouldn't fight for her and that he could have her if she was lying to me like this. After that he gave up the goods and told me she told him I made her do it and that they had continued to contact each other. I laughed and then I told him good luck with the her and to be careful because she did the same thing on her last boyfriend with me.Luckily we were close to my home so I tossed her phone into her car and without saying a word to her I just walked home after. I thought this latest attempt to work things out was more serious, but nope it stinks too much. All talk and no action on her part..again. Like they say actions speak louder than words.I like how she is decisive about important things like moving, purchasing a home and relationships. Definitely the kind of girl you want to be your wife and possibly birth your offspring. Serious question, how did you get the PT phone number?, that's weird
Fixed. Geezus, does ANYONE still really believe any of this is for real? Seriously???I didn't disclose this before because when I started the thread I pretended like I didn't know there was another party, even though I really did I just made it up.
That last story swung me closer to the "fishing" camp.Fixed. Geezus, does ANYONE still really believe any of this is for real? Seriously???I didn't disclose this before because when I started the thread I pretended like I didn't know there was another party, even though I really did I just made it up.
What interesting information to leave out.I didn't disclose this before because when I started the thread I pretended like I didn't know there was another party, even though I really did.A few days after she first broke up with me but when she was still staying at my place there was a time she wanted to "work things out." So I made her give me his number since she listed him under her cousin's name, delete him from her contacts/Facebook, and call him right in front of me to end things with him. She also agreed to give me acess to her phone, Facebook, and email. She did all that, but she still moved out. Should have been a red flag.A few days later after we had eaten dinner I asked her if I could see her phone. Call log had been wiped until just before dinner. Nothing on texts. I was in the process of typing in PT's phone number when a text message comes through whispering sweet nothings...it was from PT but under the name of her cousin. So I called the number back. Spoke calmly to PT and asked him why he has been continuing to text Alyssa after she ended things with him. He said he didn't know. Then I asked if who had been initiating texts, him or Alyssa. He said he didn't know. Then I told him he should just tell me the truth because it will make things a whole lot easier for him beacause I wouldn't fight for her and that he could have her if she was lying to me like this. After that he gave up the goods and told me she told him I made her do it and that they had continued to contact each other. I laughed and then I told him good luck with the her and to be careful because she did the same thing on her last boyfriend with me.Luckily we were close to my home so I tossed her phone into her car and without saying a word to her I just walked home after. I thought this latest attempt to work things out was more serious, but nope it stinks too much. All talk and no action on her part..again. Like they say actions speak louder than words.I like how she is decisive about important things like moving, purchasing a home and relationships. Definitely the kind of girl you want to be your wife and possibly birth your offspring. Serious question, how did you get the PT phone number?, that's weird
I disagree... Answer the door nekkid with handcuffsGive your phone to a friend and make them promise not to give it back to you today.Make yourself scarce when she gets off work. Do not hang around your place.Here's her texts from this morning:0537"Good morning. Please trust me when I say I'm going to end everything with PT and work things out with you. I promise I won't do anything to hurt you while I'm gone. And I will do my best to contact you every night."0605"Please believe me! I'm coming back to be with you! Why can't you see that? I want to work things out with YOU! "0610"Can I please see you before I leave today? I have work today but after?"No replies from me.

The night before... "we exchanged a few profanity laced messages."I didn't use the term slut. I called her a whore BTW.Didn't make it through his edit.when did you call her a slut?
LOLMakes all the difference.The night before... "we exchanged a few profanity laced messages."I didn't use the term slut. I called her a whore BTW.Didn't make it through his edit.when did you call her a slut?
Yes. She is also saying that both you and the P/T know what a conniving skank she is so she needs a fresh start with new suckers who will lap it up.I think she made the right decision...And that's that. She's at the airport. She finally replied to my text...."Don't expect #### from me after you've ignored me all ####in day. And calling me a slut. #### you. I'm done. I don't want to deal with all this stupid ####. I don't want either of you guys. I'm done with all this bull####."
I don't believe 16 is fishing but holy hell did he leave out a really, really big piece of information.Your ultimatum was childish and laughably awful. That said, I love her response. Going on the offensive is her only play left if she's going to continue dancing between you both. It's a hail mary but it's worth a shot from her viewpoint.Does your ex have Borderline Personality Disorder?That was pretty important information to leave out earlier.
Like I fessed up before (prior to this story, I don't know how) many pages back I started the thread pretending I didn't know about PT. I guess honestly I knew if I gave up that info early the advice would be unanimous in leaving her alone and that's not what I wanted to hear at that time (...and 88 pages later). Like I said in the OP, I'm an optimistic person and I wanted to hear if there were any stories of people getting back together...particularly those with a happy ending. Didn't get much of those.That last story swung me closer to the "fishing" camp.Fixed. Geezus, does ANYONE still really believe any of this is for real? Seriously???I didn't disclose this before because when I started the thread I pretended like I didn't know there was another party, even though I really did I just made it up.
I think Otis Nixon has some insight into this.Like I fessed up before (prior to this story, I don't know how) many pages back I started the thread pretending I didn't know about PT. I guess honestly I knew if I gave up that info early the advice would be unanimous in leaving her alone and that's not what I wanted to hear at that time (...and 88 pages later). Like I said in the OP, I'm an optimistic person and I wanted to hear if there were any stories of people getting back together...particularly those with a happy ending. Didn't get much of those.That last story swung me closer to the "fishing" camp.Fixed. Geezus, does ANYONE still really believe any of this is for real? Seriously???I didn't disclose this before because when I started the thread I pretended like I didn't know there was another party, even though I really did I just made it up.
I agree with your general message but to say I just "broke up with a GF" is BS. We were together for 7 years. How many marriages last that long? That's practically 1/4th of my life on Earth and pretty much my entire adult life. Sure we didn't have kids and we weren't married, but it doesn't make it any less devesating. I can't imagine the emotional pain of a divorce being much different aside from the emotions attached with the kids. I was in love with her and was planning to marry her. My mind was already commited to forever.Also, I could lose my job as a result of the DUI so that's something on the back of my mind as well. So right now I am experiencing a divorce and I'm working knowing that it could all be taken away very soon. There are tons of people worse off then me, so I am thankful. However, I think this is still a difficult time in my life and much more than just "breaking up with a GF."Boo-hoo, life sucks, Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Get over yourself. This is the same #### you posted 8 months ago. At the time it was a bit understandable because of the tough breakup but c'mon man, grow up. You're 27, the prime of your life, yet you're like a little kid. You broke up with a "girlfriend", you didn't get divorced from your wife, who you made a lifelong committment to, with a few kids involved. What are you going to do when life really gets real? Like when you're 40 or 50 and getting a divorce, or losing your job or house and your parents are sick and dying. For some reason I thought you were 22 or 23, but at 27 you really need to get your #### together. Focus on yourself, be the best you can be at your career and let things come to you. Ten years goes by in a snap. Next thing you know, you'll be 37 and the same sad sack you are now. Life is way too short to waste another second on this psycho #####. I know I'm just wasting my time here. You'll be back with her again.Reading all that PUA/alpha/beta talk is partly what drove me to give her a 2nd chance. Between reading that viewpoint of women, experiencing the cheating first hand, and reading all these divorce threads it seems like most women will just cheat anyways no matter what. So I figured, why bother with someone new? Why not try and fix what I know and what was generally a good thing before the cheating?Obviously, that's a ####ed up way of thinking but I'm just explaining everything going on in my mind. Also, I think the uncertainty of my career with the DUI and my license (still haven't heard from the BRN) also got to me. I wanted to try and lock it down with Alyssa (stable job) instead of having to possibly go back out there as a 27 year old with no career. In this time where my future seems so uncertain and far from stable (my doing of course), I am desperately trying to hold onto what certainty I did have going into this year. This is life though. Nothing is ever easy and it isn't always good times. Gotta stay strong and keep on going. It's just so crazy to think that at this time last year Alyssa and I were talking about buying a home, getting married, and traveling the world. Everything seemed so awesome and settled.