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Wish the ex would move to SoCal already and get hitched with the PT.Wanted to hang out with my friends after working out and watch the Dubs games, but of course my GB's GF is there cooking dinner with my ex.
In those times, you get ready to go out, lookin and smellin good, walk in the kitchen, say nothing, don't even look at them, grab some of what they're cooking, take a bite, and walk out.
 
Wish the ex would move to SoCal already and get hitched with the PT.Wanted to hang out with my friends after working out and watch the Dubs games, but of course my GB's GF is there cooking dinner with my ex.
In those times, you get ready to go out, lookin and smellin good, walk in the kitchen, say nothing, don't even look at them, grab some of what they're cooking, take a bite, and walk out.
We don't live at the same place. Would have to go to my GB's apartment.Just gonna have to get used to it. This stuff will happen as long as my GB and his GF are still together.
 
Wish the ex would move to SoCal already and get hitched with the PT.Wanted to hang out with my friends after working out and watch the Dubs games, but of course my GB's GF is there cooking dinner with my ex.
In those times, you get ready to go out, lookin and smellin good, walk in the kitchen, say nothing, don't even look at them, grab some of what they're cooking, take a bite, and walk out.
We don't live at the same place. Would have to go to my GB's apartment.Just gonna have to get used to it. This stuff will happen as long as my GB and his GF are still together.
You really need to prepare yourself that you're not attending their wedding.
 
Wish the ex would move to SoCal already and get hitched with the PT.Wanted to hang out with my friends after working out and watch the Dubs games, but of course my GB's GF is there cooking dinner with my ex.
In those times, you get ready to go out, lookin and smellin good, walk in the kitchen, say nothing, don't even look at them, grab some of what they're cooking, take a bite, and walk out.
We don't live at the same place. Would have to go to my GB's apartment.Just gonna have to get used to it. This stuff will happen as long as my GB and his GF are still together.
You really need to prepare yourself that you're not attending their wedding.
Don't even see that as a possibility.I've known my GB since 4th grade and during this process his GF has been on "my side" as much as a neutral party can be. They've always invited me to things and just let me know she would be there.Just been my choice lately to avoid these situations all together for now.
 
Did you take this new chick, or the ex, to pound town yet?
No action yet. Been playing it a bit slow with the new chick on Facebook. We haven't exchanged any messages since we added each other last week, but she has been "liking" a few of my status updates/comments. Not a huge sign but maybe it's something. At work today I saw the thank you card her class left the unit so I figure I'll use that to spur a conversation via chat. Think I need to let her know I'm interested to get the action going.As fot the ex. Nothing new. Number still blocked and no craziness to report. Though I did go through a rough patch early this week emotion wise. Seemed like this week everyone (Parents, friends, bro) wanted to get an update of how I was feeling. Probably because they saw I was doing well... but then just talking about it got me thinking all over again. Didn't act on it, but I did miss the ex for a bit. However going to a vietnamese bar (basically a non-nude strip club) and remembering how much of a ##### she is fixed that.Hawaii trip is coming up soon so hopefully after I'll have something to update about.
 
Just a small update, not much to see here....yet.So like I previously mentioned I had been playing it slow with the Post-It Note Nursing Student since we became friends on Facebook two weeks ago. We had been "interacting" on Facebook through likes, commenting on general status updates, etc but no direct communication of any type for the first week: no messages, wall posts, or chats.With a week past and no direct interaction I figure I need to make some type of move. She did initiate everything with the post it note on my locker, so I figured she was waiting to see if the interest was mutual. So Monday night, I opened up a chat discussion with her. Here is our discussion in it's entirety. Edited of course to protect the innocent, but not edited to prevent you guys from laughing at my terrible game.

#16: HiHer: hellooo. hw are u?#16: Saw your groups card. Looks like I missed your last day of clinicals. Good. How about you?Her: YES! Done with clinicals i'm so glad! haha i'm okay just hanging out now. aside from finals we're pretty much done this semester.#16: Nice! Must feel good. More time to party nowHer: lol. do you go out a lot here in [insert Bay Area City]?#16: yah usually go to [lounge A] or [club B].Her: i heard [club B] closed is that true. haven't been there in a while and i go to [that lounge]. i work like a block away from there#16: [Club B] didn't close just thursday's is a new promoter. where do you work again?Her: it's called [swanky restaurant] IDK i just haven't been in [club b] i guess lol#16: like never?Her: haha no not like never. i haven't been there since winter break. we were gonna go for my friend's birthday last month. they went on a thursday and the club was dead..like, they were the only ones there.#16: Yah same thing when I went last time, which was before the new promoters. now they have: no cover, $3 well drinks, and $6 dollar shots all night.Her: awesome. yea i use to go on 2 dollar tuesdays. no cover as well but i haven't been there since no one wants to go there.#16: Yah same with my friends. Curious to see how it is now with the new promotersHer: might need to check that out soon then! lol. how do you know [our only mutual friend according to facebook]#16: we should drag our friends so it wont be so dead. He was my roommate for a semester or two.Her: [Mutual friend] is cool. met him at [insert recent rave].#16: yah he's cool peoples. We actually kinda shared a room since the set up of our apartment was weirdHer: aw so cute#16: clean dude. did you decide on EDC?Her: we're going on Friday :) we should meet up! i think [mutual friend] is staying with my good friendat the Venetian.#16: we shall. we'll go to a pool partyHer: i wanna gooo. it looks like fun.#16: It is, after that you'll think the clubs are whack
So that was the end of our conversation. Seemed pretty terrible to me, didn't really get to discuss anything interesting, it ended abruptly, and she kept mentioned my ex-roommate a couple of times. Wasn't my best shot, but I gave it shot and knew I just had to wait until she responded back, if she did at all. Tuesday passed without a word and I was beginning to think I blew it. That is until about an hour ago when she opens up a chat with me. Paraphrased:
Her: are you flying to vegas?#16: Nope gonna take a party bus there. Might fly back though.Her: If you decide to fly, let me know. I haven't booked yet.#16: There's still room in the party bus. It's cheap considering it'll will shuttle us to EDC from our hotels. Her: I have points so my flight will be free. Who is going on the bus?#16: Honestly, don't know. Just know my brother and my friend. The rest will all be strangers to me. Always down to party with new people. Her: When is it leaving?#16: Will be Friday-Monday, but I'm most likely gonna fly back. Driving back from Vegas is terrible.Her: lol. We'll figure it out then. Text me. (161)6161616#16: Sounds good. Well I have to go. About to head to the gym.Her: alrightie!
So looks like all systems are a go with this chick. A different lady friend invited me to go a club event her sorority is holding this Friday, figure I'll fire out a text to this chick to stop by.
 
I'm not sure I buy this. I tried texting (161) 616-1616 to confirm it was a real girl and it's not even a real number. Also, agree not to go with girl to sorority club party. You seriously need to read Roosh V's stuff. I even bought his books "Bang" and "Day Bang" for fun and to support the dude. I'm married and think it's good stuff for single guys. I like where you're going since you blocked the texts and started focusing on yourself. Now it's time to learn like a jedi and unlearn all your bad habits.

 
So looks like all systems are a go with this chick. A different lady friend invited me to go a club event her sorority is holding this Friday, figure I'll fire out a text to this chick to stop by.
Do you also bring sand to the beach?
 
So looks like all systems are a go with this chick. A different lady friend invited me to go a club event her sorority is holding this Friday, figure I'll fire out a text to this chick to stop by.
Do you also bring sand to the beach?
These clubs events (at least the ones at this particular university) rarely turn out as great as they sound. If it were at a sorority house different story, but it will still be a suasagefest at the club with the sorority inviting whatever 3 fraternities they are whoring for. Also, don't think I made my intentions clear. I'll go with my boys to the club, take a sniff around, and if nothing looks promising fire out a text to her.
 
So looks like all systems are a go with this chick. A different lady friend invited me to go a club event her sorority is holding this Friday,***figure I'll fire out a text to this chick to stop by.***
Do you also bring sand to the beach?
These clubs events (at least the ones at this particular university) rarely turn out as great as they sound. If it were at a sorority house different story,***but it will still be a suasagefest at the club with the sorority inviting whatever 3 fraternities they are whoring for.*** Also, don't think I made my intentions clear. I'll go with my boys to the club, take a sniff around, and if nothing looks promising fire out a text to her.
Why, why, why would you even consider bringing your new, sweet, little lost lamb into a den of ravenous, craven wolves? Why?
 
So looks like all systems are a go with this chick. A different lady friend invited me to go a club event her sorority is holding this Friday, figure I'll fire out a text to this chick to stop by.
Do you also bring sand to the beach?
These clubs events (at least the ones at this particular university) rarely turn out as great as they sound. If it were at a sorority house different story, but it will still be a suasagefest at the club with the sorority inviting whatever 3 fraternities they are whoring for. Also, don't think I made my intentions clear. I'll go with my boys to the club, take a sniff around, and if nothing looks promising fire out a text to her.
That's not where you bring a chick you just met. Why open yourself up to competition like that?
 
Haha point taken.

I can always move it somewhere else though. Lots of different spots to drink downtown.

Also you guys have to remember I can't drive. So I have to be a little creative and am at the mercy of my buddies as far as where I go.

 
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She's given you plenty of attention for you to act on. #### she even wants to take a flight with you aka long sit down time together to get to know each other. You should make a move prior to your Vegas trip.

 
Holy crap... I really feel old reading that FB exchange. Do people really talk/text/IM like that? Ugh. I weep for our future.

 
Golly I wouldn't take a girl I had any interest in to a club rave party bus. Can't you nail a skank easy enough on that trip?

Dont mention that again and ask her out to meet you some night post rave when your glow sticks are put away. You seem to be trying to get groups of friends to buffer your interactions with girls. But that doesn't appear to be working.

 
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Golly I wouldn't take a girl I had any interest in to a club rave party bus. Can't you nail a skank easy enough on that trip?

Dont mention that again and ask her out to meet you some night post rave when your glow sticks are put away. You seem to be trying to get groups of friends to buffer your interactions with girls. But that doesn't appear to be working.
The reason that seems to be the case is with my DUI I can't drive. So I have to go somewhere with my friends and then extract her from the situation.
 
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'Beerguzzler said:
She's given you plenty of attention for you to act on. #### she even wants to take a flight with you aka long sit down time together to get to know each other. You should make a move prior to your Vegas trip.
This is what I'm angling towards. We'll see when I can set it up.
 
"Game Night"

This girl.

So last night I went out with my brother, friend, and lady friend to downtown. We went to the soririty party at the club and it was pretty much what I expected and even worse since it ended up being an 18 and up event. Meaning lots of dudes...young dudes and not enough women.

So I sent a text out to Post It Note Girl and let her know I was downtown. Around 2230 we exchange a couple of texts of her inquiring where I was going to be and cover charge at said club. Apparently, I wasn't responding fast enough and she ended up calling me to sort out my plan. The jist of our convo was:

Her: "Hey. i just got off work. Where are you going to be tonight?"

#16: "Gonna be at Club C, my lady friend is meeting some friends there."

Her: "Okay. Is there cover?"

#16: "Yah, I think so. My friend needs to make an appearance here to meet up with friends."

Her: "Okay. We'll see."

So I was at the the club just enjoying myself and getting drunk and then she texts me about 15 minutes later:

"Meet you at Club D?"

I respond about 5 minutes later, "Yah, I'll stop by."

So stay at the sorority club event and have a couple more shots of Patron with my friends. Again, just enjoying myself.

Around 2330 I get a text from her:

"Come by, It's just me and [my exroommate/mutual friend] here."

After receiving the text I'm wondering a bit. I was expecting her to be with co-workers since she just got off work and like she said previously works near by, but being there with the ex roomie sets off some alarms. I ask the lady friend I was with what she thought about the situation and she said I should still go, the ex-roommate likely means nothing since she wouldn't ask me to come by if she wasn't interested. My friends didn't want to leave the sorority event since the friend my friends were waiting to meet with just arrived. They said to go ahead and they'll meet me there. So around 0000 I head over to where Post It Note Girl is at.

I arrive there, and didn't see the girl and exroommate immediately so I head to the bar and grab an IPA to sip on. Ever curious I walk around the dance floor to see the talent for the night. Decent. On my way back to the bar I see my ex-roommate and we greet each each other. A few moments later she appears and she looks great in some nice jeans shorts that barely cover her cheeks, showcasing her legs, a backless red top with breasts larger than I remember, and bright red lipstick.

I greet her with a hug and the three of us chat for a bit. I buy 3 shots of Jameson and then we make our way to the dance floor. I'm leading the pack with post it note girl behind me but in front of my exroommate. As we are walking my exroommate says to girl, "You need to find a girl for #16 to dance with." So his intrest in her is confirmed. "I can get my own girl. No worries." I reply as sift through the dance floor. As I make my way through the crowd I purposely separated myself from them and start dancing with the closest decent looking chick nearby.

A few minutes later Post It Note Girl comes by, takes my hand, and pulls me away from the chick I'm grinding on. We start dancing and just having a good time. My hands grasp her bare back as her hips sway side to side. Our eyes are locked, she's smiling, and I can tell she's into it. I say something about how good she looks for coming from work and then she says, "Oh I went home to change and I called [exroommate] to pick me up." Interesting. We dance for about 20-30 minutes and then she says, "Where's [exroommate]? We should find him." I tell her, "Who cares? I'm sure he's fine." She replies, "But he drove me here. I feel bad."

So we head off the dance floor, hand in hand, looking for my exroommate. At the bar I see my friends and I introduce her to them. Eventually my exroommate finds us and we're all just chatting. Not wanting to be clingy and actually just being bored I grab my lady friend that I drove with and head to the dancefloor. That's the last I saw of Post It Note Girl that night.

The club closes around 0130 and on my way out I check my phone and she sent a text:

"It was nice seeing you tonight boo."

I have yet to reply. Honestly, not sure what to reply bc the whole ex roommate thing is weird twist. He's certainly a worthy adversary. My thinking is to send some type of reply, but then after that don't contact her again. Not sure of her interest level in exroommate or if he's just a #### test.

What do you think FFA?

 
Good to hear you're taking it easy on the booze.
:banned: be a man, call her up and ask her out/meet her out Ply her with alcohol. have the sechs with her. Wear a condom this time.
This. She likes you or she wouldn't have invited you to meet. The ex dude is no threat. Well he wasn't until you ditched her at the bar. Heck what's the difference between you and your lady friend and her and that dude?

Sadly, once again. FAIL.

Call her now and invite her out or you will never see her and her nice big boobies again.

 
Good to hear you're taking it easy on the booze.
:banned: be a man, call her up and ask her out/meet her out Ply her with alcohol. have the sechs with her. Wear a condom this time.
This. She likes you or she wouldn't have invited you to meet. The ex dude is no threat. Well he wasn't until you ditched her at the bar. Heck what's the difference between you and your lady friend and her and that dude?

Sadly, once again. FAIL.

Call her now and invite her out or you will never see her and her nice big boobies again.
True. However they just met a couple weeks ago and she always brings him up. I'd love to meet up with her but I need to be creative given the fact that I can't drive yet.
 
Good to hear you're taking it easy on the booze.
:banned: be a man, call her up and ask her out/meet her out Ply her with alcohol. have the sechs with her. Wear a condom this time.
This. She likes you or she wouldn't have invited you to meet. The ex dude is no threat. Well he wasn't until you ditched her at the bar. Heck what's the difference between you and your lady friend and her and that dude?

Sadly, once again. FAIL.

Call her now and invite her out or you will never see her and her nice big boobies again.
True. However they just met a couple weeks ago and she always brings him up. I'd love to meet up with her but I need to be creative given the fact that I can't drive yet.
There are dudes that want to bang every chick that you do, why even think about him?You like hotels :lmao: get one in the city next weekend. Invite her out. See above.

 
Good to hear you're taking it easy on the booze.
:banned: be a man, call her up and ask her out/meet her out Ply her with alcohol. have the sechs with her. Wear a condom this time.
This. She likes you or she wouldn't have invited you to meet. The ex dude is no threat. Well he wasn't until you ditched her at the bar. Heck what's the difference between you and your lady friend and her and that dude?

Sadly, once again. FAIL.

Call her now and invite her out or you will never see her and her nice big boobies again.
True. However they just met a couple weeks ago and she always brings him up. I'd love to meet up with her but I need to be creative given the fact that I can't drive yet.
There are dudes that want to bang every chick that you do, why even think about him?You like hotels :lmao: get one in the city next weekend. Invite her out. See above.
Hahah. Good idea will have to implement that after I comeback from Hawaii.
 
For the first time, you actually played it cool and not so desperate. Even if it ends up backfiring this time, that's a HUGE improvement. This is how it should be for now. I'd venture to guess your seeming "disinterest" probably made her more interested in you, not less.

At this point, make that next move as others said. Call her and ask her out. This time, though, stop getting other people involved and make it a date.

And seriously, lay off the alcohol this time. First, it's starting to look like you have a problem with alcohol. See if you can go out without having any. If you can't, that's an issue. More importantly, she's going to eventually find out about your DUI if this goes anywhere at all. And that's ok. But, if she finds out and then thinks about all the times she's seen you drinking, she's also going to assume (and probably rightfully so) that you have a problem and could easily become an issue going forward.

Lay off the booze. It's not necessary to have a good time.

 
Does your mutual friend/ex-roommmate know about your DUI? If so, the post-it note girl probably knows then too since the guy is obviously trying to make a play for her. The fact she went after you on the dance floor and texted after shows she is interested in you though. Just try to meet up with her without the other guy around. If she can't do that, then find someone else. She's not worth the hassle and games.

 
Good advice gianmarco on the drinking/perception.

Skillz don't think he knows. Only my family and really close friends know. Agreed. We'll see. Working until I leave for Hawaii so not much time this week. Will probably call her to discuss travel arrangments for Vegas.

 
Are you sure that you are 26, this whole scenario, as well as this thread, seems very immature. If you like the girl, ask her out. If you are worried about your buddy call him and let him know that you and this girl have been talking. Don't be a Richard about it but let him know that you are interested as well. Sounds like the girl is using him anyway so you are probably doing him a favor; in fact, it sounds like he is a doormat so maybe he can drive you two around. Why do you feel like you need to meet a girl in the club? You seem to have a hard time with one on one interaction. Try this: Call girl and ask her to meet you either at a lounge or dinner (some guys on this board don't like the dinner thing, I could go either way). Spend the night with her instead of getting drunk at a club. You can still have drinks but you don’t have to worry about 20 other dudes trying to hit on your girl. If she likes you, your chances of getting lucky go up exponentially.

 
Are you sure that you are 26, this whole scenario, as well as this thread, seems very immature. If you like the girl, ask her out. If you are worried about your buddy call him and let him know that you and this girl have been talking. Don't be a Richard about it but let him know that you are interested as well. Sounds like the girl is using him anyway so you are probably doing him a favor; in fact, it sounds like he is a doormat so maybe he can drive you two around. Why do you feel like you need to meet a girl in the club? You seem to have a hard time with one on one interaction. Try this: Call girl and ask her to meet you either at a lounge or dinner (some guys on this board don't like the dinner thing, I could go either way). Spend the night with her instead of getting drunk at a club. You can still have drinks but you don’t have to worry about 20 other dudes trying to hit on your girl. If she likes you, your chances of getting lucky go up exponentially.
I'm not afraid nor do I have a hard time with one on one interaction. Actually, looking forward to it because I present myself tons better in person than text, phone calls, etc. I'll ask her out eventually, but like I mentioned previously things this week are pretty busy for me. I'm leaving for Hawaii on Thursday and I work everyday until then (1500-2330) so no real free time to ask her out this week. Only reason, I invited her out last Friday was because I was in the area (again I can't drive) and the club we were at wasn't the best. If she showed, great, if she didn't, no biggie [how do you properly punctuate this sentence? ",", ":", or ";"?]. I would have had fun either way. Also don't see why I need to let my buddy know and honestly, there's not much to know at this point. We've only met each other twice (my break at work and Friday) and only had 2 real "chat" sessions on Facebook. Not much ground to call "dibs" and even then what does it matter? He's a dude and I'm a dude and our friendship isn't "that" close. I have no expectations or hopes with this girl. If nothing happens, if we become friends with benefits, or something more doesn't really matter to me. Just going with the flow. She's a cool chick and certainly the type of person I would want a relationship with vs the HI coke dealer, who I knew all I wanted was to bang her, but we'll see.
 
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Are you sure that you are 26, this whole scenario, as well as this thread, seems very immature. If you like the girl, ask her out. If you are worried about your buddy call him and let him know that you and this girl have been talking. Don't be a Richard about it but let him know that you are interested as well. Sounds like the girl is using him anyway so you are probably doing him a favor; in fact, it sounds like he is a doormat so maybe he can drive you two around. Why do you feel like you need to meet a girl in the club? You seem to have a hard time with one on one interaction. Try this: Call girl and ask her to meet you either at a lounge or dinner (some guys on this board don't like the dinner thing, I could go either way). Spend the night with her instead of getting drunk at a club. You can still have drinks but you don’t have to worry about 20 other dudes trying to hit on your girl. If she likes you, your chances of getting lucky go up exponentially.
I'm not afraid nor do I have a hard time with one on one interaction. Actually, looking forward to it because I present myself tons better in person than text, phone calls, etc. I'll ask her out eventually, but like I mentioned previously things this week are pretty busy for me. I'm leaving for Hawaii on Thursday and I work everyday until then (1500-2330) so no real free time to ask her out this week. Only reason, I invited her out last Friday was because I was in the area (again I can't drive) and the club we were at wasn't the best. If she showed, great, if she didn't, no biggie [how do you properly punctuate this sentence? ",", ":", or ";"?]. I would have had fun either way. Also don't see why I need to let my buddy know and honestly, there's not much to know at this point. We've only met each other twice (my break at work and Friday) and only had 2 real "chat" sessions on Facebook. Not much ground to call "dibs" and even then what does it matter? He's a dude and I'm a dude and our friendship isn't "that" close. I have no expectations or hopes with this girl. If nothing happens, if we become friends with benefits, or something more doesn't really matter to me. Just going with the flow.
I fear the corndog honeymoon has ended. ;)
 
Are you sure that you are 26, this whole scenario, as well as this thread, seems very immature. If you like the girl, ask her out. If you are worried about your buddy call him and let him know that you and this girl have been talking. Don't be a Richard about it but let him know that you are interested as well. Sounds like the girl is using him anyway so you are probably doing him a favor; in fact, it sounds like he is a doormat so maybe he can drive you two around. Why do you feel like you need to meet a girl in the club? You seem to have a hard time with one on one interaction. Try this: Call girl and ask her to meet you either at a lounge or dinner (some guys on this board don't like the dinner thing, I could go either way). Spend the night with her instead of getting drunk at a club. You can still have drinks but you don’t have to worry about 20 other dudes trying to hit on your girl. If she likes you, your chances of getting lucky go up exponentially.
I'm not afraid nor do I have a hard time with one on one interaction. Actually, looking forward to it because I present myself tons better in person than text, phone calls, etc. I'll ask her out eventually, but like I mentioned previously things this week are pretty busy for me. I'm leaving for Hawaii on Thursday and I work everyday until then (1500-2330) so no real free time to ask her out this week. Only reason, I invited her out last Friday was because I was in the area (again I can't drive) and the club we were at wasn't the best. If she showed, great, if she didn't, no biggie [how do you properly punctuate this sentence? ",", ":", or ";"?]. I would have had fun either way.

Also don't see why I need to let my buddy know and honestly, there's not much to know at this point. We've only met each other twice (my break at work and Friday) and only had 2 real "chat" sessions on Facebook. Not much ground to call "dibs" and even then what does it matter? He's a dude and I'm a dude and our friendship isn't "that" close.

I have no expectations or hopes with this girl. If nothing happens, if we become friends with benefits, or something more doesn't really matter to me. Just going with the flow. She's a cool chick and certainly the type of person I would want a relationship with vs the HI coke dealer, who I knew all I wanted was to bang her, but we'll see.
With this attitude your buddy has a much better shot than you, although from your description earlier she clearly was more into you. Two weeks from now you are going to be crying us a river about how wild and crazy your buddy is telling you that this chick is. Fortunately, you have a bunch of excuses why you didn't have time for her. :rolleyes: I guess that i read into the other guy as being a closer friend so don't worry about calling him. If it was a better buddy it never hurts to be upfront and honest. All-in-all, my point stands. You need to find a different environment if you want to start landing a worthwhile gal....You couldn't do any worse. What the heck to I know, I am just an old, married Italian dude.

 
Are you sure that you are 26, this whole scenario, as well as this thread, seems very immature. If you like the girl, ask her out. If you are worried about your buddy call him and let him know that you and this girl have been talking. Don't be a Richard about it but let him know that you are interested as well. Sounds like the girl is using him anyway so you are probably doing him a favor; in fact, it sounds like he is a doormat so maybe he can drive you two around. Why do you feel like you need to meet a girl in the club? You seem to have a hard time with one on one interaction. Try this: Call girl and ask her to meet you either at a lounge or dinner (some guys on this board don't like the dinner thing, I could go either way). Spend the night with her instead of getting drunk at a club. You can still have drinks but you don’t have to worry about 20 other dudes trying to hit on your girl. If she likes you, your chances of getting lucky go up exponentially.
I'm not afraid nor do I have a hard time with one on one interaction. Actually, looking forward to it because I present myself tons better in person than text, phone calls, etc. I'll ask her out eventually, but like I mentioned previously things this week are pretty busy for me. I'm leaving for Hawaii on Thursday and I work everyday until then (1500-2330) so no real free time to ask her out this week. Only reason, I invited her out last Friday was because I was in the area (again I can't drive) and the club we were at wasn't the best. If she showed, great, if she didn't, no biggie [how do you properly punctuate this sentence? ",", ":", or ";"?]. I would have had fun either way.

Also don't see why I need to let my buddy know and honestly, there's not much to know at this point. We've only met each other twice (my break at work and Friday) and only had 2 real "chat" sessions on Facebook. Not much ground to call "dibs" and even then what does it matter? He's a dude and I'm a dude and our friendship isn't "that" close.

I have no expectations or hopes with this girl. If nothing happens, if we become friends with benefits, or something more doesn't really matter to me. Just going with the flow. She's a cool chick and certainly the type of person I would want a relationship with vs the HI coke dealer, who I knew all I wanted was to bang her, but we'll see.
With this attitude your buddy has a much better shot than you, although from your description earlier she clearly was more into you. Two weeks from now you are going to be crying us a river about how wild and crazy your buddy is telling you that this chick is. Fortunately, you have a bunch of excuses why you didn't have time for her. :rolleyes: I guess that i read into the other guy as being a closer friend so don't worry about calling him. If it was a better buddy it never hurts to be upfront and honest. All-in-all, my point stands. You need to find a different environment if you want to start landing a worthwhile gal....You couldn't do any worse. What the heck to I know, I am just an old, married Italian dude.
I was planning on calling her next week to set something up after I returned. Is it better to call this week to set something up for next week? Seems like a lot of time, but I guess the point is to let her know I'm interested and taking initiative.
 
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With this attitude your buddy has a much better shot than you, although from your description earlier she clearly was more into you. Two weeks from now you are going to be crying us a river about how wild and crazy your buddy is telling you that this chick is. Fortunately, you have a bunch of excuses why you didn't have time for her. :rolleyes: I guess that i read into the other guy as being a closer friend so don't worry about calling him. If it was a better buddy it never hurts to be upfront and honest. All-in-all, my point stands. You need to find a different environment if you want to start landing a worthwhile gal....You couldn't do any worse. What the heck to I know, I am just an old, married Italian dude.
I will agree with your first sentence at least in the short term, but No. 16's new attitude of not putting the P on a pedestal or getting expectations up or creating a fantasy relationship in his mind is a big improvement. Whether or not he lands this chick in the future doesn't matter as there are many other women out there. His actions at the club seemed appropriate, aloof, and if anything the chick is probably thinking how mysterious No. 16 is and his status is being validated by other (girl) friends and playing it pretty alpha if what we read we are to believe. His ex-roommate could be in the friend-zone for all we know. :thumbup: No. 16, you're getting there. Have fun on the island and vegas!
 
I was planning on calling her next week to set something up after I returned. Is it better to call this week to set something up for next week? Seems like a lot of time, but I guess the point is to let her know I'm interested and taking initiative.
Text her a picture of your junk. Thank me later.
 

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