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I Had him in before reading this thread but just wanted to give ya props for this analysis. Don't recognize your name yet but ill be keeping an eye out for your posts going forwardLet me add one more line to my performance rundown from before the game...- Knowshon Moreno (Week 14) - 22.7 Fantasy Points (36 Touches, 167 Combined Yards, 1 TD)And as with the past two weeks, 4 pass completions.Enjoy the early lead, fellas!Moreno has received 24 touches each game since taking over the lead back duties in Denver.Players with a similar touch-per-game total vs. the Raiders this season:- Reggie Bush (Week 2) - 31.7 Fantasy Points (29 Touches, 197 Combined Yards, 2 TDs)- Willis McGahee (Week 4) - 19.5 Fantasy Points (25 Touches, 135 Combined Yards, 1 TD)- Rashad Jennings (Week 7) - 16.2 Fantasy Points (28 Touches, 102 Combined Yards, 1 TD)- Doug Martin (Week 9) - 51.2 Fantasy Points (29 Touches, 272 Combined Yards, 4 TDs)- BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Week 12) - 19.8 Fantasy Points (20 Touches, 138 Combined Yards, 1 TD)- Trent Richardson (Week 13) - 15.5 Fantasy Points (23 Touches, 95 Combined Yards, 1 TD)That's good news against the league's 5th worst fantasy run defense (#1 in points allowed to RBs over the past 5 weeks). If terrible Rashad Jennings can deliver a quality fantasy performance despite running 2.1 yards per carry against these guys, Knowshon should be able to deliver.* For those of you in PPR leagues, Moreno has caught 4 passes each week as well.![]()
That's how championships are won.. rely too heavily on RB's in the regular season and they will burn you in the playoffs.. build a strong QB/WR/TE core and the RB's will come out of the woodwork by playoff time and then you are golden.In one league my RB's sucked all year and I somehow barely got into the playoffs. I picked up Moreno and Bryce Brown and suddenly my team is looking strong. Those two pickups this late in the season have been huge.
Congrats to everyone in this thread who rolled with him.Not Martin and not Spiller.It is a good matchup, just not a fan of TNF production this year.
Did I only put him in at flex because Shorts is questionable? YepWill I take it? Hell yes.Congrats to everyone in this thread who rolled with him.Not Martin and not Spiller.It is a good matchup, just not a fan of TNF production this year.
I did start him over Spiller only because of the matchup. St. Louis D has been gaining momentum.Did I only put him in at flex because Shorts is questionable? YepWill I take it? Hell yes.Congrats to everyone in this thread who rolled with him.Not Martin and not Spiller.It is a good matchup, just not a fan of TNF production this year.![]()
me too, this sealed it for me, started him with confidence.. thankyou!!I Had him in before reading this thread but just wanted to give ya props for this analysis. Don't recognize your name yet but ill be keeping an eye out for your posts going forwardLet me add one more line to my performance rundown from before the game...- Knowshon Moreno (Week 14) - 22.7 Fantasy Points (36 Touches, 167 Combined Yards, 1 TD)And as with the past two weeks, 4 pass completions.Enjoy the early lead, fellas!Moreno has received 24 touches each game since taking over the lead back duties in Denver.Players with a similar touch-per-game total vs. the Raiders this season:- Reggie Bush (Week 2) - 31.7 Fantasy Points (29 Touches, 197 Combined Yards, 2 TDs)- Willis McGahee (Week 4) - 19.5 Fantasy Points (25 Touches, 135 Combined Yards, 1 TD)- Rashad Jennings (Week 7) - 16.2 Fantasy Points (28 Touches, 102 Combined Yards, 1 TD)- Doug Martin (Week 9) - 51.2 Fantasy Points (29 Touches, 272 Combined Yards, 4 TDs)- BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Week 12) - 19.8 Fantasy Points (20 Touches, 138 Combined Yards, 1 TD)- Trent Richardson (Week 13) - 15.5 Fantasy Points (23 Touches, 95 Combined Yards, 1 TD)That's good news against the league's 5th worst fantasy run defense (#1 in points allowed to RBs over the past 5 weeks). If terrible Rashad Jennings can deliver a quality fantasy performance despite running 2.1 yards per carry against these guys, Knowshon should be able to deliver.* For those of you in PPR leagues, Moreno has caught 4 passes each week as well.![]()
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My starting stable of foster/Martin in one money league begs to differ.That's how championships are won.. rely too heavily on RB's in the regular season and they will burn you in the playoffs.. build a strong QB/WR/TE core and the RB's will come out of the woodwork by playoff time and then you are golden.In one league my RB's sucked all year and I somehow barely got into the playoffs. I picked up Moreno and Bryce Brown and suddenly my team is looking strong. Those two pickups this late in the season have been huge.
I actually agree with this. Qbs this year have been pretty close with each. With the emergence of a passing league you are seeing more and more Wrs come out as good starters for your team. The only shortage are RBs now. This being said I am sure glad I started Moreno in my flex over Garcon and Greg Jennings. Been battling with that decision for a while and decided to go with the touchesMy starting stable of foster/Martin in one money league begs to differ.That's how championships are won.. rely too heavily on RB's in the regular season and they will burn you in the playoffs.. build a strong QB/WR/TE core and the RB's will come out of the woodwork by playoff time and then you are golden.In one league my RB's sucked all year and I somehow barely got into the playoffs. I picked up Moreno and Bryce Brown and suddenly my team is looking strong. Those two pickups this late in the season have been huge.
Trying to move this campaign for Moreno Future HOFer from the Hillman thread to somewhere more appropriate...OK, so when I was reaching for 'he's just a guy' comparisons, Shonn Greene isn't the same build as Moreno. How about Ryan Mathews? Flashes of greatness, but brittle. Moreno obviously hasn't put the ball on the ground as much as Mathews lately. Maybe Addai as mentioned in the other thread, as he had injury problems too.can you flesh this out? I don't get this comparison at all. Greene's a plodding north/south runner with next to no receiving ability. I think the guy that mentioned Addai is closer to what Moreno is.He's Shonn Greene in a Broncos uniform. Maybe with slightly better hands.He's doing good enough, and he's fulfilling the role they need right now, but they're purging everything left of the McDaniels era (good riddance) and building around the new core. He'll likely be playing somewhere next year, but I don't see him in Denver.DT, Decker, Beadles, Walton, Ayers, etal. The McD players they got rid of weren't productive. They aren't 'purging everything left of the McDaniels era' just because they are McD guys.
Moreno notched 32 carries in this weeks game and no injuries. By today's standards that's a tremendous workload that only feature backs receive. He has also notched 20 plus carries or touches per week over the last 3 weeks. All feature back numbers. And we have not heard of him so much as having a sprained pinky nail. Maybe in the past he has displayed fragility, and I'm not sayin he is past that. But maybe he is. It can happen. Look at Fred Taylor. For years he was considered fragile Fred and then he became very durable. It happens.Trying to move this campaign for Moreno Future HOFer from the Hillman thread to somewhere more appropriate...OK, so when I was reaching for 'he's just a guy' comparisons, Shonn Greene isn't the same build as Moreno. How about Ryan Mathews? Flashes of greatness, but brittle. Moreno obviously hasn't put the ball on the ground as much as Mathews lately. Maybe Addai as mentioned in the other thread, as he had injury problems too.can you flesh this out? I don't get this comparison at all. Greene's a plodding north/south runner with next to no receiving ability. I think the guy that mentioned Addai is closer to what Moreno is.He's Shonn Greene in a Broncos uniform. Maybe with slightly better hands.He's doing good enough, and he's fulfilling the role they need right now, but they're purging everything left of the McDaniels era (good riddance) and building around the new core. He'll likely be playing somewhere next year, but I don't see him in Denver.DT, Decker, Beadles, Walton, Ayers, etal. The McD players they got rid of weren't productive. They aren't 'purging everything left of the McDaniels era' just because they are McD guys.
Tebow was productive yet they sent him packing. Lloyd was productive but they let him go. Did they draft Hillman as a cattle prod to motivate Moreno? Moreno was a healthy scratch for at least a month- there has to be a reason for it. They've been using McGahee and Ball over Moreno not because they knew they had a stud in the waiting and just wanted to shock everyone in the last month. Maybe he's just flipped the switch and decided to make the most of an opportunity, but if Moreno was the franchise back of the future, he would have found a way into the lineup before now. KC and OAK were two very favorable matchups for RBs, and TB was tough. He's looked good when he should, and average against a tougher matchup like TB...but people were looking at the DEN RB position for production down the stretch based on the schedule all along.
The knock against Moreno- and Hillman- (in my opinion) are that they don't seem to fit the build for workhorse back roles. Maybe if he packed on another 20 or so pounds he'd be more durable and hit the hole with more authority than dance or trip over his own feet. I think McDaniels wanted Moreno to be his Kevin Faulk, and even Kevin Faulk wasn't the primary RB for the Pats.
Maybe in the past he has displayed fragility, and I'm not sayin he is past that. But maybe he is. It can happen. Look at Fred Taylor. For years he was considered fragile Fred and then he became very durable. It happens.