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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (1 Viewer)
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mphtrilogy
Footballguy
I am tired of tanking and rooting for draft picks and firings, so I watched and hoped for a win and watch some of these players play to their potential and GWilson did not disappoint, enjoyable 2nd half. McDonald is a beast and Rodgers played hard in that 2nd half throwing his body around. I am taking this team week to week, we all know how bad things are, but it was one of the better halfs of the year to watch. Still not expecting more than a few more wins the rest of the way, but it was a nice respite from the misery. That Wilson catch (actually seemed like he made 3 circus catches) was really a treat.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
we all knew they would screw up their draft position by winning some games. rinse and repeat,
sheerterror
Footballguy
Poor Stroud keeps coming here and playing how our stadium looks.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Definitely a tale of 2 halfs.
1st half was absolutely comical - begging to be buried.
2d half - they gave a glimpse of what could have been.
I agree its likely too late but draft position doesnt matter at this point - id rather string together some wins as they are coming anyway so might as well root for a miracle and the last WC spot. Only concern is if they make it or close that gives Woody reason to bring it all back next year which is a mistake.
1st half was absolutely comical - begging to be buried.
2d half - they gave a glimpse of what could have been.
I agree its likely too late but draft position doesnt matter at this point - id rather string together some wins as they are coming anyway so might as well root for a miracle and the last WC spot. Only concern is if they make it or close that gives Woody reason to bring it all back next year which is a mistake.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Post game thoughts:
QB - A Rod 2d half finally showed some glimpses - was it a glimpse or finally shaking the rust off. Maybe we underestimated a year off and injury at that age - plus OL not helping
OL - more injuries - watching Olu trying to play guard was crazy with Tippman literally instructing him some plays. Gotta get healthy soon as the OL was shaky when healthy.
RB - Breece getting carries and looks solid but just hasnt broken plays like years past. Probably due to get hot - BA just a spot player now which isnt a bad thing.
WR - Adams and Wilson is a heck of a duo - showed what they can do last pm if given a chance. Excited to watch this duo rest of year. That may have been the best catch Ive even seen
Def - ignoring the one putrid 98 yd drive - DL played well. Will Mcd a lot of pressure. Hope he heals up as DL needs him bad. LB - Sherwood is the best LB and time to play over Mosely even if healthy - hes gonna get paid. Speaking of getting paid - Sauce continues to struggle and costing himself a ton.
On to Az next week with a very possible win....or loss. I wouldnt be shocked with either - but at least a pulse for another week.
QB - A Rod 2d half finally showed some glimpses - was it a glimpse or finally shaking the rust off. Maybe we underestimated a year off and injury at that age - plus OL not helping
OL - more injuries - watching Olu trying to play guard was crazy with Tippman literally instructing him some plays. Gotta get healthy soon as the OL was shaky when healthy.
RB - Breece getting carries and looks solid but just hasnt broken plays like years past. Probably due to get hot - BA just a spot player now which isnt a bad thing.
WR - Adams and Wilson is a heck of a duo - showed what they can do last pm if given a chance. Excited to watch this duo rest of year. That may have been the best catch Ive even seen
Def - ignoring the one putrid 98 yd drive - DL played well. Will Mcd a lot of pressure. Hope he heals up as DL needs him bad. LB - Sherwood is the best LB and time to play over Mosely even if healthy - hes gonna get paid. Speaking of getting paid - Sauce continues to struggle and costing himself a ton.
On to Az next week with a very possible win....or loss. I wouldnt be shocked with either - but at least a pulse for another week.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
My friend who is traveling in Vietnam and couldn't watch the game asked me about the game. I said, "It was a tale of two halves".
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
When I watch the games I cant help but root for them to win.
While it would be much better for the franchise to lose out, realistically, even with the team underachieving thus far, it’s a too talented of a roster not to win some games in the second half of the schedule, especially with Rodgers playing respectable. He’s nowhere near where he was but he can at least work with the Jets now having one of the best WR combos in the league.
With the AFC being so watered down and and fairly easy schedule, may as well hope they somehow sneak into the playoffs but I see 7-10 unfortunately. Maybe we’ll get some meaningful December games at least.
rockaction
Footballguy
I’m watching the games today and thinking that it’s not unreasonable to stick with it and cheer for wins. Denver is the biggest obstacle—a head-to-head loss and two games behind in the standings. That’s a tough one.
Right now it’s Baltimore, the LA Chargers, and the Denver Broncos who are are the last three teams in with records of 6-3, 5-3, and 5-4 respectively—making it seven playoff teams if you exempt the four division leaders Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Houston, and KC. Cincinnati is 4-5 and Indy is 4-4. Then it’s the Jets. We’re number ten! We’re number ten!
But weirder things have happened. I figure that the Jets have to go 6-2 at the worst to have a shot. I’m not sure it’s doable, but why not hope for it? We’re 3-4 in conference, so that’s not too far behind the other clubs. Denver has two games with KC, one with Atlanta, and ones with Indy and Cinci. The Chargers have six stiff games in a row after the Titans next week.
Right now the Jets would pick tenth in the draft. Not so great. Nothing really coveted to lose by winning some games.
Right now it’s Baltimore, the LA Chargers, and the Denver Broncos who are are the last three teams in with records of 6-3, 5-3, and 5-4 respectively—making it seven playoff teams if you exempt the four division leaders Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Houston, and KC. Cincinnati is 4-5 and Indy is 4-4. Then it’s the Jets. We’re number ten! We’re number ten!
But weirder things have happened. I figure that the Jets have to go 6-2 at the worst to have a shot. I’m not sure it’s doable, but why not hope for it? We’re 3-4 in conference, so that’s not too far behind the other clubs. Denver has two games with KC, one with Atlanta, and ones with Indy and Cinci. The Chargers have six stiff games in a row after the Titans next week.
Right now the Jets would pick tenth in the draft. Not so great. Nothing really coveted to lose by winning some games.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Don’t look now but the Colts are going to be 4-5 and 3-3 within the AFC. Cincinnati matches that, but they’re 2-3 in conference with a brutal schedule upcoming. The Jets aren’t too far away from beginning to smell the possibility. Let all these teams falter and hope to go on a run. AZ, Miami (2), Jax (they’re a lot better than their record), and Buffalo are our tough match-ups. We need to go 6-2. Need to beat Miami once and figure out a way to beat Indy, AZ, Jax, LA Rams, and Seattle. I’m not counting out the possibility of beating Buffalo, either.
eta* Seattle and LA are tough games also. They’re just not Detroit-level tough.
eta* Seattle and LA are tough games also. They’re just not Detroit-level tough.
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
im not even tracking right now - unless they start stacking wins they are toast. If they win the next 2 before the bye then ill start paying attention. We all agree this team is not built for tanking/high draft pick
rockaction
Footballguy
I get what you’re saying. It’s all about wins right now and will be for the rest of the year. But I also have the luxury—as a fan—to track the other teams. I began tracking before the season began because I thought their schedule was a brutal opening through Houston. I did not think they’d be 3-6, but 4-5 was not out of the question. I did not like the lack of rest and national prime time attention that they were going to have to deal with.
It would have helped if they hadn’t gotten rid of JFM and if Johnson hadn’t gone down to injury. Those things are huge and will remain huge. They’re why Sauce is out there waving at tackles in the secondary.
rockaction
Footballguy
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Regardless they need to draft a QB next year. If they run it back - let him sit for an entire year so they dont throw a kid to the wolves for once.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm not sure I can deal with them running this mess back. That just may push me off the cliff. Rodgers is already showing serious decline and this staff is hot garbage.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If there's a chance of the Jets "running it back", then I will root for them to lose out just to avoid yet another wasted season next year.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I think the only way they dont run it back is a complete disaster of a season such as top 5 pick - unless Rodgers wilfully retires which he may do. It would likely waste more than just 1 season as what coach/GM in his right mind would want to come into that kind of disaster
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I was already depressed about daylight saving time coming back and now you lay this on me.
I hope they make the playoffs and then I guess they should probably run it back but as someone that thinks 7-10 is about their ceiling based on where we are and what we know I can’t see running that back - Rodgers one year older and that much more comfortable throwing his weight around? No thanks.
I was hoping Rodgers would retire. I wouldn’t blame him for not doing so strictly for financial reasons but maybe they could buy him out or just cut him.
Obviously the offense played well this past week but it’s not like Rodgers was lighting it up. Wilson made two great (one amazing) catches on bad passes for one thing.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Jets Colts game booted from Sunday Night Football to the 1:00 pm slot.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I could be wrong but Woody is gettin up there and has not shown any patience with a real rebuild....running it back and saying it just took time to gel may be the easiest if they finish somewhat strong.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
great - Jets stink in prime time and I hate going to them!
zamboni
Footballguy
That’ll learn ‘em.
you are not wrong, but at this point, the Jets likely can only afford to lose one more time. after that, their fate is likely in the hands of others more than it is in their own hands.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Yeah, the reality is that if they SOMEHOW thread the needle and make some sort of miraculous run in the 2nd half (they wont) it wont be because Williams is on the team. He and Rodgers just didn't mesh and 90% of the targets are gonna go to the big 2 anyway.
Guessing they think they can survive without another big body until Lazard comes back. Getting a 5th rounder is a pretty excellent return.
Guessing they think they can survive without another big body until Lazard comes back. Getting a 5th rounder is a pretty excellent return.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
MWill was a nonfactor and once Adams came even less. Id rather find some run for Corley as a 3rd WR.
zamboni
Footballguy
I’ll always have lasting memories of his long time spent here.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Wondering if Woody will do another ambassador tour again - if so he would need to relinquish control of the team. Would we be looking at Chris Johnson 2.0? That wasn't exactly any better...cough Adam Gase - maybe uncle Stevie can make Woody an offer he cant refuse....please!
sheerterror
Footballguy
I think the only way Cohen does that is if he knows he can move the team to Flushing and mesh it into Cohen's World with the eventual casino license.
Chemical X
Footballguy
joe douglas in a nutshell…..mwill’s corpse for $10mill and a trade up for corley’s ghost.
rockaction
Footballguy
Time for the Johnsons to sell the club. Woody might go back to the UK as ambassador? WTF
Chris was the one who gave us Gase? I can’t even keep up with these stories. They’re ludicrous.
Joe D biffed on a QB during COVID. That shouldn’t be his only lasting legacy. They built an excellent defense for two years and never could figure out the offensive side of the ball. Now that they have those pieces in place to be adequate, the defense is merely adequate.
Too bad about that.
Hey, Cincinnati lost to drop to 4-6 last night. A win in Zona and we’re ahead of Cincinnati. Indy gets Buffalo, right? We’re looking at the possibility that the Jets (with a win that won’t be easy in AZ) are eighth in the conference by the end of the weekend.
Denver gets KC for their first of two with them. Buckle your chin straps, boys. We’re going headlong into this.
Chris was the one who gave us Gase? I can’t even keep up with these stories. They’re ludicrous.
Joe D biffed on a QB during COVID. That shouldn’t be his only lasting legacy. They built an excellent defense for two years and never could figure out the offensive side of the ball. Now that they have those pieces in place to be adequate, the defense is merely adequate.
Too bad about that.
Hey, Cincinnati lost to drop to 4-6 last night. A win in Zona and we’re ahead of Cincinnati. Indy gets Buffalo, right? We’re looking at the possibility that the Jets (with a win that won’t be easy in AZ) are eighth in the conference by the end of the weekend.
Denver gets KC for their first of two with them. Buckle your chin straps, boys. We’re going headlong into this.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
As for the Johnsons - if he doesnt sell if he gets appointed to another position then he never will. His brother is as clueless as Woody. Just need to pray that at some point they get lucky and pick someone who knows what they are doing. Problem is unless they wipe the slate no one is going to come in here with Arod running the show
Im trying hard not to watch the "playoff race" - Ill give a look at the bye but they need to win the next 2 to even make it matter a little
Yogibear
Footballguy
The results from Tuesday's presidential election will shape this nation for at least the next four years. It could also shape the future of New York Jets football, too.
Jets employees are preparing for team owner Woody Johnson to again take a political post with the Donald Trump administration, sources say. Nothing has been explicitly stated to the team regarding Johnson's next move, but a team source said "everyone is assuming" a Johnson appointment of some sort will take place.
League sources tell CBS Sports it will greatly benefit the Jets and their offseason plans to know as early as possible whether their boss will actually be their boss for the next few years. In a matter of a couple months, the Jets could be in search of both a new head coach and general manager, not to mention what will happen with Aaron Rodgers and his future.
"The first question a candidate is going to ask is, 'who's the boss?'" a source said.
Johnson served as the U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom during the first Trump administration, ceding the Jets operations to his brother, Christopher. In January 2017, Trump announced his plan for Johnson to take the post. The senate confirmed Johnson in August. He attended one Jets preseason game and then went across the pond for the next 3 1/2 years.
Christopher helmed the team in those years, hiring Joe Douglas as general manager and Robert Saleh as head coach. A source said Woody Johnson was not involved "much at all" on the Douglas hiring in June 2019, which was well into the heart of his ambassadorship. Saleh was hired in January 2021, just days before Johnson would leave his post. A source says Johnson was "aware of the direction the Robert hiring was going because he was returning."
Woody Johnson fired Saleh five games into his fourth season as head coach. Saleh had a career record of 20-36 with the Jets. Douglas has an executive record of 30-62 heading into this week's game against the Cardinals. Asked earlier this week about his future while on an expiring contract, Douglas said "whatever happens, happens."
We all know that Woody Johnson is making Dan Rooney roll in his grave. For those that don't know who Dan Rooney is, he's the former owner of the Steelers who led the team to five Super Bowl appearances before his election to the Hall of Fame in 2000. Dan Rooney is also the former U.S. Ambassador to Ireland during the Obama's first term as President. At least Dan Rooney kept the Steelers functional during his tenure of ownership. What has Woody Johnson done? He ruined the careers of two former Packers quarterback legends and has had too many head coaches to count. Also, let's talk about the number of guys that are in the Hall of Fame. The Rooneys may have a whole roster full of Hall of Famers. Woody Johnson has produced only 3 Hall of Famers: Curtis Martin, Kevin Mawae and Darrelle Revis. Joe Klecko doesn't count because his career was over by the time Woody Johnson started his tenure of ownership. The point of what I'm trying to say is that if the Jets could find an owner who could run the team the Rooneys have run the Steelers since their inception in 1933, then maybe they'd be competing for the Super Bowl year in and year out!
Just saying.
Jets employees are preparing for team owner Woody Johnson to again take a political post with the Donald Trump administration, sources say. Nothing has been explicitly stated to the team regarding Johnson's next move, but a team source said "everyone is assuming" a Johnson appointment of some sort will take place.
League sources tell CBS Sports it will greatly benefit the Jets and their offseason plans to know as early as possible whether their boss will actually be their boss for the next few years. In a matter of a couple months, the Jets could be in search of both a new head coach and general manager, not to mention what will happen with Aaron Rodgers and his future.
"The first question a candidate is going to ask is, 'who's the boss?'" a source said.
Johnson served as the U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom during the first Trump administration, ceding the Jets operations to his brother, Christopher. In January 2017, Trump announced his plan for Johnson to take the post. The senate confirmed Johnson in August. He attended one Jets preseason game and then went across the pond for the next 3 1/2 years.
Christopher helmed the team in those years, hiring Joe Douglas as general manager and Robert Saleh as head coach. A source said Woody Johnson was not involved "much at all" on the Douglas hiring in June 2019, which was well into the heart of his ambassadorship. Saleh was hired in January 2021, just days before Johnson would leave his post. A source says Johnson was "aware of the direction the Robert hiring was going because he was returning."
Woody Johnson fired Saleh five games into his fourth season as head coach. Saleh had a career record of 20-36 with the Jets. Douglas has an executive record of 30-62 heading into this week's game against the Cardinals. Asked earlier this week about his future while on an expiring contract, Douglas said "whatever happens, happens."
We all know that Woody Johnson is making Dan Rooney roll in his grave. For those that don't know who Dan Rooney is, he's the former owner of the Steelers who led the team to five Super Bowl appearances before his election to the Hall of Fame in 2000. Dan Rooney is also the former U.S. Ambassador to Ireland during the Obama's first term as President. At least Dan Rooney kept the Steelers functional during his tenure of ownership. What has Woody Johnson done? He ruined the careers of two former Packers quarterback legends and has had too many head coaches to count. Also, let's talk about the number of guys that are in the Hall of Fame. The Rooneys may have a whole roster full of Hall of Famers. Woody Johnson has produced only 3 Hall of Famers: Curtis Martin, Kevin Mawae and Darrelle Revis. Joe Klecko doesn't count because his career was over by the time Woody Johnson started his tenure of ownership. The point of what I'm trying to say is that if the Jets could find an owner who could run the team the Rooneys have run the Steelers since their inception in 1933, then maybe they'd be competing for the Super Bowl year in and year out!
Just saying.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
So embarrassing.
rockaction
Footballguy
That was a butt whipping. Jets got smoked.
No need to cheer for wins. This team does not have it.
Indeed, I don’t see too many wins on the horizon for this club. Houston might have been a fluke.
No need to cheer for wins. This team does not have it.
Indeed, I don’t see too many wins on the horizon for this club. Houston might have been a fluke.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
well thats a wrap on any long shot playoff thoughts....absolutely smoked by a mid Arizona team. The "experiment" is officially a disaster. Time to root for losses again - not that I have any faith in them making a pick.
No clue where to go from here - no decent coach will go near them after this mess. Stop fantasizing about a Woody selling - wont happen.......Our awful owner will be fleeing to England to leave the franchise in the hands of perhaps the only person on Earth who was worse than Woody.
The monster draft class has been reduced to ashes - Rodgers cap hit will be crippling.
I honestly can't believe the Pats were able to tear it down post Brady, rebuild and have a franchise QB and better team than the Jets.
Honestly dont know where to go from here - zero hope or expectations after this disaster.
Thank goodness for bourbon
No clue where to go from here - no decent coach will go near them after this mess. Stop fantasizing about a Woody selling - wont happen.......Our awful owner will be fleeing to England to leave the franchise in the hands of perhaps the only person on Earth who was worse than Woody.
The monster draft class has been reduced to ashes - Rodgers cap hit will be crippling.
I honestly can't believe the Pats were able to tear it down post Brady, rebuild and have a franchise QB and better team than the Jets.
Honestly dont know where to go from here - zero hope or expectations after this disaster.
Thank goodness for bourbon
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I would 100% understand why Rodgers wouldn’t want to retire and leave money on the table but he could do it if he keeps looking so bad since image is so important to him. It’s not like he can’t make money post-playing career.
As to who would take over this mess, they would first need to find someone they could give complete control to like a Belichick. The problem is, I doubt he’d do it and it would likely be a disaster anyway.
Who else is out there like that? Not sure really so yeah they likely are screwed again.
As to who would take over this mess, they would first need to find someone they could give complete control to like a Belichick. The problem is, I doubt he’d do it and it would likely be a disaster anyway.
Who else is out there like that? Not sure really so yeah they likely are screwed again.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
2024 isn't the Jets' season.
But 2025 is a new season to make one final attempt at a run with Rodgers.
Mike McCarthy should also be available soon.
But 2025 is a new season to make one final attempt at a run with Rodgers.
Mike McCarthy should also be available soon.
Chemical X
Footballguy
“execution? yes, i’d be in favor of it……”
Chemical X
Footballguy
as an fyi, woody bought the jest in 2000 and martin and mawae were already rostered i believe as parcells FA signings. no idea how this franchise drafted revis. they generally draft guys that are out of the league after 2-3 seasons. woody will spend money, but he just can’t hire competent people. with this team now needing a franchise qb, new GM, new coach and under likely absentee ownership, it’s only going to get worse. 2 division titles in 64 years. i mean, even blind squirrels have better odds of finding nuts.
Chemical X
Footballguy
on the positive side, AVT may not miss an entire season!
Be more cool than insulting other posters like this.
Chemical X
Footballguy
reminder, jets traded up to draft malachi corley, with the next pick being tre benson.
it’s why this team will have a new qb, coach, gm and owner next year. maybe peyton can recommend someone along the gase tree……
it’s why this team will have a new qb, coach, gm and owner next year. maybe peyton can recommend someone along the gase tree……
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I don't want to derail anything into the vile vat of politics but anyone can read the headlines about Woody having a prominent role in the next administration and it seems like almost immediately accepted that the team will be riding like a headless horseman for the next few years or some type of repeat from '16-'20 or whatever
This is why I feel there should be times when owners should graciously sell the team...for the fan base sake.
If he cannot carry out his duties to the fans, the cuty and the NFL, maybe it's time to move on. Obviously the NFL is not more important than these other interests he has.
I'll stop there but the saddest part to all this is where is the light at the end of the tunnel?
Rodgers Year 3?
This is why I feel there should be times when owners should graciously sell the team...for the fan base sake.
If he cannot carry out his duties to the fans, the cuty and the NFL, maybe it's time to move on. Obviously the NFL is not more important than these other interests he has.
I'll stop there but the saddest part to all this is where is the light at the end of the tunnel?
Rodgers Year 3?
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Do not ever talk about other kids lives like this.