Indefinite Tampa Bay Bucs thread: Somehow not on the list of teams to never have won a Super Bowl (1 Viewer)

[Grahamburn]

Is this Tampa D legit?

Interior defensive line and linebackers are.

Verner and Banks are quality corners. McDougald can hang at safety. Main concern is no outside rush but the inside guys just may crash the gate every down anyways.

Seems like this may be the plan.

 

[Quez]

Tim Wright sucks now. I have heard he was having trouble with drops, and then has one on MNF. Doh! That was a great pass by Jameis. Would of been a tough catch, but for a "pass catching te" fighting for a roster spot, you have to catch that.

 

[Grahamburn]

Tim Wright sucks now. I have heard he was having trouble with drops, and then has one on MNF. Doh! That was a great pass by Jameis. Would of been a tough catch, but for a "pass catching te" fighting for a roster spot, you have to catch that.

That pass was perfect. Jameis made several "wow" throws last night.

 

[Quez]

I hear the Bucs love wr Rannell Hall. Don't be surprised if be outperforms Bell & Murphy.

 

[gump]

I hear the Bucs love wr Rannell Hall. Don't be surprised if be outperforms Bell & Murphy.

Bell didn't do much positive last night, did he?

 

[Quez]

I hear the Bucs love wr Rannell Hall. Don't be surprised if be outperforms Bell & Murphy.

Bell didn't do much positive last night, did he?

No, but he will definitely have a roster spot. Evans, V-Jax, Bell, Murphy are probably all locks. They probably keep one out of Hall, Sheppard, Herron. Sheppard also looked good last night.

They probably don't show much of Hall the rest of preseason & and hope another team doesn't sign him so they can bring him back.

 

[Grahamburn]

Sheppard looked really good and was crushing it on special teams.

 

[Quez]

With EVANS out the last 2 preseason games it will give a little more opportunity for some of these guys.

 

[kawaihae]

Just a little thing, but I'm shocked that Joey Iosefa was in the first round of cuts. Probably means no practice squad. Guy was a stud in college and a great athlete. Thought he'd at least hang around for awhile.

 

[Capella]

Just a little thing, but I'm shocked that Joey Iosefa was in the first round of cuts. Probably means no practice squad. Guy was a stud in college and a great athlete. Thought he'd at least hang around for awhile.

Yea that was a waste.

 

[Capella]

They have to find a way to tighten this line up or Jameis has no chance. When he gets a shot to throw it he looks awesome, but geez. Stroud today said If you take the preseason out to 16 games he would be sacked 75 times.

 

[jurb26]

They have to find a way to tighten this line up or Jameis has no chance. When he gets a shot to throw it he looks awesome, but geez. Stroud today said If you take the preseason out to 16 games he would be sacked 75 times.

Is that just Winston or also including the other QBs? I know Glennon has been sacked a lot as well.

 

[Capella]

They have to find a way to tighten this line up or Jameis has no chance. When he gets a shot to throw it he looks awesome, but geez. Stroud today said If you take the preseason out to 16 games he would be sacked 75 times.

Is that just Winston or also including the other QBs? I know Glennon has been sacked a lot as well.

Just Winston. The other QBs have been tossed down 6 times.

 

[Quez]

Martin can't pick up the blitz worth a crap.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm trying not to overreact too much to that game. First time against a 3-4 on a really short week. I doubt they did much Cleveland prep.

The Browns' D looks legit.

 

[Quez]

I agree, the Browns may be better than advertised. And a 3-4 always gives us trouble.

 

[Capella]

THIS IS OUR YEAR (this is not our year)

 

[Capella]

Hey we don't get to celebrate often. Gotta bump this one.

 

[Quez]

Finally glad to see our Dline get some pressure. Our O-line has way too many penalties. Mankins drawing a penalty in a critical part of the game is unacceptable. And the rookie OT will be getting flagged all season.

Jameis looked pretty good up until the fumble. I'm worried that he is trying to do too much when the line breaks down. Sometimes he turns it into a great play, but he is going to get beat up if this becomes a weekly routine.

RB situation is still pretty murkey. Rainey actually looked pretty good when given the chance.

ASJ is an idiot BTW.

 

[Grahamburn]

Marpet can run block. He's blasting people.

Jameis made some great throws off play-action. Loved seeing that.

The defense was so much better. They looked like they cared.

The conservative play calling late drove me nuts.

Hope McCoy is ok.

 

[Capella]

I watched all of the offensive series back tonight up until the 4th. Boy are we in good shape for the future with Jameis. That 50 yard heave on the run to Murphy is a throw no qb in our history could have made. I watched it like 4 times.

 

[zeeshan2]

Adam Schefter

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Bucs TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins suffered strained shoulder expected to sideline him 4-6 weeks, per source. Doctor's 2nd opinion coming.

12:59 PM - 22 Sep 2015

 

[Grahamburn]

:sigh:

Penalties. Drops. Missed kicks. Missed tackles. Missed opportunities. Same old crap.

 

[Capella]

Lovie 3:16

 

[CentralPA]

:sigh:

Penalties. Drops. Missed kicks. Missed tackles. Missed opportunities. Same old crap.

Head up man. The offense looks like it'll be exciting but will have growing pains with Winston.

 

[Capella]

:sigh:

Penalties. Drops. Missed kicks. Missed tackles. Missed opportunities. Same old crap.

Head up man. The offense looks like it'll be exciting but will have growing pains with Winston.

It does. And the oline had flashes of competence against a wicked defense. I was not expecting the defense to be this poor though.

 

[Grahamburn]

:sigh:

Penalties. Drops. Missed kicks. Missed tackles. Missed opportunities. Same old crap.

Head up man. The offense looks like it'll be exciting but will have growing pains with Winston.

It does. And the oline had flashes of competence against a wicked defense. I was not expecting the defense to be this poor though.

When Ryan Mallett and Alfred Blue tear you up behind a decimated offensive line something is very wrong.

 

[Capella]

:sigh:

Penalties. Drops. Missed kicks. Missed tackles. Missed opportunities. Same old crap.

Head up man. The offense looks like it'll be exciting but will have growing pains with Winston.

It does. And the oline had flashes of competence against a wicked defense. I was not expecting the defense to be this poor though.

When Ryan Mallett and Alfred Blue tear you up behind a decimated offensive line something is very wrong.

That something is our idiot coach.

 

[Grahamburn]

They ran the same quick hitch to DeAndre Hopkins successfully for first downs at least 5 times. They ran off tackle stretch runs with Alfred Blue successfully 10+ times.

Why can't he make an adjustment? It's embarrassing. They line up in Tampa 2 and get picked apart in the soft zones all freaking day.

 

[Capella]

They ran the same quick hitch to DeAndre Hopkins successfully for first downs at least 5 times. They ran off tackle stretch runs with Alfred Blue successfully 10+ times.

Why can't he make an adjustment? It's embarrassing. They line up in Tampa 2 and get picked apart in the soft zones all freaking day.

No adjustments. Tennessee picked them apart doing the same thing.

 

[JaxBill]

Interesting that the Glazers seem to be taking a page out of Shad Khan's playbook.

More stadium improvements to keep/lure big name events while seeking to supplement "local imcome" with dates outside home stadium.

TAMPA — A potential $100 million renovation project for Raymond James Stadium appears close to fruition except for three sticking points, including a request by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the right to play two regular-season home games elsewhere every season beginning in 2018.

The team’s current agreement with the Tampa Sports Authority runs until 2028, and Chief Operating Officer Brian Ford has been trying to negotiate a stadium renovation agreement since January.

The current lease requires the authority to fund approximately $26 million for capital repairs and updates for the stadium, which opened in 1998 and also serves as the football home for the University of South Florida.

Under the club’s proposal, which includes significant enhancements to the authority’s original plans, the Bucs would be responsible for making a private investment that could approach $75 million.

“Over the last nine months, we have conducted very positive discussions with the Tampa Sports Authority regarding state-of-the-art upgrades to ensure that Raymond James Stadium remains among the best venues in all of sports,” Ford said in a statement. “In our discussions, we have communicated our interest in making a substantial private investment of approximately $52-75 million to enhance the current stadium plans.”

The Bucs agreed to a request to waive the balance of the practice facility fund, foregoing an $11.6 million obligation by the authority, and proposed that the profit split threshold for events at the stadium besides Bucs games be reduced from $2 million to $1.5 million.

The sports authority has countered by asking for a reduction in the threshold to $1 million.

The two sides also disagree on a club request — which was submitted only two weeks ago — to have the option of moving an additional regular-season game to an international site or within the state of Florida, beginning in 2018. That request was the team’s response when asked to waive the $11.6 million obligation.

Under the current agreement, the Bucs are allowed to play one regular-season home game each year outside of Raymond James Stadium. Tampa Bay twice played in the NFL International Series, against the New England Patriots in 2009 and the Chicago Bears in 2011 at Wembley Stadium in London.

In a response to the team on Sept. 22, the authority said the right to play a second home game each season outside of the Bay area should be contingent upon Tampa being awarded a Super Bowl during the remaining term of the agreement, or a written agreement by Premier League soccer club Manchester United to play a match at the stadium.

More here

http://www.tbo.com/sports/bucs/proposed-100-million-stadium-renovation-includes-bucs-request-for-second-game-away-from-rjs-20150930/

 

[Capella]

They can't fire lovie fast enough. 3-17.

 

[Quez]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

 

[Capella]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

?

 

[ShamrockPride]

What are they doing with Brindza...gosh he's bad.

 

[cstu]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

?

Lovie didn't fumble the ball and throw 4 picks.

 

[Capella]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

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Lovie didn't fumble the ball and throw 4 picks.

Lovie is 3-17. That's not on Winston, and only a moron would expect a rookie qb not to struggle.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

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Lovie didn't fumble the ball and throw 4 picks.

Lovie is 3-17. That's not on Winston, and only a moron would expect a rookie qb not to struggle.

You know that now that you said that he's going to bring up Luck and Griffin, right? The exceptions.

 

[Insein]

So... How would Tampa fans feel if they took that deal from the Eagles for a ton of picks to take Mariota?

 

[Capella]

So... How would Tampa fans feel if they took that deal from the Eagles for a ton of picks to take Mariota?

Horrible?

People really make long term conclusions after 4 games still huh? So weird to me.

 

[Capella]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

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Lovie didn't fumble the ball and throw 4 picks.

Lovie is 3-17. That's not on Winston, and only a moron would expect a rookie qb not to struggle.

You know that now that you said that he's going to bring up Luck and Griffin, right? The exceptions.

I figured he would also make sure to blame the kicker tomorrow.

 

[btemp]

So... How would Tampa fans feel if they took that deal from the Eagles for a ton of picks to take Mariota?

The issue for the Bucs isn't picks. A good joke I heard after the 1st week loss to the Titans: "Who was the wrong QB to take no. 1 overall? Whoever the Bucs took."

And there's truth in that. The fundamental issue isn't the GM or the coach or the players. It's the utterly incompetent organization. Much like the Browns and Raiders, players and staff go to the Bucs and get worse.

The team can't develop players (or staff, although that's harder to see) and no matter how many picks they have they will suck for a long time.

 

[Insein]

Oh well. Just thinking of what could have been if we gave like 10 picks for Mariota.

 

[JuniorNB]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

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Lovie didn't fumble the ball and throw 4 picks.

Lovie is 3-17. That's not on Winston, and only a moron would expect a rookie qb not to struggle.

Lovie chose Winston Ober Mariota. Which will go down as one of the all-time biggest blunders. So yes, Lovie did throw 4 interceptions.

 

[Quez]

There could be a few teams looking at kickers this week.

 

[Grahamburn]

Oh well. Just thinking of what could have been if we gave like 10 picks for Mariota.

The Bucs seem to have more "what if" draft moments than any organization in sports. We'll never know what was truly offered anyway.

 

[Grahamburn]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

?

Lovie didn't fumble the ball and throw 4 picks.

Lovie is 3-17. That's not on Winston, and only a moron would expect a rookie qb not to struggle.

We should definitely expect him to struggle. Winston has done some good things. It will be a while before we can start talking regrets.

Looking like another top 7 pick coming though. By the time that player enters his prime McCoy and David will be about done.

It really does come down to the organization.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Oh well. Just thinking of what could have been if we gave like 10 picks for Mariota.

The Bucs would have squandered all of this year's picks on guys who don't see the field, and Mariota would have already been put on short-term IR after getting destroyed behind the Eagles' pathetic excuse for an O-line. Oh, and Tennessee would be 0-4.

The rarely seen lose-lose-lose scenario!

 

[Capella]

Easy there. He isn't kicking the ball. Hou. & Car. were both winnable games. He had the team in position to win but the player execution is horrible.

?

Lovie didn't fumble the ball and throw 4 picks.

Lovie is 3-17. That's not on Winston, and only a moron would expect a rookie qb not to struggle.

We should definitely expect him to struggle. Winston has done some good things. It will be a while before we can start talking regrets.

Looking like another top 7 pick coming though. By the time that player enters his prime McCoy and David will be about done.

It really does come down to the organization.

I really do feel bad for McCoy. That guy is going to go through his entire prime without even sniffing the playoffs.

 

[shader]

So... How would Tampa fans feel if they took that deal from the Eagles for a ton of picks to take Mariota?

The issue for the Bucs isn't picks. A good joke I heard after the 1st week loss to the Titans: "Who was the wrong QB to take no. 1 overall? Whoever the Bucs took."

And there's truth in that. The fundamental issue isn't the GM or the coach or the players. It's the utterly incompetent organization. Much like the Browns and Raiders, players and staff go to the Bucs and get worse.

The team can't develop players (or staff, although that's harder to see) and no matter how many picks they have they will suck for a long time.

That's a ridiculous statement. Maybe Lovie sucks, but they wouldn't fail with great players. The problem is that they haven't picked great players. Josh Freeman, Mike Glennon and Jameis Winston would make any organization look bad.

It's tough to get out of the abyss when your QB stinks. As a longtime Titans fan, I feel the pain. Titans have been the most irrelevant team in the NFL for a decade. But the problem wasn't that the organization itself stunk, it's that they whiffed at QB twice in a row with Vince Young and Jake Locker.

Yeah, i suppose Tennessee could have done some things better now and then..but we stunk because our QB's stunk. Now with Mariota, there is a bright future.

It's too early to give up on Jameis, but if he fails, it's going to be because he stinks, not because there is some systemic problem in Tampa Bay.