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Indefinite Tampa Bay Bucs thread: Somehow not on the list of teams to never have won a Super Bowl (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
Can't say I love taking a running back top-5, but he looks very, very impressive. Would certainly be just what the offense needs.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I'd love Richardson as well. You have to think the Glazers feel like they need to sell some tickets. Dynamic offensive players certainly do that.
If they make a couple moves in free agency on the defensive side of the ball and at WR we'll know a bit better where they're leaning in the draft. They've already been rumored as players for Vincent Jackson and Mario Williams.
If they make a couple moves in free agency on the defensive side of the ball and at WR we'll know a bit better where they're leaning in the draft. They've already been rumored as players for Vincent Jackson and Mario Williams.
RavenLunatic
Footballguy
It woud be a good pick but wouldn't make up for passing on Adrian Peterson (but alot of people passed and have the same regret)...
Washington is another...Landry wasn't a bad pick but not ADP.
Washington is another...Landry wasn't a bad pick but not ADP.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I think the Bucs have to be thinking Morris Claiborne here. You figure Talib is going on trial soon and probably won't be back, and Ronde is on his last legs. The corner position is the most critical need for the Bucs. As much as some will rave about Richardson, it's not a need. They have to face Brees, Ryan, and Cam 6 times a year, ouch! Draft Claiborne (mark it in pen) at the 5 spot. Absolute no brainer.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
This team gave up an AVERAGE of 37.25 points over the last 8 games of the season. A RB is not a luxury they can afford with the 5th overall pick. They need to address their real problems on defense.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I don't necessarily disagree, but a strong running game helps control the ball and the clock and thus helps keep your defense off the field.The Bucs are well under the cap so they could imrove this team through FA and the draft - the cap room and their draft picks are both assets that can be used to maximize improvements. It wouldn't shock me at all if the team drafts Richardson and looks to slow games down in a division with some solid offensive teams.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Key point here, this year we're back to FA before the draft. It's very hard to speculate who the pick should be as the team needs could be totally different after free agency. I feel it's more likely they can address the offense during FA and would therefore recommend a defensive pick at #5.At the end of the day though this team needs playmakers of any kind and if Richardson is that good then take him and sort the rest out later.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I agree, but your biggest weakness is the secondary. You really actually need 2 good corners, the Bucs situation is that dire. You might want to try wooing Standford Routt who was recently cut by the Raiders, (although I hear that both Buffalo and Tennessee are hot on his trail). And you really need Claiborne. He's going to be your biggest difference maker. It won't matter if you have the second coming of ADP in Richardson. If Brees, Cam, Ryan and Co., etc. continue to light up the Buc's secondary for 30+ pts per game, any RB will be grounded and Freeman will be passing for his life. Don't listen to the Richardson camp. Total luxury and waste of a good pick.
gump
Footballguy
Didn't notice this thread....but love the Butch hire. Maybe this team is going to start trying again.
As far as the draft....I've read with the $$ we have tied up in Joseph, another OL may be unlikely.
With all the FA WR, don't see how we go with Blackmon.
Would obviously LOVE Trent....but there are some pretty good looking RBs in the subsequent rounds.
I think the pick ends up Mo Claiborne.
As far as the draft....I've read with the $$ we have tied up in Joseph, another OL may be unlikely.
With all the FA WR, don't see how we go with Blackmon.
Would obviously LOVE Trent....but there are some pretty good looking RBs in the subsequent rounds.
I think the pick ends up Mo Claiborne.
Art_VanDalay
Footballguy
I agree that taking an RB in the top 5 is considered way too high by conventional wisdom. However, this team is in desperate need of playmakers on offense. They are barren right now with anyone that scares opposing defenses and Richardson is pro ready in all aspects and a guy that would make defenses have to gameplan for him. In addition, as they say, a running game is a QB's best friend and this would be a nice running game with Blount and Richardson as a type of thunder and lightning version. The Bucs last couple of drafts focused on the defense and if they would have done anything besides grab a punter in FA last year, they would have not been so bad. Let's not forget as well that the whole team took the last 5 weeks of the season off last year. We can make up for passing on Joseph at CB last year by grabbing a guy like Grimes to hurt a division opponent or Finnegan who would be an upgrade over everyone at CB on our roster. You can't fill all your needs in a draft and as soon as the Glazers and/or Dom realize this, they will get better. If not, we are in for a long, painful overhaul over many years. Get me playmakers on offense and this team will excel. We are in a division where we will have to score 24 points or more most weeks just to be in our divisional games. Freeman needs help now or we may never find out what he can truly be at QB. Go Bucs!
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Footballguy
And Butch Davis. Good day for the Bucs. Been a while since you could say that.Mike Sullivan
gump
Footballguy
And Butch Davis. Good day for the Bucs. Been a while since you could say that.Mike Sullivan
Hello vertical passing game, power rushing attack.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Isn't that the Bucs party line every year? "oh this year we're gonna spend". 
"and we mean it this time!"
"and we mean it this time!"
Grahamburn
Footballguy
It wasn't last year, iirc. It seems like they rolled all of their money into this season purposely. If they don't sign anyone during this free agency period they might as well lock the stadium, because the fans are pretty fed up.I've been on board with the "build through the draft youth movement" mantra, but it's time to put a few more pieces in place. With the cap space they have it shouldn't be too difficult to sign at least two very talented players, and if they don't screw up the 5th pick the Bucs could have a quick turnaround.Isn't that the Bucs party line every year? "oh this year we're gonna spend".
Donsmith753
Footballguy
5 Seems to be a difficult pick this year if Claiborne does indeed go to Cleveland at 4. Richardson is great but I just don't think they should do it, I'd be looking to trade down if possible.
gump
Footballguy
There are now a ton of NFL guys reporting that the Bucs will be very agressive in FA.....if thats true, I could definitely see Trent at 5.Rumors on PewterReport include VJax, Manningham, Garcon, Carr, Finnegan, and Nix....that fills 3 big needs at CB, WR, and G. We'll see how much actually comes to fruition. Either way an exciting day for us.'Donsmith753 said:
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Again this would be my worry, how many times has this been said before. Here's hoping though
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I think Claiborne will be there at #5, and it will be difficult to pass on him for Richardson with Talib's off field trouble. The need is too great at corner to pass on Mo. Schiano's defense requires elite corner play, so they need to go get a pair of good corners somehow. A lot of buzz and expectations for them to sign Vincent Jackson, to stretch the field. With their cap room, they should be able to sign Saints all-pro guard Carl Nicks and solidify the line.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Looks like the Saints tendered him an offer, but with Colston now signed he'll probably test the market.The signing of Zuttah and potential release of Jeff Faine tells me the Bucs are going to make a hard run at Nicks.I'm trying not to get too excited until someone actually signs.
gump
Footballguy
He called the offer 'acceptable', right? Sounds like we could easily outbid....as long as he's looking to be 'a' or 'the' top-paid G...acceptable won't work.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Don't jinx itCurtis Lofton reportedly a 'done deal'.Vincent Jackson a possibility.Carl Nicks a possibility.
Quez
Footballguy
Lets assume we sign V-Jax, as we appear to be in a bidding war against ourselves at this point. What happens if Claiborn goes before 5? We could be looking at either Blackmon or Richardson. I'm not a fan of taking RBs early, and we wouldn't need Blackmon if V-Jax was #1. Maybe we could move down? Miami just got extras picks and they may want land Blackmon now that they traded Marshall away.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The Bucs are rumored to be looking at Carl Nicks as well. Add him and Tampa's interior offensive line is arguably the best in the NFL. Defenses can't load 8 in the box anymore with VJAX on the outside. Draft Richardson and this offense is balanced and scary.There are 5 elite players in this draft, imo. I don't think you move out of the 5 spot unless you're blown away by an offer. If the rest of these free agent moves come to fruition then passing on Richardson to complete this offense would be a mistake.
Quez
Footballguy
JMHO, but I think if we land Nicks anyone could be a solid rusher. True, Richardson could be elite, but I think we have so many holes to fill that loading up on picks could be a good option.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I hope the Bucs get enthralled with Claiborne and have a take it or leave it approach with Richardson. Then maybe the Browns can do the one and only thing we know how to do. Trade down.
Ron_Mexico
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Contract:Bucs agreed to terms with Vincent Jackson a five-year, $55 million contract, including $26 million guaranteed.Jackson will earn $26 million over the first two years and $36 million over the first three.
Quez
Footballguy
This doesn't surprise me. There were also rumors that we may be interested in TE Bennet. I guess they would make a push for him if they were able to move Winslow.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Pretty cool tribute to Freeman for VJAX and the Bucs to sign a contract with all "5's" in it. I'm not sure it means anything in the grand scheme of things, but that's a great way to start his career in Tampa.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The Buccaneers and free agent guard Carl Nicks may be close to reaching an agreement that will bring the Saints Pro Bowler to Tampa Bay PewterReport.com has learned.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Too bad. Bears sure took the bait on Brandon Marshall.
Maybe they should lower the asking price. Realistically, Winslow isn't a fit anymore with VJAX on the team. KW is a selfish ##### & doesn't like being second fiddle in targets and will now be at least the 3rd or 4th option in Schiano's offense. If they sign Nicks and draft Richardson, they will need a big blocking TE to hold the edge. Regardless, KW wants no part of being a blocker. Basically, he's a one-trick pony who is always patting the top of his helmet after every catch, running over to the sideline to catch his breath. A stat compiler, paycheck casher. No stamina, no heart, and waaay overpaid. He's garbage. They need to move on from him if they want to get better.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Don't know who the mouthbreathers are, but the Glazers have been historically cheap over the last decade. There is no point in arguing this. Nice to see them spend some coin for a change. I like the VJAX deal. $26M guaranteed is a good effort to outbid the rest of the league. Color me shocked. The $11M avg for 5 years is a decent deal overall. Now they need to go after Nicks to complete the plan. One year of spending doesn't erase 9 years of cheapness. Sorry.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Per Shefter tweet:
Tampa Bay reached agreement with former Saints guard Carl Nicks on a five-year, $47.5 million deal including $31 million guaranteed.
Great one-two punch to sign VJax and Nicks. I now think they should abandon drafting Mo Claiborne, and go out and get Richardson. He'll be a best running behind Nicks.
Tampa Bay reached agreement with former Saints guard Carl Nicks on a five-year, $47.5 million deal including $31 million guaranteed.
Great one-two punch to sign VJax and Nicks. I now think they should abandon drafting Mo Claiborne, and go out and get Richardson. He'll be a best running behind Nicks.
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