Homer @ RJ
Footballguy
Ummm...you're kind of being a hypocrite here. Weren't you the one dissing college basketball in that thread for two straight weeks?
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Card Trader
Footballguy
I would have been far more careful with my post if I knew the Grammar Police were on patrol this evening. My apologies.Don't be discouraged because you can't afford it now, just save if it's something you really feel you need.BTW, point #1 was funny. Thumbs up to you, Carrot Top!
First time it bothered me was on the NCAA scenario generator as it didn't work since it's flash.So it is a minor issue for me.
Gonna download usa today now.
Getinthemix
Footballguy
What is the cost of these "apps" that O and others are downloading?
Redding
Footballguy
So far most free.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm glad that people are enjoying their new iPads. Rather than sit here and bash the iPad, let me talk about why I just purchased a laptop instead:
-A Pentium dual core laptop with 3 GB of RAM, a 320GB hard drive, webcam, HDMI, and a 16" screen cost me $400
-I can jump on any website and have zero problem viewing any type of content
-I can connect my camera and video camera directly to my laptop to back up and view the content
-A physical keyboard is much easier to use than a virtual one
-I can watch DVDs on my laptop by popping them into the DVD drive
-I can burn CDs and DVDs
-I can hookup my external tv tuner and watch and record live tv
-I can edit my video in tons of great video editors
-I can download torrents to watch tons of free tv programs
-I can print things
-I can start encoding videos, while playing music and posting to FBG at the same time
For me, a laptop is just an all around more useful machine. It does so much more than an iPad. Is it as slick? No. Is it always as easy to use? No? Does the iPad have some really cool technogy and implement it better than everyone else? Yeah. But the bottom line is that a laptop just does so much more. Taking an iPad to Taiwan with me would be pointless because I wouldn't be able to transfer my photos and video to it like I can with a laptop.
This is coming from a guy that LOVES my iPod Touch. I've told tons of people that it's my favorite piece of technogy I've ever owned. I'm a definite tech nerd and the Touch is by far my favorite piece of tech. I'm a bit addicted to it even. But it basically does everything the iPad does but is in a more convenient form factor (IMO) and works as an awesome tandem with a laptop.
-A Pentium dual core laptop with 3 GB of RAM, a 320GB hard drive, webcam, HDMI, and a 16" screen cost me $400
-I can jump on any website and have zero problem viewing any type of content
-I can connect my camera and video camera directly to my laptop to back up and view the content
-A physical keyboard is much easier to use than a virtual one
-I can watch DVDs on my laptop by popping them into the DVD drive
-I can burn CDs and DVDs
-I can hookup my external tv tuner and watch and record live tv
-I can edit my video in tons of great video editors
-I can download torrents to watch tons of free tv programs
-I can print things
-I can start encoding videos, while playing music and posting to FBG at the same time
For me, a laptop is just an all around more useful machine. It does so much more than an iPad. Is it as slick? No. Is it always as easy to use? No? Does the iPad have some really cool technogy and implement it better than everyone else? Yeah. But the bottom line is that a laptop just does so much more. Taking an iPad to Taiwan with me would be pointless because I wouldn't be able to transfer my photos and video to it like I can with a laptop.
This is coming from a guy that LOVES my iPod Touch. I've told tons of people that it's my favorite piece of technogy I've ever owned. I'm a definite tech nerd and the Touch is by far my favorite piece of tech. I'm a bit addicted to it even. But it basically does everything the iPad does but is in a more convenient form factor (IMO) and works as an awesome tandem with a laptop.
Check AND Mate, GD. But you do know that you are now considered a Hater, right?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Alright, which one of you nerds is gonna pay money for this garbage?
Use it for a day and let me know your thoughts.
The Commish
Footballguy
Had a cookout today and my neighbor had two of them. Pretty slick little machine, but it's clear Apple wasn't interested in filling a void in the market. There are several standard things (as mentioned above) that are missing. Apple clearly targeted their existing users by simply "Applefying" existing tablets. The curious thing for me was they consciously removed features considered standard by the common person. I can't really question their approach. It worked for their iPhone. No reason it won't work for this. It will be upto the marketing dept to do their job from here on....though, I haven't seen the first commercial about this.
glvsav37
Footballguy
ok...so for everyone who is #####ing "who the heck...." and "Why the heck would you" post, I'll tell you how i intend to use my iPad.
#1: I do not in any way expect this to replace my computer. Never did. This is purely an accessory. Some people will spend money on upgraded speakers for their car, the newest golf club even though they are a hacker, or the latest overpriced jeans. thats cool....but I don't do any of those and would rather spend disposable income on things like this.
me: married, 1 kid (4 yr old), 1 on the way. I'm a graphic designer (so yes, read it as I have a 15 in MacBook at home and an apple design station at work). I also have an iPhone 3gs and an old click-wheel iPod that is still kicking. My wife is a grade-school teacher. My wife has a 17 in Widows laptop (that is heavier then #### IMO)
My daughter mastered my iPhone a few weeks after I got it and we have a ton of educational games on it for her. She used it so much that I couldn't even get on it so we bought her a referb iPod touch for xmas. (take a look at the cover story of this months Fast Company about kids and the smartphone/iPod touch educational revolution. My kid could have been on the cover)
My home office is in my basement of a 3 level house.
So , when I get my iPad (I'm waiting on one freelance check to come in for it).....
simple browsing/day to day stuff: like I said, my home office is in the basement so my laptop is usually there. My wife's 17 inch Acer (and its endless power cord i always trip over) is usually hanging off the endtable in the den b/c she uses the computer more for day to day stuff. She pays the bills, does some shopping (PeaPod food delivery, right now new baby stuff, etc). I can't tell you how many times she has said "Crap, I forgot to transfer the money from when we bought {whatever}" and she would lug open the laptop, boot it up and make the transfer.
with an iPad, we can do these things instantly, but be able to slide it away in the bookcase or in a cabinet and out of the way
also: IMDB app, craigslist, ebay, mint, FB, LinkedIn, Twitter, wiki, etc.
Entertainment: My daughter watches her few favorite shows just before bed. I have seen every episiode of the Backyardagans 4x at least now. I usually have my iPhone with me to browse facebook, read a few RSS feeds or play a light game while she is resting. After a 1/2 hr > 45 min of holding my iPhone up to eye level, my elbow starts giving me grief and my eyes are strained.
w/ the iPad, i can do the same with it resting on my lap in a much more natural position.
Entertainment 2: After the kids in bed, if I feel like watching movie, I can launch iTunes and rent or buy a flick (or use a Netflix app) right from my couch, stream it straight to appleTV on my full sized den TV. I can do the same through onDemand, but I refuse to give Cablevision any more money then I have to.
Also I see there is a baseball app (MLB at Bat) that will feed you live strike zone pitch locations and game stats. With the iPad size vs a laptop's, I can see this experience being much more enjoyable.
Entertainment 3: I will be bringing this outside with me to prop up on my deck table to play a little pandoa or slacker while me and the family sit around the fire pit or play on the swing set.
Late night entertainment: I have a newborn arriving soon, I can keep him on one shoulder and catch up on my ABC shows (ABC app) when i'm feeding him at 3am in his nursery where there is no TV.
My Daughter's Education & Entertainment: Like I said, my kid loves playing games and learning on her iPod and my iPhone. I see this as the next logical step for her as she grows. With a larger screen, she can see the letters clearer, video is better and there is more real estate for her. One of her favorite apps is an animal/letter flash crad game where you can trace the letters on screen and she draws a line over each letter with her finger. I can see the larger size very useful as she move into full words.
Also right now she also watches movies on her iPod for long car trips. Screen size again is a bonus here
Um, hello?: Lets not forget the CBS sportsline app where I can check my Fantasy football scores while i'm watching the local game. Yes, laptops can do the same, but again, no boot up, and smaller size makes it better to sit on my lap and use my hands for more important things like wings, beer, chips, etc.
My Work: I'm a graphic artist, I sometimes sketch my ideas before starting a project. I go on client meetings where we brainstorm. I would use some really good sketch apps out there for this, then be able to email my sketches to everyone on the team before we left the meeting. I could also load pdfs on it and present to a client holding it right in front of me in landscape mode while standing.
I also saw an app called "Desktop Connect" where I can view my home office computer on it. I freelance a lot, and say a client calls me about a design I worked on and I'm upstairs, I dont have to tel lthem to hold while I run down 3 flights of stairs to my office computer. I can snag and view PDFs off that machine from the iPad.
Then I see that when docked, you can use the iPad a second monitor. Hell yes! I work on 2 screens in the office but don't have the room in the home office. Now I do.
Magazines and News: I already use my iPhone for breaking news. RSS feeders, my local newspaper app (Newsday), with the larger format, I can browse news so much quicker and easier. The size allows the user interface to be much more robust and navigable then just the top to bottom scroll on my iPhone.
I also subscribe to a decent amount of magazines. I just saw in the last issue of Wired that they have created an iPad version of it. I can see my magazine reading migrating over to it and I might subscribe to some others I don't now b/c I feel bad throwing the printed mag away after I'm done with it.
Here is a great video that the publishers of SI made long before the iPad was officially announced showing how they envision the future of magazines on a tablet type device to be.
Travel: I travel for biz a lot. I don't have to rehash, but yes, they not needing to lug my laptop with me is a great thing. The kindles and other e-readers of the world are pushing this concept, but with this I can play games, watch movies, surf the web and read books.
this is just a few of the ways i plan on integrating the iPad into my homelife. Again, it is not for everyone. I buy that. Yea, would I like a few more bells and whistles (usb, the multitasking debate, no real keyboard). Actually, the only real thing I wish it had was handwriting recognition. But maybe soon. Either way, for all that I listed above, I have no problem spending $500 or so bucks on it.
#1: I do not in any way expect this to replace my computer. Never did. This is purely an accessory. Some people will spend money on upgraded speakers for their car, the newest golf club even though they are a hacker, or the latest overpriced jeans. thats cool....but I don't do any of those and would rather spend disposable income on things like this.
me: married, 1 kid (4 yr old), 1 on the way. I'm a graphic designer (so yes, read it as I have a 15 in MacBook at home and an apple design station at work). I also have an iPhone 3gs and an old click-wheel iPod that is still kicking. My wife is a grade-school teacher. My wife has a 17 in Widows laptop (that is heavier then #### IMO)
My daughter mastered my iPhone a few weeks after I got it and we have a ton of educational games on it for her. She used it so much that I couldn't even get on it so we bought her a referb iPod touch for xmas. (take a look at the cover story of this months Fast Company about kids and the smartphone/iPod touch educational revolution. My kid could have been on the cover)
My home office is in my basement of a 3 level house.
So , when I get my iPad (I'm waiting on one freelance check to come in for it).....
simple browsing/day to day stuff: like I said, my home office is in the basement so my laptop is usually there. My wife's 17 inch Acer (and its endless power cord i always trip over) is usually hanging off the endtable in the den b/c she uses the computer more for day to day stuff. She pays the bills, does some shopping (PeaPod food delivery, right now new baby stuff, etc). I can't tell you how many times she has said "Crap, I forgot to transfer the money from when we bought {whatever}" and she would lug open the laptop, boot it up and make the transfer.
with an iPad, we can do these things instantly, but be able to slide it away in the bookcase or in a cabinet and out of the way
also: IMDB app, craigslist, ebay, mint, FB, LinkedIn, Twitter, wiki, etc.
Entertainment: My daughter watches her few favorite shows just before bed. I have seen every episiode of the Backyardagans 4x at least now. I usually have my iPhone with me to browse facebook, read a few RSS feeds or play a light game while she is resting. After a 1/2 hr > 45 min of holding my iPhone up to eye level, my elbow starts giving me grief and my eyes are strained.
w/ the iPad, i can do the same with it resting on my lap in a much more natural position.
Entertainment 2: After the kids in bed, if I feel like watching movie, I can launch iTunes and rent or buy a flick (or use a Netflix app) right from my couch, stream it straight to appleTV on my full sized den TV. I can do the same through onDemand, but I refuse to give Cablevision any more money then I have to.
Also I see there is a baseball app (MLB at Bat) that will feed you live strike zone pitch locations and game stats. With the iPad size vs a laptop's, I can see this experience being much more enjoyable.
Entertainment 3: I will be bringing this outside with me to prop up on my deck table to play a little pandoa or slacker while me and the family sit around the fire pit or play on the swing set.
Late night entertainment: I have a newborn arriving soon, I can keep him on one shoulder and catch up on my ABC shows (ABC app) when i'm feeding him at 3am in his nursery where there is no TV.
My Daughter's Education & Entertainment: Like I said, my kid loves playing games and learning on her iPod and my iPhone. I see this as the next logical step for her as she grows. With a larger screen, she can see the letters clearer, video is better and there is more real estate for her. One of her favorite apps is an animal/letter flash crad game where you can trace the letters on screen and she draws a line over each letter with her finger. I can see the larger size very useful as she move into full words.
Also right now she also watches movies on her iPod for long car trips. Screen size again is a bonus here
Um, hello?: Lets not forget the CBS sportsline app where I can check my Fantasy football scores while i'm watching the local game. Yes, laptops can do the same, but again, no boot up, and smaller size makes it better to sit on my lap and use my hands for more important things like wings, beer, chips, etc.
My Work: I'm a graphic artist, I sometimes sketch my ideas before starting a project. I go on client meetings where we brainstorm. I would use some really good sketch apps out there for this, then be able to email my sketches to everyone on the team before we left the meeting. I could also load pdfs on it and present to a client holding it right in front of me in landscape mode while standing.
I also saw an app called "Desktop Connect" where I can view my home office computer on it. I freelance a lot, and say a client calls me about a design I worked on and I'm upstairs, I dont have to tel lthem to hold while I run down 3 flights of stairs to my office computer. I can snag and view PDFs off that machine from the iPad.
Then I see that when docked, you can use the iPad a second monitor. Hell yes! I work on 2 screens in the office but don't have the room in the home office. Now I do.
Magazines and News: I already use my iPhone for breaking news. RSS feeders, my local newspaper app (Newsday), with the larger format, I can browse news so much quicker and easier. The size allows the user interface to be much more robust and navigable then just the top to bottom scroll on my iPhone.
I also subscribe to a decent amount of magazines. I just saw in the last issue of Wired that they have created an iPad version of it. I can see my magazine reading migrating over to it and I might subscribe to some others I don't now b/c I feel bad throwing the printed mag away after I'm done with it.
Here is a great video that the publishers of SI made long before the iPad was officially announced showing how they envision the future of magazines on a tablet type device to be.
Travel: I travel for biz a lot. I don't have to rehash, but yes, they not needing to lug my laptop with me is a great thing. The kindles and other e-readers of the world are pushing this concept, but with this I can play games, watch movies, surf the web and read books.
this is just a few of the ways i plan on integrating the iPad into my homelife. Again, it is not for everyone. I buy that. Yea, would I like a few more bells and whistles (usb, the multitasking debate, no real keyboard). Actually, the only real thing I wish it had was handwriting recognition. But maybe soon. Either way, for all that I listed above, I have no problem spending $500 or so bucks on it.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
That's probably true, but it's basically just an iPod Touch with a larger screen. At least that's my perception. It seems to me that you're basically just spending an extra $300 for more screen. Which is fine, but not really any type of game changer IMO. I think there are even some significant advantages to a smaller form factor (and obviously advantages for the larger form factor). I guess I just don't see why there would be a growing chunk of the population that would want to spend an extra $300 for a Jumbo iPod Touch.
glvsav37
Footballguy
usability. And I mean that in the web/information navigation way. the larger screen is a HUGE plus IMO b/c you can do/see/ more and navigate better on the page you are currently on. I'll ask the question (again from a web/info usability standpoint) in reverse. Why would you buy (and surf on) an iPod touch when you have a desktop computer? I mean all your getting is smaller screen, right?I see your point, but just look at some of the screen shots from the news outlet apps thy are releasing. It is very simple to browse multiple topics and stories as opposed to the iPod/phone linier up and down scrolling.
Dexter
Footballguy
This is what I want before I buy in iPad or any system like it. I want to be able to take notes by writing and have the system turn them into typed words.
glvsav37
Footballguy
I'm hoping a 3rd party app comes out for it and they can integrate it with the calendar and notes and such.
3C's
Footballguy
Oh bull####. You and Card Trader were at it for days.
Explain what is so good about it? What added functionality would we be looking at?
Not really, i grab new albums all the time. Why would I not get new stuff especially something like Comedy albums while I'm on the go? I use the Zune now so I grab a lot more than I used to but it seems critical to be able to do that. I guess you can buy the albums on the iPad then download them on the iPod touch but would be out of luck with normal iPods. Then again wireless synch sounds huge to me now that I use it. Maybe Apple will add that to the iPad to solve the USB port problem.
3C's
Footballguy
Not once?
Otis said:
Card Trader
Footballguy
Not sure I've said much confrontational in this thread about the iPad...
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
Right, because he's in business to see how much he can piss people off.
Come on, that's the government's job.
Card Trader
Footballguy
On the flip side, if the guy shined up a fresh steamy turd and slapped his logo on it, the fanboys would spend an equal amount of effort defending it and talking about how it's a "game changer" or "revolutionary". It's cult like.
IDrinkyourMilkshake
Footballguy
This thread sucks. Just like the iPad.
Redding
Footballguy
We get it. You don't like it. Why are you still here?
3C's
Footballguy
worked hard? took about 5 seconds...other than that too many quotes bull####.I'm just giving you a hard time. I'm glad you're happy with it and like it so much. I'll never buy one. Don't see or have a need for one.Have you used it?This thread sucks. Just like the iPad.
Card Trader
Footballguy
At this point? Just to get under YOUR skin. Easier job than I thought it'd be.
3C's
Footballguy
wax poetically please
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
Have the same 6 or so guys been fighting it out all day? You have no idea if I'll eventually buy one. I have many Apple products in my house so jump off you high horse. I've asked several legit questions and pointed out how I would use USB and how they might fix not having USB using wireless synch. I was excited when the rumors started and was hoping for a scaled down Macbook crammed in. Sure I'm disappointed and have been critical of the device.I've also asked legit questions around the other thread. Here they are again.1. How does it perform in direct sunlight?2. How good is battery life if it's cranked to full if your in direct sunlight?3. Will there be a faster way to synch the device other than wireless?4. How do you print?5. Will/does the device support raw photos?6. Does it have a way to import digital video to edit and play such as USB, firewire, etc?7. Is the keyboard usable?8. Will I have to take my MacBook with me to synch my iPod's? Since it has no USB port?9. How much are we talking by the time you by all the apps and accesories to make it do the majority of things?10. Will it support cached TV shows from Hulu, etc for watching outside of a wi-fi connection?11. Does it have an FM tuner like the smaller iPods?12. Can I load my on e-books bought from other sources on the iPad?13. Can I get books from my local library?14. Will it support google books?15. Does it support a wider range of codecs than the iTouch such as Flac, OGG, etc?16. Same as 15 for video17. How do I get my bought DVD's such as the sopranos on the device? How long will it take?I'm sure there's a lot more.
Yawn. Explain why or it's just an uninformed post.
EYLive
Footballguy
Same reason atheists trash religion with multiple hate threads. It's fun to
Was talking to a neighbor that is getting one for his parents. He stated it's the perfect device for people who don't understand technology. Apparently his parents struggle with every computer they have just to get a browser going and so this would make his life a lot easier supporting them.I can see the point as my mom struggles with the few things she does on the computer. Much easier to have a limited device to make life easier for them to just consume media. It might not be the best but I can see where he's coming from on that angle.
