Chunky Soup
Footballguy
You've been doing it on every page of the thread. I gave up taking decent time to respond to you. Can't you just relax and enjoy possibly the coolest product since the iPhone? Or maybe just go back to your Android thread?
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Footballguy
And yours make me want to gouge my eyes out. Glad we understand each other now.
goonsquad
Think different.
Yeah, because Google CEO Eric Schmidt didn't get any ideas from the iPhone while he was a member of Apple's Board of Directors. You guys are being pretty petty here.Was just talking to a coworker about this. Now that they can do multi tasking and have folders and can search txt msgs they will put them in their commercials and make it seem as if they came up with these ideas on a mobile device. It's almost like they are looking at Android and trying to take as many features as possible.I know. I was told on the wonder Apple GUI it wasn't needed and I was pretty much bashing it for no reason. I find it very funny now that Apple has actually made it a feature. It'll be innovative now!!!!!!!!!!Android has had this since day 1
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Footballguy
C'mon goon, it may be petty but you remember doing the same thing...right? "Wake me when they come up with something new" or something along those lines in your comment about the Nexus One and commenting how they copied the iPhone. We all do it.Yeah, because Google CEO Eric Schmidt didn't get any ideas from the iPhone while he was a member of Apple's Board of Directors. You guys are being pretty petty here.
i had to bail on the thread once Lokikx got involved. he completely tooled it up.Jesus christ this is pathetic
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He didn't even jump into the thread till well past halfway through. I think the guy is now outposting all others in this thread combined.
Cold down in Mom's basement?
Once again another useless post. Try again, I shared real world experiences and what I thought were issues. You simply made posts like the above. Just to not make this a pointless post like yours.Looks like the Ads are/can be mini-apps inside an app. they showed a toy story mini-game launched from the ad. Kinda cool I suppose if you like ads. Curious what is going to happen to app prices.
Jesus christ this is pathetic
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LokiKx 82
Redding 80
Joe Bryant 47
Otis 45
3C's 44
Card Trader 38
He didn't even jump into the thread till well past halfway through. I think the guy is now outposting all others in this thread combined.
Cold down in Mom's basement?
I have the advantage of not typing on an iPad. Just kidding. What's it matter how much I post. At least they not all useless like yours. See quoted as an example.Where's the links you provided to reviews of the iPad? where your hands on experience detailed? Where are you ideas for tethering like one guy asked about? Or anything useful?You Apple fan boys really are touchy.i had to bail on the thread once Lokikx got involved. he completely tooled it up.Jesus christ this is pathetic
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LokiKx 82
Redding 80
Joe Bryant 47
Otis 45
3C's 44
Card Trader 38
He didn't even jump into the thread till well past halfway through. I think the guy is now outposting all others in this thread combined.
Cold down in Mom's basement?
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Every single one of them is probably technically off topic. You've hijacked the #### out of this thread.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Crazy.
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Insoxicated
Intriguing. You have a link to any of this preso? Been busy at work and haven't had a chance to see any demos. I agree 100% that a stylus is a nice thing to avoid. I also love the idea of not having to waste clicks/touches to navigate through a task manager.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Ignoramus
Footballguy
Actually, the #1 poster in this thread has almost as many posts as #2 and #3 combined.Jesus christ this is pathetic
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LokiKx 82
Redding 80
Joe Bryant 47
Otis 45
3C's 44
Card Trader 38
He didn't even jump into the thread till well past halfway through. I think the guy is now outposting all others in this thread combined.
Cold down in Mom's basement?
Such a great new idea.
goonsquad
Think different.
One of my better posts. Ruffled some serious feathers with that one.C'mon goon, it may be petty but you remember doing the same thing...right? "Wake me when they come up with something new" or something along those lines in your comment about the Nexus One and commenting how they copied the iPhone. We all do it.Yeah, because Google CEO Eric Schmidt didn't get any ideas from the iPhone while he was a member of Apple's Board of Directors. You guys are being pretty petty here.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
In my experience multi-tasking has been a drain on the battery and performance. Apple today has basically said there will be ~0 battery/performance drain. Now that is a great idea. Once again taking what we already have and making it better. I think Joe talked about this being one of the things Apple does well and often.
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Footballguy
I'm looking forward to upgrading to 4.0 on my Touch but a lot of the new stuff is already available if you jailbreak.
If we're still talking about ipads in this thread, I didn't realize until now that only the 3g versions had GPS. I never planned on wanting a 3g ipad, I have wifi at home, work, wifi tether to my phone, have a wifi hotspot in my car but a GPS enabled ipad is something I'd want. This makes the waiting a bit easier for me.
If we're still talking about ipads in this thread, I didn't realize until now that only the 3g versions had GPS. I never planned on wanting a 3g ipad, I have wifi at home, work, wifi tether to my phone, have a wifi hotspot in my car
but a GPS enabled ipad is something I'd want. This makes the waiting a bit easier for me.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Worst thing about OS4 by far is that it doesn't hit the iPad until Fall. Ughh.
Guess I missed where you were talking about 0% battery drain? So they found a way to make it take 0 battery life to keep the radio streaming pandora or downloading a file? Reduce yes but limiting multi-tasking or not having a true multi-tasking system. They gave 7 api's that can do things in the background to help reduce the drain by just any app do anything. Don't get me wrong I like the implementation but what your stating is incorrect.
I'll have to upgrade my wifes phone to have multi-tasking on it. Luckily my Touch will be fine since it's a third gen.I'm looking forward to upgrading to 4.0 on my Touch but a lot of the new stuff is already available if you jailbreak.If we're still talking about ipads in this thread, I didn't realize until now that only the 3g versions had GPS. I never planned on wanting a 3g ipad, I have wifi at home, work, wifi tether to my phone, have a wifi hotspot in my car
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Well there ya go. Multitasking, App Folders, Unified Threaded Mail, Game Center (ie XBOX Live for your Phone - WOW).
Quite a nice set of improvements for IPOS4
Gonna have to see iAd in action before I make judgement on it. If it just pops up a small banner at the bottom every 3 mins and requires you to activate the interactive ads (which look pretty slick) then it's not THAT bad. If #### pops up full screen every 3 minutes in an App I'll be getting a droid.
Quite a nice set of improvements for IPOS4
Gonna have to see iAd in action before I make judgement on it. If it just pops up a small banner at the bottom every 3 mins and requires you to activate the interactive ads (which look pretty slick) then it's not THAT bad. If #### pops up full screen every 3 minutes in an App I'll be getting a droid.
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Footballguy
Oh, you mean like when Otis reminded us how the iPhone had pinch zoom all along and Droid finally "caught up"?
Huge.Well there ya go. Multitasking, App Folders, Unified Threaded Mail, Game Center (ie XBOX Live for your Phone - WOW).
Quite a nice set of improvements for IPOS4
Gonna have to see iAd in action before I make judgement on it. If it just pops up a small banner at the bottom every 3 mins and requires you to activate the interactive ads (which look pretty slick) then it's not THAT bad. If #### pops up full screen every 3 minutes in an App I'll be getting a droid.
California
Footballguy
I'm all for Apple/Android/Microsoft/Palm/Blackberry copying the best of each other's features if it gives me a better user experience.
Palm has the best multitasking approach on a smartphone by far. Too bad they're gonna die.
Palm has the best multitasking approach on a smartphone by far. Too bad they're gonna die.
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Footballguy
Wouldn't mind upgrading my daughters touch but I had to jailbreak it to install an app that replaces the (broken) home button. Of course it breaks two months after the warranty ends.I'm looking forward to upgrading to 4.0 on my Touch but a lot of the new stuff is already available if you jailbreak.If we're still talking about ipads in this thread, I didn't realize until now that only the 3g versions had GPS. I never planned on wanting a 3g ipad, I have wifi at home, work, wifi tether to my phone, have a wifi hotspot in my car
Fortunately, if you want to call it that, the first one broke while still in warranty.
California
Footballguy
I'm going through the press conference today. Why will iphone/touch get 4.0 in the summer, but ipads in the fall? I know there will be a new iphone in June with 4.0 on it but I thought Apple would want to update their ipads asap.
The Commish
Footballguy
I wonder how this will work. If a program is running in the background it's going to use the battery no? For example, it's a problem on the Android phones. They have an app to help with it. I am wondering how Apple plans on letting things run without using the battery. That will definitely be innovative IMO if they can accomplish it.
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Footballguy
Agreed, but have a hard time believing it. It's almost like they are not talking about multi-tasking but rather saving the state an app was in when you leave it...guess I should download the new sdk and look at it.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
~0 was intended to be near zero, not exactly zero. In the presentation they were saying how little battery and performance it sucked up. It seems through that in some ways, the state of the app will be saved and not actually run (for instance, if you pause a game of scrabble). However, in other apps it will play audio (Pandora) or do location services (TomTom) in the background. Different apps utilize the background in different ways.
They are providing 7 api's or services that allow background tasks to work. For other apps the state is saved.
The Commish
Footballguy
I probably shouldn't have assumed that they were using the common definition of "multi-tasking". Either way, it will still be interesting to see what they mean. The most expensive action an OS can make is writing from memory to disk or pulling from disk to memory. If they don't ever have to close an app, memory will run out eventually and the increased interaction with disk is inevitable. I agree 100% that they can write apps to use less power if they aren't at the forefront....not requiring apps to be turned off will bite them eventually IMO.
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Footballguy
This makes a lot more sense.
Developers are locked into the 7 provided API's. GPS will burn off battery super quickly. So if you are a legit GPS app you use that API. If your a social APP then you call that API. If your a music app you call that API, etc, etc.Otherwise your state is saved.
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Footballguy
I have to wonder if once 4.0 is released if they will now be checking for power saving code in the submissions to the Market before approving.
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Surprised at this as well. iPads just shipped a week ago? Why not hold them back 2 weeks, and put 4.0 on them?Gonna be some irate iPad adopters if 4.0 doesn't work on the 1st generation of iPads.
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Agreed though I'd put the odds of this at 0%
gmbacm
Footballguy
Would this be a free upgrade for a 3rd gen touch?I'm looking forward to upgrading to 4.0 on my Touch but a lot of the new stuff is already available if you jailbreak.If we're still talking about ipads in this thread, I didn't realize until now that only the 3g versions had GPS. I never planned on wanting a 3g ipad, I have wifi at home, work, wifi tether to my phone, have a wifi hotspot in my carbut a GPS enabled ipad is something I'd want. This makes the waiting a bit easier for me.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
You'd think so. But I'm surprised it won't work on the iPhone 3G.
Isn't 3g the last iphone? And the new OS can't work with it?Is that right?JYou'd think so. But I'm surprised it won't work on the iPhone 3G.
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Footballguy
I don't think any pricing was released but I'd be surprised if it wasn't $10 for Touch, free for iphone, like 3.0.Would this be a free upgrade for a 3rd gen touch?I'm looking forward to upgrading to 4.0 on my Touch but a lot of the new stuff is already available if you jailbreak.If we're still talking about ipads in this thread, I didn't realize until now that only the 3g versions had GPS. I never planned on wanting a 3g ipad, I have wifi at home, work, wifi tether to my phone, have a wifi hotspot in my carbut a GPS enabled ipad is something I'd want. This makes the waiting a bit easier for me.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
3G-S is the newest iPhone.3G will have been out for two years when OS4 comes out, and it can upgrade to it -- just can't do everything (eg multitask)Isn't 3g the last iphone? And the new OS can't work with it?Is that right?JYou'd think so. But I'm surprised it won't work on the iPhone 3G.
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Footballguy
Latest iphone is 3GS, which you can upgrade.The one before that is 3G, which you can't.There's still a ton of 3G iphones in use right now.edit: correction, 3G can upgrade to 4.0, no multi tasking tho (actually should be called app switching).Isn't 3g the last iphone? And the new OS can't work with it?Is that right?JYou'd think so. But I'm surprised it won't work on the iPhone 3G.
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
No, the latest iPhone iteration is 3Gs. 4.0 will work on the 3Gs, though most of my fanboy friends didn't upgrade to the 3Gs from the 3G b/c in their opinion it wasn't a huge upgrade. Now they're short if they want 4.0, but I have no doubt they'll ante up for iPhone HD in a few month if it lives up to the hype on internet boards.Isn't 3g the last iphone? And the new OS can't work with it?Is that right?JYou'd think so. But I'm surprised it won't work on the iPhone 3G.
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Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
3Gs was the last iPhoneIsn't 3g the last iphone? And the new OS can't work with it?Is that right?JYou'd think so. But I'm surprised it won't work on the iPhone 3G.
Yes. The childish behavior in here has been lame. Starting with things like you said. Apple guy taunts the Android feature. Then the Android guy taunts the apple feature. Then apple guy taunts the android feature because he got his feelings hurt that he was taunted over the last feature. It's like a bunch of kindergarteners in here. On both sides. Please grow up some.JOh, you mean like when Otis reminded us how the iPhone had pinch zoom all along and Droid finally "caught up"?
Thanks.J3G-S is the newest iPhone.3G will have been out for two years when OS4 comes out, and it can upgrade to it -- just can't do everything (eg multitask)Isn't 3g the last iphone? And the new OS can't work with it?Is that right?JYou'd think so. But I'm surprised it won't work on the iPhone 3G.
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