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[B-Deep]

Israel = owned

that's what Heinrich Himmler said

 

[towney]

Any info. on when the WIFI+3G version comes out? Wondering if it's better to wait for this one since you should be able to take it anywhere.

 

[California]

Any info. on when the WIFI+3G version comes out? Wondering if it's better to wait for this one since you should be able to take it anywhere.

May 7. And yes, get the 3G version, even if you don't think you might not need 3G right away. It's an extra $130 but if you can afford an ipad, you can afford this for the GPS functions and having a no contract connection available when you might need it.

 

[Otis]

Any info. on when the WIFI+3G version comes out? Wondering if it's better to wait for this one since you should be able to take it anywhere.

May 7. And yes, get the 3G version, even if you don't think you might not need 3G right away. It's an extra $130 but if you can afford an ipad, you can afford this for the GPS functions and having a no contract connection available when you might need it.

If it were just $130 difference, I'd have definitely waited for 3G. Trouble I had was with the additional 30 bucks a month for coverage. That adds up to a lot more than $130 over the course of a year...

 

[goonsquad]

Any info. on when the WIFI+3G version comes out? Wondering if it's better to wait for this one since you should be able to take it anywhere.

May 7. And yes, get the 3G version, even if you don't think you might not need 3G right away. It's an extra $130 but if you can afford an ipad, you can afford this for the GPS functions and having a no contract connection available when you might need it.

If it were just $130 difference, I'd have definitely waited for 3G. Trouble I had was with the additional 30 bucks a month for coverage. That adds up to a lot more than $130 over the course of a year...

Well there's no contract, you can just use the 3G as needed (on a monthly basis). But then why pay the extra $130 if you're not going to use it? I don't know what I'd buy. Quite the conundrum.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Any info. on when the WIFI+3G version comes out? Wondering if it's better to wait for this one since you should be able to take it anywhere.

May 7. And yes, get the 3G version, even if you don't think you might not need 3G right away. It's an extra $130 but if you can afford an ipad, you can afford this for the GPS functions and having a no contract connection available when you might need it.

If it were just $130 difference, I'd have definitely waited for 3G. Trouble I had was with the additional 30 bucks a month for coverage. That adds up to a lot more than $130 over the course of a year...

Nice having T-mobile, jailbreak and only pay $10 for data plan

 

[Joe Bryant]

Is Brogan right here? You can't start a new google doc on the ipad? http://www.chrisbrogan.com/next-ipad-annoy...sbrogandotcom+([chrisbrogan.com])

J

 

[noneother]

Is Brogan right here? You can't start a new google doc on the ipad? http://www.chrisbrogan.com/next-ipad-annoy...sbrogandotcom+([chrisbrogan.com])

J

Not from safari. Ipad or iPhone. Not sure if one of the apps that sync to google docs can support that action. I'm too cheap to buy many apps.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Is Brogan right here? You can't start a new google doc on the ipad? http://www.chrisbrogan.com/next-ipad-annoy...sbrogandotcom+([chrisbrogan.com])

J

Not from safari. Ipad or iPhone. Not sure if one of the apps that sync to google docs can support that action. I'm too cheap to buy many apps.

Thanks noneother. Bummer.

J

 

[[icon]]

Is Brogan right here? You can't start a new google doc on the ipad? http://www.chrisbrogan.com/next-ipad-annoy...sbrogandotcom+([chrisbrogan.com])

J

Not from safari. Ipad or iPhone. Not sure if one of the apps that sync to google docs can support that action. I'm too cheap to buy many apps.

Thanks noneother. Bummer.

J

Joe, This does not seem to be an issue unique to Apple's iPad. This is something that is an issue for most mobile browsers viewing Google Docs. Reading the comments the Palm Pre has the same issue. No idea if it affects android phones but it appears to be already fixable via a Free App and will be patched soon.

Sometimes people need to remember that this thing has been on the market for less than a month...

 

[Zalf]

Any info. on when the WIFI+3G version comes out? Wondering if it's better to wait for this one since you should be able to take it anywhere.

May 7. And yes, get the 3G version, even if you don't think you might not need 3G right away. It's an extra $130 but if you can afford an ipad, you can afford this for the GPS functions and having a no contract connection available when you might need it.

Actually the 3G release is April 30th at 5pm. May 7th is the quoted deliver by date for anyone ordering on the website after; I think; April 17th.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Is Brogan right here? You can't start a new google doc on the ipad? http://www.chrisbrogan.com/next-ipad-annoy...sbrogandotcom+([chrisbrogan.com])

J

Not from safari. Ipad or iPhone. Not sure if one of the apps that sync to google docs can support that action. I'm too cheap to buy many apps.

Thanks noneother. Bummer.

J

Joe, This does not seem to be an issue unique to Apple's iPad. This is something that is an issue for most mobile browsers viewing Google Docs. Reading the comments the Palm Pre has the same issue. No idea if it affects android phones but it appears to be already fixable via a Free App and will be patched soon.

Sometimes people need to remember that this thing has been on the market for less than a month...

Thanks icon. And this goes back to what it's intended for and how it's used I know. But for me, I weigh it against a netbook. I'm willing to make some sacrifices for the cool things it can do and the user interface. But by and large, it gets compared to a net book for me as I have to have that ability and don't see carrying a netbook and an ipad. So I'm asking "can I do without my netbook and use the ipad?" Again, this is me. But things like this on google docs is a pretty big drawback. But you're right, maybe it'll be available in future releases.

J

 

[Otis]

Is Brogan right here? You can't start a new google doc on the ipad? http://www.chrisbrogan.com/next-ipad-annoy...sbrogandotcom+([chrisbrogan.com])

J

Not from safari. Ipad or iPhone. Not sure if one of the apps that sync to google docs can support that action. I'm too cheap to buy many apps.

Thanks noneother. Bummer.

J

Joe, This does not seem to be an issue unique to Apple's iPad. This is something that is an issue for most mobile browsers viewing Google Docs. Reading the comments the Palm Pre has the same issue. No idea if it affects android phones but it appears to be already fixable via a Free App and will be patched soon.

Sometimes people need to remember that this thing has been on the market for less than a month...

Thanks icon. And this goes back to what it's intended for and how it's used I know. But for me, I weigh it against a netbook. I'm willing to make some sacrifices for the cool things it can do and the user interface. But by and large, it gets compared to a net book for me as I have to have that ability and don't see carrying a netbook and an ipad. So I'm asking "can I do without my netbook and use the ipad?" Again, this is me. But things like this on google docs is a pretty big drawback. But you're right, maybe it'll be available in future releases.

J

Yeah, this is a Google Docs thing, not an iPad thing. I noticed I couldn't start or edit documents, and could only view them, using the Google App for iPad. You've got to figure that Google will provide an App that will allow editing of Google docs from the iPad (and other mobile devices, including Android) -- that's really the whole strength of Google docs, is to have them in the cloud and access them whenever from wherever. That's one of the best parts of these tablets.Ultimately seems like something that will sort itself out in the coming months. Google is smart enough to want people hooked on their products, and the iPad/android tablets will have a ginormous user base.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko...-040210.articleWhy no Flash? Because it’s a dumb technology that causes computers to slowly die of theatrical Jane Austen-style diseases. I installed a plugin for my desktop browser that prevents all webpages from loading in Flash content and that’s the day when my computer became as fast and reliable as I wanted it to be.

 

[gmbacm]

Yeah, this is a Google Docs thing, not an iPad thing. I noticed I couldn't start or edit documents, and could only view them, using the Google App for iPad. You've got to figure that Google will provide an App that will allow editing of Google docs from the iPad (and other mobile devices, including Android) -- that's really the whole strength of Google docs, is to have them in the cloud and access them whenever from wherever. That's one of the best parts of these tablets.

Ultimately seems like something that will sort itself out in the coming months. Google is smart enough to want people hooked on their products, and the iPad/android tablets will have a ginormous user base.

While google docs certainly plays a role in this, its a bit shortsighted to pass all the blame from the ipad. As many have pointed out, the ipad isnt just a mobile device, and for many people thats not the purpose at all. In fact apple claims it is the best way to experience the web - hands down. Arguable since is it handicapped with a limited, mobile browser.

 

[Otis]

Yeah, this is a Google Docs thing, not an iPad thing. I noticed I couldn't start or edit documents, and could only view them, using the Google App for iPad. You've got to figure that Google will provide an App that will allow editing of Google docs from the iPad (and other mobile devices, including Android) -- that's really the whole strength of Google docs, is to have them in the cloud and access them whenever from wherever. That's one of the best parts of these tablets.

Ultimately seems like something that will sort itself out in the coming months. Google is smart enough to want people hooked on their products, and the iPad/android tablets will have a ginormous user base.

While google docs certainly plays a role in this, its a bit shortsighted to pass all the blame from the ipad. As many have pointed out, the ipad isnt just a mobile device, and for many people thats not the purpose at all. In fact apple claims it is the best way to experience the web - hands down. Arguable since is it handicapped with a limited, mobile browser.

It's Google's application. They have to build it to support the browsers, and that's the way it's been for them since the beginning. Yeah, I guess Apple could modify its browser to support a single company's specialized web applications (which doesn't make much sense), or could even develop it's own Google docs app, but it makes a whole bunch more sense for GOOGLE to develop that stuff -- which is exactly what they have done all along and will continue to do. This issue is just a result of the iPad being the first such device out there, and it being the first month of its release. I would bet big money it's a non-issue in 3 months, particularly given the huge success of the iPad. The same way people flocked to make apps for the iPhone and make themselves iPhone compatible, companies will do the same with iPad. Heck, you can even see it already, as so many websites have already converted to HTML5 to be iPad-friendly.

 

[goonsquad]

Yeah, this is a Google Docs thing, not an iPad thing. I noticed I couldn't start or edit documents, and could only view them, using the Google App for iPad. You've got to figure that Google will provide an App that will allow editing of Google docs from the iPad (and other mobile devices, including Android) -- that's really the whole strength of Google docs, is to have them in the cloud and access them whenever from wherever. That's one of the best parts of these tablets.

Ultimately seems like something that will sort itself out in the coming months. Google is smart enough to want people hooked on their products, and the iPad/android tablets will have a ginormous user base.

While google docs certainly plays a role in this, its a bit shortsighted to pass all the blame from the ipad. As many have pointed out, the ipad isnt just a mobile device, and for many people thats not the purpose at all. In fact apple claims it is the best way to experience the web - hands down. Arguable since is it handicapped with a limited, mobile browser.

Just stop already. You're intentionally taking this quote completely out of context. It's talking about the MutliTouch display and using your hands to interact with the internet instead of a mouse or touch pad. "Hands down". Get it?

 

[gmbacm]

Yeah, this is a Google Docs thing, not an iPad thing. I noticed I couldn't start or edit documents, and could only view them, using the Google App for iPad. You've got to figure that Google will provide an App that will allow editing of Google docs from the iPad (and other mobile devices, including Android) -- that's really the whole strength of Google docs, is to have them in the cloud and access them whenever from wherever. That's one of the best parts of these tablets.

Ultimately seems like something that will sort itself out in the coming months. Google is smart enough to want people hooked on their products, and the iPad/android tablets will have a ginormous user base.

While google docs certainly plays a role in this, its a bit shortsighted to pass all the blame from the ipad. As many have pointed out, the ipad isnt just a mobile device, and for many people thats not the purpose at all. In fact apple claims it is the best way to experience the web - hands down. Arguable since is it handicapped with a limited, mobile browser.

Just stop already. You're intentionally taking this quote completely out of context. It's talking about the MutliTouch display and using your hands to interact with the internet instead of a mouse or touch pad. "Hands down". Get it?

Its on apples main ipad page. How is that out of context. Many people, familiar and unfamiliar with apple, will read that and assume that is their claim.

 

[Otis]

Yeah, this is a Google Docs thing, not an iPad thing. I noticed I couldn't start or edit documents, and could only view them, using the Google App for iPad. You've got to figure that Google will provide an App that will allow editing of Google docs from the iPad (and other mobile devices, including Android) -- that's really the whole strength of Google docs, is to have them in the cloud and access them whenever from wherever. That's one of the best parts of these tablets.

Ultimately seems like something that will sort itself out in the coming months. Google is smart enough to want people hooked on their products, and the iPad/android tablets will have a ginormous user base.

While google docs certainly plays a role in this, its a bit shortsighted to pass all the blame from the ipad. As many have pointed out, the ipad isnt just a mobile device, and for many people thats not the purpose at all. In fact apple claims it is the best way to experience the web - hands down. Arguable since is it handicapped with a limited, mobile browser.

Just stop already. You're intentionally taking this quote completely out of context. It's talking about the MutliTouch display and using your hands to interact with the internet instead of a mouse or touch pad. "Hands down". Get it?

Its on apples main ipad page. How is that out of context. Many people, familiar and unfamiliar with apple, will read that and assume that is their claim.

Having used it for a month I'd be fine with that claim.

 

[gmbacm]

Yeah, this is a Google Docs thing, not an iPad thing. I noticed I couldn't start or edit documents, and could only view them, using the Google App for iPad. You've got to figure that Google will provide an App that will allow editing of Google docs from the iPad (and other mobile devices, including Android) -- that's really the whole strength of Google docs, is to have them in the cloud and access them whenever from wherever. That's one of the best parts of these tablets.

Ultimately seems like something that will sort itself out in the coming months. Google is smart enough to want people hooked on their products, and the iPad/android tablets will have a ginormous user base.

While google docs certainly plays a role in this, its a bit shortsighted to pass all the blame from the ipad. As many have pointed out, the ipad isnt just a mobile device, and for many people thats not the purpose at all. In fact apple claims it is the best way to experience the web - hands down. Arguable since is it handicapped with a limited, mobile browser.

Just stop already. You're intentionally taking this quote completely out of context. It's talking about the MutliTouch display and using your hands to interact with the internet instead of a mouse or touch pad. "Hands down". Get it?

Its on apples main ipad page. How is that out of context. Many people, familiar and unfamiliar with apple, will read that and assume that is their claim.

Having used it for a month I'd be fine with that claim.

exactly. I actually have no problem with the claim as Im sure many believe it. I think not limiting the ipad with a mobile browser would only enhance the claim and make it accurate IMO. I dont know why anyone would be up in arms about it being out of context.

 

[Gordo]

Finally got a chance to stop at Best Buy and play with an iPad. I liked it, and will probably get one eventually.

On my way out of the store, I noticed the Barnes & Noble Nook on display, so I stopped to check that out since my daughter has mentioned wanting either a Nook or Kindle. Even though I knew better, 3 or 4 times as I am using the Nook, I found myself tapping the screen to select something and being frustrated when it did't work. I know it serves a completely different purpose than the iPad, but after playing with the iPad, the lack of touch screen capabilities on the main screen made this thing seem like an antique.

 

[The Commish]

It's Google's application. They have to build it to support the browsers, and that's the way it's been for them since the beginning. Yeah, I guess Apple could modify its browser to support a single company's specialized web applications (which doesn't make much sense), or could even develop it's own Google docs app, but it makes a whole bunch more sense for GOOGLE to develop that stuff -- which is exactly what they have done all along and will continue to do.

This issue is just a result of the iPad being the first such device out there, and it being the first month of its release. I would bet big money it's a non-issue in 3 months, particularly given the huge success of the iPad. The same way people flocked to make apps for the iPhone and make themselves iPhone compatible, companies will do the same with iPad. Heck, you can even see it already, as so many websites have already converted to HTML5 to be iPad-friendly.

You asked me a few posts back why I came in here still and I told you because I was trying to get information about Apple and their direction. I lied...it's for gems like this.

 

[Otis]

Heck, you can even see it already, as so many websites have already converted to HTML5 to be iPad-friendly.

You asked me a few posts back why I came in here still and I told you because I was trying to get information about Apple and their direction. I lied...it's for gems like this.

I'm glad you keep coming back, because you are way too easy to abuse, repeatedly. Hell, even my dog used to eventually slink into the corner when he was wrong this frequently. Not you...How the iPad is already reshaping the internet

iPad flash dismissal encourages HTML5 growth

CBS chooses HTML5 over flash

Facebook videos go HTML5 -- iPad compatible

iPad already changing the way websites are built

My dog....

 

[The Commish]

Heck, you can even see it already, as so many websites have already converted to HTML5 to be iPad-friendly.

You asked me a few posts back why I came in here still and I told you because I was trying to get information about Apple and their direction. I lied...it's for gems like this.

I'm glad you keep coming back, because you are way too easy to abuse, repeatedly. Hell, even my dog used to eventually slink into the corner when he was wrong this frequently. Not you...How the iPad is already reshaping the internet

iPad flash dismissal encourages HTML5 growth

CBS chooses HTML5 over flash

Facebook videos go HTML5 -- iPad compatible

iPad already changing the way websites are built

My dog....

What was I "wrong" about?

 

[Chunky Soup]

It's Google's application. They have to build it to support the browsers, and that's the way it's been for them since the beginning. Yeah, I guess Apple could modify its browser to support a single company's specialized web applications (which doesn't make much sense), or could even develop it's own Google docs app, but it makes a whole bunch more sense for GOOGLE to develop that stuff -- which is exactly what they have done all along and will continue to do.

This issue is just a result of the iPad being the first such device out there, and it being the first month of its release. I would bet big money it's a non-issue in 3 months, particularly given the huge success of the iPad. The same way people flocked to make apps for the iPhone and make themselves iPhone compatible, companies will do the same with iPad. Heck, you can even see it already, as so many websites have already converted to HTML5 to be iPad-friendly.

You asked me a few posts back why I came in here still and I told you because I was trying to get information about Apple and their direction. I lied...it's for gems like this.

Not really surprised to see this from you. iPods have USB inputs, right? You can just connect a BB right to the iPod? And now, you think Otis stating simple facts is some sort of fanboy gem? That's great that you want to see where Apple is headed but you seem to be a little in over your head. You said earlier that you weren't one of the "haters" but this is exhibit Z saying otherwise.

 

[The Commish]

It's Google's application. They have to build it to support the browsers, and that's the way it's been for them since the beginning. Yeah, I guess Apple could modify its browser to support a single company's specialized web applications (which doesn't make much sense), or could even develop it's own Google docs app, but it makes a whole bunch more sense for GOOGLE to develop that stuff -- which is exactly what they have done all along and will continue to do.

This issue is just a result of the iPad being the first such device out there, and it being the first month of its release. I would bet big money it's a non-issue in 3 months, particularly given the huge success of the iPad. The same way people flocked to make apps for the iPhone and make themselves iPhone compatible, companies will do the same with iPad. Heck, you can even see it already, as so many websites have already converted to HTML5 to be iPad-friendly.

You asked me a few posts back why I came in here still and I told you because I was trying to get information about Apple and their direction. I lied...it's for gems like this. :(

Not really surprised to see this from you. iPods have USB inputs, right? You can just connect a BB right to the iPod? And now, you think Otis stating simple facts is some sort of fanboy gem? That's great that you want to see where Apple is headed but you seem to be a little in over your head. You said earlier that you weren't one of the "haters" but this is exhibit Z saying otherwise.

:whoosh: I am not sure what either of you are talking about .....All I know is the WWWC started the development of html5 and the regulations around it in 2004. Otis seems to think everyone was starting to use html5 because of iPad. He's wrong...html5 has been a long time coming.With that said, I think Apple's position on flash is 100% correct. and will definitely help in the promotion of html5 as a standard.

ETA: I don't think my iPod has a usb port on it though....not sure what that has to do with anything we are talking about. Nor do I think his comment is a "fanboy gem", simply an uninformed comment.

 

[Chunky Soup]

It's Google's application. They have to build it to support the browsers, and that's the way it's been for them since the beginning. Yeah, I guess Apple could modify its browser to support a single company's specialized web applications (which doesn't make much sense), or could even develop it's own Google docs app, but it makes a whole bunch more sense for GOOGLE to develop that stuff -- which is exactly what they have done all along and will continue to do.

This issue is just a result of the iPad being the first such device out there, and it being the first month of its release. I would bet big money it's a non-issue in 3 months, particularly given the huge success of the iPad. The same way people flocked to make apps for the iPhone and make themselves iPhone compatible, companies will do the same with iPad. Heck, you can even see it already, as so many websites have already converted to HTML5 to be iPad-friendly.

You asked me a few posts back why I came in here still and I told you because I was trying to get information about Apple and their direction. I lied...it's for gems like this.

Not really surprised to see this from you. iPods have USB inputs, right? You can just connect a BB right to the iPod? And now, you think Otis stating simple facts is some sort of fanboy gem? That's great that you want to see where Apple is headed but you seem to be a little in over your head. You said earlier that you weren't one of the "haters" but this is exhibit Z saying otherwise.

I am not sure what either of you are talking about .....All I know is the WWWC started the development of html5 and the regulations around it in 2004. Otis seems to think everyone was starting to use html5 because of iPad. He's wrong...html5 has been a long time coming.With that said, I think Apple's position on flash is 100% correct. and will definitely help in the promotion of html5 as a standard.

ETA: I don't think my iPod has a usb port on it though....not sure what that has to do with anything we are talking about. Nor do I think his comment is a "fanboy gem", simply an uninformed comment.

No one really thinks "everyone is using HTML5 because of iPad". You're worse than tosberg and Loki with this reading comprehension. That said, it's no coincidence that NYTimes, ESPN, Facebook, WSJ and many others have changed their websites to use HTML5 since April 3, 2010 (that magical, magical day).And yes, you said

Might be a dumb question, but is there something stopping you from plugging it directly into your blackberry? it's simple enough to set up a connection in the blackberry.

"It", I'm assuming, was the iPad. You later said that you could use the same cord that you use to sync your bb (USB).

 

[The Commish]

No one really thinks "everyone is using HTML5 because of iPad". You're worse than tosberg and Loki with this reading comprehension. That said, it's no coincidence that NYTimes, ESPN, Facebook, WSJ and many others have changed their websites to use HTML5 since April 3, 2010 (that magical, magical day).And yes, you said

Might be a dumb question, but is there something stopping you from plugging it directly into your blackberry? it's simple enough to set up a connection in the blackberry.

"It", I'm assuming, was the iPad. You later said that you could use the same cord that you use to sync your bb (USB).

If you don't believe it, why say it?? I have no reason to suspect Otis doesn't really think what he writes. He's already established his man love for all things Apple. Seems like the lhucks back peddle to me. Yes, we were talking about iPads and BB. I didn't know the iPad didn't have a usb port. However your most recent post was asking if I could plug my blackberry into my iPod.

Not really surprised to see this from you. iPods have USB inputs, right? You can just connect a BB right to the iPod?

So what exactly is your point? Seems to me that you just spew a bunch of crap into a post and then use the "you know what I mean" back peddle. Clearly, I can't read your mind, so why not just post what you mean. That's all I have to go on.FWIW...We've had html5 page in the works for a little over a year now. Just waiting on things to get finalized from a standards perspective before we roll out. It's the direction things are going with or without the iPad. Sorry if that's not something you want to hear

 

[Chunky Soup]

Sorry if that's not something you want to hear

You're really missing the point here. It's no mistake that starting 4/3/2010 many sites changed to HTML5. The iPad will get even better as more sites change their tune for it. And websites will have more traffic with more iPads going to them. Supposedly over 1m sold already. People want their sites working on the iPad. And yes, people now have more want/need for their sites to run HTML5.Regarding the USB stuff. In this thread you've said stuff about thinking you needed 3G for the iPad. You thought the iPad had a USB port. And in other threads you thought that your Blackberry could use the internet/data while you spoke on the phone. As far as I'm concerned thats 0/3. That's fine and all, but you probably shouldn't be trying to bash and lol at people in here. And definitely, since you're in this thread for investment information, try to learn a little about the products.

And you continue to jump on people making something that sounds like it might be overly fanboi. I don't really get it. FWIW, you do the same thing with people watching Rachel Maddow. You'll really live a happier life if you just accept that some people like certain things. Didn't you tell me the same thing when I made fun of your 4 year old Blackberry?

 

[The Commish]

Sorry if that's not something you want to hear

You're really missing the point here. It's no mistake that starting 4/3/2010 many sites changed to HTML5. The iPad will get even better as more sites change their tune for it. And websites will have more traffic with more iPads going to them. Supposedly over 1m sold already. People want their sites working on the iPad. And yes, people now have more want/need for their sites to run HTML5.Regarding the USB stuff. In this thread you've said stuff about thinking you needed 3G for the iPad. You thought the iPad had a USB port. And in other threads you thought that your Blackberry could use the internet/data while you spoke on the phone. As far as I'm concerned thats 0/3. That's fine and all, but you probably shouldn't be trying to bash and lol at people in here. And definitely, since you're in this thread for investment information, try to learn a little about the products.

And you continue to jump on people making something that sounds like it might be overly fanboi. I don't really get it. FWIW, you do the same thing with people watching Rachel Maddow. You'll really live a happier life if you just accept that some people like certain things. Didn't you tell me the same thing when I made fun of your 4 year old Blackberry?

Sites have been converting to html5 for 18 months now. I believe that's a bit premature given the volatility of the standard, but that's their choice. I've already said that the iPad and Apple's decision to not give into flash is a good thing and will help get sites moving to html5 who haven't already, but the movement started a long time ago. You seem to agree with me, but it's hard to tell. That we are talking about this tells me the iPad has brought the concept of html5 onto your radar. I suspect you haven't paid much attention before now. I suspect the creation of the iPad and their use of html5 is exactly what's made our paths cross. I did assume the iPad had a USB port....doesn't seem outlandish to assume something standard in 99.99999999999% of devices like the iPad have them. Why wouldn't the iPad. I was wrong...sue me I don't know why you keep coming back to my Blackberry either...I said I could field a call and look something up without hanging up on the person. I can. It puts my call on hold, I look it up, switch back to the call and I am on my way. It WILL NOT do data and voice simultaneously (like the AT&T commercials I think). Hope that puts that to rest.

My life couldn't be better. I love that people have different points of view. I love that people are allowed to have different points of view. I have no issues with the fanboys either. They make me laugh. Same with the haters. Anyone this vested in either side needs more of a life IMO. I will, however, question things that seem off to me. That's all I have done here. By Otis' post he seemed to think html5 was brand new and proliferating the internet because of iPad. That's simply inaccurate. It was so inaccurate I thought it was funny and posted such.

ETA: My only comments about Maddow are that people are foolish if they think she isn't presenting her side with a slanted view. She is, and because she is, it puts her in the same boat as the rest of the "journalists" on msnbc and fox. I don't care what people watch...just understand what you're watching. That's all I ask.

 

[Otis]

I am not sure what either of you are talking about .....All I know is the WWWC started the development of html5 and the regulations around it in 2004. Otis seems to think everyone was starting to use html5 because of iPad. He's wrong...html5 has been a long time coming.

I posted a handful of links, and you can find DOZENS of other news stories out there that say the same thing. Are you really this obtuse?

 

[Otis]

The Commish is now just as bad as the others. This is flat-out embarrassing.

 

[One]

The Commish is now just as bad as the others. This is flat-out embarrassing.

You're just figuring this out?

 

[The Commish]

I am not sure what either of you are talking about .....All I know is the WWWC started the development of html5 and the regulations around it in 2004. Otis seems to think everyone was starting to use html5 because of iPad. He's wrong...html5 has been a long time coming.

I posted a handful of links, and you can find DOZENS of other news stories out there that say the same thing. Are you really this obtuse?

I already said that iPad refusing to give into flash is great for pushing html5 forward because that's what it will do. However, generally speaking, large sites are not converting to html5 just because of Apple and the iPad. They are going that way because that's the direction the WWWC wants to go. I said before, there have been html5 pages out for 18 months or so and many more, like my company, have series of pages ready to be pushed as soon as the standards are finalized. html5 has been the direction the internet's wanted to go since the early 2000s. I didn't think this was even questionable, but I guess it depends on your knowledge level of the industry.

 

[Chunky Soup]

My life couldn't be better.

You don't have an iPad. Therefore this is not true.

 

[The Commish]

The Commish is now just as bad as the others. This is flat-out embarrassing.

You're just figuring this out?

You exposed me....I REALLY want to be cool like you guys....that's all I really want. I guess I should have listened when someone told me the internet was "Serious Business"

 

[LokiKx]

I am not sure what either of you are talking about .....All I know is the WWWC started the development of html5 and the regulations around it in 2004. Otis seems to think everyone was starting to use html5 because of iPad. He's wrong...html5 has been a long time coming.

I posted a handful of links, and you can find DOZENS of other news stories out there that say the same thing. Are you really this obtuse?

Just a little information from your articles.

We have no official statement from CBS yet although we really don’t need to be told that major content providers are going for HTML5 too. That was bound to happen sooner or later no matter if the iPad arrived or Apple did, or didn’t, appreciate Flash.

From another one of your articles with reference to Facebook

UPDATE: ReadWriteWeb noticed that Facebook hasn’t actually implemented HTML5, but it’s transcoding the videos to .MP4 thus making them compatible with the iPad:“In our tests this morning, it appears that Facebook isn’t actually using HTML5 to display the videos. Instead, what appears to be going on is that Facebook.com is detecting that you’ve arrived to the website via the Safari web browser on the iPad. When you then attempt to play a video on the iPad, it doesn’t play inline (something that would have been a clear confirmation of an HTML5 implementation). Instead, Facebook is linking out to the actual video, transcoded to MP4, a video format that plays on Apple devices.We confirmed this by uploading a video file to Facebook in WMV format (a non-iPad compatible video format) and then attempting to play it on the iPad. It played as an MP4 file.”A welcomed change anyway, and thanks to RWW for the heads up.

Youtube announced HTML5 in January.

 

[videoguy505]

iPad? Sounds like a feminine hygiene product!

 

[LokiKx]

My life couldn't be better.

You don't have an iPad. Therefore this is not true.

You have an iPad therefore you are a vampire

 

[Chunky Soup]

Sites have been converting to html5 for 18 months now. I believe that's a bit premature given the volatility of the standard, but that's their choice. I've already said that the iPad and Apple's decision to not give into flash is a good thing and will help get sites moving to html5 who haven't already, but the movement started a long time ago.

So you're really just stuck on the fact that HTML5 came out awhile ago? But you're admitting that countless sites changed over to HTML5 (almost overnight) because of the iPad? I can't speak for Otis, but I think you're proving his point. People implementing technology (whether it was already out there or not) to be compatible with the iPad. Congrats.

 

[Otis]

Sites have been converting to html5 for 18 months now. I believe that's a bit premature given the volatility of the standard, but that's their choice. I've already said that the iPad and Apple's decision to not give into flash is a good thing and will help get sites moving to html5 who haven't already, but the movement started a long time ago.

So you're really just stuck on the fact that HTML5 came out awhile ago? But you're admitting that countless sites changed over to HTML5 (almost overnight) because of the iPad? I can't speak for Otis, but I think you're proving his point. People implementing technology (whether it was already out there or not) to be compatible with the iPad. Congrats.

He's been doing this all thread long.

 

[Otis]

I am not sure what either of you are talking about .....All I know is the WWWC started the development of html5 and the regulations around it in 2004. Otis seems to think everyone was starting to use html5 because of iPad. He's wrong...html5 has been a long time coming.

I posted a handful of links, and you can find DOZENS of other news stories out there that say the same thing. Are you really this obtuse?

Just a little information from your articles.

We have no official statement from CBS yet although we really don’t need to be told that major content providers are going for HTML5 too. That was bound to happen sooner or later no matter if the iPad arrived or Apple did, or didn’t, appreciate Flash.

From another one of your articles with reference to Facebook

UPDATE: ReadWriteWeb noticed that Facebook hasn’t actually implemented HTML5, but it’s transcoding the videos to .MP4 thus making them compatible with the iPad:“In our tests this morning, it appears that Facebook isn’t actually using HTML5 to display the videos. Instead, what appears to be going on is that Facebook.com is detecting that you’ve arrived to the website via the Safari web browser on the iPad. When you then attempt to play a video on the iPad, it doesn’t play inline (something that would have been a clear confirmation of an HTML5 implementation). Instead, Facebook is linking out to the actual video, transcoded to MP4, a video format that plays on Apple devices.We confirmed this by uploading a video file to Facebook in WMV format (a non-iPad compatible video format) and then attempting to play it on the iPad. It played as an MP4 file.”A welcomed change anyway, and thanks to RWW for the heads up.

Youtube announced HTML5 in January.

My point is that lots of websites and web service providers are scrambling to launch "iPad-friendly" versions of their sites/products, based in large part on the overwhelming success of the iPad. If you're suggesting I'm wrong because Facebook makes it's site iPad friendly not through HTLM5 but through some other workaround that makes it work on the iPad, then you're agreeing with me.

 

[Otis]

The Commish is now just as bad as the others. This is flat-out embarrassing.

You're just figuring this out?

You exposed me....I REALLY want to be cool like you guys....that's all I really want. I guess I should have listened when someone told me the internet was "Serious Business"

We're not even asking you to be "cool" at this point. It's way simpler than that. We just want you to (1) read and (2) think. Get to that point and we'll be all good.

 

[Card Trader]

Seems to me the site owners are more concerned about getting HTML5 sites setup more for Android devices than Apple devices...considering Android now has overtaken iPhone OS in US marketshare.

Flash still has it's place, but HTML5 is definitely the direction video will head in on the internet.

 

[LokiKx]

My point is that lots of websites and web service providers are scrambling to launch "iPad-friendly" versions of their sites/products, based in large part on the overwhelming success of the iPad. If you're suggesting I'm wrong because Facebook makes it's site iPad friendly not through HTLM5 but through some other workaround that makes it work on the iPad, then you're agreeing with me.

The posts I came in on all focused on HTML5 as did your bashing and insulting of another poster. I simply pointed out that you did not read the articles you posted. Back step or side step it doesn't matter. I never stated an opinion and could care less about your point. You have a few people that when they are cut they bleed apple juice and they bring the thread the humor that is the fruit of life and that is why I watch this thread now.

 

[Otis]

My point is that lots of websites and web service providers are scrambling to launch "iPad-friendly" versions of their sites/products, based in large part on the overwhelming success of the iPad. If you're suggesting I'm wrong because Facebook makes it's site iPad friendly not through HTLM5 but through some other workaround that makes it work on the iPad, then you're agreeing with me.

The posts I came in on all focused on HTML5 as did your bashing and insulting of another poster. I simply pointed out that you did not read the articles you posted. Back step or side step it doesn't matter. I never stated an opinion and could care less about your point.

I read the articles, and they all support the point I made -- a point which that poster laughed at and sarcastically called a "gem." I posted a handful of links from page 1 of Google search results that directly support the point. There are dozens more. So, again, I'm not sure what point you're making, but the article quote you posted supported mine.Thanks.

 

[LokiKx]

Now this is cool

 

[LokiKx]

Droid Slate

iPants

My Thoughts

 

[Otis]

This has been a long time coming. We'll try and get weekly updates doing with this. I'm also working on a draft dominator-type app (both iPad and Android platforms).



***OFFICIAL*** Coach Otis' Annoying iPad Hater Rankings

1. The Commish (Rising)

Guy quickly worked his way to the top of the charts with his high post count and yet claimed disinterest in the iPad. Claims to come in here to watch trainwrecks, but consistently becomes the biggest trainwreck of all. He's a late-comer to the thread, and is working at half the post count of LokiKx, but has really shined in recent weeks. His finishing move is to drop by to make fun of a point someone made, get clobbered with evidence opposing his view, and then to put on a breathtaking display of flawed logic to try and avoid the inevitable. A true star in the making, and this week's lock for the top spot.

2. LokiKx (Neutral)

I'm pretty sure this guy had another username in the earlier Apple threads, then swapped over to this one after getting banned. Not as bad as the #1 seed, but guy clearly is blinded by his Apple hatred. Doesn't seem to have any interest in the iPad, but regularly pops in simply to post any negative press he can possibly find on the device. Has posted no less than 163 times in this thread, most of which are to jokes about the iPad being a big iPhone, or to post a link we've already seen 14 times (and which wasn't all that funny the first time). About as clever as your average garden gnome, but a bizarre mix of infatuation and dedication happening here, and we've got high hopes for this kid.

3. Card Trader (Falling)

Started off as a frontrunner based on his solid body of work in other Apple-related threads and his admitted affiliation with android. Claims to have had an iPad in his office for testing purposes the month before release. Has become a bit more fair and balanced in recent weeks.

4. gmbacm (Neutral)

Just outside the top ten in post count, and has, like Goggins, eased back on the throttle recently. However, based on what we saw from him at the combines, we suspect he's got a second wind, and we're expecting big things from him in coming weeks, particularly once the 3G version is released.

5. Goggins (Falling)

Guy came out of the gates strong, but has (as would most sane people) shown waning interest in recent weeks.

6. 3C's (Neutral)

Top ten in post count and top ten in Fanboi hate, but not sufficiently annoying because he doesn't seem to get involved in the substantive discussion. Known for the drive-by one-liner and then disappearing.

 

[Gordo]

Buy AAPL - Here go another million iPads to the soccer moms!

Television personality Oprah Winfrey, who in the past boosted sales of the Amazon Kindle by praising it on her program, recently declared herself a fan of Apple's iPad for an audience of millions to see.Winfrey praised the iPad, which she called "amazing," in a conversation on her show last week with tech analyst Omar Wasow. She highlighted the device's abilities as an e-reader, noting that the its touchscreen allows books to "move," and proclaimed that Apple's new hardware would "change the way kids learn."The TV host also mentioned the Kindle when talking about the iPad, noting that the Amazon Kindle application allows users to read their books on the iPad. She said that unlike the Kindle, the iPad has a backlit screen, which allows for reading in the dark, sharing photos, and playing games like Scrabble. "Gosh, those Apple folks," she said.According to The Wall Street Journal, the TV host even referred to her ownership of Amazon's e-reader in the past tense, stating she "had a Kindle." A spokesperson for Winfrey later clarified and said she uses both devices.The Journal noted that Winfrey's endorsement of the Kindle in 2008 led to a flood of orders at Amazon, which had difficulty keeping up with demand for the holiday season.Oprah's Book Club is featured on Apple's iBookstore on the iPad, where titles highlighted by the host are available for purchase. As part of the free iBooks application, the iBookstore is Apple's entrance into the e-book market, and also features the New York Times Bestsellers list.Winfrey has partnered with Apple in the past for charity. In 2006, she, along with U2 singer Bono and a number of celebrities, took part in the (Product) Red promotion for the iPod nano. Proceeds from the device, which is still sold by Apple with the latest-generation iPod nano, support the Global Fund to fight AIDS in Africa. Oprah and Bono both filmed a segment at an Apple store in Chicago, Ill., to promote the cause in 2006.