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Another big thumbsup to the Atomic Web browser!!

I just downloaded a minor update but in the notes it said that they were working on v3.0 which will include a Bookmark Bar for iPad users!!!

The best iPad browser will be complete once that happens.

I also a have gotten into the "full screen" browsing mode with the user-definable mini-navigation-buttons at the bottom of the screen, as well as the multi-touch gestures to go back a page or forward or to top or bottom of page (2finger swipe to left/right/top/bottom respectively). At least that's how I've set those gestures to work but they have tons of options to customize it.

Anyway, just thought I'd pop back in and give another plug for the Atomic Browser.

 
:PullsPantsBackUp:

Hey fellas, YouPorn is now iPad ready.

Is Nothing Sacred? Porn Comes to the iPad

Steve Jobs may want you to believe that the iPad is free from pornography, but the folks at YouPorn beg to differ.

Jonny Evans, Computerworld

Apple CEO, Steve Jobs, generated headlines this weekend with his declaration that the iPad brings you "Freedom From Porn".

The big news?

It doesn't.
This guy is a dumb ### and as usual COMPLETELY misinterprets an Apple quote. Jobs was speaking specifically about Apple's limiting of adult content ON THE APPLE APP STORE. Neither he nor Apple ever said anything about limiting what you can surf on the internet (as long as it's not Flash). You can surf all the porn you want on an iPad. You could always do this on the iPhone. These freaking hack journalists need to at least check some facts.THERE IS NO CENSORSHIP. Apple has every right to control what they sell in their store, just as every other major brick and mortar or online retailer. Target, WalMart, Best Buy... none of them sell porn. Why doesn't anyone cry CENSORSHIP over that? WalMart is the largest DVD retailer in the nation, why don't they stock hardcore? Is it censorship? What about our First Amendment rights?!? :stalker:
Read this and the exchange from Steve Jobs and Ryan Tatehttp://gawker.com/5539717/

 
:PullsPantsBackUp:

Hey fellas, YouPorn is now iPad ready.

Is Nothing Sacred? Porn Comes to the iPad

Steve Jobs may want you to believe that the iPad is free from pornography, but the folks at YouPorn beg to differ.

Jonny Evans, Computerworld

Apple CEO, Steve Jobs, generated headlines this weekend with his declaration that the iPad brings you "Freedom From Porn".

The big news?

It doesn't.
This guy is a dumb ### and as usual COMPLETELY misinterprets an Apple quote. Jobs was speaking specifically about Apple's limiting of adult content ON THE APPLE APP STORE. Neither he nor Apple ever said anything about limiting what you can surf on the internet (as long as it's not Flash). You can surf all the porn you want on an iPad. You could always do this on the iPhone. These freaking hack journalists need to at least check some facts.THERE IS NO CENSORSHIP. Apple has every right to control what they sell in their store, just as every other major brick and mortar or online retailer. Target, WalMart, Best Buy... none of them sell porn. Why doesn't anyone cry CENSORSHIP over that? WalMart is the largest DVD retailer in the nation, why don't they stock hardcore? Is it censorship? What about our First Amendment rights?!? :P
Read this and the exchange from Steve Jobs and Ryan Tatehttp://gawker.com/5539717/
I've already read it. Very cool of Jobs to keep replying, considering Tate was acting like petulant child the whole time. Seriously, what kind of "journalist" acts that way when he gets a once in a lifetime chance to talk to Steve Jobs one-on-one. Par for the course with Gawker bloggers, I suppose. Glad Jobs pwned him at the end.
 
That last line from Jobs sounds like something Otis would write: "By the way, what have you done that's so great?"

Childish

 
Another big thumbsup to the Atomic Web browser!!



I just downloaded a minor update but in the notes it said that they were working on v3.0 which will include a Bookmark Bar for iPad users!!!

The best iPad browser will be complete once that happens.

I also a have gotten into the "full screen" browsing mode with the user-definable mini-navigation-buttons at the bottom of the screen, as well as the multi-touch gestures to go back a page or forward or to top or bottom of page (2finger swipe to left/right/top/bottom respectively). At least that's how I've set those gestures to work but they have tons of options to customize it.

Anyway, just thought I'd pop back in and give another plug for the Atomic Browser.
:shock: :porked:
 
You really think Jobs was the childish one?
With that comment he definitely stooped to the doosh's level.Also, I am a bit surprised he'd say something like:
Microsoft had (has) every right to enforce whatever rules for their platform that they want. If people don't like it,they can write for another platform.....
This goes back to a comment goon made about Apple getting stabbed in the back and me commenting that they should have learned by now. While I agree with Jobs and Microsoft, the US Government didn't and won't. Again, I'd have thought he would have learned this by now....perhaps he too needs a suit filed against his company.
 
You really think Jobs was the childish one?
With that comment he definitely stooped to the doosh's level.Also, I am a bit surprised he'd say something like:

Microsoft had (has) every right to enforce whatever rules for their platform that they want. If people don't like it,

they can write for another platform.....
This goes back to a comment goon made about Apple getting stabbed in the back and me commenting that they should have learned by now. While I agree with Jobs and Microsoft, the US Government didn't and won't. Again, I'd have thought he would have learned this by now....perhaps he too needs a suit filed against his company.
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.

 
You really think Jobs was the childish one?
With that comment he definitely stooped to the doosh's level.Also, I am a bit surprised he'd say something like:

Microsoft had (has) every right to enforce whatever rules for their platform that they want. If people don't like it,

they can write for another platform.....
This goes back to a comment goon made about Apple getting stabbed in the back and me commenting that they should have learned by now. While I agree with Jobs and Microsoft, the US Government didn't and won't. Again, I'd have thought he would have learned this by now....perhaps he too needs a suit filed against his company.
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I agree with you actually. What's most interesting to me is he's apparently learned nothing from the path Bill blazed. He's doing all the same things and suffering the same criticisms that Bill did back in the day. If I were him, I wouldn't be accessible for that very reason. It didn't work for Bill. It's another reason why I'd chill on the hyperbole also. Let the products speak for themselves. Comments like "if you do it the right way (my way)" don't help him either. IMO, he's let the recent success go to his head a bit too much. Throw on top of that all the people who feel it necessary to defend him and Apple at EVERY turn and the bullseys just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I understand that he can't control all the Apple lovers, but they are definitely taking cues from him. We see it here in the FFA all the time and that's just a microcosm of the real world.
 
There's no way I can read through all of this, so I just want to ask: would it be worth buying one near xmastime?
You mean like 7 months from now? We don't have crystal balls.
Good point - how much do you like yours now? Would you purchase one again?
:lmao:you probably should read the whole thread. BTW, he started the thread.
Haven't checked - that answers my questions.
 
There's no way I can read through all of this, so I just want to ask: would it be worth buying one near xmastime?
You mean like 7 months from now? We don't have crystal balls.
Good point - how much do you like yours now? Would you purchase one again?
:lmao:you probably should read the whole thread. BTW, he started the thread.
Haven't checked - that answers my questions.
He likes it a little. I think he sleeps with it at night.
 
Throw on top of that all the people who feel it necessary to defend him and Apple at EVERY turn and the bullseys just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I understand that he can't control all the Apple lovers, but they are definitely taking cues from him. We see it here in the FFA all the time and that's just a microcosm of the real world.
OK, but this is a direct result of those that obsess about skewering him at every turn. Make no mistake, there is a reason that every single Apple thread turns into a train wreck. There is a subset of the population that is very threatened by Apple and they seek out conflict. Certain people are angered by the fact that Apple has such loyal fans and they do everything in their power to disrupt our enjoyment. I really believe that recent Apple's success is somehow humiliating to them; the little brother that they mocked and kicked throughout the desktop wars grew up bigger and more powerful. And yes, the other side is the Apple fans that have been on the receiving end of so much bullying are finally able to revel in being the big dog. So we punch back at every perceived slight. It's a perpetual motion cycle that can't be stopped.

Neither side is without blame. I don't think the "haters" will admit it, though.

 
There's no way I can read through all of this, so I just want to ask: would it be worth buying one near xmastime?
You mean like 7 months from now? We don't have crystal balls.
Good point - how much do you like yours now? Would you purchase one again?
I love it, and don't know what I'd do without it. Last night we met some friends for dinner and drinks, and I left it home for the first time in a week, and felt naked without it. I now use it almost exclusively at home -- haven't taken out the laptop since I got it, and only use the desktop sparingly, for work stuff and some major typing. But for 95% of my computer use -- web, FFA, e-mail, music, movies, etc. -- it's all iPad.I don't think many people who got one regret it.
 
There's no way I can read through all of this, so I just want to ask: would it be worth buying one near xmastime?
You mean like 7 months from now? We don't have crystal balls.
Good point - how much do you like yours now? Would you purchase one again?
Don't regret it one bit and after having one for a couple months couldn't imagine life without it. I consider it another appendage.I can't remember the last electronic device with such a high satisfaction rate from those who have used it.The #1 response from those who try it is, "ive gotta get one".
 
Otis, is your wife jealous of your iPad?
Nope, she makes fun of it due to its size. She's had every iteration of the iPhone and is on it constantly. However, even she has come to admit that it's actually a pretty cool and useful device, particularly for someone who doesn't already own an iPhone.
 
Otis, is your wife jealous of your iPad?
Nope, she makes fun of it due to its size. She's had every iteration of the iPhone and is on it constantly. However, even she has come to admit that it's actually a pretty cool and useful device, particularly for someone who doesn't already own an iPhone.
I think it is the perfect size. It will be great if it's even lighter.
Yup, I think it's about a half pound too heavy. In a few years you'll have something in this form factor that is under a pound, more storage, faster processing, and better battery life. That thing will be perfect...
 
Otis, is your wife jealous of your iPad?
Nope, she makes fun of it due to its size. She's had every iteration of the iPhone and is on it constantly. However, even she has come to admit that it's actually a pretty cool and useful device, particularly for someone who doesn't already own an iPhone.
I think it is the perfect size. It will be great if it's even lighter.
Yup, I think it's about a half pound too heavy. In a few years you'll have something in this form factor that is under a pound, more storage, faster processing, and better battery life. That thing will be perfect...
:wub: I love the touch screen and never want to go back to using a mouse.eta: storage (32g) and speed (wifi) is fine right now. 10 hrs of battery is good but now that I'm used to it I want more.
 
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Otis, is your wife jealous of your iPad?
Nope, she makes fun of it due to its size. She's had every iteration of the iPhone and is on it constantly. However, even she has come to admit that it's actually a pretty cool and useful device, particularly for someone who doesn't already own an iPhone.
I think it is the perfect size. It will be great if it's even lighter.
Yup, I think it's about a half pound too heavy. In a few years you'll have something in this form factor that is under a pound, more storage, faster processing, and better battery life. That thing will be perfect...
:X I love the touch screen and never want to go back to using a mouse.eta: storage (32g) and speed (wifi) is fine right now. 10 hrs of battery is good but now that I'm used to it I want more.
I'm on board with this. I've never had it die on me yet, but if I forget to charge it overnight and I wake up and it's at 10%, it sucks to have to bring my charger to work. Not the end of the world though. But yeah, wifi speed is fine. I notice that it's not as snappy through all apps as I would like. It wouldn't hurt to double the power (when the chips are inevitably out to do that).

And I agree that I hate using a mouse now. Touch is so much better.

 
Nope, she makes fun of it due to its size. She's had every iteration of the iPhone and is on it constantly. However, even she has come to admit that it's actually a pretty cool and useful device, particularly for someone who doesn't already own an iPhone.
I think it is the perfect size. It will be great if it's even lighter.
Yup, I think it's about a half pound too heavy. In a few years you'll have something in this form factor that is under a pound, more storage, faster processing, and better battery life. That thing will be perfect...
:X I love the touch screen and never want to go back to using a mouse.eta: storage (32g) and speed (wifi) is fine right now. 10 hr

s of battery is good but now that I'm used to it I want more.
I'm on board with this. I've never had it die on me yet, but if I forget to charge it overnight and I wake up and it's at 10%, it sucks to have to bring my charger to work. Not the end of the world though. But yeah, wifi speed is fine. I notice that it's not as snappy through all apps as I would like. It wouldn't hurt to double the power (when the chips are inevitably out to do that).

And I agree that I hate using a mouse now. Touch is so much better.
It does take a few hours to charge it up but mine always finishes overnight. I never went below 25% though.What is annoying? Having to use the down-arrow to expand the reply window when a post has too many quotes like this one. Then you push the Add Reply button, you get an error message saying too many quoted blocks and you have to use the down-arrow again to remove the extra quote. HOW DO YOU SCROLL INSIDE THE REPLY WINDOW????

 
What is annoying? Having to use the down-arrow to expand the reply window when a post has too many quotes like this one. Then you push the Add Reply button, you get an error message saying too many quoted blocks and you have to use the down-arrow again to remove the extra quote. HOW DO YOU SCROLL INSIDE THE REPLY WINDOW????
Scroll using 2 fingers.
 
Throw on top of that all the people who feel it necessary to defend him and Apple at EVERY turn and the bullseys just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I understand that he can't control all the Apple lovers, but they are definitely taking cues from him. We see it here in the FFA all the time and that's just a microcosm of the real world.
OK, but this is a direct result of those that obsess about skewering him at every turn. Make no mistake, there is a reason that every single Apple thread turns into a train wreck. There is a subset of the population that is very threatened by Apple and they seek out conflict. Certain people are angered by the fact that Apple has such loyal fans and they do everything in their power to disrupt our enjoyment. I really believe that recent Apple's success is somehow humiliating to them; the little brother that they mocked and kicked throughout the desktop wars grew up bigger and more powerful. And yes, the other side is the Apple fans that have been on the receiving end of so much bullying are finally able to revel in being the big dog. So we punch back at every perceived slight. It's a perpetual motion cycle that can't be stopped.

Neither side is without blame. I don't think the "haters" will admit it, though.
FWIW....and to be clear on the record...I have no issue with their technology and like the direction the company is going. Apple TV has the opportunity to be a true innovation. I do have an issue with their marketing group and the sensationalism they create. I know that's their job, but for some reason it bothers me. I understand that it was necessary to a point, but it's not any more. They can relax....that's the only hope I have for getting rid of the fanboy. Perhaps if they allow the product to speak for itself going forward, that nonsense that gets in the way of genuine discussion will go away.Apple's success has been great as of late. I don't understand why anyone would be threatened by it though. It's been a VERY long time coming and I am glad they have finally arrived. I'd love to see them enter the enterprise arena, but I realize the chances of that are virtually nil given their current model.

 
What is annoying? Having to use the down-arrow to expand the reply window when a post has too many quotes like this one. Then you push the Add Reply button, you get an error message saying too many quoted blocks and you have to use the down-arrow again to remove the extra quote. HOW DO YOU SCROLL INSIDE THE REPLY WINDOW????
Scroll using 2 fingers.
What do you mean two fingers?
If you touch inside the box, and they keyboard comes up, so you now are editing the text. Do a two finger swipe down or up inside the window with the text. It will scroll inside the text window.
 
What is annoying? Having to use the down-arrow to expand the reply window when a post has too many quotes like this one. Then you push the Add Reply button, you get an error message saying too many quoted blocks and you have to use the down-arrow again to remove the extra quote. HOW DO YOU SCROLL INSIDE THE REPLY WINDOW????
Scroll using 2 fingers.
What do you mean two fingers?
If you touch inside the box, and they keyboard comes up, so you now are editing the text. Do a two finger swipe down or up inside the window with the text. It will scroll inside the text window.
I don't believe i have to learn how to two-finger my iPad from Otis. :thumbup:I tried it on another post and the iPad touch screen was pretty smart. It could tell when I used two fingers versus only one. Cool.
 
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I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.

Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I can't think of any CEO in the world who is more admired and revered than Steve Jobs. Apple is currently the most popular consumer products company in the world. I a big goon fan, but playing the "Jobs is a victim" and "Apple is treated like Nazis" cards is beyond ridiculous.

 
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.

Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I can't think of any CEO in the world who is more admired and revered than Steve Jobs. Apple is currently the most popular consumer products company in the world. I a big goon fan, but playing the "Jobs is a victim" and "Apple is treated like Nazis" cards is beyond ridiculous.
Disagree. The conversation has changed. Just like politics, it's all about who controls the news cycle, and for the last year it has been Apple's opponents that have been successfully pulling the media strings. Sure, Apple has made mistakes, I don't give them a free pass. But the rhetoric from the mainstream press has been as equally vehement as anything coming from the blogosphere. Between the iPhone prototype debacle, the revised developer terms and the completely overplayed yet misunderstood "open" vs. "closed" discussion, Apple is now considered the opponent of freedom. And the press is having a field day with it all. Everyone from Fox News to The Daily Show is obsessed with knocking Apple off of their perch. They are the goons in black kicking down the doors of free speech. They are the walled-off dictatorial state. They are the stewards of censorship. The only thing America loves more than an underdog victory is destroying a favorite.
 
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.

Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I can't think of any CEO in the world who is more admired and revered than Steve Jobs. Apple is currently the most popular consumer products company in the world. I a big goon fan, but playing the "Jobs is a victim" and "Apple is treated like Nazis" cards is beyond ridiculous.
Disagree. The conversation has changed. Just like politics, it's all about who controls the news cycle, and for the last year it has been Apple's opponents that have been successfully pulling the media strings. Sure, Apple has made mistakes, I don't give them a free pass. But the rhetoric from the mainstream press has been as equally vehement as anything coming from the blogosphere. Between the iPhone prototype debacle, the revised developer terms and the completely overplayed yet misunderstood "open" vs. "closed" discussion, Apple is now considered the opponent of freedom. And the press is having a field day with it all. Everyone from Fox News to The Daily Show is obsessed with knocking Apple off of their perch. They are the goons in black kicking down the doors of free speech. They are the walled-off dictatorial state. They are the stewards of censorship. The only thing America loves more than an underdog victory is destroying a favorite.
and this is the goon I can't figure out....serious or satire here?
 
What is annoying? Having to use the down-arrow to expand the reply window when a post has too many quotes like this one. Then you push the Add Reply button, you get an error message saying too many quoted blocks and you have to use the down-arrow again to remove the extra quote. HOW DO YOU SCROLL INSIDE THE REPLY WINDOW????
Scroll using 2 fingers.
What do you mean two fingers?
If you touch inside the box, and they keyboard comes up, so you now are editing the text. Do a two finger swipe down or up inside the window with the text. It will scroll inside the text window.
I don't believe i have to learn how to two-finger my iPad from Otis. :thumbup:I tried it on another post and the iPad touch screen was pretty smart. It could tell when I used two fingers versus only one. Cool.
It can tell three fingers too. Certain apps (like atomic web browser) allow you to triple-tap to do things (in that app, it goes from fullscreen mode to the mode with bars at the top ... Super handy).
 
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.

Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I can't think of any CEO in the world who is more admired and revered than Steve Jobs. Apple is currently the most popular consumer products company in the world. I a big goon fan, but playing the "Jobs is a victim" and "Apple is treated like Nazis" cards is beyond ridiculous.
Disagree. The conversation has changed. Just like politics, it's all about who controls the news cycle, and for the last year it has been Apple's opponents that have been successfully pulling the media strings. Sure, Apple has made mistakes, I don't give them a free pass. But the rhetoric from the mainstream press has been as equally vehement as anything coming from the blogosphere. Between the iPhone prototype debacle, the revised developer terms and the completely overplayed yet misunderstood "open" vs. "closed" discussion, Apple is now considered the opponent of freedom. And the press is having a field day with it all. Everyone from Fox News to The Daily Show is obsessed with knocking Apple off of their perch. They are the goons in black kicking down the doors of free speech. They are the walled-off dictatorial state. They are the stewards of censorship. The only thing America loves more than an underdog victory is destroying a favorite.
and this is the goon I can't figure out....serious or satire here?
It's gotta be shtick.
 
NOTE: awesome thread on the macrumors site with tons of iPad tips and tricks:

Link
Some great tips in there. Thanks for that. My 2 favorites from just the first page of that thread:- swiping up on the comma/exclamation on the keyboard gives you an apostrophe (i guess it's like pushing the comma up)

- Click and hold on the .com key brings up a mini-menu with .org .edu .net etc.

Some nice tips there. Bookmarking it...

 
Downloaded the DisplayOut app tonight (jailbreak only). Outputs whatever is on screen to another video source. Works great. Coupled with Airvideo and I wirelessly streamed movies to play via ipad over the home theater system.

:unsure:

 
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.

Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I can't think of any CEO in the world who is more admired and revered than Steve Jobs. Apple is currently the most popular consumer products company in the world. I a big goon fan, but playing the "Jobs is a victim" and "Apple is treated like Nazis" cards is beyond ridiculous.
Disagree. The conversation has changed. Just like politics, it's all about who controls the news cycle, and for the last year it has been Apple's opponents that have been successfully pulling the media strings. Sure, Apple has made mistakes, I don't give them a free pass. But the rhetoric from the mainstream press has been as equally vehement as anything coming from the blogosphere. Between the iPhone prototype debacle, the revised developer terms and the completely overplayed yet misunderstood "open" vs. "closed" discussion, Apple is now considered the opponent of freedom. And the press is having a field day with it all. Everyone from Fox News to The Daily Show is obsessed with knocking Apple off of their perch. They are the goons in black kicking down the doors of free speech. They are the walled-off dictatorial state. They are the stewards of censorship. The only thing America loves more than an underdog victory is destroying a favorite.
I'm interested in how this discussion has been the least bit "misunderstood." Seems to me that it's pretty clear cut. I'm fine with Apple having a closed platform, it works for them and it works for me. But to act like there is anything misunderstood is silly.
 
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.

Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I can't think of any CEO in the world who is more admired and revered than Steve Jobs. Apple is currently the most popular consumer products company in the world. I a big goon fan, but playing the "Jobs is a victim" and "Apple is treated like Nazis" cards is beyond ridiculous.
Disagree. The conversation has changed. Just like politics, it's all about who controls the news cycle, and for the last year it has been Apple's opponents that have been successfully pulling the media strings. Sure, Apple has made mistakes, I don't give them a free pass. But the rhetoric from the mainstream press has been as equally vehement as anything coming from the blogosphere. Between the iPhone prototype debacle, the revised developer terms and the completely overplayed yet misunderstood "open" vs. "closed" discussion, Apple is now considered the opponent of freedom. And the press is having a field day with it all. Everyone from Fox News to The Daily Show is obsessed with knocking Apple off of their perch. They are the goons in black kicking down the doors of free speech. They are the walled-off dictatorial state. They are the stewards of censorship. The only thing America loves more than an underdog victory is destroying a favorite.
I'm interested in how this discussion has been the least bit "misunderstood." Seems to me that it's pretty clear cut. I'm fine with Apple having a closed platform, it works for them and it works for me. But to act like there is anything misunderstood is silly.
Not sure "misunderstood" is the right word. I was going for "misused", as in "open" no longer means what it used to mean. It has become a marketing platitude, a buzzword thrown about to cast Google as Knight in Shining Armor coming to save us all from the tyranny of Apple.
 
Take it to the other thread ladies. This is where we talk about the awesomeness that is iPad. If you don't have one then we don't like you.

 
tommyGunZ said:
The Commish said:
goonsquad said:
tommyGunZ said:
goonsquad said:
I agree Jobs stooped too low with the final comment, but I can understand his frustration. He is consistently being vilified in the press, often completely inaccurately. Seriously, Apple makes computers and gadgets and is being treated as though they are the Third Reich. That has to wear you down after a while.

Jobs is one of the very few CEO's that I have ever heard of that not only publishes his personal email but actually often responds to random questions. You have to give him a lot of credit for making himself available to the general public, even if his replies are often one word answers.

In this case, he replied to a guy that emailed with a rant about a commercial (seriously, since when don't we all take advertising with a grain of salt), who turned out to be an employee of Gawker Media, with whom Apple is entangled in a legal battle with. Tate never even properly identify himself as a journalist. After giving enough clues to his identity, Jobs continues the discussion even though Tate has no control over his anger and has thrown numerous profanities out.

So yeah, I agree that Steve shouldn't have stooped so low, but I completely understand how he may have lost himself for a moment.
I can't think of any CEO in the world who is more admired and revered than Steve Jobs. Apple is currently the most popular consumer products company in the world. I a big goon fan, but playing the "Jobs is a victim" and "Apple is treated like Nazis" cards is beyond ridiculous.
Disagree. The conversation has changed. Just like politics, it's all about who controls the news cycle, and for the last year it has been Apple's opponents that have been successfully pulling the media strings. Sure, Apple has made mistakes, I don't give them a free pass. But the rhetoric from the mainstream press has been as equally vehement as anything coming from the blogosphere. Between the iPhone prototype debacle, the revised developer terms and the completely overplayed yet misunderstood "open" vs. "closed" discussion, Apple is now considered the opponent of freedom. And the press is having a field day with it all. Everyone from Fox News to The Daily Show is obsessed with knocking Apple off of their perch. They are the goons in black kicking down the doors of free speech. They are the walled-off dictatorial state. They are the stewards of censorship. The only thing America loves more than an underdog victory is destroying a favorite.
and this is the goon I can't figure out....serious or satire here?
It's gotta be shtick.
Only he can tell us. I think I am leaning the other way though.
 

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