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For those of you in cities...

www.clear.com

for $25 bucks/month you can get an "ispot". its a hotspot that only works with ipod/ipad. $99 to purchase. 4G network.

The only thing holding me back is the portable internet. Clear is not here in AZ yet, but will be soon. They just opened service in NYC and LA.

 
I'm not going to read 61 pages of information. Is it a good value or not? Why would I/my wife need one?
Its not good value and you dont need one. It is a fun device though and if you have the money to burn go for it.
This is actually good advice (disclaimer: I have one).It's purely a convenenience/entertainment device....albeit a damn nice convenient device.My bottom line is if you already have an iPhone probably not necessary to get an iPad (it's basically just a big iPhone). But if you don't have an iPhone (like me) than it's a cool thing to have when you are sick of dealing with bulky laptops.The biggest plusses for me:- small and lightweight that I can carry around anywhere...throw it in my messenger bag for work or whip it around on my couch.- best thing for me...it's just always "on". Takes 1 second to get the thing active to check a quick email, check a quick website, make a note to myself, etc. Never have to wait for it to "power up" like most laptops.At the end of the day it's a luxury item and if you have some extra scratch for a cool electronic device that can make your life a little more efficient go for it and you won't be disappointed.
 
It's a good specific use device.

I like that it's an iPod, book reader, and internet surfing all-in-one device.

It also has the ability to get specific use apps, which is cool.

But a laptop replacement it is not.

 
I'm not going to read 61 pages of information. Is it a good value or not? Why would I/my wife need one?
Its not good value and you dont need one. It is a fun device though and if you have the money to burn go for it.
OK, what is it used for? If all you need is basic word processing and internet, is it useful? I'm not talking about gaming, just basic stuff.
It's a touch screen. If you need word processing, it's not your device.An IPad isn't a computer. At least not like a laptop, even a net book. An Ipad is a networked entertainment and media device.
 
Reality is this. I'm considering getting one for Mrs TRF. She only uses the computer for basic word processing, internet, music, and movies. ON the internet, she's a facebook fanatic. She's always doing her "factories"...whatever that is. She currently uses a regular old style computer. Would this be a fun alternative for her? It has wifi, right?

 
Reality is this. I'm considering getting one for Mrs TRF. She only uses the computer for basic word processing, internet, music, and movies. ON the internet, she's a facebook fanatic. She's always doing her "factories"...whatever that is. She currently uses a regular old style computer. Would this be a fun alternative for her? It has wifi, right?
Sounds like she's exactly the target market for an iPad.
 
Reality is this. I'm considering getting one for Mrs TRF. She only uses the computer for basic word processing, internet, music, and movies. ON the internet, she's a facebook fanatic. She's always doing her "factories"...whatever that is. She currently uses a regular old style computer. Would this be a fun alternative for her? It has wifi, right?
Sounds like she's exactly the target market for an iPad.
Agreed. It's tailor made for her and she'll love it.
 
Reality is this. I'm considering getting one for Mrs TRF. She only uses the computer for basic word processing, internet, music, and movies. ON the internet, she's a facebook fanatic. She's always doing her "factories"...whatever that is. She currently uses a regular old style computer. Would this be a fun alternative for her? It has wifi, right?
Sounds like she's exactly the target market for an iPad.
Agreed. It's tailor made for her and she'll love it.
Are there any alternatives I should investigate?
 
Are there any alternatives I should investigate?
Not in time for Christmas, if that's what you're thinking.And from the limited amounts of info I've read, most of the short-term competition that's coming out has a smaller screen and not quite as much flexibility.I'm no Apple nerd and yet I couldn't see myself getting something else.
 
Are there any alternatives I should investigate?
Not in time for Christmas, if that's what you're thinking.And from the limited amounts of info I've read, most of the short-term competition that's coming out has a smaller screen and not quite as much flexibility.I'm no Apple nerd and yet I couldn't see myself getting something else.
Looking @ Amazon right now. Any ideas of finding it cheeeeeep?>
 
reading some of the reviews. I always start w/ the negative.

I was very disappointed when I finally got my hands on this ipod touch with a big screen, a "magical device". Simply put there is nothing magical about it. I have been using a windows-based tablet since 2003, and it has more advanced technology and capability than apple's 2010 Ipad. The biggest paradox is that despite people calling this the apple ipad tablet, it's not a tablet at all, you can't take hand-written notes on it. The one thing that would have been able to define a new category of device would have simply been that. Furthermore there is:no camera,no usb ports,no easy way to organize a file system and transfer/copy,no easy way to print your files, no interaction with office productivity software (Office),the on-screen keyboard is not practical,the screen resolution is 4:3 so you see movies with huge black bars,there is no HDMI out so you can't connect it to your new LCD,no card readers for your photos,no flash support for websites (rendering 50% of the web useless),there are wifi issues (connections dropped),the screen is glossy so you can't read on it outdoors,no multitasking supportridiculously low storage space (even netbooks have over 200gb now)it's very fragile and slippery in your hands (one drop could kill the screen)it will set you back $600 (the price of a full-featured laptop)I could go on for a while but I'll just stop here. What is frustrating is that Apple obviously has the technology to include these things easily, so it was purely a short-term business decision on their end. For the moment, they are blatantly exploiting certain consumers' willingness-to-pay for the ipad. They are taking advantage of their brand recognition and marketing power to extract revenues from a purposely made sub-par product. The only way to stop this type of behavior is to either stop buying bad products (sounds easy but people aren't always rational), or wait until competition kicks in over the next six months. I hope this business plan doesn't come back to bite them in the end, in my opinion they are definitely playing with fire on this one.On the plus side because of these omissions, it's simple (a grandma could use it), it's fast (but this is because it doesn't run a real operating system) it has ok battery (9 hours) and it's thin (although not light, you will get tired of holding it after 5 minutes).In one sentence: You're paying $600-1000 for a semi-portable web-browser which gives you access to about 30% of the web.Hope that helps you make up your own mind, I returned mine after 48 hours.
 
reading some of the reviews. I always start w/ the negative.

I was very disappointed when I finally got my hands on this ipod touch with a big screen, a "magical device". Simply put there is nothing magical about it. I have been using a windows-based tablet since 2003, and it has more advanced technology and capability than apple's 2010 Ipad. The biggest paradox is that despite people calling this the apple ipad tablet, it's not a tablet at all, you can't take hand-written notes on it. The one thing that would have been able to define a new category of device would have simply been that. Furthermore there is:no camera,no usb ports,no easy way to organize a file system and transfer/copy,no easy way to print your files, no interaction with office productivity software (Office),the on-screen keyboard is not practical,the screen resolution is 4:3 so you see movies with huge black bars,there is no HDMI out so you can't connect it to your new LCD,no card readers for your photos,no flash support for websites (rendering 50% of the web useless),there are wifi issues (connections dropped),the screen is glossy so you can't read on it outdoors,no multitasking supportridiculously low storage space (even netbooks have over 200gb now)it's very fragile and slippery in your hands (one drop could kill the screen)it will set you back $600 (the price of a full-featured laptop)I could go on for a while but I'll just stop here. What is frustrating is that Apple obviously has the technology to include these things easily, so it was purely a short-term business decision on their end. For the moment, they are blatantly exploiting certain consumers' willingness-to-pay for the ipad. They are taking advantage of their brand recognition and marketing power to extract revenues from a purposely made sub-par product. The only way to stop this type of behavior is to either stop buying bad products (sounds easy but people aren't always rational), or wait until competition kicks in over the next six months. I hope this business plan doesn't come back to bite them in the end, in my opinion they are definitely playing with fire on this one.On the plus side because of these omissions, it's simple (a grandma could use it), it's fast (but this is because it doesn't run a real operating system) it has ok battery (9 hours) and it's thin (although not light, you will get tired of holding it after 5 minutes).In one sentence: You're paying $600-1000 for a semi-portable web-browser which gives you access to about 30% of the web.Hope that helps you make up your own mind, I returned mine after 48 hours.
My biggest issue is the not supporting flash. Has this been resolved?
 
reading some of the reviews. I always start w/ the negative.

I was very disappointed when I finally got my hands on this ipod touch with a big screen, a "magical device". Simply put there is nothing magical about it. I have been using a windows-based tablet since 2003, and it has more advanced technology and capability than apple's 2010 Ipad. The biggest paradox is that despite people calling this the apple ipad tablet, it's not a tablet at all, you can't take hand-written notes on it. The one thing that would have been able to define a new category of device would have simply been that. Furthermore there is:In one sentence: You're paying $600-1000 for a semi-portable web-browser which gives you access to about 30% of the web.Hope that helps you make up your own mind, I returned mine after 48 hours.
This person is a) exaggerating the cost and b) clearly bought the wrong product for his needs.It's like buying a Prius and then complaining that you can't go from 0-60 in 3.2 seconds.
 
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reading some of the reviews. I always start w/ the negative.

I was very disappointed when I finally got my hands on this ipod touch with a big screen, a "magical device". Simply put there is nothing magical about it. I have been using a windows-based tablet since 2003, and it has more advanced technology and capability than apple's 2010 Ipad. The biggest paradox is that despite people calling this the apple ipad tablet, it's not a tablet at all, you can't take hand-written notes on it. The one thing that would have been able to define a new category of device would have simply been that. Furthermore there is:In one sentence: You're paying $600-1000 for a semi-portable web-browser which gives you access to about 30% of the web.Hope that helps you make up your own mind, I returned mine after 48 hours.
This person is a) exaggerating the cost and b) clearly bought the wrong product for his needs.It's like buying a Prius and then complaining that you can't go from 0-60 in 3.2 seconds.
:no:I'm obviously working on my desk computer, but mu iPad is always with me for music, Twitter, quick e-mail access, etc. It's much better than my computer for that, and it's great to take to meetings for RDP, etc.
 
reading some of the reviews. I always start w/ the negative.

I was very disappointed when I finally got my hands on this ipod touch with a big screen, a "magical device". Simply put there is nothing magical about it. I have been using a windows-based tablet since 2003, and it has more advanced technology and capability than apple's 2010 Ipad. The biggest paradox is that despite people calling this the apple ipad tablet, it's not a tablet at all, you can't take hand-written notes on it. The one thing that would have been able to define a new category of device would have simply been that. Furthermore there is:no camera,no usb ports,no easy way to organize a file system and transfer/copy,no easy way to print your files, no interaction with office productivity software (Office),the on-screen keyboard is not practical,the screen resolution is 4:3 so you see movies with huge black bars,there is no HDMI out so you can't connect it to your new LCD,no card readers for your photos,no flash support for websites (rendering 50% of the web useless),there are wifi issues (connections dropped),the screen is glossy so you can't read on it outdoors,no multitasking supportridiculously low storage space (even netbooks have over 200gb now)it's very fragile and slippery in your hands (one drop could kill the screen)it will set you back $600 (the price of a full-featured laptop)I could go on for a while but I'll just stop here. What is frustrating is that Apple obviously has the technology to include these things easily, so it was purely a short-term business decision on their end. For the moment, they are blatantly exploiting certain consumers' willingness-to-pay for the ipad. They are taking advantage of their brand recognition and marketing power to extract revenues from a purposely made sub-par product. The only way to stop this type of behavior is to either stop buying bad products (sounds easy but people aren't always rational), or wait until competition kicks in over the next six months. I hope this business plan doesn't come back to bite them in the end, in my opinion they are definitely playing with fire on this one.On the plus side because of these omissions, it's simple (a grandma could use it), it's fast (but this is because it doesn't run a real operating system) it has ok battery (9 hours) and it's thin (although not light, you will get tired of holding it after 5 minutes).In one sentence: You're paying $600-1000 for a semi-portable web-browser which gives you access to about 30% of the web.Hope that helps you make up your own mind, I returned mine after 48 hours.
My biggest issue is the not supporting flash. Has this been resolved?
No, and it won't be.Quite a few web pages are migrating away from Flash. I can't think of anything mainstream I can't do. Granted, ADTHE, etc. don't work.
 
My biggest issue is the not supporting flash. Has this been resolved?
Nope. And it won't be. Apple doesn't like Flash. It hardly affect "50% of the web."Some other of those complaints have been addressed by software or will be addressed in the upcoming OS update.For instance, there are apps for taking handwritten notes (and there are nice IPad styluses to use for that).There isn't a non-clunky cable to video option, but the new OS will integrate Air Play. Air Play compliant speakers and home entertainment systems will stream the video to the TV.Folders and multitasking are in the new update. As is wireless printing.
 
My biggest issue is the not supporting flash. Has this been resolved?
Nope. And it won't be. Apple doesn't like Flash. It hardly affect "50% of the web."Some other of those complaints have been addressed by software or will be addressed in the upcoming OS update.For instance, there are apps for taking handwritten notes (and there are nice IPad styluses to use for that).There isn't a non-clunky cable to video option, but the new OS will integrate Air Play. Air Play compliant speakers and home entertainment systems will stream the video to the TV.Folders and multitasking are in the new update. As is wireless printing.
See, that's the stuff I'm looking for. Thanks for the help.
 
What about the Skyfire Browser? They don't have one for the iPad yet, but it exists for the iPhone and it will play Flash video.
Another issue with Flash, as I am sure it has been mentioned, is the battery drain. One of the pluses, from reading, is the battery life on the iPad. You can go many hours without charging. Flash kills battery, and Apple adament that there are other, better ways of doing things than with Flash. I agree, but until more people get on board, you will have a nuisance.My brother has one and loves it. He's an i-banker, and uses this thing to the max, and rarely uses his laptop anymore for anything other than work. He can even look over deals and files with this thing and send it back to partners with notes. I'm just not sure if it's for me and I don't want to be spurned with a Rev2 in 3 - 4 months.

 
Any new must-have apps that we haven't discussed yet? Magic Fiddle is kind of like Guitar Hero on ludes. Worth checking out.

 
What about the Skyfire Browser? They don't have one for the iPad yet, but it exists for the iPhone and it will play Flash video.
Another issue with Flash, as I am sure it has been mentioned, is the battery drain. One of the pluses, from reading, is the battery life on the iPad. You can go many hours without charging. Flash kills battery, and Apple adament that there are other, better ways of doing things than with Flash. I agree, but until more people get on board, you will have a nuisance.My brother has one and loves it. He's an i-banker, and uses this thing to the max, and rarely uses his laptop anymore for anything other than work. He can even look over deals and files with this thing and send it back to partners with notes. I'm just not sure if it's for me and I don't want to be spurned with a Rev2 in 3 - 4 months.
This will give you the ability to view a video in Flash when you need to. Nice to have that option. And it goes against what people have been saying that Flash is not alowed on the iPhone/iPads.
 
What about the Skyfire Browser? They don't have one for the iPad yet, but it exists for the iPhone and it will play Flash video.
Another issue with Flash, as I am sure it has been mentioned, is the battery drain. One of the pluses, from reading, is the battery life on the iPad. You can go many hours without charging. Flash kills battery, and Apple adament that there are other, better ways of doing things than with Flash. I agree, but until more people get on board, you will have a nuisance.My brother has one and loves it. He's an i-banker, and uses this thing to the max, and rarely uses his laptop anymore for anything other than work. He can even look over deals and files with this thing and send it back to partners with notes. I'm just not sure if it's for me and I don't want to be spurned with a Rev2 in 3 - 4 months.
This will give you the ability to view a video in Flash when you need to. Nice to have that option. And it goes against what people have been saying that Flash is not alowed on the iPhone/iPads.
Much appreciated, thanks :thumbup:
 
What about the Skyfire Browser? They don't have one for the iPad yet, but it exists for the iPhone and it will play Flash video.
Another issue with Flash, as I am sure it has been mentioned, is the battery drain. One of the pluses, from reading, is the battery life on the iPad. You can go many hours without charging. Flash kills battery, and Apple adament that there are other, better ways of doing things than with Flash. I agree, but until more people get on board, you will have a nuisance.My brother has one and loves it. He's an i-banker, and uses this thing to the max, and rarely uses his laptop anymore for anything other than work. He can even look over deals and files with this thing and send it back to partners with notes. I'm just not sure if it's for me and I don't want to be spurned with a Rev2 in 3 - 4 months.
What is he using to look at Excel files? Will Numbers work?
 
What about the Skyfire Browser? They don't have one for the iPad yet, but it exists for the iPhone and it will play Flash video.
Another issue with Flash, as I am sure it has been mentioned, is the battery drain. One of the pluses, from reading, is the battery life on the iPad. You can go many hours without charging. Flash kills battery, and Apple adament that there are other, better ways of doing things than with Flash. I agree, but until more people get on board, you will have a nuisance.My brother has one and loves it. He's an i-banker, and uses this thing to the max, and rarely uses his laptop anymore for anything other than work. He can even look over deals and files with this thing and send it back to partners with notes. I'm just not sure if it's for me and I don't want to be spurned with a Rev2 in 3 - 4 months.
What is he using to look at Excel files? Will Numbers work?
Honestly, I don't know. I'll ask and find out. He was all excited about some application he bought that could mark up a pdf with a stylus, though. :angry:
 
can someone fill me in on whether one should get the 15 or 25 dollar 3g subscription? Assume regular home access to wifi. TIA

 
I played with a Galaxy Tab last night at the TMo store and was VERY impressed. They have clearly pulled some things from the iPad and I thought the size was actually pretty good (I had worried about it being too small). I think that the GTab is actually a quality enough device that those not interested in APple products have a nice alternative. Except that the pricing is all screwed up - $600 without contract (more then the cheapest iPad) and if you buy it on contract, the data charges are really high compared to Apple's offerings. I would have bought one last night if it was $500 and had a $15/month data option.

I would encourage even iPad users/fans to take a look, if only to see what other devices are coming to market and what similarities they have.

 
I played with a Galaxy Tab last night at the TMo store and was VERY impressed. They have clearly pulled some things from the iPad and I thought the size was actually pretty good (I had worried about it being too small). I think that the GTab is actually a quality enough device that those not interested in APple products have a nice alternative. Except that the pricing is all screwed up - $600 without contract (more then the cheapest iPad) and if you buy it on contract, the data charges are really high compared to Apple's offerings. I would have bought one last night if it was $500 and had a $15/month data option. I would encourage even iPad users/fans to take a look, if only to see what other devices are coming to market and what similarities they have.
Wow. Never thought I'd see the day where Apple was the low cost alternative :hifive:
 
I played with a Galaxy Tab last night at the TMo store and was VERY impressed. They have clearly pulled some things from the iPad and I thought the size was actually pretty good (I had worried about it being too small). I think that the GTab is actually a quality enough device that those not interested in APple products have a nice alternative. Except that the pricing is all screwed up - $600 without contract (more then the cheapest iPad) and if you buy it on contract, the data charges are really high compared to Apple's offerings. I would have bought one last night if it was $500 and had a $15/month data option.

I would encourage even iPad users/fans to take a look, if only to see what other devices are coming to market and what similarities they have.
Wow. Never thought I'd see the day where Apple was the low cost alternative :shock:
Here's a great article from a few weeks ago about how Apple was actually (and unexpectedly) very aggressive in their pricing of the iPad and how their competitors will struggle to undercut them for market share.
Apple iPad's rivals can't hang on pricing

By Larry Dignan | November 2, 2010, 3:04am PDT

Summary

The alleged iPad killing tablets are coming, but with price tags that aren’t going to even come close to denting Apple’s lead.

The alleged iPad killing tablets are coming, but with price tags that aren’t going to even come close to denting Apple’s lead. When Apple CEO Steve Jobs launched the iPad it wasn’t clear how aggressively these newfangled devices were priced. Now we know because Android tablets and other rival tablets can’t hang on pricing.

In recent days, tablet pricing details have emerged. To wit:

Samsung’s 7-inch Galaxy Tab will run you $499 for a Wi-Fi version (top right). That price matches Apple’s iPad pricing and Samsung is packing in some key hardware features. But Samsung isn’t likely to move the needle on thwarting Apple.

ViewSonic announced its ViewPad Android devices (bottom right). The ViewPad 7-inch version will run you $479. The 10-inch version will run you $629. Both versions are Wi-Fi with no 3G.

The HP Slate 500 has Windows 7 will cost you $799. Even though the HP Slate is geared for business use, there were plenty of chief information officers with iPads at the Gartner powwow last month.

Will Research in Motion’s pricing on the PlayBook even be in the ballpark? We don’t know yet, but it’s unlikely.

These prices illustrate how aggressive Jobs was at the iPad launch. Apple had the device and the pricing to arguably grab at least an 18-month lead.

So what happened?

Apple built its own chips to take on an industry that clearly wasn’t ready for the iPad’s launch. It will take the Android ecosystem another rev on the product cycle just to approach what Apple has today.

The players taking on Apple all have some sort of restriction. Apple has its own components, software and design specs. Apple also doesn’t give a hoot where it gets its parts. Now contrast that with rivals. Samsung as a massive tech conglomerate has a few built in advantages, but it’s Korea’s champion. The company is not going to go to China for parts.

The software ecosystem isn’t ready. Microsoft is cramming Windows 7 into a tablet. HP has the webOS waiting in the wings. Android isn’t quite tablet ready yet. Apple had the ecosystem and operating system. Apple just had to add a 10-inch screen.

A few weeks ago, it appeared that Jobs was just ranting about Android on the company’s earnings conference call. But one thing he had right in that well-documented rant was the pricing model as iPad mote.

“Our potential competitors are having a tough time coming close to iPad’s pricing even with their far smaller, far less expensive screens. The iPad incorporates everything we’ve learned about building high value products from iPhones, iPods and Macs. We create our own A4 chip, our own software, our own battery chemistry, our own enclosure, our own everything, and this results in an incredible product at a great price. The proof of this will be in the pricing of our competitors’ products which will likely offer less for more.”

Indeed, that less for more strategy is exactly what Apple’s rivals are pursuing. Perhaps, the iPad killers will emerge, but no one seems to be able to go toe-to-toe. As a result, you’ll have downmarket devices—Cherrypal’s CherryPad and Barnes & Noble’s Nook Color quasi-tablet—and premium plays that can’t threaten Apple’s pricing.

Add it up and the iPad will enjoy at least another 6 months of market domination—most likely more.
 
I played with a Galaxy Tab last night at the TMo store and was VERY impressed. They have clearly pulled some things from the iPad and I thought the size was actually pretty good (I had worried about it being too small). I think that the GTab is actually a quality enough device that those not interested in APple products have a nice alternative. Except that the pricing is all screwed up - $600 without contract (more then the cheapest iPad) and if you buy it on contract, the data charges are really high compared to Apple's offerings. I would have bought one last night if it was $500 and had a $15/month data option. I would encourage even iPad users/fans to take a look, if only to see what other devices are coming to market and what similarities they have.
Wow. Never thought I'd see the day where Apple was the low cost alternative :lmao:
Exactly, although it makes some sense. Aside from the material (like the processor) being less expensive, Apple has a significant advantage in knowing exactly how much "average" spend each iPad buyer is likely to put in to the apple ecosystem. They can price the iPad at near zero (or even negative) margin if they watn.
 
Borrowed my brother's iPad for a week. LOVE IT. Never thought it would work this well for what I do.

I'd like to buy one soon, but does anyone know if/when a new model is expected?

 
I have not read the whole thread so apologies if these simple questions have been answered

1) Are Ipads price fixed every where?

2) I own a Ipod Touch. How would I manage the two devices via a single computer? Would every app I have on the IPOD hsave to be on the IPAD, and vice vera? Can't quite figure out how syncs work.

 
I have not read the whole thread so apologies if these simple questions have been answered1) Are Ipads price fixed every where?2) I own a Ipod Touch. How would I manage the two devices via a single computer? Would every app I have on the IPOD hsave to be on the IPAD, and vice vera? Can't quite figure out how syncs work.
Yes, the price is the same. I think Costco will have them for about $8 off, but it's pretty much the same across the board.
 
I own a Ipod Touch. How would I manage the two devices via a single computer? Would every app I have on the IPOD hsave to be on the IPAD, and vice vera? Can't quite figure out how syncs work.
You chose what does/doesn't go onto the device from iTunes. The devices don't have to be the same.
 

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