is Colston 'back'? Is he a #1 WR? (1 Viewer)

[Black]

Colston had one great PPR day (7 for 124 week 10) since coming back from injury. He has a pretty good Fantasy playoff schedule: ATL @CHI @DET ....

What is going on with him? Is Brees just spreading it out alot more? Using Moore? Anyone following the NO games have any info?

 

[blackjack23]

I look forward to his 1st TD of the year.

Bottom line, Brees spreads it around alot. Next week it could be Colston with 100 yds and 2 TDs and Moore doing nothing.

 

[sparkky]

I agree Brees just spreads it around.

 

[blackjack23]

Also, its hard to bench him knowing how much Brees passes the ball. Just gotta hope you can survive his bad games. Just check last year. He was horrible in the first half. He hasnt played in many games this year.

 

[Chaka]

In two games with Colston back Moore has 14 catches, 178 yards and 2 TDs. The Saints do not run the ball, Brees throws the ball 40 times a game. Brees spreads it around but it looks like Colston and Moore are 1a & 1b in a potent passing offense. I think they are both must starts every week.

 

[chihawk]

In two games with Colston back Moore has 14 catches, 178 yards and 2 TDs. The Saints do not run the ball, Brees throws the ball 40 times a game. Brees spreads it around but it looks like Colston and Moore are 1a & 1b in a potent passing offense. I think they are both must starts every week.

Don't forget that Bush should be back very soon. That will increase their running plays some and add yet another target for Brees passes. I really thought Colston was going to keep up a high level of production after last week's game. I'm guessing his production will bounce up and down a little for the rest of the year....I'm sure there is going to be at least one or two monster games for him in there.

 

[Tat]

Colston was targeted in the end zone once, and had Brees thrown it higher, Colston would have had a TD and about an extra 15-20 yards

 

[thehornet]

In two games with Colston back Moore has 14 catches, 178 yards and 2 TDs. The Saints do not run the ball, Brees throws the ball 40 times a game. Brees spreads it around but it looks like Colston and Moore are 1a & 1b in a potent passing offense. I think they are both must starts every week.

Don't forget that Bush should be back very soon. That will increase their running plays some and add yet another target for Brees passes. I really thought Colston was going to keep up a high level of production after last week's game. I'm guessing his production will bounce up and down a little for the rest of the year....I'm sure there is going to be at least one or two monster games for him in there.

My same worry. Bush chews up so much of the short stuff that belongs to Moore!!

 

[Lobary]

I can't believe I'm actually considering benching Marques f'n Colson for Ted Ginn.

It's win or else time, and I can't afford another stinker game.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I can't believe I'm actually considering benching Marques f'n Colson for Ted Ginn.It's win or else time, and I can't afford another stinker game.

I'm thinking about benching him as well. Not sure yet. He's starting to aggrevate me too.

 

[chrisconti21]

Colston is a great buy low for the fantasy playoffs. When Reggie comes back him and moore will be splitting the short yardage check down and underneath routes. Reggies presence in the middle and off the edge should soften up any safety coverage on Colston. The guy is a 6'4 beast and a big redzone target, hes much more of a mismatch for any CB than midget Lance Moore. I just traded for him as my #3 wide out and got him on the cheap - when Breese goes off at home in the dome for 400 yards week 1 of the playoffs, have both of those guys in your lineup.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Colston owners should see him as a solid WR3 for the rest of this year and hope for a healthy year next year and a return to WR1 at that time. It would be silly to put your playoff hopes on this guy as anything more imo mainly because most fantasy playoffs are single elimination and Colston's stats will be anything but consistent. If you can trade up to anyone ANYONE more consistent, albeit less of a homerun hitter, I'd take that in a heartbeat.Now some ranting,

Colston is a great buy low for the fantasy playoffs.

I don't understand why people keep saying this. They are not game planning for him. They are game planning for whatever receiver is open that day. How many teams are going to put their safeties on Lance Moore regardless of how many 100 yard games he has? None. Colston looked like a superstar as the second guy on that lineup, but as the primary guy the jury is still out. Look at Lee Evans, same story a different city. Bad year after Moulds leaves, then has a super year, then nothing again since until this year, which looks ok so far. But no way do I see Colston's numbers being top 10 variety anytime soon, especially for the remainder of this season. They found what works, unfortunately it isn't him.

 

[blackjack23]

Colston owners should see him as a solid WR3 for the rest of this year and hope for a healthy year next year and a return to WR1 at that time. It would be silly to put your playoff hopes on this guy as anything more imo mainly because most fantasy playoffs are single elimination and Colston's stats will be anything but consistent. If you can trade up to anyone ANYONE more consistent, albeit less of a homerun hitter, I'd take that in a heartbeat.

Now some ranting,

Colston is a great buy low for the fantasy playoffs.

I don't understand why people keep saying this. They are not game planning for him. They are game planning for whatever receiver is open that day. How many teams are going to put their safeties on Lance Moore regardless of how many 100 yard games he has? None. Colston looked like a superstar as the second guy on that lineup, but as the primary guy the jury is still out. Look at Lee Evans, same story a different city. Bad year after Moulds leaves, then has a super year, then nothing again since until this year, which looks ok so far. But no way do I see Colston's numbers being top 10 variety anytime soon, especially for the remainder of this season. They found what works, unfortunately it isn't him.

Umm who was the first guy?

 

[MCguidance]

Colston owners should see him as a solid WR3 for the rest of this year and hope for a healthy year next year and a return to WR1 at that time. It would be silly to put your playoff hopes on this guy as anything more imo mainly because most fantasy playoffs are single elimination and Colston's stats will be anything but consistent. If you can trade up to anyone ANYONE more consistent, albeit less of a homerun hitter, I'd take that in a heartbeat.

Now some ranting,

Colston is a great buy low for the fantasy playoffs.

I don't understand why people keep saying this. They are not game planning for him. They are game planning for whatever receiver is open that day. How many teams are going to put their safeties on Lance Moore regardless of how many 100 yard games he has? None. Colston looked like a superstar as the second guy on that lineup, but as the primary guy the jury is still out. Look at Lee Evans, same story a different city. Bad year after Moulds leaves, then has a super year, then nothing again since until this year, which looks ok so far. But no way do I see Colston's numbers being top 10 variety anytime soon, especially for the remainder of this season. They found what works, unfortunately it isn't him.

Umm who was the first guy?

This is what I was wondering, too. Maybe I am missing someone? This is his 3rd year, and his stats before this year:2006 - 70/1038/8

2007 - 98/1202/11

Next closest guy in those years:

2006 - Joe Horn 37/679/4; Bush had 88/742/2 out of the backfield

2007 - David Patten 54/792/4; Bush had 73/417/2 out of the backfield

 

[zoonation]

Colston owners should see him as a solid WR3 for the rest of this year and hope for a healthy year next year and a return to WR1 at that time. It would be silly to put your playoff hopes on this guy as anything more imo mainly because most fantasy playoffs are single elimination and Colston's stats will be anything but consistent. If you can trade up to anyone ANYONE more consistent, albeit less of a homerun hitter, I'd take that in a heartbeat.Now some ranting,

Colston is a great buy low for the fantasy playoffs.

I don't understand why people keep saying this. They are not game planning for him. They are game planning for whatever receiver is open that day. How many teams are going to put their safeties on Lance Moore regardless of how many 100 yard games he has? None. Colston looked like a superstar as the second guy on that lineup, but as the primary guy the jury is still out. Look at Lee Evans, same story a different city. Bad year after Moulds leaves, then has a super year, then nothing again since until this year, which looks ok so far. But no way do I see Colston's numbers being top 10 variety anytime soon, especially for the remainder of this season. They found what works, unfortunately it isn't him.

FAIL.The guy is a beast and will be the number 1 receiving option down the stretch. They aren't going to abandon their best receiving talent.

 

[millertyme1]

I think Bush is the #1 WR there when healthy. I love what Lance Moore is doing & he's not going away anytime soon either.

I still think Bush/Moore/Colston/and even Shockey are must starts every week (12 team league) based on Brees.

 

[Hue G]

Showing up on the injury report as questionable again

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

For me, the issue is not that Colston has been relatively quiet in the last couple weeks, the issue is:

Green Bay's pass defense looks GREAT to me this year. They are clearly the best TANDEM of CBs in pass coverage in the league.

I strongly suspect another pedestrian Colson performance.

I must start 3 of Colston, Curtis, Muhammed, Walker, Gage, Berrian, Washington.

I think I like Curtis, Gage, and Walker or Muhammed to start versus Colston.

Wish I knew when Santonio Holmes' suspension starts...Nate would be a nice starter in place of Holmes.

 

[kerpow]

Its interesting...I have Moore in one league and Colston in another. I can honestly say that on a week to week basis I'm much more confident about Moore putting up decent numbers than Colston.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Umm who was the first guy?

Joe Horn

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Wow, lots of Colston fans. Okay, let me add some more.Joe Horn was the #1 receiver on that team and was a productive receiver in the league when Colston came in. Colston outproduced him immediately in his rookie year, absolutely, those are not stats that I am disputing. My point on that was that it is easier to produce when the corners and safeties are watching someone else.Also, I am not disputing his talent. But his stats are far too inconsistent to count on him to put two - three weeks together as a #1, which is what you need to win a fantasy playoffs. I was hurt quite a bit last year due to his inconsistency and been hurt quite a bit so far this year thanks to his injury and inconsistency since his return. I'm sure we can attribute most of this to his injury still, but fantasy playoffs start in two weeks so to me he's not a buy candidate as of now except as a keeper.editing to add that:

Its interesting...I have Moore in one league and Colston in another. I can honestly say that on a week to week basis I'm much more confident about Moore putting up decent numbers than Colston.

is right on imo for the rest of this year. Brees has become more than comfortable with that guy.

 

[Sylira21]

Umm...I don't understand at least part of this. The story goes like this?

Colston was better when Horn was there to take pressure off of him in 2006.

In 2007 he didn't have a complimentary receiver last year but posted almost 100 catches, 1200 yards, and 11 TDs.

In 2008 Moore has gotten more work - why isn't this the complimentary receiver that would make Colston "better" again?

I also don't understand the part about him being inconsistent last year - he scored a TD or got 100 yards or both in 10 out of 16 games. That's elite in my book - Reggie Wayne had 10 similar games, and Larry Fitzgerald had 8. The only one I can think of that did better was of course Randy Moss, who had 13 games like that.

Not sure what more you could expect in a WR for consistency.

 

[MCguidance]

Umm...I don't understand at least part of this. The story goes like this?Colston was better when Horn was there to take pressure off of him in 2006.In 2007 he didn't have a complimentary receiver last year but posted almost 100 catches, 1200 yards, and 11 TDs. In 2008 Moore has gotten more work - why isn't this the complimentary receiver that would make Colston "better" again?I also don't understand the part about him being inconsistent last year - he scored a TD or got 100 yards or both in 10 out of 16 games. That's elite in my book - Reggie Wayne had 10 similar games, and Larry Fitzgerald had 8. The only one I can think of that did better was of course Randy Moss, who had 13 games like that.Not sure what more you could expect in a WR for consistency.

Good posting. I do not expect true WR1 numbers down the stretch, but I am in a better position than most in terms of WR depth. That being said, Joe Horn did not make him a better receiver, especially when Horn's stats in 2005 were pretty terrible (49/656/1). If Horn's numbers were even good in that year your argument would have some merit. But Horn's last good year was in 2004, so no one was game planning to cover Horn after Colston started like this in 2006:1 @CLE W 19-14 4 49 12.3 20 1 2 @GNB W 34-27 4 58 14.5 35 1 3 ATL W 23-3 7 97 13.9 29 0 4 @CAR L 21-18 5 132 26.4 86 1

 

[blackjack23]

Umm who was the first guy?

Joe Horn

Wow, lots of Colston fans. Okay, let me add some more.Joe Horn was the #1 receiver on that team and was a productive receiver in the league when Colston came in. Colston outproduced him immediately in his rookie year, absolutely, those are not stats that I am disputing. My point on that was that it is easier to produce when the corners and safeties are watching someone else.Also, I am not disputing his talent. But his stats are far too inconsistent to count on him to put two - three weeks together as a #1, which is what you need to win a fantasy playoffs. I was hurt quite a bit last year due to his inconsistency and been hurt quite a bit so far this year thanks to his injury and inconsistency since his return. I'm sure we can attribute most of this to his injury still, but fantasy playoffs start in two weeks so to me he's not a buy candidate as of now except as a keeper.editing to add that:

Its interesting...I have Moore in one league and Colston in another. I can honestly say that on a week to week basis I'm much more confident about Moore putting up decent numbers than Colston.

is right on imo for the rest of this year. Brees has become more than comfortable with that guy.

Jesus

 

[blackjack23]

Umm...I don't understand at least part of this. The story goes like this?Colston was better when Horn was there to take pressure off of him in 2006.In 2007 he didn't have a complimentary receiver last year but posted almost 100 catches, 1200 yards, and 11 TDs. In 2008 Moore has gotten more work - why isn't this the complimentary receiver that would make Colston "better" again?I also don't understand the part about him being inconsistent last year - he scored a TD or got 100 yards or both in 10 out of 16 games. That's elite in my book - Reggie Wayne had 10 similar games, and Larry Fitzgerald had 8. The only one I can think of that did better was of course Randy Moss, who had 13 games like that.Not sure what more you could expect in a WR for consistency.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Okay, I admit I'm being the glass is half empty guy and reaching for reasons. I do own this guy and have owned him since his rookie year and plan on keeping him as long as I can. It seems I may have way too high of an expectation from a WR1. I always felt like I keep a bunch of WR2 types around and really no elite players, which is the pool I put this guy in.

I also don't understand the part about him being inconsistent last year - he scored a TD or got 100 yards or both in 10 out of 16 games.

I made that statement because one of those 10 games he had 2 yards and 1 td and:Last year:Weeks 1 - 7 regular season he's practically a no show, had no 100 yard games and a total of 2 TD's. you're screwed by this point in your fantasy season.Weeks 8 - 12 he was racks up more stats than a lot of receivers in their whole season. so maybe this gets you in the playoffs. surely this shows he can be WR#1.Week 16: 3 rec 16 yds no td's. You lose your Superbowl if he's your go to guy.The first seven weeks were painful to watch. The next four weeks were great, but I was pretty much out of the playoff run by then. So maybe bitterness is setting in. I stand by my opinion, but I can see this easily turning into a I told you so thread in about five weeks (not from me to you but from you to me.)

 

[blackjack23]

Okay, I admit I'm being the glass is half empty guy and reaching for reasons. I do own this guy and have owned him since his rookie year and plan on keeping him as long as I can. It seems I may have way too high of an expectation from a WR1. I always felt like I keep a bunch of WR2 types around and really no elite players, which is the pool I put this guy in.

I also don't understand the part about him being inconsistent last year - he scored a TD or got 100 yards or both in 10 out of 16 games.

I made that statement because one of those 10 games he had 2 yards and 1 td and:Last year:Weeks 1 - 7 regular season he's practically a no show, had no 100 yard games and a total of 2 TD's. you're screwed by this point in your fantasy season.Weeks 8 - 12 he was racks up more stats than a lot of receivers in their whole season. so maybe this gets you in the playoffs. surely this shows he can be WR#1.Week 16: 3 rec 16 yds no td's. You lose your Superbowl if he's your go to guy.The first seven weeks were painful to watch. The next four weeks were great, but I was pretty much out of the playoff run by then. So maybe bitterness is setting in. I stand by my opinion, but I can see this easily turning into a I told you so thread in about five weeks (not from me to you but from you to me.)

So if he put up those great #s in weeks 1-7 & week 16 and lousy #s those other weeks he'd be a #1 WR? That makes no sense and it just sounds like you're just bitter and letting it skew your thoughts. You kind of admitted that so thats cool. I understand, sometimes this game makes you think irrationally.

 

[saintfool]

Colston is a great buy low for the fantasy playoffs. When Reggie comes back him and moore will be splitting the short yardage check down and underneath routes. Reggies presence in the middle and off the edge should soften up any safety coverage on Colston. The guy is a 6'4 beast and a big redzone target, hes much more of a mismatch for any CB than midget Lance Moore. I just traded for him as my #3 wide out and got him on the cheap - when Breese goes off at home in the dome for 400 yards week 1 of the playoffs, have both of those guys in your lineup.

good call. he's a great buy low target with terrific upside down the stretch. the saints are going to be in shoot-outs all year because of the defense. the running game is inconsistent. they are hoping for a playoff run and that really starts now for them. brees will be throwing a lot and colston will be targeted often. he's just getting healthy and regaining his timing with brees.

 

[Hue G]

Colston is a great buy low for the fantasy playoffs. When Reggie comes back him and moore will be splitting the short yardage check down and underneath routes. Reggies presence in the middle and off the edge should soften up any safety coverage on Colston. The guy is a 6'4 beast and a big redzone target, hes much more of a mismatch for any CB than midget Lance Moore. I just traded for him as my #3 wide out and got him on the cheap - when Breese goes off at home in the dome for 400 yards week 1 of the playoffs, have both of those guys in your lineup.

good call. he's a great buy low target with terrific upside down the stretch. the saints are going to be in shoot-outs all year because of the defense. the running game is inconsistent. they are hoping for a playoff run and that really starts now for them. brees will be throwing a lot and colston will be targeted often. he's just getting healthy and regaining his timing with brees.

Sounds more like he's getting worse than getting healthyKnee - Limited practice. Questionable for Week 12 vs. Green Bay(Updated - 11/19/08)