is it too early to drop Ray Rice (1 Viewer)

[red]

i picked him up late hoping for a breakout game with mcgahee out. sadly he under performed. he got a ton of touches but had a costly fumble, such that when the Ravens needed to burn time, they handed the ball off to McClain who did well.

with mcgahee coming back real soon, it looks like rice will be relegated to splitting carries with McClain to give McGahee a breather.

i'm not sure if it's worth rostering Rice with people like patten and pierre thomas on the WW. am i being overly pessimistic or just realistic? thoughts

 

[lion_crazz]

Eh, I don't think you drop him until McGahee is back. This week, the Ravens play the Texans - a team that could not stop Willie Parker from getting in the end zone. If McGahee is out again, Rice might not be a bad play.

 

[Black]

Eh, I don't think you drop him until McGahee is back. This week, the Ravens play the Texans - a team that could not stop Willie Parker from getting in the end zone. If McGahee is out again, Rice might not be a bad play.

It's a loooong season. An older (late 20s?) RB hurt at the beginning of the year does not bode well for his chances to make it thru the season. I'd be tempted to wait.

 

[Ned]

too early, yes. i'm still holding, but i'm concerned also. he played the bungles, for crying out loud and got outplaid by a fb.

 

[pollardsvision]

i picked him up late hoping for a breakout game with mcgahee out. sadly he under performed. he got a ton of touches but had a costly fumble, such that when the Ravens needed to burn time, they handed the ball off to McClain who did well. with mcgahee coming back real soon, it looks like rice will be relegated to splitting carries with McClain to give McGahee a breather.i'm not sure if it's worth rostering Rice with people like patten and pierre thomas on the WW. am i being overly pessimistic or just realistic? thoughts

in a redraft, i'd still try to hold. i'd rather have pierre, but otherwise, rice should be owned until mcgahee shows he's healthy.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I would love it if I was an owner in your league and you dropped Ray Rice...I took him in my redraft league after LJ, Yurner, and Chris Johnson...as my RB4 I am very happy he was involved early in the year. he's a rookie and i don't think he was as bad as some think. The OL in Baltimore is very questionable.

 

[LordHusker]

I'm actually considering dropping Rice in a 14-team, TD-heavy league, and grabbing Tim Hightower. I love owning a bunch of backup RBs; I have Slaton, Leon Washington, Ladell Betts and Rice stowed away on my bench. Trouble is, Rice doesn't look so talented, and Hightower at least gets goal line touches. Not. Sure. What. To. Do.

 

[simey]

The OL in Baltimore is very questionable.

I thought their OL played pretty well last weekend. Flacco didn't get sacked, and the rushing game was very good. It might have been against the Bengals D, but the line still played well for the most part. Willie Anderson being added could help them out too.

 

[TLEF316]

it was just one game. I dont think i'd drop anyone (other than a late round flier) barring injury after week 1. I certainly wouldnt consider dropping a talented RB playing behind a slightly older guy with a bit of an injury history.

I've got Rice in my keeper league, and I'll be holding all year unless he pulls a JJ Arrington. we have a rookie keeper spot, so he's a valuable commodity unless he just shows absolutly ZERO ability.

 

[simey]

Eh, I don't think you drop him until McGahee is back. This week, the Ravens play the Texans - a team that could not stop Willie Parker from getting in the end zone. If McGahee is out again, Rice might not be a bad play.

McGahee might be back this week.

What will Willis McGahee have to do to get on the field for Sunday’s game against Houston?

“We don’t have any rules like that. He needs to be ready to go. I’m very confident that he will be ready to go this week. Last week – we talked about it – it was going to be a little bit iffy last week, whether he would be ready to go. Two things you really keep in mind; A, is he going to be able to protect himself and be safe out there 100%? And, B, is he going to be able to contribute to victory? We expect him to be able to do that this week. We felt like in an emergency situation, with a limited number of reps, that would be the standard last week. Unfortunately, we were unable to get him out there. But, if he can do the job, then he’ll be out there.”

 

[RUSF18]

Way too early. Sure he struggled week 1, but he also had awesome series against the first-string MIN D in the preseason. Enough to warrant holding until he either keeps struggling or McGahee has proven he's 100%.

 

[StrikeS2k]

I'm dropping Chad Ocho Cinco for the same reason. I can't handle any player giving me one bad week.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Yes, I'd say too early. I watched the game against last night and he looked ok. Not wow by any stretch. And two huge errors one on the easy dropped pass that he could have turned into a big gain and the most huge of huge errors giving up the fumble that was returned for a TD.

At times, he looked pretty good. So I'd hang on to see more of him.

J

 

[grouse]

Ray Rice finished week 1 with 25 total touches. That was good for #2 overall in the NFL, behind only Edgerrin James who had 26. I'd say it's waaaay too early to drop him. Yes, McGahee is coming back, but we have no idea what kind of durability he'll have going forward on that gimpy knee. Hold Rice.

 

[Riflemen]

I own McGahee and I have no confidence in him lasting the whole season. I'll go one step further and say that it is too early to BUY Rice. He had 25 touches and his owners have to be pleased with that kind of opportunity. Let McGahee come back and post some touches. Rice will slide into a typical backup role and then TARGET Rice for the 2nd half of the season when his opportunity will be greater and his knowledge of the offense more ingrained. He shouldn't cost much in a redraft.

 

[acme]

I was real high on Rice in pre-season. Now, not so sure.

Have him stashed on the taxi squad as a red-shirt, so not concerned at all about this year. But it seems as if the Ravens are using him less and less as this season goes on, which has me a little concerned about his long-term value.

 

[prosopis]

I was real high on Rice in pre-season. Now, not so sure.Have him stashed on the taxi squad as a red-shirt, so not concerned at all about this year. But it seems as if the Ravens are using him less and less as this season goes on, which has me a little concerned about his long-term value.

I was very dissapointed last night. Looks like McClain is the man to have.

 

[Judge Smails]

14 man roster - dumped him last week

 

[the rover]

If I have a sudden need to go to the waiver wire, he's the guy I drop.

 

[tombonneau]

Guy in our 14-team league just dropped him this week to pick up Cedric Benson. I'm sure someone will claim him as RBs are pretty thin on the wire. If you have the room I'd stash him; it's a long season ...

 

[switz]

i picked him up late hoping for a breakout game with mcgahee out. sadly he under performed. he got a ton of touches but had a costly fumble, such that when the Ravens needed to burn time, they handed the ball off to McClain who did well. with mcgahee coming back real soon, it looks like rice will be relegated to splitting carries with McClain to give McGahee a breather.i'm not sure if it's worth rostering Rice with people like patten and pierre thomas on the WW. am i being overly pessimistic or just realistic? thoughts

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

 

[TLEF316]

i would like to drop him, but the WW is pretty thin at the moment and he might hold some value as a rookie keeper if the Ravens move willis during the off season.

 

[BigRed]

I would love it if I was an owner in your league and you dropped Ray Rice...I took him in my redraft league

I would love it if I was an owner in your league and you kept him, unless maybe you're in a large league. More and more it's looking like the McClain Show in BAL as he's the only reliable RB.

 

[AKA]

He is a Drop in Redraft and a Hold in Dynasty/Keeper leauges

 

[PatrickT]

12 team, 18 man rosters, so there's nothing better to hold on to right now. But he's at the top of the cut list.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

After watching McClain play it's clear that he has the gig. He runs hard and hangs on to the ball. That offense is pretty lethargic, though. Rookie QB, bad TE, banged up line, rookie coach, old (but good) WR and not much else. Probably the best thing about McClain is his one-liners.

"Nine million terrorists in the world and I gotta kill one with feet smaller than my sister." Classic.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

I'm a Jersey homer for Ray Rice and I hope he does great. I also agree with the assessment of their situation, as it doesn't look like McGahee can hold up.But that said, Ray was a second round pick for a reason. His skill set transition to the pros was up for debate. And right now, about all he's shown is heart, because what passed for quickness and vision in the Big East is a whole other matter in the NFL. I'm not saying he can't adjust, I hope he does, but I don't think its remotely overreacting to say he won't have a fantasy impact this season, because he's really shown nothing in his time. To paraphrase a Maddenism, he's far more likely to do nothing than he is to do something.

 

[massraider]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

I am sure there is a back or two that turned out really good, that couldn't beat out a fullback for carries his rookie year.I just can't think of anyone.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

But that said, Ray was a second round pick for a reason. His skill set transition to the pros was up for debate. And right now, about all he's shown is heart, because what passed for quickness and vision in the Big East is a whole other matter in the NFL. I'm not saying he can't adjust, I hope he does, but I don't think its remotely overreacting to say he won't have a fantasy impact this season, because he's really shown nothing in his time. To paraphrase a Maddenism, he's far more likely to do nothing than he is to do something.

Ray Rice was a first day NFL pick for a reason -- he has a pretty good shot at being a good player in the NFL. His "skill set" wasn't a question at all for him; his size was. If you had questions concerning his talent going in to the season then great, but you likely don't own him anywhere so it is a moot point anyway.

 

[The Noid]

I was able to unload Rice in a trade with the McGahee owner (plus Deangelo Williams) to get Slaton and a bye week kicker fill-in last week (20 teams, PPR) and I was as happy as a clam. He was a late-round flier for me, anyway.

 

[davearm]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.

Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

The people that took Rice in redrafts correctly predicted a window of opportunity would come open because of McGahee's injuries.These same people, and the rest of the FF world, had no reason to expect LeRon McClain to be the guy to sieze the opportunity.

I wouldn't call that goofing.

 

[massraider]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.

Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

The people that took Rice in redrafts correctly predicted a window of opportunity would come open because of McGahee's injuries.These same people, and the rest of the FF world, had no reason to expect LeRon McClain to be the guy to sieze the opportunity.

I wouldn't call that goofing.

If he can't beat out McClain, then it means that there's a good chance he isn't as good as they thought. Which means they goofed.

 

[switz]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

Well, since I wasn't very high on Rice in the first place, I wouldn't say I'm overreacting.

 

[switz]

But that said, Ray was a second round pick for a reason. His skill set transition to the pros was up for debate. And right now, about all he's shown is heart, because what passed for quickness and vision in the Big East is a whole other matter in the NFL. I'm not saying he can't adjust, I hope he does, but I don't think its remotely overreacting to say he won't have a fantasy impact this season, because he's really shown nothing in his time. To paraphrase a Maddenism, he's far more likely to do nothing than he is to do something.

Ray Rice was a first day NFL pick for a reason -- he has a pretty good shot at being a good player in the NFL. His "skill set" wasn't a question at all for him; his size was.

So was Curtis Enis, William Green, Blair Thomas, KiJana Carter, Cedric Benson, Rashaan Salaam, Michael Bennett, ...

If you had questions concerning his talent going in to the season then great, but you likely don't own him anywhere so it is a moot point anyway.

Exactly...

 

[davearm]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.

Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

The people that took Rice in redrafts correctly predicted a window of opportunity would come open because of McGahee's injuries.These same people, and the rest of the FF world, had no reason to expect LeRon McClain to be the guy to sieze the opportunity.

I wouldn't call that goofing.

If he can't beat out McClain, then it means that there's a good chance he isn't as good as they thought. Which means they goofed.

Or, more likely (IMO), Rice is just who they thought, McClain is better than anyone expected, and Rice's fumbling issues were also unexpected. It's really a combination of the latter two factors that have killed Rice's value.

 

[massraider]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.

Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

The people that took Rice in redrafts correctly predicted a window of opportunity would come open because of McGahee's injuries.These same people, and the rest of the FF world, had no reason to expect LeRon McClain to be the guy to sieze the opportunity.

I wouldn't call that goofing.

If he can't beat out McClain, then it means that there's a good chance he isn't as good as they thought. Which means they goofed.

Or, more likely (IMO), Rice is just who they thought, McClain is better than anyone expected, and Rice's fumbling issues were also unexpected. It's really a combination of the latter two factors that have killed Rice's value.

Wait, who is "they"? Rice owners?Well, I can tell you, if they read the Shark Pool, they thought Rice was pretty darn good, and I don't care how much of a surprise McClain is, the fact is that McGahee got hurt, like all the Rice owners were expecting/hoping. And a fullback beat him out.

Good players force their way onto the field. Steve Slaton/Felix Jones. The fact that Rice has done so little, with so much opportunity, is very, very concerning.

 

[Two Deep]

In a dynasty league it is way too early. McClain is not the long term answer. Sure hes had a couple of good games but he is no game changer. What you've seen is is his ceiling. Can pound the ball and will be a excellent short yardage back. There aren't many 270 pound 4.8 forty game breaking backs. Rice will be the featured runner this time next year.

 

[massraider]

In a dynasty league it is way too early. McClain is not the long term answer. Sure hes had a couple of good games but he is no game changer. What you've seen is is his ceiling. Can pound the ball and will be a excellent short yardage back. There aren't many 270 pound 4.8 forty game breaking backs. Rice will be the featured runner this time next year.

What are they waiting for?

 

[Two Deep]

In a dynasty league it is way too early. McClain is not the long term answer. Sure hes had a couple of good games but he is no game changer. What you've seen is is his ceiling. Can pound the ball and will be a excellent short yardage back. There aren't many 270 pound 4.8 forty game breaking backs. Rice will be the featured runner this time next year.

What are they waiting for?

I would assume they are giving him some time to learn all the little nuances of playing running back in the NFL. Lets see we are 4 games into the season they have McGahee they were in a dog fight with Pittsburg and were not going to hand the ball off to the 21 year old rookie who is probably learning their system on the fly. Patience........

 

[davearm]

Rice really hasn't been impressive, he's been outplayed by McLain... I think it's time for everyone who hyped him to admit they were wrong.

Over-react much? We are 1/4 of the way through the season here. How many RBs are rostered in these leagues in which you would advocate dropping him? McClain has indeed played well, but isn't exactly a known commodity yet. McGahee is already banged up, and has also been pretty pedestrian during much of his career.

Four games in is way too early to give up on Ray Rice, even in redraft leagues. Obviously if we are talking dynasty or keeper, giving up on him is even more ridiculous. Most of the intellegent people hyping him were doing so for dynasty purposes, BTW. Obviously the people that took him in the top-75 or so picks in redraft right after the McGahee news broke goofed.

The people that took Rice in redrafts correctly predicted a window of opportunity would come open because of McGahee's injuries.These same people, and the rest of the FF world, had no reason to expect LeRon McClain to be the guy to sieze the opportunity.

I wouldn't call that goofing.

If he can't beat out McClain, then it means that there's a good chance he isn't as good as they thought. Which means they goofed.

Or, more likely (IMO), Rice is just who they thought, McClain is better than anyone expected, and Rice's fumbling issues were also unexpected. It's really a combination of the latter two factors that have killed Rice's value.

Wait, who is "they"? Rice owners?Well, I can tell you, if they read the Shark Pool, they thought Rice was pretty darn good, and I don't care how much of a surprise McClain is, the fact is that McGahee got hurt, like all the Rice owners were expecting/hoping. And a fullback beat him out.

Good players force their way onto the field. Steve Slaton/Felix Jones. The fact that Rice has done so little, with so much opportunity, is very, very concerning.

Same "they" you mentioned... Rice owners.Hey I dropped the guy last week, so don't confuse me for someone that thinks Rice is awesome or something. That said, my opinion of his talent hasn't changed since August. He's cost himself with two fumbles, and this McClain guy has taken that opportunity and run with it.

Felix Jones is another guy I drafted, but I sure wouldn't hold him out as a guy that's forcing his way onto the field. 18 carries and 2 receptions in 4 games is impressing noone.

 

[switz]

Hey I dropped the guy last week, so don't confuse me for someone that thinks Rice is awesome or something. That said, my opinion of his talent hasn't changed since August. He's cost himself with two fumbles, and this McClain guy has taken that opportunity and run with it.Felix Jones is another guy I drafted, but I sure wouldn't hold him out as a guy that's forcing his way onto the field. 18 carries and 2 receptions in 4 games is impressing noone.

But it's more impressive than Rice, especially considering the Cowboys have Barber, the Ravens have ... McClain.And you should hear the clamor in Dallas to get Jones on the field more... he's definitely forcing his way on the field.

 

[BobbyLayne]

And you should hear the clamor in Dallas to get Jones on the field more... he's definitely forcing his way on the field.

I'll give ya points for consistency and persistency.That's more than Felix owners will get out of their RB5.

 

[p00h]

If I have a sudden need to go to the waiver wire, he's the guy I drop.

Yup. Dropped him in 2 leagues jsut to play waiver wire musical chair. That offense is not even remotely dynamic enough for me to be sitting on their 3rd rb! I still think he has a solid career ahead of him in the NFL, but this year he clearly isn't going to amount to much...Remember people, in FF, much like in poker, you gotta know when to holdem, and know when to foldem...