Is Marvin passing the Torch to Reggie? (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

I have had Marvin in my keeper league for 5 years now. This is the first year I feel that Reggie Wayne is now the #1 guy in Indy.

Marvin will still get his because of Manning probably throwing close to 35 TDs this year, but Reggie seems to be ready to take over.

Prediction: Wayne 96 catches 14 TDs

Harrison 88 catches 11 TDs Still not too shabby.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

I have had Marvin in my keeper league for 5 years now. This is the first year I feel that Reggie Wayne is now the #1 guy in Indy. Marvin will still get his because of Manning probably throwing close to 35 TDs this year, but Reggie seems to be ready to take over.Prediction: Wayne 96 catches 14 TDs Harrison 88 catches 11 TDs Still not too shabby.

i think those TD numbers are silly predictions. Peyton LOVES to use his TEs and RBs as options as well.i think, if anything, Harrison is still the greater red-zone threat. he should see just as many looks, and it is possible that Wayne will have a greater Yards-per-Catch so that he finishes ahead in yards. I'd say:Harrison - 85 rec, 1050 yds, 10 TDWayne - 85 rec, 1250 yds, 6 TD

 

[diesel7982]

Definitely the first time Ive heard this this offseason.

 

[Da Guru]

I have had Marvin in my keeper league for 5 years now. This is the first year I feel that Reggie Wayne is now the #1 guy in Indy. Marvin will still get his because of Manning probably throwing close to 35 TDs this year, but Reggie seems to be ready to take over.Prediction: Wayne 96 catches 14 TDs Harrison 88 catches 11 TDs Still not too shabby.

i think those TD numbers are silly predictions. Peyton LOVES to use his TEs and RBs as options as well.i think, if anything, Harrison is still the greater red-zone threat. he should see just as many looks, and it is possible that Wayne will have a greater Yards-per-Catch so that he finishes ahead in yards. I'd say:Harrison - 85 rec, 1050 yds, 10 TDWayne - 85 rec, 1250 yds, 6 TD

Wayne had 12 in 2004, should be good for at least that this year.

 

[Patoons]

I have had Marvin in my keeper league for 5 years now. This is the first year I feel that Reggie Wayne is now the #1 guy in Indy. Marvin will still get his because of Manning probably throwing close to 35 TDs this year, but Reggie seems to be ready to take over.Prediction: Wayne 96 catches 14 TDs Harrison 88 catches 11 TDs Still not too shabby.

i think those TD numbers are silly predictions. Peyton LOVES to use his TEs and RBs as options as well.i think, if anything, Harrison is still the greater red-zone threat. he should see just as many looks, and it is possible that Wayne will have a greater Yards-per-Catch so that he finishes ahead in yards. I'd say:Harrison - 85 rec, 1050 yds, 10 TDWayne - 85 rec, 1250 yds, 6 TD

Wayne had 12 in 2004, should be good for at least that this year.

Are you expecting Manning to shatter his TD record? If not, that is silly logic. Shattering the record is the only way you can say that he'll get "atleast" his 12 he had in '04.

 

[jon_mx]

i think those TD numbers are silly predictions. Peyton LOVES to use his TEs and RBs as options as well.i think, if anything, Harrison is still the greater red-zone threat. he should see just as many looks, and it is possible that Wayne will have a greater Yards-per-Catch so that he finishes ahead in yards. I'd say:Harrison - 85 rec, 1050 yds, 10 TDWayne - 85 rec, 1250 yds, 6 TD

Harrison and Wayne will have almost that many TDs by midseason. Manning is throwing for 40+ TDs this year. Bank on it. There is no way they only catch 16 TDs this year.

 

[Arnold. S]

Wayne will have more TDs than Marvin this year

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

i think those TD numbers are silly predictions. Peyton LOVES to use his TEs and RBs as options as well.i think, if anything, Harrison is still the greater red-zone threat. he should see just as many looks, and it is possible that Wayne will have a greater Yards-per-Catch so that he finishes ahead in yards. I'd say:Harrison - 85 rec, 1050 yds, 10 TDWayne - 85 rec, 1250 yds, 6 TD

Harrison and Wayne will have almost that many TDs by midseason. Manning is throwing for 40+ TDs this year. Bank on it. There is no way they only catch 16 TDs this year.

Total TDs by Harrison and Wayne:2003 - 172004 - 25 (record setting year)2005 - 17What makes you think that they're due for 16 TDs at mid-season?I don't think the departure of Edge will enhance the passing game production...

 

[chihawk]

I posted some analysis on this topic a couple of weeks ago...

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...20&hl=wayne

 

[Irish]

i think those TD numbers are silly predictions. Peyton LOVES to use his TEs and RBs as options as well.i think, if anything, Harrison is still the greater red-zone threat. he should see just as many looks, and it is possible that Wayne will have a greater Yards-per-Catch so that he finishes ahead in yards. I'd say:Harrison - 85 rec, 1050 yds, 10 TDWayne - 85 rec, 1250 yds, 6 TD

Harrison and Wayne will have almost that many TDs by midseason. Manning is throwing for 40+ TDs this year. Bank on it. There is no way they only catch 16 TDs this year.

Total TDs by Harrison and Wayne:2003 - 172004 - 25 (record setting year)2005 - 17What makes you think that they're due for 16 TDs at mid-season?I don't think the departure of Edge will enhance the passing game production...

 

[Judge Smails]

i think those TD numbers are silly predictions. Peyton LOVES to use his TEs and RBs as options as well.i think, if anything, Harrison is still the greater red-zone threat. he should see just as many looks, and it is possible that Wayne will have a greater Yards-per-Catch so that he finishes ahead in yards. I'd say:Harrison - 85 rec, 1050 yds, 10 TDWayne - 85 rec, 1250 yds, 6 TD

Harrison and Wayne will have almost that many TDs by midseason. Manning is throwing for 40+ TDs this year. Bank on it. There is no way they only catch 16 TDs this year.

Total TDs by Harrison and Wayne:2003 - 172004 - 25 (record setting year)2005 - 17What makes you think that they're due for 16 TDs at mid-season?I don't think the departure of Edge will enhance the passing game production...

Uh, I don't think so. Stokely is a lot less likely to catch 10 TD's this time around than Wayne is to catch 12-14. I won't say Wayne will surpass Harrison, or that he will get 15 TD's. I will say that projections that have Wayne at 5-8 TD's are way off base. Manning will throw more - that is a given. Wayne had 12 TD's the year before. Strong preseason, another year of seasoning. I think he is a safer play TD wise than a lot of WR's drafted around him, including Boldin and Chambers. I'm banking on 1200 yards, 10-12 TD's.

 

[redman]

Was anyone else wracking their brains for any Cincinnati Bengal named "Reggie"?

 

[jcuadrado]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

 

[BigRed]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

True I think it'll be 1a and 1b all over again. Harrison had several uncharacteristic drops last night which were disturbing....

 

[Native]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

True I think it'll be 1a and 1b all over again. Harrison had several uncharacteristic drops last night which were disturbing....

He also stepped out of bounds at the one on a reception where it looked like he should have been able to tip-toe in for a TD.

 

[J-Rock]

Marvin was targeted 15 times Sunday. Wayne only 8. Marvin is the man for targets, big plays and td's. this year.

 

[millerarm]

Nope.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Wayne had a pretty good pre-season,..looked sharp,..better than Harrison. I was really hoping that Wayne would have a better year, but I think Harrison will hold on to that #1 role a liiiiiiittle bit longer. The record breaking year, it wasn't so much Harrison and Wayne being godly, but more of Stokley with 10 and Pollard with 6.

Hope Wayne has solid season since he's my #2 guy, but here are my honest opinions.

Predictions : Harrison - 89/ 1204/ 11 Wayne - 87/ 1144/ 10

....Pretty balla stuff there.

 

[Koya]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

True I think it'll be 1a and 1b all over again. Harrison had several uncharacteristic drops last night which were disturbing....

He also stepped out of bounds at the one on a reception where it looked like he should have been able to tip-toe in for a TD.

Maybe in slow motion he could have tip-toed in. Seems to me he did just a fine job of making sure he caught the ball for what (should have been) an easy TD to follow.Marv was Marv. Great.

 

[Native]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

True I think it'll be 1a and 1b all over again. Harrison had several uncharacteristic drops last night which were disturbing....

He also stepped out of bounds at the one on a reception where it looked like he should have been able to tip-toe in for a TD.

Maybe in slow motion he could have tip-toed in. Seems to me he did just a fine job of making sure he caught the ball for what (should have been) an easy TD to follow.Marv was Marv. Great.

Agree with you. Dont know why youre confused though. Just pointing out that his numbers were close to being THAT MUCH better.

 

[J-Rock]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

True I think it'll be 1a and 1b all over again. Harrison had several uncharacteristic drops last night which were disturbing....

He also stepped out of bounds at the one on a reception where it looked like he should have been able to tip-toe in for a TD.

Maybe in slow motion he could have tip-toed in. Seems to me he did just a fine job of making sure he caught the ball for what (should have been) an easy TD to follow.Marv was Marv. Great.

There is no way he could have "tip - toe'd" in for a TD there. Peyton threw it too close to the sideline with Marv. running at a pretty good clip to get there to make the catch.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

True I think it'll be 1a and 1b all over again. Harrison had several uncharacteristic drops last night which were disturbing....

He also stepped out of bounds at the one on a reception where it looked like he should have been able to tip-toe in for a TD.

Maybe in slow motion he could have tip-toed in. Seems to me he did just a fine job of making sure he caught the ball for what (should have been) an easy TD to follow.Marv was Marv. Great.

There is no way he could have "tip - toe'd" in for a TD there. Peyton threw it too close to the sideline with Marv. running at a pretty good clip to get there to make the catch.

I don't agree with this. He probably couldn't have gotten his body in the end zone, but if he would have stretched out his arm instead of worrying that the ref caught the facemask call he would have scored.

 

[djcolts]

He probably threw to Marvin more because Peyton rolled out the right much more often than he did in previous years. I think this is the adjustment offensively the Colts made from the Pittsburgh disaster in January. Since Marvin is on the right side 95% of the time - this may give Marvin the edge in total targets this year.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I was impressed with how well Manning threw while on the run.

Anyone else?

 

[djcolts]

I was impressed with how well Manning threw while on the run.Anyone else?

That is something he needed to work on in the off-season, and he did. It will help the Colts down the road (unless the defense plays like it did last night all season, then it doesn't matter - it won't be enough).

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

He probably threw to Marvin more because Peyton rolled out the right much more often than he did in previous years. I think this is the adjustment offensively the Colts made from the Pittsburgh disaster in January. Since Marvin is on the right side 95% of the time - this may give Marvin the edge in total targets this year.

I agree to an extent. I think this won't apply to all games, though; just ones with a particularly impressive defense. Pittsburgh and New York qualify imo. In other games, or when the protection is better I think you'll see Wayne get more looks.Edited to add: By "more looks" I mean more than last night, not necessarily more than Marvin-- although that's a possibility.

 

[Todem]

still looks like Marvin is the man out in Indy. Wayne is a great player...but Marving is one of those Jerry Rice type guys....they are good for a looooonngggg time... not comparing Rice to Marvin...just stating similar characteristics (playing at the highest level for many years)

True I think it'll be 1a and 1b all over again. Harrison had several uncharacteristic drops last night which were disturbing....

He also stepped out of bounds at the one on a reception where it looked like he should have been able to tip-toe in for a TD.

Maybe in slow motion he could have tip-toed in. Seems to me he did just a fine job of making sure he caught the ball for what (should have been) an easy TD to follow.Marv was Marv. Great.

There is no way he could have "tip - toe'd" in for a TD there. Peyton threw it too close to the sideline with Marv. running at a pretty good clip to get there to make the catch.

I don't agree with this. He probably couldn't have gotten his body in the end zone, but if he would have stretched out his arm instead of worrying that the ref caught the facemask call he would have scored.

Give me a friggin break his momentum took him right out. I am a Marvin Harrison owner in almost all my leagues and I don't let his lack of a TD cloud my thoughts of he should have had a TD.Fantasy Football does wierd things to people. Get a grip.

 

[djcolts]

He probably threw to Marvin more because Peyton rolled out the right much more often than he did in previous years. I think this is the adjustment offensively the Colts made from the Pittsburgh disaster in January. Since Marvin is on the right side 95% of the time - this may give Marvin the edge in total targets this year.

I agree to an extent. I think this won't apply to all games, though; just ones with a particularly impressive defense. Pittsburgh and New York qualify imo. In other games, or when the protection is better I think you'll see Wayne get more looks.

 

[Judge Smails]

Expect 125 and 2 TD's from Reggie this week. Peyton will absolutely light up the Texans - 5 TD's..

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't agree with this. He probably couldn't have gotten his body in the end zone, but if he would have stretched out his arm instead of worrying that the ref caught the facemask call he would have scored.

Give me a friggin break his momentum took him right out. I am a Marvin Harrison owner in almost all my leagues and I don't let his lack of a TD cloud my thoughts of he should have had a TD.Fantasy Football does wierd things to people. Get a grip.

Well I saw it differently.Now go take a Ritalin. Sheesh.

 

[Da Guru]

Good week for a bump.

 

[PsychoMan]

Good week for a bump.

no kidding ... may as well merge this one in.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

We can calculate the Colts "midseason" stats after next week. They've had a bye already. So far, it looks like what I predicted is spot on:

Reggie and Marvin with similar reception totals. Reggie with a higher YPC. Total TD between the two @ midseason currently at 8.

 

[Gr00vus]

You'll know Wayne has surpassed Harrison when Champ Bailey spends the entire game covering Wayne instead of Harrison - the exact opposite of what happened this week. By the way, has Denver's #27 picture appeared on any milk cartons yet?

In NFL terms Harrison is still the man, even though it didn't translate into FF numbers this week.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You'll know Wayne has surpassed Harrison when Champ Bailey spends the entire game covering Wayne instead of Harrison - the exact opposite of what happened this week. By the way, has Denver's #27 picture appeared on any milk cartons yet?In NFL terms Harrison is still the man, even though it didn't translate into FF numbers this week.

Right, the Colts accepted that Denver and specifically Champ Bailey was going to keep Harrison relatively in check. The 2nd half Manning and Wayne took a blowtorch to #27. 3 TDs, a career day...I love Wayne but please don't forget that harrison has a lot more targets than Wayne coming into this game...it seemed obvious to me thru the 1st 6-7 weeks of the season that harrison is the clear #1 in this offense still. And a message to Peyton...stop wasting throws to Dallas Clark...he's unreliable...take those throws and redistribute to Wayne and Harrison, thanks.