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Is there any way to stop terrorism? (1 Viewer)

It can not be taken seriously since no politician will ever do anything about it. They will just sit around talking is all while radical muslims waltz around the world doing as they please.
If you are serious, then you've severely limited your thinking on this issue.  As soon as you say, "no Muslims", then they start setting up non-Muslims to attack.  As soon as you say, "our borders are closed" they'll infiltrate using those on the inside.  Is your next step going to be 'shut down the internet'?  It's a game of whack-a-mole and we'll never win.  

 
If you are serious, then you've severely limited your thinking on this issue.  As soon as you say, "no Muslims", then they start setting up non-Muslims to attack.  As soon as you say, "our borders are closed" they'll infiltrate using those on the inside.  Is your next step going to be 'shut down the internet'?  It's a game of whack-a-mole and we'll never win.  
I believe my thinking is enough is enough. Something drastic has to change to increase the odds in our favor. I don't believe continuing to let radical muslims wander around the globe doing as they please is the answer. That pretty much is what they are doing now since you really don't want to "offend" them God forbid.....

 
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You just ship their dirty ###es back to the home land. If that offends them well then tough poo....Until they can learn to play nice with others, isolate them to their wasteland of a home....


I think they are pretty easy to identify actually. Just because a middle easterner has his beard trim to look all PC and Americanized doesn't mean much to me.


Pretty sure the "head gear" would have given white guilt lady away. Bounce her like a taco I say.....
So, you mean just the brown people or the ones with head scarves?  As if it weren't already bad enough being a female American citizen of Latin descent with breast cancer.

 
So, you mean just the brown people or the ones with head scarves?  As if it weren't already bad enough being a female American citizen of Latin descent with breast cancer.
The color of their skin is irrelevant, their religious beliefs aren't since that is what is behind it. Of course hard to really complain since their religion demands it.....

 
The color of their skin is irrelevant, their religious beliefs aren't since that is what is behind it. Of course hard to really complain since their religion demands it.....
Good thing Dr. Wernstrom invented that 100% accurate religion detector.

 
The color of their skin is irrelevant, their religious beliefs aren't since that is what is behind it. Of course hard to really complain since their religion demands it.....
So, you can identify someone's religion just by looking at them.

That and you can identify which ones buy into what you claim their religion demands of them vs. those that understand their own religion far better than you do?

 
So, you can identify someone's religion just by looking at them.

That and you can identify which ones buy into what you claim their religion demands of them vs. those that understand their own religion far better than you do?
Yeah, I am very talented like that.....They posted the pic of the 3 guys in the Brussels airport, I knew immediately they were muslim.... :mellow:

 
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Human nature is such that when we are threatened, whether the threat is simply perceived or real, we will either flee or fight.

Terrorism is the response from some people that choose to fight when they are threatened.  To stop terrorism, you either have to remove the threat to the terrorists or remove the desire to react with a fight.  Since the threat is sometimes simply a perceived threat that isn't actually real, that can be difficult.  Since the desire to fight is ingrained into one's DNA, that is also really tough to stop.

The only true way to defeat terrorism is to defeat it from within.  You have to change the minds of the potential terrorists by either removing what they perceive as a threat or by removing their desire to react by fighting (or hopefully, both). 

 
Human nature is such that when we are threatened, whether the threat is simply perceived or real, we will either flee or fight.

Terrorism is the response from some people that choose to fight when they are threatened.  To stop terrorism, you either have to remove the threat to the terrorists or remove the desire to react with a fight.  Since the threat is sometimes simply a perceived threat that isn't actually real, that can be difficult.  Since the desire to fight is ingrained into one's DNA, that is also really tough to stop.

The only true way to defeat terrorism is to defeat it from within.  You have to change the minds of the potential terrorists by either removing what they perceive as a threat or by removing their desire to react by fighting (or hopefully, both). 
The perceived threat you are talking about is called poverty.

You want to beat Daesh?  Give their potential recruits better jobs than what Daesh is offering.  If Daesh can't replenish their army eventually they will disappear.

 
The perceived threat you are talking about is called poverty.

You want to beat Daesh?  Give their potential recruits better jobs than what Daesh is offering.  If Daesh can't replenish their army eventually they will disappear.
I think it goes deeper than that.  The perception is that western culture is a threat to their ideals.  It's not just the poor that are being recruited.  The well educated are also being drawn in because the propaganda suggests that the ideals of their religion are under attack and God commands that they fight back at any cost.   

 
The perceived threat you are talking about is called poverty.

You want to beat Daesh?  Give their potential recruits better jobs than what Daesh is offering.  If Daesh can't replenish their army eventually they will disappear.
I don't think its that simple.  I could be wrong and poverty is no doubt adding fuel to the fire, but there seems to be more to it than that.

 
Actually I think it is that simple.  If you got rid of poverty you would cripple terrorist organizations.

To bad getting rid of poverty is significantly more difficult than trying to fight terrorists.

 
Its all perspective. I don't go in with the naïve thought I am going to change anyones mind. I really don't care....
Its not perspective... Its a fact you saw a picture of a man and thought he was Muslim or close enough.

And you were dead wrong.

I sure as hell hope nobody changes their mind to start thinking the way you are.

 
Its not perspective... Its a fact you saw a picture of a man and thought he was Muslim or close enough.

And you were dead wrong.

I sure as hell hope nobody changes their mind to start thinking the way you are.
I wouldn't your hippy head about it....

My theory is simple, you cant blow up innocent people if you don't have access to them. The only people you would be blowing up is your own in the

desert if I had my way.....

 
Actually I think it is that simple.  If you got rid of poverty you would cripple terrorist organizations.

To bad getting rid of poverty is significantly more difficult than trying to fight terrorists.
I think we are talking about two different things then.  Crippling terrorist organizations is a less difficult than the concept of stopping terrorism.  McVeigh wasn't motivated by poverty and neither was Bin Laden.  Sure you can deplete their resources, but to truly stop terrorism takes more than that.

 
I think we are talking about two different things then.  Crippling terrorist organizations is a less difficult than the concept of stopping terrorism.  McVeigh wasn't motivated by poverty and neither was Bin Laden.  Sure you can deplete their resources, but to truly stop terrorism takes more than that.
Their religion to the core is the problem. You wont stop that since these are people from birth raised to believe its perfectly fine to kill the evil infidels. Hell its their God given right!

These attacks will continue to occur because no politician has the balls to go to extremes to stop it. So we will continue to go about our business and "oh and aw" and "that's a shame" but in the end, nothing will get done......

 
I don't know, seems like Northern Ireland's been pretty quiet since the peace accords reached in the mid 90's.

 
I think we are talking about two different things then.  Crippling terrorist organizations is a less difficult than the concept of stopping terrorism.  McVeigh wasn't motivated by poverty and neither was Bin Laden.  Sure you can deplete their resources, but to truly stop terrorism takes more than that.
Apologies.  I was talking about the terrorist organizations that allow demagogues like Trump and Cruz to convince Americans that terrorism is an existential threat to America.  Here's a hint Poncho: They're not.  You're never going to destroy them completely, and there will always be lone wolves but you can choke them of their resources and their primary need is cannon fodder.

 
These attacks will continue to occur because no politician has the balls to go to extremes to stop it. So we will continue to go about our business and "oh and aw" and "that's a shame" but in the end, nothing will get done......
:lmao:   yup because nothing stops extremism like extremism.

Vote Trump!!!

 
Apologies.  I was talking about the terrorist organizations that allow demagogues like Trump and Cruz to convince Americans that terrorism is an existential threat to America.  Here's a hint Poncho: They're not.  You're never going to destroy them completely, and there will always be lone wolves but you can choke them of their resources and their primary need is cannon fodder.
Lone wolves would be very easy to handle if all the Muslims were chilling in the desert herding goats....

 
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I'm a tremendous extremist.  I would say, and this is not to brag of course but, conservatively speaking I am one of the three greatest extremists in the history of the world.  And that's not me saying that, it's the polls and the internet saying that.  And all I know is what I read on the internet.  Nobody has been doing extremism, and, mind you, winning at extremism longer and better than me.  I have all the best extremisms and that's why I should be elected President.

~Donald Trump

 
I wouldn't your hippy head about it....

My theory is simple, you cant blow up innocent people if you don't have access to them. The only people you would be blowing up is your own in the

desert if I had my way.....
Yeah.  There's no way they could recruit people already in the US.  The telephone and internet won't be invented for another 100 years.  

 
Their religion to the core is the problem. You wont stop that since these are people from birth raised to believe its perfectly fine to kill the evil infidels. Hell its their God given right!

These attacks will continue to occur because no politician has the balls to go to extremes to stop it. So we will continue to go about our business and "oh and aw" and "that's a shame" but in the end, nothing will get done......
Honestly, I'm willing to listen to your plan and whatever "extremes to stop it" you think are necessary.  Unfortunately, the only idea you've come up with would fail miserably.  So you may want to step off that high horse you're riding until you come up with a better idea.  

 
Their religion to the core is the problem. You wont stop that since these are people from birth raised to believe its perfectly fine to kill the evil infidels. Hell its their God given right!

These attacks will continue to occur because no politician has the balls to go to extremes to stop it. So we will continue to go about our business and "oh and aw" and "that's a shame" but in the end, nothing will get done......
You think it's strictly a problem of a culture of violence? 

 
Honestly, I'm willing to listen to your plan and whatever "extremes to stop it" you think are necessary.  Unfortunately, the only idea you've come up with would fail miserably.  So you may want to step off that high horse you're riding until you come up with a better idea.  
Why would it fail? Is the better idea letting any middle easterner in the country? That's working out well for the world....

 
I'm a tremendous extremist.  I would say, and this is not to brag of course but, conservatively speaking I am one of the three greatest extremists in the history of the world.  And that's not me saying that, it's the polls and the internet saying that.  And all I know is what I read on the internet.  Nobody has been doing extremism, and, mind you, winning at extremism longer and better than me.  I have all the best extremisms and that's why I should be elected President.

~Donald Trump
I forgot

We won the extremists. I love the extremists.

~ Donald Trump

 
Why would it fail? Is the better idea letting any middle easterner in the country? That's working out well for the world....
You're obviously not reading my previous posts.  As soon as you say, "no middle easterners", they'll recruit non-middle easterners to do their bidding.  Try to shut down the borders entirely and they'll just recruit someone from the inside.  It's not like they're going to say, "they're not letting middle easterners in the country.  Guess our jig is up."

 
You're obviously not reading my previous posts.  As soon as you say, "no middle easterners", they'll recruit non-middle easterners to do their bidding.  Try to shut down the borders entirely and they'll just recruit someone from the inside.  It's not like they're going to say, "they're not letting middle easterners in the country.  Guess our jig is up."
Then obviously you deal with that when the situation arises. I don't believe it would be as common as you believe. Joe Bob from Kansas wont be as inclined to put on the bomb vest in the name of Allah since he wasn't raised since birth being taught to hate and kill the west as his religion seems to give them a free pass for murder.....

These people HATE Israel and the west for no other reason then what they have been taught their entire life. I don't find them to be extremely "tolerant" people.....

 
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Actually I think it is that simple.  If you got rid of poverty you would cripple terrorist organizations.

To bad getting rid of poverty is significantly more difficult than trying to fight terrorists.
Nah bro, quite frankly they're both fruitless pursuits. You can't eliminate the feelings and mental processes of being human and eliminate terrorism. There are also undeniably too many people on this planet who we struggle to feed as it is, and are one famine or animal virus from starving hundreds of millions more.

 
You're obviously not reading my previous posts.  As soon as you say, "no middle easterners", they'll recruit non-middle easterners to do their bidding.  Try to shut down the borders entirely and they'll just recruit someone from the inside.  It's not like they're going to say, "they're not letting middle easterners in the country.  Guess our jig is up."
I imagine they are trying to recruit non-middle easterners already.  Doesn't seem like that group will ever make up a large portion of groups like Daesh.

 
Then obviously you deal with that when the situation arises. I don't believe it would be as common as you believe. Joe Bob from Kansas wont be as inclined to put on the bomb vest in the name of Allah since he wasn't raised since birth being taught to hate and kill the west as his religion seems to give them a free pass for murder.....

These people HATE Israel and the west for no other reason then what they have been taught their entire life. I don't find them to be extremely "tolerant" people.....
Who are THESE people? 

 
These people HATE Israel and the west for no other reason then what they have been taught their entire life. I don't find them to be extremely "tolerant" people.....
Yup.  No reason at all to hate the west.  You should be Em's VP nomination.

 
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Yup.  No reason at all to hate the west.  You should be Em's VP nomination.
I didn't wake up one day out of boredom deciding not to like radical muslims, they have worked hard for disdain! id say they have earned it.....

 
Waterboarding and other forms of torture would not end terrorism, but would drastically reduce terrorist attacks.

For example, the Paris attacker who was captured had full knowledge of the  imminent attacks in Brussels. Sufficient torture could have revealed this information, prevented the attack, saved 30 innocent lives, prevented countless physical injuries, and led to the arrest or ideally the death of multiple terrorists. 

Which is more immoral? Torturing a worthless, savage, murderous animal as a means of saving the lives of countless good, innocent people? Or refusing to take those necessary actions and knowingly allowing the savage animal to murder countless good, innocent people?

When morality leads to death of the innocent, it becomes immoral.

 
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I didn't wake up one day out of boredom deciding not to like radical muslims, they have worked hard for disdain! id say they have earned it.....
But you think radical Muslims just woke up one day out of boredom and decided not to like Americans.  And that we did nothing to warrant their disdain.

 
I didn't wake up one day out of boredom deciding not to like radical muslims, they have worked hard for disdain! id say they have earned it.....
But you think a bunch of Muslims just woke up one day out of boredom and decided not to like Americans.  And that we did nothing to warrant their disdain.

 
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But you think a bunch of Muslims just woke up one day out of boredom and decided not to like Americans.  And that we did nothing to warrant their disdain.
I don't really care! I am not sure how you can justify these 20 something year old men going into public places and killing innocent people who have never done anything to them. I understand that their religion supports and encourages them to kill all non muslims, that doesn't make it right imo but you go ahead and justify their actions ace.....

 
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I don't really care! I am not sure how you can justify these 20 something year old men going into public places and killing innocent people who have never done anything to them. I understand that their religion supports and encourages them to kill all non muslims, that doesn't make it right imo but you go ahead and justify their actions ace.....
No one is justifying it and you know it Ponch.  I am pointing out that your stance is naive and your solutions are ill considered, childish and will only foment the very evil you are railing against.  But I know you won't understand that so...

Vote Trump!

 
Crushing ISIS and killing al-Baghdadi would go a long way to convincing the average Sunni Muslim in the ME that this is not a true Caliphate. Let's start there. Then it would expose the rest of the animals that are just in it for the bloodlust, money and power that this has brought them. They are bastardizing Islam and using it as a prop for their purposes. Of course, they will just come up with another interpretation of the Koran to justify continuing, but at least getting rid of ISIS can let the world focus on stopping other offshoots. ISIS clearly comes first.

 
No one is justifying it and you know it Ponch.  I am pointing out that your stance is naive and your solutions are ill considered, childish and will only foment the very evil you are railing against.  But I know you won't understand that so...

Vote Trump!
Bull####. You just tried to justify it don't be a little phony when you just wrote it, own it. 

 

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