Is Westbrook washed up? (1 Viewer)

[the spanker]

Well I took a big risk today. A owner offered me Westbrook for Benson (12man PPR league). I already had McCoy stashed on my 14 man roster.

Westy hasn't been getting many carries although he was the man the 2nd half of the raiders game which was encouraging.

Does everyone else consider Westy a solid #2 with upside going forward? Health permitting (please stay healthy).

Anyone trying to buy or sell on this guy? I hope this doesn't backfire on me.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Well I took a big risk today. A owner offered me Westbrook for Benson (12man PPR league). I already had McCoy stashed on my 14 man roster.Westy hasn't been getting many carries although he was the man the 2nd half of the raiders game which was encouraging. Does everyone else consider Westy a solid #2 with upside going forward? Health permitting (please stay healthy). Anyone trying to buy or sell on this guy? I hope this doesn't backfire on me.

Well, if you love to check the injury reports and tie up your entire Sunday morning. Then this trades a winner.

 

[NeverEnough]

Yet my NON ACF forum thread gets moved? This forum is unreal

 

[tomarken]

Yet my NON ACF forum thread gets moved? This forum is unreal

It's only been three minutes. Just report it and it will be moved.

 

[the spanker]

Yet my NON ACF forum thread gets moved? This forum is unreal

I simply asked do owners still consider Westy a solid #2 option going forward. Especially considering the cons of his health, and timeshare with McCoy.I also asked if owners are buying or selling him.What's your beef?

 

[Retire_Already_Oscar]

When you bring your league discussion in the fray [which very few people in this forum care about your team or league], it's heading to ACF.

Your title is Westbrook Trade and your first sentence lets us know about your Westbrook/Benson deal, it just doesn't belong here. If you want to talk Westbrook, talk Westbrook and not about your league [better word your threads].

 

[the spanker]

When you bring your league discussion in the fray [which very few people in this forum care about your team or league], it's heading to ACF.Your title is Westbrook Trade and your first sentence lets us know about your Westbrook/Benson deal, it just doesn't belong here. If you want to talk Westbrook, talk Westbrook and not about your league [better word your threads].

Sorry about that, i was just excited about the trade.I asked two general questions for opinions in regards to Westbrook's outlook this year.You guys are really getting worse by the day on here. The fighting bickering and now having nothing better to do than pick apart posts is just getting to downright petty status.I'm sorry your posts have been deleted but no need to find someone else to take it out on.

 

[meatwad1]

I'll talk Westbrook...most of the threads on this forum suck...I think it was a good trade, by the end of the year Westy will have at least 2 or 3 monster games that will get you wins. Benson has a track reord of being a #####, so I would take the injury risk over the ##### anyday. I think you won out here big time.

 

[editor47]

i don't see a problem with the thread being in here. the guy already traded for him. he just wanted an assessment of his value going forward. perfectly fine topic for here.

i just offered anquan boldin to the westbrook owner who is in an almost constant rebuilding mode. it will get shot down, because the BW owner is an Eagles fan.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Love the forum police...

I don't see how this is an ACF post. It's more of a "Do you think ________ is washed up?" thread, but whatever.

Anyway, Westbrook has been one of the best FF players of the past decade. Looks like the Eagles still have things going on O, and Westy seems to be about as healthy as you can expect. For me, if my team is pretty solid, I'd probably keep Benson. If I need to take a chance to turn around a losing team, I might take a shot on Westbrook. Just my two cents...

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'll talk Westbrook...most of the threads on this forum suck...I think it was a good trade, by the end of the year Westy will have at least 2 or 3 monster games that will get you wins. Benson has a track reord of being a #####, so I would take the injury risk over the ##### anyday. I think you won out here big time.

But how do you feel about Thomas Jones?

 

[the spanker]

I'll talk Westbrook...most of the threads on this forum suck...I think it was a good trade, by the end of the year Westy will have at least 2 or 3 monster games that will get you wins. Benson has a track reord of being a #####, so I would take the injury risk over the ##### anyday. I think you won out here big time.

Thanks for your reply. I didn't intend to make this about my trade. I really was just wondering how many owners have targeted Westy to buy or are selling because of the risks that come with him.I agree, I could have titled my post better. But I did ask two general questions in regards to his outlook this year.

I generally don't post questions on here so I'm not an expert like some of you are in wording your questions.

However I don't pick apart others posts on here for ACF and I'd appreciate the same courtesy extended to me.

 

[meatwad1]

I'll talk Westbrook...most of the threads on this forum suck...I think it was a good trade, by the end of the year Westy will have at least 2 or 3 monster games that will get you wins. Benson has a track reord of being a #####, so I would take the injury risk over the ##### anyday. I think you won out here big time.

But how do you feel about Thomas Jones?

For some reason, I have never liked Thomas Jones, but for some reason he keeps proving me wrong.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'll talk Westbrook...most of the threads on this forum suck...I think it was a good trade, by the end of the year Westy will have at least 2 or 3 monster games that will get you wins. Benson has a track reord of being a #####, so I would take the injury risk over the ##### anyday. I think you won out here big time.

But how do you feel about Thomas Jones?

For some reason, I have never liked Thomas Jones, but for some reason he keeps proving me wrong.

That's nuts.

 

[the spanker]

Thanks for changing the title of the thread to something more appropriate.

Well is Westy washed up? What are owners offering for him? What would you sell him for?

I watched the Raiders game and saw glimpes of the explosion he's shown in the past. A solid #2 RB in ppr or too much risk to target in a trade?

 

[meatwad1]

I'll talk Westbrook...most of the threads on this forum suck...I think it was a good trade, by the end of the year Westy will have at least 2 or 3 monster games that will get you wins. Benson has a track reord of being a #####, so I would take the injury risk over the ##### anyday. I think you won out here big time.

Thanks for your reply. I didn't intend to make this about my trade. I really was just wondering how many owners have targeted Westy to buy or are selling because of the risks that come with him.I agree, I could have titled my post better. But I did ask two general questions in regards to his outlook this year.I generally don't post questions on here so I'm not an expert like some of you are in wording your questions. However I don't pick apart others posts on here for ACF and I'd appreciate the same courtesy extended to me.

You don't need to apologize to anyone...your post title was fine. I mean, geez, I can count about 10 of these threads on the front page right now.Here are some examples:Whose rolling with Maroney this weekend!?!?!?!! Who the F cares unless he is on your team!Buy or sell low on Jacobs!?!?! Again who f-ing cares? Unless of course you own him or want to own him. Who is better Nicks or Orton?!? Go to the ACF you fool!!!!!!!Seriously, sometimes it amazes me that people can be so stupid to waste energy commenting on threads that they have no interest in.

 

[editor47]

no, i don't think he is washed up. i think he can help you the rest of the year.

yes, he's going to lose carries to mccoy.

do you think boldin is a fair offer for him?

 

[the spanker]

no, i don't think he is washed up. i think he can help you the rest of the year. yes, he's going to lose carries to mccoy.do you think boldin is a fair offer for him?

Boldin's gimpy right now so that hurts his value, just my opinion. I'd offer Boldin though in hopes of getting a bite.

 

[the spanker]

I'll talk Westbrook...most of the threads on this forum suck...I think it was a good trade, by the end of the year Westy will have at least 2 or 3 monster games that will get you wins. Benson has a track reord of being a #####, so I would take the injury risk over the ##### anyday. I think you won out here big time.

Thanks for your reply. I didn't intend to make this about my trade. I really was just wondering how many owners have targeted Westy to buy or are selling because of the risks that come with him.I agree, I could have titled my post better. But I did ask two general questions in regards to his outlook this year.I generally don't post questions on here so I'm not an expert like some of you are in wording your questions. However I don't pick apart others posts on here for ACF and I'd appreciate the same courtesy extended to me.

You don't need to apologize to anyone...your post title was fine. I mean, geez, I can count about 10 of these threads on the front page right now.Here are some examples:Whose rolling with Maroney this weekend!?!?!?!! Who the F cares unless he is on your team!Buy or sell low on Jacobs!?!?! Again who f-ing cares? Unless of course you own him or want to own him. Who is better Nicks or Orton?!? Go to the ACF you fool!!!!!!!Seriously, sometimes it amazes me that people can be so stupid to waste energy commenting on threads that they have no interest in.

Thanks for the understanding and support.

 

[gilpdawg]

I believe Westy still has a lot of value in a PPR.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Yet my NON ACF forum thread gets moved? This forum is unreal

He's been here longer.

 

[mystykoekaki]

i hate westbrook, same #### every year ... and every year I'm glad I didn't draft him

 

[Tanner9919]

Well I took a big risk today. A owner offered me Westbrook for Benson (12man PPR league). I already had McCoy stashed on my 14 man roster.Westy hasn't been getting many carries although he was the man the 2nd half of the raiders game which was encouraging. Does everyone else consider Westy a solid #2 with upside going forward? Health permitting (please stay healthy). Anyone trying to buy or sell on this guy? I hope this doesn't backfire on me.

Westy's ship sailed long ago, he's no longer the same player.

 

[JT10]

Westbrook is high risk, high reward.

Benson is lower risk, lower reward.

It depends on how the rest of your team is. If you have a lot of boom or bust players, Benson is the better RB to own. Or, if you have a lot of safe players, go with Westbrook.

Pretty even, imo.

Although I think Benson's playoff schedule is a bit better.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I have Westbrook as my RB2 in a league and I'm not entertaining offers for him. From what I've seen so far, he's done fine when healthy and I really like his upside down the stretch here. I may be delusional, but I expect high-end RB2/low-end RB1 numbers out of him by end of year still.

 

[habsfan]

Well I took a big risk today. A owner offered me Westbrook for Benson (12man PPR league). I already had McCoy stashed on my 14 man roster.Westy hasn't been getting many carries although he was the man the 2nd half of the raiders game which was encouraging. Does everyone else consider Westy a solid #2 with upside going forward? Health permitting (please stay healthy). Anyone trying to buy or sell on this guy? I hope this doesn't backfire on me.

Westy's ship sailed long ago, he's no longer the same player.

I think he's still a "reasonable percentage" of the same player but the supporting cast has risen to meet him (so to speak). The offense is no longer "all Westy, all the time". I used to have the stomach for the "GTD stuff" when he was "the guy", now he's just one of the guys...

 

[Dr. Octopus]

On the plus side he's still heavily involved in the offense has hasn't completely lost it, however he's not the same player. He's no longer explosive and I doubt we'll see any monster games from him - they were few and far between last season as well.

At 30 years old the injuries and workload has acaught up to him. He should still be solid in ppr re-draft leagues, but has very little value outside of that format.

 

[TheFanatic]

On the plus side he's still heavily involved in the offense has hasn't completely lost it, however he's not the same player. He's no longer explosive and I doubt we'll see any monster games from him - they were few and far between last season as well.

At 30 years old the injuries and workload has acaught up to him. He should still be solid in ppr re-draft leagues, but has very little value outside of that format.

You mean like the 29 pts he put up in PPR's last week?Every week the guy is healthy I start him.

16.2

9.6

Out

Bye

11.5

29.1

Those aren't RB1 numbers but they are consistent. If he's healthy he's playing for me in my PPR. The league I have him in is a start 1 RB, 1 WR and three flex so I can start Addai and Slaton and have him as one of my flexes. I prefer RB's in the flex over second and third tier WR's, even in PPR's, because they get the ball more consistently. It's rare that a RB gets shutdown completely the way a WR can get blanked. As long as Westbrook is trotting out on the field he's getting touches.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

On the plus side he's still heavily involved in the offense has hasn't completely lost it, however he's not the same player. He's no longer explosive and I doubt we'll see any monster games from him - they were few and far between last season as well.

At 30 years old the injuries and workload has acaught up to him. He should still be solid in ppr re-draft leagues, but has very little value outside of that format.

You mean like the 29 pts he put up in PPR's last week?

He had 23 points in my ppr league. That's a very nice week but not really a monster game. I probably shouldn't have said "ever", but I wouldn't count on him carrying teams anymore.

 

[dhockster]

I have a sneaking suspicion that with the next 3 games against the NFC East and Westbrook complaining that he is

not getting enough touches and the fact that the Eagles offense was so inept against the Raiders, that Westbrook will

get a lot more use in the next 3 weeks. I think because the Eagles early season opponents were so soft, Reid was trying to

save Westbrook for the really important games. Well, with the loss to the Raiders, every game is pretty important right now, especially division games.

Westbrook has had some monster games against the Giants and Cowboys over the last few years.

I could be wrong, but I think Westbrook's production is about to increase.

 

[p00h]

i hate westbrook, same #### every year ... and every year I'm glad I didn't draft him

same bigtime production every year?!? I can see how you'd hate that. it's like I go to work, and they keep telling me I'm not only gonna make the same money as last year, but get a raise on top of it. Going to quit that damb job one of these days!!!

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I think because the Eagles early season opponents were so soft, Reid was trying tosave Westbrook for the really important games. Well, with the loss to the Raiders, every game is pretty important right now, especially division games.

I know it's just your opinion, but it's at least reasonable for that to have been a part of Reid's logic in how he has handled/is handling Westbrook. I hope you're right, on some level. That said, the proof is in the pudding. I'm not going to expect much more in the way of touches than he's seeing now until Reid shows me otherwise.I don't "need" Westbrook to be what he used to be on the one team I own him, but if he'd like to go on run where he goes ape@$# for a month or so I'd be more than happy about that.

 

[the spanker]

I have a sneaking suspicion that with the next 3 games against the NFC East and Westbrook complaining that he isnot getting enough touches and the fact that the Eagles offense was so inept against the Raiders, that Westbrook willget a lot more use in the next 3 weeks. I think because the Eagles early season opponents were so soft, Reid was trying tosave Westbrook for the really important games. Well, with the loss to the Raiders, every game is pretty important right now, especially division games.Westbrook has had some monster games against the Giants and Cowboys over the last few years.I could be wrong, but I think Westbrook's production is about to increase.

This is EXACTLY the thinking that inspired me to take the trade offer for him. I don't think McCoy's touches will do anything than slightly lower his production and help keep him fresh and not be over worked.Like you we could both be wrong, but if you want the shot at #1RB numbers for a low price (especially in PPR), now is the time to make a trade for Westbrook.

 

[CiscoKid]

I don't think he's washed up. I thought at times earlier in the year that it was very possible he might have lost a step, but I think that can be attributed to the ankle. This w/e against the Raiders, I started to see the burst that he's been missing. There were a couple of plays that he looked like the Westbrook of 2 years ago - he was fast and running with power and vision. Barring another injury, I think he's going to start to show he's back. McCoy is still going to get touches, but there has always been RBs that have rotated in within this system (Buckhalter, for example...).

 

[the spanker]

Just read this on Rotoword which is very encouraging:

Brian Westbrook believes he's now healthy enough to take on more touches and that he can make a bigger impact if the Eagles ditch their running back rotation.

Several Eagles players questioned the play-calling after last week's game, wondering why the team abandoned the run. Westbrook, who totaled 141 yards on 15 touches, was on the field for 64 percent of the plays compared to 32 percent for LeSean McCoy. Expect to see a similar 2-to-1 ratio going forward.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

 

[certificate]

Tough Call. I'm an eagles homer and watch every game, Westy hasn't seemed the same so far this year, but on the other hand he's been injured. McCoy hasn't done a ton yet, so I don't think Westy is in any danger of being relegated to the bench, so I think he has pretty good value in that offense. Is he still an elite talent though? I hope so, but I have to admit that I'm starting to wonder.

 

[ratbast]

Can Westbrook ever dominate again? In PPR I think he will still be solid but at this point he reminds me of pre 2009 Reggie Bush.

Would I like him on my team? sure, but another RB2 would be needed. Maybe someone like Grant or Benson who I think is a "sell now".