Richardson practiced in full today, could limit Pead's value if he manages to play the whole game this time:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7691/daryl-richardson
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Isiah Pead>Darryl Richardson. (1 Viewer)
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GeorgeCostanza
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yea from the looks of it this backfield is going to be a desperation play all year no matter who's injuredshader said:
KellysHeroes
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Liquid Tension
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Did Richardson even get on the field for the last game? I ask because the NFL Gamebook says he was a DNP yet I have read on the 1st or 2nd snap he got his foot stepped on and never came back in. Our league allows subs to be inserted if a player is either a DNP or inactive (for someone who gets hurt in pregame or some crazy circumstance). It is a great rule, but just interested because this is the first time I have ever seen a conflict (our rules state whatever the gamebook states so that is what we will use, but curious).
As for DRichardson, I think he can be a guy like other lighter/smaller backs such as Charles and take the load, but not as much of a workhorse as Charles (or probably as good). The OL is better with Long, but it is still not giving him any room to run. They need to get the ball in his hands on play action runs to him and then throw to him once the linebackers drop.
As for DRichardson, I think he can be a guy like other lighter/smaller backs such as Charles and take the load, but not as much of a workhorse as Charles (or probably as good). The OL is better with Long, but it is still not giving him any room to run. They need to get the ball in his hands on play action runs to him and then throw to him once the linebackers drop.
Anyone know if DRich actually participated in the practice yesterday? Last week he was reported to be a "full participant" but minutes before kickoff some local reporter stated that he participated in practice but didn't really do anything. I guess that means he was on the field but wasn't actually participating with the team...maybe playing catch with Bobby Boucher on the sideline.
Can't see him making some sort of miraclous recovery and playing or being effective this week, mere days after doing diddly on Sunday. He's been tweeting that his foot WAS NOT stepped on and that he's good to go for Thursday. Sounds like a lot of BS to me.
Can't see him making some sort of miraclous recovery and playing or being effective this week, mere days after doing diddly on Sunday. He's been tweeting that his foot WAS NOT stepped on and that he's good to go for Thursday. Sounds like a lot of BS to me.
As if it wasn't muddled enough!
Daryl Richardson (foot) has reportedly had more "spring to his step" during practice this week.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/article_de1874ef-e69c-5035-9152-d5e6eea9ad12.html#.UkL_drqarg0.twitter
Daryl Richardson (foot) has reportedly had more "spring to his step" during practice this week.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/article_de1874ef-e69c-5035-9152-d5e6eea9ad12.html#.UkL_drqarg0.twitter
northwoods
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I'm out...dropping DR and the STL RB situation like a hot rock. Call me if any of their runners becomes fantasy relevant...
Biabreakable
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Some notes I jotted down from the Rams/Falcons game-
Ogletree week 2 making play after play during the 1st quarter. Tackle for loss. Tackle for injury to FB. Pass rush. Batted down a screen. Good in coverage. Just making a lot of plays.
Cunningham failed on 3rd and 1. Rams go for it on 4th down with Richardson and make it. Next play Bradford throws and interception off a tipped ball.
Cunningham stopped in the backfield on an attempt after the pick 6 by Osi. Then Pead gets a chance but is buried by Weatherspoon,he may have got a yard before being pushed back 4 yards. Weatherspoon caused the tip and the tackle here. He also has helped cover Cook and other receivers. He is playing great defense, matching Ogletree.
Pead gets split out to outside WR on an empty backfield play. He does this thing like Daunte Culpepper scoring a TD with his hands before the snap of the play. He better do that every time he splits out wide or the defense can read that as a key if he will actually be getting the screen or not. I didn't see him doing this thing with his hands again in the game. Perhaps it is a signal for when the crowd is too loud, not sure.
Austin with a decent run off left guard.
Richardson with a nice run at about 4 min left in 2nd quarter. Austin lined up in the backfield a couple more times.
The catch on Austin's 1st TD was very well executed. Somewhat Chris Carter like. Bradford did a lot better against 3 man rush. Austin was very close to out of bounds but cuts things just right barely on the corner for the TD and so hard to defend. Bradford with a nice fake with his eyes and hand motion to the receiver on the inside of this play, which threw off the coverage a bit.
Austin with a nice catch on the slant. Then Pettis scores the TD on an out route. I under estimated Pettis mainly because I was not paying much attention to that draft and dismissed Pettis being a factor as the oldest WR on the team, similar to Richardson having that veteran experience the other players do not have.
The routes being run by Pettis are somewhat what I expect from Stedman Bailey later on. I think they have a similar role in the offense, but eventually Bailey will be better at it than him.
Pead does a nice job in the 4th quarter running a route that causes a PI on the LB coming out of the backfield. They go to Pead again on an outside hook route that he ran pretty well. This is part of the offense they want RB like Richardson and Pead to be interchangable with WR and they will rotate Austin around trading places with them as well. Pead makes another nice catch on an in route after Austin got the wind knocked out of him and was on the sideline a couple plays. Rams showing a lot of trust in Pead in the 4th quarter. Have not seen Richardson in awhile and I wonder why.
Rams convert another 4th down by throwing a banana to a FB/HB. A PI on Pettis gets them closer then Pead didn't run the route Bradford wanted. The Rams score on an out to Austin out of the slot 3 WR side.
I thought Pead looked pretty good as a receiver for the most part. None of the RB looked good as runners. I thought it was significant the Rams were using Pead in the 4th quarter hurry up offense, Richardson may have been banged up at that point though. Still, aside from the one bad route he ran and not much room for any RB on run plays, this was about the best I have seen from Pead thus far.
I do think the Rams will eventually get defenses spread out enough that they may give up the inside run, something that both coaches have a long history of leaning on. I do not think either Richardson or Pead are well suited to this role.
Ogletree week 2 making play after play during the 1st quarter. Tackle for loss. Tackle for injury to FB. Pass rush. Batted down a screen. Good in coverage. Just making a lot of plays.
Cunningham failed on 3rd and 1. Rams go for it on 4th down with Richardson and make it. Next play Bradford throws and interception off a tipped ball.
Cunningham stopped in the backfield on an attempt after the pick 6 by Osi. Then Pead gets a chance but is buried by Weatherspoon,he may have got a yard before being pushed back 4 yards. Weatherspoon caused the tip and the tackle here. He also has helped cover Cook and other receivers. He is playing great defense, matching Ogletree.
Pead gets split out to outside WR on an empty backfield play. He does this thing like Daunte Culpepper scoring a TD with his hands before the snap of the play. He better do that every time he splits out wide or the defense can read that as a key if he will actually be getting the screen or not. I didn't see him doing this thing with his hands again in the game. Perhaps it is a signal for when the crowd is too loud, not sure.
Austin with a decent run off left guard.
Richardson with a nice run at about 4 min left in 2nd quarter. Austin lined up in the backfield a couple more times.
The catch on Austin's 1st TD was very well executed. Somewhat Chris Carter like. Bradford did a lot better against 3 man rush. Austin was very close to out of bounds but cuts things just right barely on the corner for the TD and so hard to defend. Bradford with a nice fake with his eyes and hand motion to the receiver on the inside of this play, which threw off the coverage a bit.
Austin with a nice catch on the slant. Then Pettis scores the TD on an out route. I under estimated Pettis mainly because I was not paying much attention to that draft and dismissed Pettis being a factor as the oldest WR on the team, similar to Richardson having that veteran experience the other players do not have.
The routes being run by Pettis are somewhat what I expect from Stedman Bailey later on. I think they have a similar role in the offense, but eventually Bailey will be better at it than him.
Pead does a nice job in the 4th quarter running a route that causes a PI on the LB coming out of the backfield. They go to Pead again on an outside hook route that he ran pretty well. This is part of the offense they want RB like Richardson and Pead to be interchangable with WR and they will rotate Austin around trading places with them as well. Pead makes another nice catch on an in route after Austin got the wind knocked out of him and was on the sideline a couple plays. Rams showing a lot of trust in Pead in the 4th quarter. Have not seen Richardson in awhile and I wonder why.
Rams convert another 4th down by throwing a banana to a FB/HB. A PI on Pettis gets them closer then Pead didn't run the route Bradford wanted. The Rams score on an out to Austin out of the slot 3 WR side.
I thought Pead looked pretty good as a receiver for the most part. None of the RB looked good as runners. I thought it was significant the Rams were using Pead in the 4th quarter hurry up offense, Richardson may have been banged up at that point though. Still, aside from the one bad route he ran and not much room for any RB on run plays, this was about the best I have seen from Pead thus far.
I do think the Rams will eventually get defenses spread out enough that they may give up the inside run, something that both coaches have a long history of leaning on. I do not think either Richardson or Pead are well suited to this role.
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The Kerminator
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Pead is inactive for tonight's game. What do you expect from Richardson given this news?
GeorgeCostanza
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the rams backfield is pure desperation
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KellysHeroes
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Richardson is terrible
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
This is a thread with no winners, both Pead and richardson are lucky to be rostered in the nfl.
Clutchfanatic
Footballguy
Man Richardson is awful.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
A lot of guys look good with 5-6 touches. Richardson is not a feature back, he's a COP
Wow I came in here to say that Daryl Richardson is awful but it looks like you guys have it all about covered lol
Really though, the I line is bad and doesn't open any holes, but he is also terrible. I mean...terrible. Like not a starting quality Rb in the nfl. Like the rams should be embarrassed that this is who they are trotting out as their starter.
He can't create. He can int get what's in front of him and given to him. And he doesn't look fast. No shiftiness, no elusiveness. No power. Just awful.
And this is a Richardson owner talking here. The fact that pead can't beat this turd out certainly is telling about pead too. I think Cunningham and Stacey are gonna get their shots.
Really though, the I line is bad and doesn't open any holes, but he is also terrible. I mean...terrible. Like not a starting quality Rb in the nfl. Like the rams should be embarrassed that this is who they are trotting out as their starter.
He can't create. He can int get what's in front of him and given to him. And he doesn't look fast. No shiftiness, no elusiveness. No power. Just awful.
And this is a Richardson owner talking here. The fact that pead can't beat this turd out certainly is telling about pead too. I think Cunningham and Stacey are gonna get their shots.
AngryPatriot
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Yeah- this is ridiculous. Ridley is a must start compared to this... The Rams O line is bad. I figured with Pead inactive that tonight is the night ( maybe 75/1, 2/30), would that be just crazy for a starting RB in the NFL? DR needs to do SOMETHING in the 2nd half or it's abandon ship. Is it just me or is their running game (aside from the poor blocking) seem predictable. No quick counts, no change of directions, no nothing. JUst run into Justin Smith, lol. That has to also fall on Jeff Fisher.
Despite all the FBG posters in here, he doesn't. The O-line is looking terrible...Richardson has not had a single crease to run through all night. He's following the play...and running into walls. Would take a special back...a LeSean McCoy type back, to accomplish much behind blocking this bad.
Average to merely good RBs need SOME semblance of blocking.
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True, but at the end of last year, Richardson wasn't good. In his last 16 carries, spread out over 5 or 6 games, he only had 24 yards. But he was explosive early in 2012.
Mark Davis
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Seems as if the Rams may be in line to draft another RB in 2014
I haven't seen a lot of him, and so I'm really not prepared to say he's good or bad. Watching tonight, you can tell he's not "special", but you still can't tell what kind of RB he is. We have a tendency in fantasy to judge RB's and QB's far too quickly off of stats that are enormously influenced by the performance of the Offensive lines they play behind.
The overwhelming majority of RB's need a CREASE at the very least, and right now DRich isn't getting one.
no...but we can watch his backup not finding the crease as well.
Watch replays of Gore's big runs tonight...he was untouched through the LOS on all of them. No question none of the Rams RBs are remotely close to as talented, but the difference in blocking is HUGE and generally under-appreciated/understood by fantasy footballers
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Speaking for myself, I completely understand that a successful run game is dependent on other factors besides the Rb, but a relented Rb is able to create somewhat even when the I line isn't opening holes. Bounce the run to the outside if you have to. Change direction. Use jump cuts. Anything. But to just plod into your own linemen when you know you aren't going to get more than a yard or 2...you just suck at that pt. great RBS find a way.
Agreed...great RBs find a way. But....who said Richardson was great? There are generally not more than a hnadful of great RBs playing any given year. For the other 25 or so RBs starting in the NFL on any given week...they generally need a LITTLE bit of blocking, and right now the Saint Louis Rams aren't giving that LITTLE BIT of blocking to their RBs. All of the "Richardson sucks" talk is short-sighted until he gets some semblance of blocking that remotely approaches average.
In situations like this, it's best to temper expectations. In redraft, look for other options. In dynasty, hold and pray for better days. Average RBs recover as their blocking recovers.
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AngryPatriot
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Some good points... but he does lack the power to blast for a couple extra yards, break a couple tackles. Kind of like Chris Johnson when the hole is not there, except he's no Chris Johnson! He just looks like a kid who's lost confidence, doesn't have any beast mode right now.... and true, not all his fault with the overall Rams total suckfest.
DaveGrumbles
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Only sensible post so far.
This is a truly awful OLine (and I think Im being polite there). No one is touting Richardson as Barry Sanders or ADP., so the 'great ones find a way' argument is a bit silly. This team blows and, like most bad football teams, it starts in the trenches. Change direction and bounce outside is an awesome idea as long as defenders aren't immediately in your backfield. No question Rams lack top end talent at RB but when your QB and Oline cant 'find a way', its pretty near impossible for a mid-level RB to 'find a way' either.
Chaka
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The loss of Roger Saffold seems to be having a hug impact on the entire offensive line, I thought with the addition of Long they would be improved as an offense across the board but giving up 11 sacks in the last two games is terrible even with the loss of Saffold.
Perhaps Brian Schottenheimer just sucks as an offensive coordinator and his teams should just be avoided from a fantasy perspective.
Perhaps Brian Schottenheimer just sucks as an offensive coordinator and his teams should just be avoided from a fantasy perspective.
Paulymaggs
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cstu
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CalBear
Footballguy
Speaking of blocking, Richardson's sucks. He got totally knocked on his butt on one play, leading to a sack.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
Has Bazinga been around since his preseason nonsense?I thought it was already interesting with all the cocky (so far wrong) predictions prior to the 1st and or 2nd preseason game.
Here is mine...DRich will be a top 24 RB (RB2) in standard PPR this year....and btw...please bump this in 19 weeks. If you don't I will...probably several times during the season
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Biabreakable
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Daryl Richardson
1-STL-ARI 20ra 63yds 3.15 5ca 33yds 6.60 25touch 96totyds
2-STL-ATL 10ra 35yds 3.50 5ca 45yds 9.00 15touch 80totyds
injured
4-STL-SFO 12ra 16yds 1.33 1ca 8yds 8.00 13touch 24totyds
Benny Cunningham
1-STL-ARI 0 0 0.00 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
2-STL-ATL 2ra 0 0.00 0 0 0 0 0.00 2touch 0totyds
3-STL-DAL 4ra 16yds 4.00 0 0 1ca 6yds 6.00 5touch 22totyds
4-STL-SFO 4ra 6yds 1.50 0 1 1ca 17yds 17.00 5touch 23totyds
Isiah Pead
Suspended
2-STL-ATL 1ra 1yds 1.00 0 0 2ca 18yds 9.00 3touch 19totyds
3-STL-DAL 6ra 20yds 3.33 0 0 7ca 43yds 6.14 13touch 63totyds
Inactive
Zac Stacy
1-STL-ARI 1ra 4yds 4.00 0 0 0 0 0.00 1touch 4totyds 0
Inactive
Inactive
4-STL-SFO 0 0 0.00 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
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Steeler
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Godsbrother
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I thank the Lord, Obama and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir that I did not start Richardson last night. The Rams offensive line makes the Steelers o-line look good. Okay maybe that is a stretch but the Rams line is terrible.
Insein
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TheFanatic
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The addition of Long is more important in the passing game than the running game. Tackles help protect QB's more than they open holes for RB's.
Schott is terrible. But do we ditch the OC so the QB has something like his sixth OC or HC in his career? Interception in SF territory and then three straight incompletions. Not a single run.
I was actually excited that they scored in the first quarter.How sad is that...
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