Jacoby Jones (1 Viewer)

[chook]

Not wanting to be giving subscriber content away, but Jeff Tea for the Tillerman was pretty damn confident in Jones becoming an out-and-out stud opposite Andre Johnson.

We've had plenty of discussion about Jones's potential ever since he was drafted (the next Colston one day, small hands the next), but nobody has been this definitive about him being a stud - certainly not recently.

So what's changed that I've missed?

 

[phthalatemagic]

Is it more than just a case of out of sight, out of mind? I'd like to know too.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

well he has been banged up and seems to be wr4 right now behind Walter and even Adavis.

He still has great prospects in dynasty/deep keeper leagues

 

[Nate]

Andre Davis and especially Walker performed very well in AJ & JJs absence. Daniels is factor every week. Between AJ, Walter, and Daniels there just isn't enough balls to go around for Jones to be much of a contributor this season, barring more injuries.

In a dynasty I'd stash him away. I don't think his long term prospects have changed much if at all.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Jones has EXCEPTIONAL physical talent. If he had been a DI player, he would have gone in the second round. He's got ridiculous acceleration and moves for such a long limbed WR, he's got good hands and toughness, and he is amazingly driven. I agree that the emergence of Davis and Walter will probably block him in the short term, but he has "it" and I see him starting in this league sooner or later.

 

[chook]

Jones has EXCEPTIONAL physical talent. If he had been a DI player, he would have gone in the second round. He's got ridiculous acceleration and moves for such a long limbed WR, he's got good hands and toughness, and he is amazingly driven. I agree that the emergence of Davis and Walter will probably block him in the short term, but he has "it" and I see him starting in this league sooner or later.

So his uber-small hands haven't been a problem at all in his time with the Texans?I must admit that after reading every single thing out there about him post-draft, I really have lapsed since the season started.

I'd like the guy to make it, and reading things such as those that yourself and Jeff have written suggests that he very well may yet.

Cheers.

 

[moderated]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.

People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.

he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.

He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

 

[falcoatl]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Do I even need to say this? Marques Colston!!! Draft position is telling to an extent, but there are always anomalies to the rankings and expert analysis. When Jacoby was healthy he was great. He's just been hurt most of the season. Now, even if he's healthy Walter, AJ and Davis are producing quite sufficiently. The only reason he's not getting a chance to reassert himself as a solid option is due to their depth at the position now. I'm confused why you think he's "overrated". I think he's much more a buy-low candidate than a sell high one.

 

[Nate]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Was there anything of substance you'd like to add to this?You're obviously quite low on him but you haven't stated a single tangible or even completely fabricated reason for it. Oh, except that he wasn't a first rounder. Because nothing of value ever came out of the other rounds of the draft...

 

[Dt's Mules]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Was there anything of substance you'd like to add to this?You're obviously quite low on him but you haven't stated a single tangible or even completely fabricated reason for it. Oh, except that he wasn't a first rounder. Because nothing of value ever came out of the other rounds of the draft...

He does state a reason, draft position. And while anomalies do happen, there is a reason they are anomalies.

 

[mrgerty]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Was there anything of substance you'd like to add to this?You're obviously quite low on him but you haven't stated a single tangible or even completely fabricated reason for it. Oh, except that he wasn't a first rounder. Because nothing of value ever came out of the other rounds of the draft...

He does state a reason, draft position. And while anomalies do happen, there is a reason they are anomalies.

Justifying those comments because "...there is a reason they are anomalies" isn't stretching the imagination very much. It's kind of like saying that the Patriots are favored to win each week or crayons come in different colors. Obviously lower draft picks don't produce as much as higher draft picks. The issue here is that Jacoby Jones isn't a low draft pick. 1- he was picked in the third round 2- the fact that he was drafted from a small school says a lot of positives about him, especially being picked that high.

 

[zamboni]

Unless the Texans become a bombs-away passing team, Jones probably has limited upside when you figure AJ will be the clear go-to guy, while Daniels and Walter have shown something as well. It may take another injury or two for Jones to have meaningful value.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Was there anything of substance you'd like to add to this?You're obviously quite low on him but you haven't stated a single tangible or even completely fabricated reason for it. Oh, except that he wasn't a first rounder. Because nothing of value ever came out of the other rounds of the draft...

He does state a reason, draft position. And while anomalies do happen, there is a reason they are anomalies.

But draft position is deceptive in Jacoby's case. He went to a D2 school, so his stock was clearly already discounted about a round or so. The fact that Jacoby went in the early third tells me that he was basically a first round physical talent, because you have to be that impressive to get in the first day as a player from such a small school. Also - two out of the top 5 WRs in most league (Owens and Housh) went later than Jones 73rd pick draft position. And Colston. And Marshall. And Driver. And Ward. And Coles. And Hackett. Guys like Jennings, Boldin, and Branch went in the 50s and 60s. Honestly, I think WR is one of the positions that its most beneficial to ignore draft status and instead, just watch the guy play and form your opinion that way (along with QB).

 

[gregjcross]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Was there anything of substance you'd like to add to this?You're obviously quite low on him but you haven't stated a single tangible or even completely fabricated reason for it. Oh, except that he wasn't a first rounder. Because nothing of value ever came out of the other rounds of the draft...

He does state a reason, draft position. And while anomalies do happen, there is a reason they are anomalies.

But draft position is deceptive in Jacoby's case. He went to a D2 school, so his stock was clearly already discounted about a round or so. The fact that Jacoby went in the early third tells me that he was basically a first round physical talent, because you have to be that impressive to get in the first day as a player from such a small school. Also - two out of the top 5 WRs in most league (Owens and Housh) went later than Jones 73rd pick draft position. And Colston. And Marshall. And Driver. And Ward. And Coles. And Hackett. Guys like Jennings, Boldin, and Branch went in the 50s and 60s. Honestly, I think WR is one of the positions that its most beneficial to ignore draft status and instead, just watch the guy play and form your opinion that way (along with QB).

Based on his preseason production, he has huge potential. He is obvously raw and had a typical rookie season (and the injury) when people were expecting that he was much better than typical. I personally think he will turn into something significant for those that demonstrate patience.

 

[falcoatl]

Unless the Texans become a bombs-away passing team, Jones probably has limited upside when you figure AJ will be the clear go-to guy, while Daniels and Walter have shown something as well. It may take another injury or two for Jones to have meaningful value.

I completely disagree. Yeah, AJ and Daniels are projected to be solid fantasy receiver in years to come, but there are plenty of other offenses that have/had recently more than 2 top-notch options. His production this season and in the pre-season was undoubtedly just the very tip of the ice berg. I don't think I need to reiterate any of the points made about his potential. I really think his ability to move up in the draft, despite his obvious lack of reputation basically ends all arguments against his potential.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Not wanting to be giving subscriber content away, but Jeff Tea for the Tillerman was pretty damn confident in Jones becoming an out-and-out stud opposite Andre Johnson.We've had plenty of discussion about Jones's potential ever since he was drafted (the next Colston one day, small hands the next), but nobody has been this definitive about him being a stud - certainly not recently.So what's changed that I've missed?

Why? The reasoning is that Jacoby has great potential. I do think he is a great buy low. Many fantasy owners have given up on Jones with Davis and Walter playing well. Jacoby Jones has been nicked up this season, but has the "it" factor, imo. The article does say that for the price of a 2008 2nd rounder, Jones is a buy. If I had a late 2nd round rookie pick, I would definitely think that is a great deal. I do not see receivers in this draft (at that draft position) that are of the same calibur. And, with the short term issue of opportunity, the price might be even cheaper than a 2nd. To be honest, I think Jones has the capability to be the WR2 or WR3 from the 2006 draft class. This is why I think he is a definite buy low. Bloom knows him well and did a good job of describing Jones' talent and upside.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I don't know what is not to like about Jacoby Jones. I thought he was the most impressive of all rookie WRs this year in preseason. His injury set him back, because at the time, he was already threatening to take the starting WR job and run with it. I think that is even more impressive when you consider the huge difference in competition between his college and major colleges, then consider how big his jump was to the NFL. I think he had farther to go than all other WRs in this draft. Who knows what would have happened if he hadn't gotten hurt.

Had he went to a major college, he very well could have been a first round pick. I'm another buyer.

 

[Madscott]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Was there anything of substance you'd like to add to this?You're obviously quite low on him but you haven't stated a single tangible or even completely fabricated reason for it. Oh, except that he wasn't a first rounder. Because nothing of value ever came out of the other rounds of the draft...

He does state a reason, draft position. And while anomalies do happen, there is a reason they are anomalies.

But draft position is deceptive in Jacoby's case. He went to a D2 school, so his stock was clearly already discounted about a round or so. The fact that Jacoby went in the early third tells me that he was basically a first round physical talent, because you have to be that impressive to get in the first day as a player from such a small school. Also - two out of the top 5 WRs in most league (Owens and Housh) went later than Jones 73rd pick draft position. And Colston. And Marshall. And Driver. And Ward. And Coles. And Hackett. Guys like Jennings, Boldin, and Branch went in the 50s and 60s. Honestly, I think WR is one of the positions that its most beneficial to ignore draft status and instead, just watch the guy play and form your opinion that way (along with QB).

Spot on Bloom. Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan had him on weekly for weeks leading up to the draft on their NFL radio show. The guy has a dynamic personality to say the least. The big reason he didn't make D1 from the get go was that he was 5'7", 165 lbs. coming out of high school. He obviously grew up into the phyiscal specimen he is now during his college years but he said that it was great for him to actually start college being smaller as he had to learn to get away from corners that were physically bigger than him. He has the knowledge to play small or big if you will, though he obviously is still learning. I think the guy has tremendous upside.

 

[beto]

This guy has all the potential of Brandon Marshall, I say a 2nd would be a bargain for him.

 

[msommer]

This guy has all the potential of Brandon Marshall, I say a 2nd would be a bargain for him.

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[msommer]

This guy has all the potential of Brandon Marshall, I say a 2nd would be a bargain for him.

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[Schrute]

Jacoby is probably the most over-rated dynasty prospect i've seen in quite some time.People act like it's probable he is going to become a top 10 WR down the road. It could happen, but if it was probable he would have been drafted higher.he's a longshot to ever become a solid starting fantasy WR.He's good to have if you can get him dirt cheap, but many are acting like he's worth investing a lot in.

Was there anything of substance you'd like to add to this?You're obviously quite low on him but you haven't stated a single tangible or even completely fabricated reason for it. Oh, except that he wasn't a first rounder. Because nothing of value ever came out of the other rounds of the draft...

He does state a reason, draft position. And while anomalies do happen, there is a reason they are anomalies.

But draft position is deceptive in Jacoby's case. He went to a D2 school, so his stock was clearly already discounted about a round or so. The fact that Jacoby went in the early third tells me that he was basically a first round physical talent, because you have to be that impressive to get in the first day as a player from such a small school. Also - two out of the top 5 WRs in most league (Owens and Housh) went later than Jones 73rd pick draft position. And Colston. And Marshall. And Driver. And Ward. And Coles. And Hackett. Guys like Jennings, Boldin, and Branch went in the 50s and 60s. Honestly, I think WR is one of the positions that its most beneficial to ignore draft status and instead, just watch the guy play and form your opinion that way (along with QB).

oh... and

 

[Tanner9919]

Not wanting to be giving subscriber content away, but Jeff Tea for the Tillerman was pretty damn confident in Jones becoming an out-and-out stud opposite Andre Johnson.We've had plenty of discussion about Jones's potential ever since he was drafted (the next Colston one day, small hands the next), but nobody has been this definitive about him being a stud - certainly not recently.So what's changed that I've missed?

Owen Daniels is the guy you want, not Jones.

 

[chook]

Not wanting to be giving subscriber content away, but Jeff Tea for the Tillerman was pretty damn confident in Jones becoming an out-and-out stud opposite Andre Johnson.We've had plenty of discussion about Jones's potential ever since he was drafted (the next Colston one day, small hands the next), but nobody has been this definitive about him being a stud - certainly not recently.So what's changed that I've missed?

Why? The reasoning is that Jacoby has great potential. I do think he is a great buy low. Many fantasy owners have given up on Jones with Davis and Walter playing well. Jacoby Jones has been nicked up this season, but has the "it" factor, imo. The article does say that for the price of a 2008 2nd rounder, Jones is a buy. If I had a late 2nd round rookie pick, I would definitely think that is a great deal. I do not see receivers in this draft (at that draft position) that are of the same calibur. And, with the short term issue of opportunity, the price might be even cheaper than a 2nd. To be honest, I think Jones has the capability to be the WR2 or WR3 from the 2006 draft class. This is why I think he is a definite buy low. Bloom knows him well and did a good job of describing Jones' talent and upside.

Thanks for the explanation Jeff.