I thought he looked rock solid. His spin move was great. He was patient looking for holes, and when they opened up he exploded. He showed solid power. Did not really get to see his break away speed, but with that few of touches that is not unusal. And he showed pretty decent hands. If he would have been able to reel in that one ball that was overthrown, it would have been really impressive. Not the next coming of Barry Sanders, but still could be one of the better backs in the league.
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I'm glad you mentioned the word "hype" in here. I actually bought into the hype (regarding his talent) the day the Lions drafted Best. After seeing 2 games and 3 practices, the hype has turned into reality...this kid can flat out play and looks like a stud already. That part honestly does not surprise me so hype isn't really the main reason for this thread and for my thoughts on moving Best much higher on my draft board. The important thing (and what held me back before) is the way I thought the Lions would use Best. Before preseason started, I thought Best would get about 180-200 carries and 40-50 receptions. Now, after seeing how the Lions used him in the first 2 preseason games and how much better the offense looked when Best was in the game, I'm convinced he will get significantly more touches than I originally thought. I'm upping my projected carries to 250 and even that may be conservative. The Lions have stated all along that they were not going to limit Best. I thought it could be coachspeak, but they have played Best a good 80% or more of the snaps when the starters were in, including a couple of plays from the 2 yard line in the first game. Basically, this thread did not come about because of the hype of the first 2 games. I knew Best could play. It's more a change in opinion in how the Lions will use him and I think he will be a 3-down back with Kevin Smith spelling him for a series here and there. I also do not think anyone will vulture TDs and that is another big factor.
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
I just had a draft last night (12 team) and was delighted to get Best at pick 5.04 as my RB#3 (Flex). I took him over Forte who I got later anyway. You can start a 2nd QB at Flex in this league so 5.04 probably compares to about 7 or 8 slots earlier in a league that does not allow a QB at Flex.
Just wanted to provide some real-time update on his "market value" as the "Best Hype" was already reved up, yet he still seemed to represent some good upside.
Just wanted to provide some real-time update on his "market value" as the "Best Hype" was already reved up, yet he still seemed to represent some good upside.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I got him as my RB 3 in my 21-year old redraft league yesterday before the game (Best, Reggie Bush, Ryan Grant and Ray Rice - 12 team league), and I'm pretty thrilled to have him on my roster. I've also got him as my RB 2 on the Footballguys.com staff IDP league (Best, Michael Bush/Darren McFadden, Chester Taylor), and now that we've seen him in action I'm feeling increasingly comfortable with him as RB 2 there (it is a 1 PT PPR league). The concussions are a legitimate concern, especially with the (rightfully) increased vigilance of the league on that issue - for that reason I feel more comfortable with him as my RB 3 than RB 2, but I do expect a lot of big-yardage plays/long TDs from him so I'm willing to accept that increased injury risk. I've also got Burleson on both those teams as a WR3/4 - IMO the Detroit Offense is vastly improved this year due to smart drafting/FA moves, and I expect the defense to still be sub-par-to-mediocre at maximum. So there should be a lot of fantasy points on this offensive unit this year - I want my slice of those for sure. I'm excited about Detroit's offense for the first time in a decade, basically! GL in your drafts everyone!Mark W.
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
shhh better that wayNFL.com has highlights.. but Best doesnt make it.Mortimer Ichabod said:
Shutout
Footballguy
I gobbled him up in two of my 5 leagues I had a chance to get him in. I'm probably hopefully biased but the more I watch this develop and then see him go out on the field and produce like he has, it reminds me of MJD when he came out. When MJD came out he was in the shadow of bush and everyone kept saying "talented BUT..."and it was like nobody could get past his height. It was if people HAD to find a problem with this guy and of course the rest is history. The only difference i see at this point is that Best didn't have someone he had to sit behind to bide his time. I think when we look back, People who took Matthews will be happy and get what they expect, people that took Spiller are going to be frustrated, and the people who took Best are going to feel like they won this RB draft.shhh better that wayNFL.com has highlights.. but Best doesnt make it.Mortimer Ichabod said:
billymays
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I think the cat is getting out of the bag on Best. I had an auction draft last night. I drafted him there, but I paid well over the FBG projected value. I obviously think he will be worth it though.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
I managed to get him in a 3 player keeper league at 5.01.
My keepers were Brees, AJ and Dwill.
I also picked Crabtree at 4.12, Bradshaw at 6.12 and TO at 7.01 fwiw.
My keepers were Brees, AJ and Dwill.
I also picked Crabtree at 4.12, Bradshaw at 6.12 and TO at 7.01 fwiw.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
ShortStackofPancakes
Footballguy
Yahoo just bumped him up there pre-season rankings drastically, all the way to 26th overall. So if you're playing in yahoo leagues I doubt he'll be available after the 3rd round.
Sounds like he is picking up the offense pretty quickly as well as understanding blocking. More good news for Best owners.
Lion's coach impressed with Best
Lion's coach impressed with Best
Fantaholic
Footballguy
About 2 weeks ago I was confident that I would land Best in all of my leagues this season. Now, I am almost sure that he will not be on any of my teams this year.
Here's to keeping the next best secret, a secret until draft day.
Here's to keeping the next best secret, a secret until draft day.
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i may have to take him late 2nd round. He will be a top 5 RB.About 2 weeks ago I was confident that I would land Best in all of my leagues this season. Now, I am almost sure that he will not be on any of my teams this year. Here's to keeping the next best secret, a secret until draft day.
CalBear
Footballguy
Some good runs. He danced a bit on the goal line play, but mostly was very solid in his decisions and cuts. The best run is at 2:50, where the play is designed to go right, but he sees daylight in the center of the line and fluidly splits the defenders for a 7-yard gain. That sort of fluid running is what will make him successful in the NFL; he can make adjustments at full speed and keep heading upfield. I liked how, except on the goal-line play, he finished every run going forward.It's pre-season, but he looks pretty much like he looked at Cal. The defenders are better, but Best is a special talent.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Just took him at 3.11, 12 team league with .5 PPR
TeamSnooki
Footballguy
Got him at 5.11 on Saturday.
Then I did a little Irish Jig around the room.
Then I did a little Irish Jig around the room.
LawFitz
Footballguy
What % of the team's cap was that?
This year one of my leagues drafted unusually early due to the fact a couple of the long time members were moving out of town the first week of August. Our draft was held on August 1st. 10 man PPR
I was able to snag Best in the 8th, Bradshaw in the 10th, and Arian Foster in the 12th.
Not to mention I got Matthews in the 3rd and Charles in the 4th. Yes I did get lucky here but I also did alot of homework when you take into account we drafted so early. It looks like I'm going to have RB depth up the wazoo.
I have 2 drafts this upcoming weekend.....I'm targetting Best in the 4th round, maybe the 5th depending on how many RB's are drafted in the first 4 rounds by the other members.
I was able to snag Best in the 8th, Bradshaw in the 10th, and Arian Foster in the 12th.
Not to mention I got Matthews in the 3rd and Charles in the 4th. Yes I did get lucky here but I also did alot of homework when you take into account we drafted so early. It looks like I'm going to have RB depth up the wazoo.
I have 2 drafts this upcoming weekend.....I'm targetting Best in the 4th round, maybe the 5th depending on how many RB's are drafted in the first 4 rounds by the other members.
dmac37
Footballguy
$60 in a $400 cap league
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Please keep all of us updated on how your drafts go. TIA.
LawFitz
Footballguy
15% wow. He's definitely pricier than I'd thought. Obviously that number is going to be relative to scoring/starting parameters and very league specific, but still. That is a legit %. I have no doubt that he'll got for about that in my upcoming auction too. It's gonna take some major investment to get this guy. Upside is there, but man we are still talking about the Lions.
TheGrimReaper
Footballguy
I have him in 4 of 6 leagues to date. Prior to the most current draft, was able to get him(redraft) mid 4th to early 5th..........not anymore...
Im in a 12 team WCOFF style...with all intent to nab him at the 3.06 (was confident he would get nabbed no later than the 3/4 turn).
Was picked at the 3.02 <<
Im in a 12 team WCOFF style...with all intent to nab him at the 3.06 (was confident he would get nabbed no later than the 3/4 turn).
Was picked at the 3.02 <<
LawFitz
Footballguy
The words out on the street, boys. If you want Best, you're now gonna really have to pay to play!!!
TheGrimReaper
Footballguy
In auction (WCOFF style) was paying low 40's in early August. Just got him for 48 (400 cap)...but have seen him go as high as 59 in another recent auction.
theoneandonly
Footballguy
Best just went bottom of the 2nd pick 11 in my 12 team 100.00 non ppr 2rb3wr1flex. Doubt we will be seeing him fall anymore in the upcoming drafts. Was really looking forward to grabbing him as a steal but looks like hes on alot of players radars.
dmac37
Footballguy
My mistake it was $66 not $60 but now it is $68!
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
Mods please delete this thread.
rizzler
Footballguy
hype. and team. that is all.
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
FYP.All aboard the Happy Hype Train!!I was lucky enough to snap up Best in my main keeper league's draft, which was held the day before preseason started.
WVU Alum
Footballguy
Has a rookie back ever finished top 5?i may have to take him late 2nd round. He will be a top 5 RB.About 2 weeks ago I was confident that I would land Best in all of my leagues this season. Now, I am almost sure that he will not be on any of my teams this year. Here's to keeping the next best secret, a secret until draft day.
rizzler
Footballguy
my money is on yes. multiple times yesprob edge, portis, sanders etcHas a rookie back ever finished top 5?i may have to take him late 2nd round. He will be a top 5 RB.About 2 weeks ago I was confident that I would land Best in all of my leagues this season. Now, I am almost sure that he will not be on any of my teams this year. Here's to keeping the next best secret, a secret until draft day.
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Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
Off the top of my head...maybe Portis?Oh and definitely Edge James.Has a rookie back ever finished top 5?i may have to take him late 2nd round. He will be a top 5 RB.About 2 weeks ago I was confident that I would land Best in all of my leagues this season. Now, I am almost sure that he will not be on any of my teams this year. Here's to keeping the next best secret, a secret until draft day.
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WVU Alum
Footballguy
Just looked. None last year but most recently Forte, year before that Peterson. Stopped looking after that.my money is on yes. multiple times yesHas a rookie back ever finished top 5?i may have to take him late 2nd round. He will be a top 5 RB.About 2 weeks ago I was confident that I would land Best in all of my leagues this season. Now, I am almost sure that he will not be on any of my teams this year. Here's to keeping the next best secret, a secret until draft day.
Love this kid's talent and he's in a good situation...the Lions are going to give him the ball alot.
With all that said....is anyone concerned about his schedule or am I overthinking here? If you end up taking Calvin in the 2nd round would you pair him with Best on the same fantasy team?
With all that said....is anyone concerned about his schedule or am I overthinking here? If you end up taking Calvin in the 2nd round would you pair him with Best on the same fantasy team?
bulger2holt
Footballguy
It's funny you say that because that's where I am targeting him unless Benson or Grant are there. Who did you take at 1:11 and 2:2 ? And at 4:2 and 5:11 ?I am looking at wr/wr/Best/Spiller/Bradshaw/Knox (PPR)
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Well I made a 3 trades predraft and it was a 3rd round reversal where I drew the 12th pick. I moved up in the middle rounds with the intent of grabbing Best and Finley and I got both. Its a start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF league. 1.09 WR Calvin Johnson2.11 RB DeAngelo Williams3.01 QB Peyton Manning3.11 RB Jahvid Best4.06 TE Jermichael Finley6.09 WR Pierre Garcon7.01 RB. M. Bush 9.01 WR D. Driver10+ a lot of WR's (Murphy, J. Jones, McCluster, Burleson)I was planning WR/WR, but by 2.11 the best WR left was Colston. In general the WR's flew off the board in this league earlier than I though they would. I was hoping to get S. Moss at 7.01 but he went a full round earlier.
kremenull
Footballguy
Are you talking redraft or dynasty here?In dynasty, people who took Mathews are going to be ecstatic......people who took Spiller are going to be ecstatic, also.....people who took Best are going to be, let's see, ecstatic.....I gobbled him up in two of my 5 leagues I had a chance to get him in. I'm probably hopefully biased but the more I watch this develop and then see him go out on the field and produce like he has, it reminds me of MJD when he came out. When MJD came out he was in the shadow of bush and everyone kept saying "talented BUT..."and it was like nobody could get past his height. It was if people HAD to find a problem with this guy and of course the rest is history. The only difference i see at this point is that Best didn't have someone he had to sit behind to bide his time. I think when we look back, People who took Matthews will be happy and get what they expect, people that took Spiller are going to be frustrated, and the people who took Best are going to feel like they won this RB draft.shhh better that wayNFL.com has highlights.. but Best doesnt make it.
All 3 RBs should be very good, maybe one or two may be great. I would not bet against Spiller being successful.
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benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Size....injury history....but yeah I have NO IDEA WHY...
Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
Better team better schedule. Other than that I'm lost as well.
http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_...=fantasy-264939
First Down: Jahvid Best is 2010's version of Ray Rice
By Brad Evans
A decade ago last December, Barry Sanders performed his last trick in Detroit. Known for his mystifying cutbacks and spellbinding spin-moves, the legendary master of illusion shockingly disappeared into thin air. Though still in peak physical condition and performing at an All-Pro level at age 30, the great Houdini decided to retire his cape and wand. The Lions’ culture of losing was too much to bear.
Since Sanders’ departure, several average, generally ineffective rushers have come and gone, failing to captivate silver-clad supporters and Tecmo Bowl enthusiasts’ attention. James Stewart and Kevin Jones(notes) each amassed noteworthy seasons in 2000 and 2004 respectively, but neither was able to establish perennial consistency. Kevin Smith(notes), who coincidentally flirted with Sanders’ collegiate rushing record while at Central Florida, showed potential during his first two campaigns. Unfortunately, injuries, a general lack of pizzaz and Detroit’s record-setting futility severely hindered him – a classic case of wrong place, wrong time.
Enter Jahvid Best(notes).
The first-round pick from Cal without a doubt is the organization’s most electric rusher since Sanders. Intelligent, versatile and blazing fast – he ran the fastest 40-yard dash among RBs at the NFL combine (4.35) – Best possesses sensational skills. Over his final two seasons in Berkley, he averaged an incredible 7.6 yards per touch. He may be the primary reason why the Lions finally crawl out from the winless depths of the NFC North.
Jim Schwartz most certainly agrees.
After drafting Best 30th overall last April, the candid coach provided arguably the finest quote about a recent draftee ever. From Yahoo!’s own Michael Silver:
Best was the only other player in the draft Detroit’s brass regarded as an elite runner, and I knew Schwartz wanted him badly. In January, he’d confided to me that he coveted the dynamic breakaway threat to a degree that some might find unhealthy.
“Some people watch adult videos on their computer,” Schwartz had told me. “I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going.”
For the fantasy masses, Best’s talents and situation are unquestionably arousing. His ankle-breaking moves, between the tackles fearlessness and playbook acuity have him firmly entrenched as the Lions starter. With an emerging passing attack spearheaded by Matthew Stafford(notes) and Calvin Johnson(notes) and an improving offensive line, the rookie should yield a bounty of riches in almost every format.
Granted it’s only two preseason games, but Best has definitely looked the part, averaging 6.1 yards per touch. As Schwartz noted after Detroit’s last exhibition effort, the rookie impressively “hasn’t blinked.” The quick study has adjusted rapidly to the pro game.
Critics will argue his injury-plagued past is reason enough to circumvent the youngster in drafts. However, keep in mind Adrian Peterson and Aaron Rodgers(notes) entered the league with similar concerns. Both have proven durable. Additional contentions over Best’s unsavory Reggie Bush-labeled role, Detroit’s below average offensive line, deeply dug scoreboard holes and second-toughest RB schedule will also be voiced.
Let the naysayers talk.
Yes, Best will be used in a variety of roles. Against Denver he saw action as a slot receiver, flanker and Wildcat quarterback. Schwartz has designed plays for the explosive runner to operate in space. But unlike his New Orleans comparison, he will rack at least 18-22 touches per contest, refreshing to see in an age dominated by platoons. Offensive coordinator Scott Linehan isn’t a fan of timeshares.
Based on workload alone, he will greatly exceed his current 42.2 ADP (RB19), especially in PPR formats. Drafting him ahead of Beanie Wells(notes) and Knowshon Moreno(notes) is a savvy move. This time next year, owners will be contemplating Best in the late first round. After all, he’s only an “a” short of being a BeAst.
With Best toting the load, magical feelings may soon return to Detroit.
Fearless Forecast (15 games): 228 carries, 1,048 rushing yards, 48 receptions, 394 receiving yards, 9 total touchdowns
First Down: Jahvid Best is 2010's version of Ray Rice
By Brad Evans
A decade ago last December, Barry Sanders performed his last trick in Detroit. Known for his mystifying cutbacks and spellbinding spin-moves, the legendary master of illusion shockingly disappeared into thin air. Though still in peak physical condition and performing at an All-Pro level at age 30, the great Houdini decided to retire his cape and wand. The Lions’ culture of losing was too much to bear.
Since Sanders’ departure, several average, generally ineffective rushers have come and gone, failing to captivate silver-clad supporters and Tecmo Bowl enthusiasts’ attention. James Stewart and Kevin Jones(notes) each amassed noteworthy seasons in 2000 and 2004 respectively, but neither was able to establish perennial consistency. Kevin Smith(notes), who coincidentally flirted with Sanders’ collegiate rushing record while at Central Florida, showed potential during his first two campaigns. Unfortunately, injuries, a general lack of pizzaz and Detroit’s record-setting futility severely hindered him – a classic case of wrong place, wrong time.
Enter Jahvid Best(notes).
The first-round pick from Cal without a doubt is the organization’s most electric rusher since Sanders. Intelligent, versatile and blazing fast – he ran the fastest 40-yard dash among RBs at the NFL combine (4.35) – Best possesses sensational skills. Over his final two seasons in Berkley, he averaged an incredible 7.6 yards per touch. He may be the primary reason why the Lions finally crawl out from the winless depths of the NFC North.
Jim Schwartz most certainly agrees.
After drafting Best 30th overall last April, the candid coach provided arguably the finest quote about a recent draftee ever. From Yahoo!’s own Michael Silver:
Best was the only other player in the draft Detroit’s brass regarded as an elite runner, and I knew Schwartz wanted him badly. In January, he’d confided to me that he coveted the dynamic breakaway threat to a degree that some might find unhealthy.
“Some people watch adult videos on their computer,” Schwartz had told me. “I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going.”
For the fantasy masses, Best’s talents and situation are unquestionably arousing. His ankle-breaking moves, between the tackles fearlessness and playbook acuity have him firmly entrenched as the Lions starter. With an emerging passing attack spearheaded by Matthew Stafford(notes) and Calvin Johnson(notes) and an improving offensive line, the rookie should yield a bounty of riches in almost every format.
Granted it’s only two preseason games, but Best has definitely looked the part, averaging 6.1 yards per touch. As Schwartz noted after Detroit’s last exhibition effort, the rookie impressively “hasn’t blinked.” The quick study has adjusted rapidly to the pro game.
Critics will argue his injury-plagued past is reason enough to circumvent the youngster in drafts. However, keep in mind Adrian Peterson and Aaron Rodgers(notes) entered the league with similar concerns. Both have proven durable. Additional contentions over Best’s unsavory Reggie Bush-labeled role, Detroit’s below average offensive line, deeply dug scoreboard holes and second-toughest RB schedule will also be voiced.
Let the naysayers talk.
Yes, Best will be used in a variety of roles. Against Denver he saw action as a slot receiver, flanker and Wildcat quarterback. Schwartz has designed plays for the explosive runner to operate in space. But unlike his New Orleans comparison, he will rack at least 18-22 touches per contest, refreshing to see in an age dominated by platoons. Offensive coordinator Scott Linehan isn’t a fan of timeshares.
Based on workload alone, he will greatly exceed his current 42.2 ADP (RB19), especially in PPR formats. Drafting him ahead of Beanie Wells(notes) and Knowshon Moreno(notes) is a savvy move. This time next year, owners will be contemplating Best in the late first round. After all, he’s only an “a” short of being a BeAst.
With Best toting the load, magical feelings may soon return to Detroit.
Fearless Forecast (15 games): 228 carries, 1,048 rushing yards, 48 receptions, 394 receiving yards, 9 total touchdowns
ROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
Could you break down the improvements Detroit made to their OL over the past year? Thanks
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