January 6, 2022 - what will happen (if anything) (1 Viewer)

[ekbeats]

Tim has similar gut feelings

Oof.  You got me there.

 

[Sabertooth]

Let's pretend you didn't already know this: 

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=antifa%2Fblm+attack+government+buildings

I'll wait for the excuses to be made and goal posts to be moved. 

Ok I clicked in.  First article was about arrests being made regards to a Las Vegas incident where fireworks were set off and paint was spattered at a courthouse.  I fully support this arrest but a courthouse is a courthouse, not a seat of government  I was unaware of the Vegas incident.  

Second one was a Department of Homeland Security building.  Which hey again...give those attackers whatever they got coming.  

Third one was more interesting in that it was a group protesting masks entering a building in Oregon with Guns.  However  I think it was right wingers and not left wingers. 

I stopped there.  I will definitely agree with you that government buildings had been attacked and vandalized.  Further I will say I how every single one of the guilty is found and charged.  All the way on up to the financers of BLM and Antifa if they were involved. 

I still say also, importantly none of those buildings were full of elected officials trying to accommodate the peaceful transfer of power for the United States government at the very time of the attack though.  They simply are not the same things bud.  

 

[Sabertooth]

That's an outright lie and you know it.  There is ZERO proof of that.

However, BLM/Antifa killed at least 4 people in the CHOP/CHAZ zone (that we know of). 

They were literally chanting it guy.  They had weapons and motivation.  They were just unsuccessful.  Did you not see the cop leading them away from the Senate?  This guy?  

 

[BladeRunner]

Ok I clicked in.  First article was about arrests being made regards to a Las Vegas incident where fireworks were set off and paint was spattered at a courthouse.  I fully support this arrest but a courthouse is a courthouse, not a seat of government  I was unaware of the Vegas incident.  

Second one was a Department of Homeland Security building.  Which hey again...give those attackers whatever they got coming.  

Third one was more interesting in that it was a group protesting masks entering a building in Oregon with Guns.  However  I think it was right wingers and not left wingers. 

I stopped there.  I will definitely agree with you that government buildings had been attacked and vandalized.  Further I will say I how every single one of the guilty is found and charged.  All the way on up to the financers of BLM and Antifa if they were involved. 

I still say also, importantly none of those buildings were full of elected officials trying to accommodate the peaceful transfer of power for the United States government at the very time of the attack though.  They simply are not the same things bud.  

Y'know, I thought things were going great up until the last paragraph where you started making excuses.  You really think those BLM/Antifa people who attacked those buildings knew there were no people in them?  Nobody works late?  overtime?  I think that just an excuse you seem to be telling yourself to try and draw a distinction where there is none.

I just don't see them as that different. 

 

[BladeRunner]

They were literally chanting it guy.  They had weapons and motivation.  They were just unsuccessful.  Did you not see the cop leading them away from the Senate?  This guy?  

That link you provides shows nobody armed except the cop.  And no one is chanting about killing anyone.  Even the video inside the link shows no one armed.  Nor can I even make out any chants of "kill them" either.

Dude, WTH?  This actually proves MY point.  I guess I should say "thanks".  

 

[KarmaPolice]

Ok I clicked in.  First article was about arrests being made regards to a Las Vegas incident where fireworks were set off and paint was spattered at a courthouse.  I fully support this arrest but a courthouse is a courthouse, not a seat of government  I was unaware of the Vegas incident.  

Second one was a Department of Homeland Security building.  Which hey again...give those attackers whatever they got coming.  

Third one was more interesting in that it was a group protesting masks entering a building in Oregon with Guns.  However  I think it was right wingers and not left wingers. 

I stopped there.  I will definitely agree with you that government buildings had been attacked and vandalized.  Further I will say I how every single one of the guilty is found and charged.  All the way on up to the financers of BLM and Antifa if they were involved. 

I still say also, importantly none of those buildings were full of elected officials trying to accommodate the peaceful transfer of power for the United States government at the very time of the attack though.  They simply are not the same things bud.  

At the end of the day, this is the right statement.   Doesn't stop a certain handful of posters "but BLM!"ing up a ton of threads though.  

Overall we need to do a better job of discussing each topic on their own.   

 

[BladeRunner]

At the end of the day, this is the right statement.   Doesn't stop a certain handful of posters "but BLM!"ing up a ton of threads though.  

Overall we need to do a better job of discussing each topic on their own.   

Well, as much as you WISH that were true - and let me tell you that simply saying it does not make it true - it isn't.  They are tied together at the hip with the only difference that BLM/Antifa caused way more destruction, violence and death than 1/6 ever did.  I mean, it's not even close.  BLM/Antifa wins hand down. 

Of course, that won't stop you and a handful of posters who continue to pretend BLM/Antifa was a "peaceful protest".  

 

[RavenFan]

Well, as much as you WISH that were true - and let me tell you that simply saying it does not make it true - it isn't.  They are tied together at the hip with the only difference that BLM/Antifa caused way more destruction, violence and death than 1/6 ever did.  I mean, it's not even close.  BLM/Antifa wins hand down. 

Of course, that won't stop you and a handful of posters who continue to pretend BLM/Antifa was a "peaceful protest".  

Riots are a sad part of the US's history.  Have happened and been violent and with property destruction and looting throughout our history.

What's not part of our history until until January 6th is the attempted delay or reversal of the peaceful transition of power in this country.

If you can't see this then perhaps you should re-look at things. 

 

[BladeRunner]

Riots are a sad part of the US's history.  Have happened and been violent and with property destruction and looting throughout our history.

What's not part of our history until until January 6th is the attempted delay or reversal of the peaceful transition of power in this country.

If you can't see this then perhaps you should re-look at things. 

Is revisionist history also part of our history?  Because you're pretty good at it. 

Because you seem to be forgetting the fact that BLM/Antifa attacked local, state and Federal buildings during their rampage across America for almost two years.

I would suggest you take the blinders off off and start looking at things as how they are and not how you wish them to be.

 

[RavenFan]

Is revisionist history also part of our history?  Because you're pretty good at it. 

Because you seem to be forgetting the fact that BLM/Antifa attacked local, state and Federal buildings during their rampage across America for almost two years.

I would suggest you take the blinders off off and start looking at things as how they are and not how you wish them to be.

So, BLM was trying to prevent the peaceful transition of power for the first time in our nation's history?

Holy moly friend.  Many many many riots have involved government buildings.  How many others targeted the VP with shouts of hang him simply so he wouldn't certify the votes as is his legal responsibility.

Sorry friend, the two events, while both bad, aren't in the same stratosphere of significance to our nation. 

But I'm sure you'll find some false equivalency. 

 

[BladeRunner]

So, BLM was trying to prevent the peaceful transition of power for the first time in our nation's history?

Holy moly friend.  Many many many riots have involved government buildings.  How many others targeted the VP with shouts of hang him simply so he wouldn't certify the votes as is his legal responsibility.

Sorry friend, the two events, while both bad, aren't in the same stratosphere of significance to our nation. 

But I'm sure you'll find some false equivalency. 

"False Equivalency" claims seem to be the go to phrase when you don't want to face the hard truths.   Goalposts moved, I guess.

Once again, you should see things for what they are, not what you WISH them to be. 

 

[zoonation]

Riots are a sad part of the US's history.  Have happened and been violent and with property destruction and looting throughout our history.

What's not part of our history until until January 6th is the attempted delay or reversal of the peaceful transition of power in this country.

If you can't see this then perhaps you should re-look at things. 

Put him on ignore.  Really enhances the forum experience.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

Riots are a sad part of the US's history.  Have happened and been violent and with property destruction and looting throughout our history.

What's not part of our history until until January 6th is the attempted delay or reversal of the peaceful transition of power in this country.

If you can't see this then perhaps you should re-look at things. 

"tied at the hip"?    

Like you are saying they are alike in that they started off as protests and turned violent and destructive.   That's about the extent of it.   Otherwise, different set of people involved, different reasons for being there, etc.    

But BR hates BLM, so he has to inject that into a ton of threads.  

 

[BladeRunner]

"tied at the hip"?    

Like you are saying they are alike in that they started off as protests and turned violent and destructive.   That's about the extent of it.   Otherwise, different set of people involved, different reasons for being there, etc.    

But BR hates BLM, so he has to inject that into a ton of threads.  

Correction: BLM/Antifa.  They're tied at the hip too.  Can't have one without the other.  Actually, you can't have BLM without Antifa.  Whenever they show up, Antifa is right behind them. 

You should hate them too for the violence, murder and destruction they've done in this country.  But, of course, you'll just pretend that never happened because.....virtue points.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Lol.  "you'll just pretend that never happened.."   

We get it, BR - doesn't matter how many times it's said in thread that people were against the violence and destruction, it's not enough for you.   

 

[Sabertooth]

"False Equivalency" claims seem to be the go to phrase when you don't want to face the hard truths.   Goalposts moved, I guess.

Once again, you should see things for what they are, not what you WISH them to be. 

False Equivalency is the go to phrase when somebody is comparing apples to oranges, yes.   

 

[BladeRunner]

I think they knew Mike Pence wasn't in there transferring power from one president to another.    Your glossing over of this little detail tells me you won't have an honest discourse.  Which is fine.  If you can't tell the difference between buildings and job functions, I don't really see a need to further this discussion.  You are trying to be obtuse here.

Yeah, the only one that's being obtuse is you. You keep moving the goalposts. Every time I disprove one of your points you feverishly come up with some other nonsense.

That's fine if you don't want to go any further. Frankly if I were you, I wouldn't either with the flimsy stuff you're coming up with.

The fact of the matter is that you need to amp this up to level 11 because you got nothing else. Trump lives in your brain and in the brains of other Democrats and he has more power over you guys than he does in the GOP.

 

[BladeRunner]

False Equivalency is the go to phrase when somebody is comparing apples to oranges, yes.   

I can only lead you to the water. I can't make you drink it.

You have some kind of investment in not wanting to see things how they are. You'd rather see them as how you wish them to be.

And despite all evidence to the contrary, you're going to continue to believe the talking points. All I can do is try to make you see truth.

 

[AAABatteries]

From your lips to Gods ears

Defintely would consider voting Haley in a primary just so Trump would explode losing to a woman.  It won’t happen but fun to think about.

 

[starks]

That's an outright lie and you know it.  There is ZERO evidence

I saw a guy beat a police officer with a flag pole on the head. I mean, just google it. Or don’t. 

 

[dkp993]

I saw a guy beat a police officer with a flag pole on the head. I mean, just google it. Or don’t. 

That was time and breath (metaphorically) that you will never get back.