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Jared from Subway got what he deserved (1 Viewer)

Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
In all honesty, Willie, I if I thought I were a suspect in this kind of investigation, I would not say ANYTHING without clearing it with my lawyers to start. No. friggin.' way. This is where I get into an area where I have ZERO experience managing my own image AND zero experience in dealing with the investigators and, really, ZERO knowledge about what is in my own best interest, taking everything into account. So his silence tells me, if anything, that he isn't as dumb as he looks.

 
is Jared being charged or under investigation? I'm way behind.
Not charged. Under investigation. CBS news said a law enforcement source confirmed to the network that he is a suspect in the child porn investigation (although no official announcement yet).

 
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Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
In all honesty, Willie, I if I thought I were a suspect in this kind of investigation, I would not say ANYTHING without clearing it with my lawyers to start. No. friggin.' way. This is where I get into an area where I have ZERO experience managing my own image AND zero experience in dealing with the investigators and, really, ZERO knowledge about what is in my own best interest, taking everything into account. So his silence tells me, if anything, that he isn't as dumb as he looks.
IF you were 100% innocent wouldn't you assume that very shortly your people would at the very least be issuing a statement in no uncertain terms saying that you have nothing to do with anything being investigated? You'd be OK sitting in silence as your whole world came crumbling down around you because you're being investigated for something you have nothing to do with? Do we even know if his attorney was present when the FBI showed up that morning? Do we know he didn't say anything to them?

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
Who cares about this topic. You're killing a legacy here.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
Who cares about this topic. You're killing a legacy here.
Chick fil a legacy?

 
Willy, he's probably guilty but whether he makes a statement not isn't a great indicator of

anything. Just stop.
Look, all i said was if you were being investigated for a heinous crime that you had absolutely nothing to do with and you had a mmulti-million dollar livelihood that was based on your public image, you wouldn't just sit back silently. That's all i said.
What if it's not that simple. What if he really does have TONS of porn...the legal kind but still it wrecks his public image? If that's the case,

maybe he's listening to his lawyer's advice.
If he just had regular porn the fbi wouldn't be raiding his house.
:wall:
 
Willy, he's probably guilty but whether he makes a statement not isn't a great indicator of

anything. Just stop.
Look, all i said was if you were being investigated for a heinous crime that you had absolutely nothing to do with and you had a mmulti-million dollar livelihood that was based on your public image, you wouldn't just sit back silently. That's all i said.
What if it's not that simple. What if he really does have TONS of porn...the legal kind but still it wrecks his public image? If that's the case,

maybe he's listening to his lawyer's advice.
If he just had regular porn the fbi wouldn't be raiding his house.
:wall:
I've already amended the statement.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
Id probably do the same as you. The difference is, I don't assume someone is guilty or innocent based on what the decide to do publicly.
 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
Id probably do the same as you. The difference is, I don't assume someone is guilty or innocent based on what the decide to do publicly.
The world is assuming.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
I would too. If I knew I was innocent no way do I sit back in silence.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
Id probably do the same as you. The difference is, I don't assume someone is guilty or innocent based on what the decide to do publicly.
The world is assuming.
I'm unassuming.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
I would too. If I knew I was innocent no way do I sit back in silence.
No human being would. Only the PR experts in this thread would.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
In all honesty, Willie, I if I thought I were a suspect in this kind of investigation, I would not say ANYTHING without clearing it with my lawyers to start. No. friggin.' way. This is where I get into an area where I have ZERO experience managing my own image AND zero experience in dealing with the investigators and, really, ZERO knowledge about what is in my own best interest, taking everything into account. So his silence tells me, if anything, that he isn't as dumb as he looks.
Why wouldn't you say ANYTHING? What could possibly be wrong with a completely innocent person publicly denying a heinous accusation?

 
Jarred: "I've never viewed, owned or solicited child pornography, period. I will fully cooperate with the FBI in their investigation."

Lawyers, how exactly could a startement like this come back to bite an innocent man?

 
Jarred: "I've never viewed, owned or solicited child pornography, period. I will fully cooperate with the FBI in their investigation."

Lawyers, how exactly could a startement like this come back to bite an innocent man?
I wouldn't mention the words "child pornography". Even if you're 100% innocent just saying those words publicly in relation to an investigation is enough to damage an image. I'd say something similar to what you wrote though. Saying exactly what you wrote there is a thousand times better than hiding in silence while your life burns down. again, that's under the assumption he's 100% innocent. If he's not 100% innocent then of course you keep your mouth shut.

 
Jarred: "I've never viewed, owned or solicited child pornography, period. I will fully cooperate with the FBI in their investigation."

Lawyers, how exactly could a startement like this come back to bite an innocent man?
I wouldn't mention the words "child pornography". Even if you're 100% innocent just saying those words publicly in relation to an investigation is enough to damage an image. I'd say something similar to what you wrote though. Saying exactly what you wrote there is a thousand times better than hiding in silence while your life burns down. again, that's under the assumption he's 100% innocent. If he's not 100% innocent then of course you keep your mouth shut.
So someone gave a hypothetical statement categorically denying what you wanted him to deny and you found a problem with it :lmao:

 
Jarred: "I've never viewed, owned or solicited child pornography, period. I will fully cooperate with the FBI in their investigation."

Lawyers, how exactly could a startement like this come back to bite an innocent man?
I wouldn't mention the words "child pornography". Even if you're 100% innocent just saying those words publicly in relation to an investigation is enough to damage an image. I'd say something similar to what you wrote though. Saying exactly what you wrote there is a thousand times better than hiding in silence while your life burns down. again, that's under the assumption he's 100% innocent. If he's not 100% innocent then of course you keep your mouth shut.
:mellow:
 
Jarred: "I've never viewed, owned or solicited child pornography, period. I will fully cooperate with the FBI in their investigation."

Lawyers, how exactly could a startement like this come back to bite an innocent man?
I wouldn't mention the words "child pornography". Even if you're 100% innocent just saying those words publicly in relation to an investigation is enough to damage an image. I'd say something similar to what you wrote though. Saying exactly what you wrote there is a thousand times better than hiding in silence while your life burns down. again, that's under the assumption he's 100% innocent. If he's not 100% innocent then of course you keep your mouth shut.
So someone gave a hypothetical statement categorically denying what you wanted him to deny and you found a problem with it :lmao:
Proclaiming innocence without mentioning the crime is standard protocol. Why would you want the stink of those words on you if you had nothing to do with them?

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
I would too. If I knew I was innocent no way do I sit back in silence.
True story....

As I have posted before...at one time I was in law enforcement.

I went to a Bachelor party one night and two guys took a girl into the bedroom. Fine whatever. Later I had to pee, I go to the bathroom and hear her screaming no, stop, and help. I knock on the door and all I hear is help me, and some sounds that sound like a slap. I knock again, hear muffled sounds. I go cop mode and kick the door in.

This poor girl was getting raped by two guys. I pick her up and carry her upstairs and immediately call 911. I report a rape and the dispatcher asks how I know. I tell the above story and add that I am a police officer and due to the sounds and how the girl is now reacting (Sobbing, shaking, freaking out) that something bad has happened. She is completely naked. I give her clothes out of my back pack.(That I changed out of before golfing)

Fast forward, Police show up...I am detained (in cuffs) back of a police car. Give my statement. My clothes are taken as evidence. Police pick me up 3 days later, and take me to the police station to get additional info.

I know the game, I am freaking the #### out, I told them I wasn't involved, did the right thing and didn't understand why I was being treated like this. I never asked for an attorney(because I was innocent) I advised them to arrest me or let me go.

Never talk to cops.

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
I would too. If I knew I was innocent no way do I sit back in silence.
True story....

As I have posted before...at one time I was in law enforcement.

I went to a Bachelor party one night and two guys took a girl into the bedroom. Fine whatever. Later I had to pee, I go to the bathroom and hear her screaming no, stop, and help. I knock on the door and all I hear is help me, and some sounds that sound like a slap. I knock again, hear muffled sounds. I go cop mode and kick the door in.

This poor girl was getting raped by two guys. I pick her up and carry her upstairs and immediately call 911. I report a rape and the dispatcher asks how I know. I tell the above story and add that I am a police officer and due to the sounds and how the girl is now reacting (Sobbing, shaking, freaking out) that something bad has happened. She is completely naked. I give her clothes out of my back pack.(That I changed out of before golfing)

Fast forward, Police show up...I am detained (in cuffs) back of a police car. Give my statement. My clothes are taken as evidence. Police pick me up 3 days later, and take me to the police station to get additional info.

I know the game, I am freaking the #### out, I told them I wasn't involved, did the right thing and didn't understand why I was being treated like this. I never asked for an attorney(because I was innocent) I advised them to arrest me or let me go.

Never talk to cops.
we're talking about making a public statement, not about talking to cops.

why didn't the girl in the story tell the cops it wasn't you who raped her?

 
Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
I would too. If I knew I was innocent no way do I sit back in silence.
True story....

As I have posted before...at one time I was in law enforcement.

I went to a Bachelor party one night and two guys took a girl into the bedroom. Fine whatever. Later I had to pee, I go to the bathroom and hear her screaming no, stop, and help. I knock on the door and all I hear is help me, and some sounds that sound like a slap. I knock again, hear muffled sounds. I go cop mode and kick the door in.

This poor girl was getting raped by two guys. I pick her up and carry her upstairs and immediately call 911. I report a rape and the dispatcher asks how I know. I tell the above story and add that I am a police officer and due to the sounds and how the girl is now reacting (Sobbing, shaking, freaking out) that something bad has happened. She is completely naked. I give her clothes out of my back pack.(That I changed out of before golfing)

Fast forward, Police show up...I am detained (in cuffs) back of a police car. Give my statement. My clothes are taken as evidence. Police pick me up 3 days later, and take me to the police station to get additional info.

I know the game, I am freaking the #### out, I told them I wasn't involved, did the right thing and didn't understand why I was being treated like this. I never asked for an attorney(because I was innocent) I advised them to arrest me or let me go.

Never talk to cops.
we're talking about making a public statement, not about talking to cops.

why didn't the girl in the story tell the cops it wasn't you who raped her?
I am just saying if the above story came out, I would have not commented to the media, due to it looking pretty sketchy. I have no idea what the girl said, but I testified on her behalf at two trials.

 
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Willie just step away from the keyboard.
I will not. If I'm accused of something I had nothing to do with, I'm ignoring advice of council and taking the stand. (Yes, I'm aware Jared hasn't been charged with anything.)
You're actively ruining a once proud alias.
I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm under public investigation for a horrible crime I 100% had nothing to do with, I tell everyone that I had nothing to do with it. Apparently most here would act differently. People are mistaking someone completely innocent making a proclamation of their innocence with someone who may have some culpability and is silent because they're devising a legal and PR strategy to unveil at a later time.
I would too. If I knew I was innocent no way do I sit back in silence.
True story....

As I have posted before...at one time I was in law enforcement.

I went to a Bachelor party one night and two guys took a girl into the bedroom. Fine whatever. Later I had to pee, I go to the bathroom and hear her screaming no, stop, and help. I knock on the door and all I hear is help me, and some sounds that sound like a slap. I knock again, hear muffled sounds. I go cop mode and kick the door in.

This poor girl was getting raped by two guys. I pick her up and carry her upstairs and immediately call 911. I report a rape and the dispatcher asks how I know. I tell the above story and add that I am a police officer and due to the sounds and how the girl is now reacting (Sobbing, shaking, freaking out) that something bad has happened. She is completely naked. I give her clothes out of my back pack.(That I changed out of before golfing)

Fast forward, Police show up...I am detained (in cuffs) back of a police car. Give my statement. My clothes are taken as evidence. Police pick me up 3 days later, and take me to the police station to get additional info.

I know the game, I am freaking the #### out, I told them I wasn't involved, did the right thing and didn't understand why I was being treated like this. I never asked for an attorney(because I was innocent) I advised them to arrest me or let me go.

Never talk to cops.
Or help chicks getting raped.

 
Jarred: "I've never viewed, owned or solicited child pornography, period. I will fully cooperate with the FBI in their investigation."

Lawyers, how exactly could a startement like this come back to bite an innocent man?
I wouldn't mention the words "child pornography". Even if you're 100% innocent just saying those words publicly in relation to an investigation is enough to damage an image. I'd say something similar to what you wrote though. Saying exactly what you wrote there is a thousand times better than hiding in silence while your life burns down. again, that's under the assumption he's 100% innocent. If he's not 100% innocent then of course you keep your mouth shut.
So someone gave a hypothetical statement categorically denying what you wanted him to deny and you found a problem with it :lmao:
Ex####ingactly! Too funny.

 
Jarred: "I've never viewed, owned or solicited child pornography, period. I will fully cooperate with the FBI in their investigation."

Lawyers, how exactly could a startement like this come back to bite an innocent man?
I wouldn't mention the words "child pornography". Even if you're 100% innocent just saying those words publicly in relation to an investigation is enough to damage an image. I'd say something similar to what you wrote though. Saying exactly what you wrote there is a thousand times better than hiding in silence while your life burns down. again, that's under the assumption he's 100% innocent. If he's not 100% innocent then of course you keep your mouth shut.
So someone gave a hypothetical statement categorically denying what you wanted him to deny and you found a problem with it :lmao:
Ex####ingactly! Too funny.
:lmao:

 
How does he have a 2 months heads up, and 15 million dollars at his disposal and NOT get rid of any and all evidence? There's no way he has anything incriminating left, right?
There are ways of recovering data, I'd bet.

On an unrelated note, I just noticed your picture in your avatar. That's gold.
Sure, if you just put everything into the recycle bin and press empty recycle bin, that stuff can all be recovered.

But with that kind of resources available, there's someone out there that can permanently get rid of stuff. Or just destroy it all for you. "Here's all my harddrives / memory cards / usb drives / hell the computers themselves, take them all to a tire incinerator, thanks"
For someone not sick and twisted enough to look at that crap- makes sense. Get rid of the evidence.

I am thinking for someone that IS that sick and twisted- you can't unsick and untwist yourself and get rid of that stuff. The evidence is what you are twisted into.

Kind of like a drug addict or an alcoholic. To be into something that disgusting, you really have to have something wrong with you. It is not like you have a collection of Playboy that you get rid of before your girlfriend moves in with you. You got something deep in you that is really wrong.

That is the only explanation I can come up with. Either that or he crossed the alien Lizard People Illuminati Overlords and they are setting him up.

 
For someone not sick and twisted enough to look at that crap- makes sense. Get rid of the evidence.

I am thinking for someone that IS that sick and twisted- you can't unsick and untwist yourself and get rid of that stuff. The evidence is what you are twisted into.

Kind of like a drug addict or an alcoholic. To be into something that disgusting, you really have to have something wrong with you. It is not like you have a collection of Playboy that you get rid of before your girlfriend moves in with you. You got something deep in you that is really wrong.

That is the only explanation I can come up with. Either that or he crossed the alien Lizard People Illuminati Overlords and they are setting him up.
:goodposting:

 
He should already be in jail for shilling that sweet onion teriyaki sauce.
It took me five times of trying it to finally give up on it. Each time I would go in there and think...damn..that looks so good. And it would always disappoint.

 
Why hasn't he been arrested?
well, reading the Business Insider article (and not the TMZ article) the FBI doesn't have the actual texts. They have an affidavit from a franchise owner saying what the texts between her and Jared. The affidavit was filled out by the franchise owner 7 years ago as part of a complaint about Jared filed with Subway. The article also mentions the age of consent in Indiana is 16.

It might be a good piece of supporting evidence, but it's no smoking gun.

 
Why hasn't he been arrested?
well, reading the Business Insider article (and not the TMZ article) the FBI doesn't have the actual texts. They have an affidavit from a franchise owner saying what the texts between her and Jared. The affidavit was filled out by the franchise owner 7 years ago as part of a complaint about Jared filed with Subway. The article also mentions the age of consent in Indiana is 16.It might be a good piece of supporting evidence, but it's no smoking gun.
Supporting evidence of what? If they don't have photos of underage girls on his computer then they have nothing.

 
Why hasn't he been arrested?
well, reading the Business Insider article (and not the TMZ article) the FBI doesn't have the actual texts. They have an affidavit from a franchise owner saying what the texts between her and Jared. The affidavit was filled out by the franchise owner 7 years ago as part of a complaint about Jared filed with Subway. The article also mentions the age of consent in Indiana is 16.It might be a good piece of supporting evidence, but it's no smoking gun.
Supporting evidence of what? If they don't have photos of underage girls on his computer then they have nothing.
Maybe true but his no talent money train is over.

 
towney said:
Why hasn't he been arrested?
well, reading the Business Insider article (and not the TMZ article) the FBI doesn't have the actual texts. They have an affidavit from a franchise owner saying what the texts between her and Jared. The affidavit was filled out by the franchise owner 7 years ago as part of a complaint about Jared filed with Subway. The article also mentions the age of consent in Indiana is 16.It might be a good piece of supporting evidence, but it's no smoking gun.
Supporting evidence of what? If they don't have photos of underage girls on his computer then they have nothing.
Maybe true but his no talent money train is over.
I heard that Quiznos is looking to replace their singing rats.

 
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