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Jarrett Boykin (2 Viewers)

Hmm, rethink this?
I don't think rain has much impact on the receiving game and winds between 10-20mph doesn't mean it's constant, just that it may gust up to that level. Those don't sound strong enough to bother a guy like Rodgers.

My biggest concern for Porkins production is GB getting a big lead and trying to grind out the game on the ground.

 
Why not start Boykin over Nicks, Vjax and Bowe. Some already regret not playing him over Fitz. Boykin will outscore Fitz on 1 catch.

Boykin has a realistic shot of 5/70/1 that is WR2/3 all day. I'll be playing him over Nicks, as Nicks has not even sniffed the endzone thru 6 weeks.
What about Nicks targets? Are you not playing PPR?
Well the league in question is a standard league. But none the less, Boykin will get targets.

 
Hmm, rethink this?
I don't think rain has much impact on the receiving game and winds between 10-20mph doesn't mean it's constant, just that it may gust up to that level. Those don't sound strong enough to bother a guy like Rodgers.

My biggest concern for Porkins production is GB getting a big lead and trying to grind out the game on the ground.
Hopefully he's already got a score under his belt by that time.

 
Rain can make the ball slippery but an offensive player usually gets the advantage in footing since he knows where he is going. I still expect low offensive output though for this game.

 
Waffling between Boykins, Marlon Brown, and Kris Durham. Going Durham for now...but not liking any of the 3 really.

Thinking I may go Boykins hoping for a big day out of him...but knowing the risk of him getting next to nothing if it ends up being the Finley, Jordy, and Lacy show.

 
Who are you guys starting Boykin over?
Over Hartline, but really concerned.
Pretty good matchup for Hartline...I have him in over Boykins currently.
I am starting Boykins over Hartline and Edelman. If you are like me and are facing players like P. Manning and Gonzalez in a 1.5 TE PPR league, I think it's worth taking the risk. In other words, if you need to play high risk - reward, Boykins fits the bill. Since when does Rodgers not throw to both starting WRs? I'm not a believer in Finley either, so I see Boykins getting significant targets. The Packers have a decent track record of not playing WRs with hands of stone.

 
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Who are you guys starting Boykin over?
Over Hartline, but really concerned.
Pretty good matchup for Hartline...I have him in over Boykins currently.
I am starting Boykins over Hartline and Edelman. If you are like me and are facing players like P. Manning and Gonzalez in a 1.5 TE PPR league, I think it's worth taking the risk. In other words, if you need to play high risk - reward, Boykins fits the bill. Since when does Rodgers not throw to both starting WRs? I'm not a believer in Finley either, so I see Boykins getting significant targets. The Packers have a decent track record of not playing WRs with hands of stone.
Hey Frank,

this theory always comes up. I can buy it if you had Boykin being this super college stud or maybe he went off for a four TD game in preseason or something. For me it comes back to Hartline is far better than Boykin. I do understand Boykin has this new extra opportunity for himself, but I don't see that he has a better opportunity than Hartline.

For me, here, it's just about fun. It's way more fun to go with Boykin.

 
Who are you guys starting Boykin over?
Over Hartline, but really concerned.
Pretty good matchup for Hartline...I have him in over Boykins currently.
I am starting Boykins over Hartline and Edelman. If you are like me and are facing players like P. Manning and Gonzalez in a 1.5 TE PPR league, I think it's worth taking the risk. In other words, if you need to play high risk - reward, Boykins fits the bill. Since when does Rodgers not throw to both starting WRs? I'm not a believer in Finley either, so I see Boykins getting significant targets. The Packers have a decent track record of not playing WRs with hands of stone.
Hey Frank,

this theory always comes up. I can buy it if you had Boykin being this super college stud or maybe he went off for a four TD game in preseason or something. For me it comes back to Hartline is far better than Boykin. I do understand Boykin has this new extra opportunity for himself, but I don't see that he has a better opportunity than Hartline.

For me, here, it's just about fun. It's way more fun to go with Boykin.
Bri, good points. Hartline is better and has the better matchup. I still wonder if there is something to Rodgers' compliments this week about Boykin. Rodgers isn't one to blow smoke. That said, I'll let Boykins ride my bench this week.

 
With Cobb out until week 15 and Finley and James injured this kid is going to be a nice pickup for the next month or 2. Could be this years WW guy ala Danario Alexander etc ? Watched the whole game and he can definitely play. The #2 or #3 WR on GB is usually a WR2-3 every week.

 
He actually looked really good today. He ran good routes, showed good hands and battled hard to get into the endzone on his TD.

A complete turnaround from last week and it seemed his timing with Rodgers was really good. If Finley is out for any extended period then I think Boykin is solid going forward even when Jones returns.

 
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Who are you guys starting Boykin over?
Over Hartline, but really concerned.
Pretty good matchup for Hartline...I have him in over Boykins currently.
I am starting Boykins over Hartline and Edelman. If you are like me and are facing players like P. Manning and Gonzalez in a 1.5 TE PPR league, I think it's worth taking the risk. In other words, if you need to play high risk - reward, Boykins fits the bill. Since when does Rodgers not throw to both starting WRs? I'm not a believer in Finley either, so I see Boykins getting significant targets. The Packers have a decent track record of not playing WRs with hands of stone.
Hey Frank,

this theory always comes up. I can buy it if you had Boykin being this super college stud or maybe he went off for a four TD game in preseason or something. For me it comes back to Hartline is far better than Boykin. I do understand Boykin has this new extra opportunity for himself, but I don't see that he has a better opportunity than Hartline.

For me, here, it's just about fun. It's way more fun to go with Boykin.
Bri, good points. Hartline is better and has the better matchup. I still wonder if there is something to Rodgers' compliments this week about Boykin. Rodgers isn't one to blow smoke. That said, I'll let Boykins ride my bench this week.
Ouch!

 
He actually looked really good today. He ran good routes, showed good hands and battled hard to get into the endzone on his TD.

A complete turnaround from last week and it seemed his timing with Rodgers was really good. If Finley is out for any extended period then I think Boykin is solid going forward even when Jones returns.
And Rodgers looked his way a lot. Rodgers praised him last October and said he would be a "big time player for us at some point". Boykin was cut from Jacksonville last year. How good can he be if he can't make the Jaguars? :wink:

 
He will be starting for me for the foreseeable future with the bye weeks upcoming for a good majority of my players. I would put him in the same category as a Nicks or Moore type player.

 
He actually looked really good today. He ran good routes, showed good hands and battled hard to get into the endzone on his TD.

A complete turnaround from last week and it seemed his timing with Rodgers was really good. If Finley is out for any extended period then I think Boykin is solid going forward even when Jones returns.
Yeah, he looked night & day compared to last week. Thankfully, because we need all the help we can get with Cobb, Jones & Finley all injured......

 
gradin123 said:
He actually looked really good today. He ran good routes, showed good hands and battled hard to get into the endzone on his TD.

A complete turnaround from last week and it seemed his timing with Rodgers was really good. If Finley is out for any extended period then I think Boykin is solid going forward even when Jones returns.
That week of practice with Rodgers to get their timing better worked wonders.

You could tell early Rodgers wanted to get him involved.

Was a great pickup and play in 2 leagues this week.

With Jones coming back...I see him taking the possession role and being solid in PPR.

 
Even when Jones comes back he will take over for Cobbs role and with Finley out for maybe a few games, his value is still enormous.

Must add in all leagues, or am I wrong. I bet we will still see some yahoo leagues say like 54% or something. lol

 
Even when Jones comes back he will take over for Cobbs role and with Finley out for maybe a few games, his value is still enormous.

Must add in all leagues, or am I wrong. I bet we will still see some yahoo leagues say like 54% or something. lol
FBG has him in the low 60's in the WR ranks in the top 200 going forward this week... i dont get it.... he's at least a wr3 rest of season since he is in the cobb role and is at worst the #3 option in GB passing game when jones gets back... i'm trying to figure out who to keep between him and douglass and the FBG ranks would make it seem like boykin has no upside... doesnt make sense to me at all

 
Even when Jones comes back he will take over for Cobbs role and with Finley out for maybe a few games, his value is still enormous.

Must add in all leagues, or am I wrong. I bet we will still see some yahoo leagues say like 54% or something. lol
FBG has him in the low 60's in the WR ranks in the top 200 going forward this week... i dont get it.... he's at least a wr3 rest of season since he is in the cobb role and is at worst the #3 option in GB passing game when jones gets back... i'm trying to figure out who to keep between him and douglass and the FBG ranks would make it seem like boykin has no upside... doesnt make sense to me at all
FBG is absolutely sloth-like in moving a player up in rankings but will move a player down for a minor injury faster than you can say "overreaction." And so it was, and ever shall it be.

 
Even when Jones comes back he will take over for Cobbs role and with Finley out for maybe a few games, his value is still enormous.

Must add in all leagues, or am I wrong. I bet we will still see some yahoo leagues say like 54% or something. lol
FBG has him in the low 60's in the WR ranks in the top 200 going forward this week... i dont get it.... he's at least a wr3 rest of season since he is in the cobb role and is at worst the #3 option in GB passing game when jones gets back... i'm trying to figure out who to keep between him and douglass and the FBG ranks would make it seem like boykin has no upside... doesnt make sense to me at all
FBG is absolutely sloth-like in moving a player up in rankings but will move a player down for a minor injury faster than you can say "overreaction." And so it was, and ever shall it be.
Unless its Dwayne Bowe. Took them forever to get the hint on the KC passing game this year.

 
Boykin will put up solid WR1/2 numbers over the next couple weeks.
Slow your roll there haus. I would not be ranking him in the top 12-24 based on a game against the Browns.
The Browns are 28th in Fantasy Points Allowed to WRs.
Exactly. So tight coverage on Nelson and Finley gave him the plus matchup.

Not saying don't start him, but to lump him in with Blackmon, Nelson, etc would be asking for a let down.

Be happy with WR3-4 production. Jones will be back this week or next, and they are going to run more against terrible teams. He's a bye week filler unless you are ravaged by injuries. WR12ish is crazy talk.

 
Packers next nine opponents rank 28th, 26th, 30th, 19th, 28th, 27th, 22nd & 29th for most yards given up, as in they give up a ton of yards.

Here is how they rank in fantasy points against in my league (higher ranking = more points given up):

Vikings - 5th

Bears - 12th

Eagles - 1st

Giants - 7th

Vikings - 5th

Lions - 14th

Falcons - 3rd

Cowboys - 13th

In week 16 the Pack face the Steelers in GB. The Steelers give up the 4th fewest passing yards and rank 31st in fantasy points against in my league. So that matchup sucks but otherwise you gotta like the Green Bay passing game for the rest of the season.

 
Bears without Tillman and Briggs as well..so that ranking is sure to go down. They are also using scraps on the D line. Waiver fodder. Could affect either/both Run and Passing offenses. In other words, that ranking is misleading and will be much worse. Not to mention offense will struggle leaving D on field more. They play Pack twice (though most people are done in week 17)

 
kev6873 said:
Bears without Tillman and Briggs as well..so that ranking is sure to go down. They are also using scraps on the D line. Waiver fodder. Could affect either/both Run and Passing offenses. In other words, that ranking is misleading and will be much worse. Not to mention offense will struggle leaving D on field more. They play Pack twice (though most people are done in week 17)
Add in no Cutler and a possible sputtering offense that could give GB even more chances with the ball.

 
Chaka said:
Boykin will put up solid WR1/2 numbers over the next couple weeks.
Slow your roll there haus. I would not be ranking him in the top 12-24 based on a game against the Browns.
The Browns are 28th in Fantasy Points Allowed to WRs.
28th worst or 28th best?

In my league they give up the 23rd fewest fantasy points to WRs.
those kind of blanket stats are somewhat terrible because they don't differentiate between positions on the field.

like if you look at a ranking for points given up to LB -- there's a big difference between a 4-3 mlb and a 3-4 pass rushing olb.

so, in the case of the browns, I think it makes a difference if you're being covered by haden, or skrine, or maybe just in the slot.

I think haden was on nelson, which I imagine would encourage rodgers to target somebody else.

 
jeeb said:
iamkoza said:
Even when Jones comes back he will take over for Cobbs role and with Finley out for maybe a few games, his value is still enormous.

Must add in all leagues, or am I wrong. I bet we will still see some yahoo leagues say like 54% or something. lol
FBG has him in the low 60's in the WR ranks in the top 200 going forward this week... i dont get it.... he's at least a wr3 rest of season since he is in the cobb role and is at worst the #3 option in GB passing game when jones gets back... i'm trying to figure out who to keep between him and douglass and the FBG ranks would make it seem like boykin has no upside... doesnt make sense to me at all
FBG is absolutely sloth-like in moving a player up in rankings but will move a player down for a minor injury faster than you can say "overreaction." And so it was, and ever shall it be.
Mike James jumped up the ladder PDQ

 
Chaka said:
Boykin will put up solid WR1/2 numbers over the next couple weeks.
Slow your roll there haus. I would not be ranking him in the top 12-24 based on a game against the Browns.
The Browns are 28th in Fantasy Points Allowed to WRs.
28th worst or 28th best?

In my league they give up the 23rd fewest fantasy points to WRs.
those kind of blanket stats are somewhat terrible because they don't differentiate between positions on the field.

like if you look at a ranking for points given up to LB -- there's a big difference between a 4-3 mlb and a 3-4 pass rushing olb.

so, in the case of the browns, I think it makes a difference if you're being covered by haden, or skrine, or maybe just in the slot.

I think haden was on nelson, which I imagine would encourage rodgers to target somebody else.
There's a lot going on, Finley is now out also. Does that help or hurt Boykin (and Nelson for that matter?)? I'm presuming it helps both, but maybe being rosey there...

 
subscribers make sure your read Waldman's "Gut Check" for this week. I know what to do with Boykin thanks to that article

 
subscribers make sure your read Waldman's "Gut Check" for this week. I know what to do with Boykin thanks to that article
It was his first start. Even with his flaws he has value in that offense, especially now with Finley out for what looks to be a long while.

 
subscribers make sure your read Waldman's "Gut Check" for this week. I know what to do with Boykin thanks to that article
It was his first start. Even with his flaws he has value in that offense, especially now with Finley out for what looks to be a long while.
First start and a couple mistakes away from a monster game. I see that as kind of a positive, not a negative.

 
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/One-on-One-with-Jarrett-Boykin/2a71e667-bd03-4060-82c8-98feaf6fa9b6 One on One with Jarrett BoykinPosted 3 hours ago

Jarrett Boykin sat down with packers.com Editor Vic Ketchman to provide fans with this look at the Packers' young wide receiver
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Q. What’s it like being a star?

A. Honestly, I don’t really see myself as a star. I see myself as just keep playing, just keep working hard. I don’t overthink all that stuff. I just do what I have to do and all that stuff comes. I just stay away from the stardom. That’s not my main focus. My main focus is to excel on the football field.

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Boykin caught a Virginia Tech single-season
record 61 passes as a senior in 2011 Q. Did you believe this day would come?

A. I think as athletes and competitors we all think and believe one day we can finally get to the point where we can showcase our ability. When? I didn’t know but I just had to keep working every day and, hopefully, one day it would happen.

Q. You were a star at Virginia Tech but you went undrafted. Tough to swallow?

A. Not necessarily tough to swallow because I didn’t look at myself as bigger than what I really was. Like I said, I’m a humble, laid back type of guy. I kind of knew the way it would turn out based on my speed. I just figured let all that go to rest on its own and whenever I get a chance just go out there and try to prove people wrong.

Q. When you were released by the Jaguars?

A. It was very disappointing, frustrating. Like I said, being athletes and competitors you want to go out there and be able to have that chance to go out there and show what you can do. When they let you know that it’s not going to work out, you’re down and thinking what’s next? So I think I waited like a week and got the phone call from Green Bay and was chomping at the bit. Whatever opportunity or whatever they give me I’ll just have to go out there and prove myself. Let it all loose and don’t hold back.

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Boykin was one of four rookie free agents to
make Green Bay's opening day roster in 2012 Q. What were your thoughts during that rookie camp with the Packers?

A. My thoughts were just go out there, play fast, try to finish, make every play that comes my way and do anything that stands out. Hopefully, show them that I really want to get a chance during training camp. It felt good, but you still have to stay hungry because that can only last so long.

Q. Your father died when you were a baby. What was life like growing up without him?

A. I was pretty young so I never really had a chance to get a relationship with him. I grew up knowing my stepfather as my actual father, so it was nothing different, as far as in my household. It was pretty normal, nothing different.

Q. Is speed overrated?

A. Is speed overrated? No, I don’t think so. Speed kills. I would love to have more speed than what I have. I just try to do other things that compensate for it.

Q. What do you envision for yourself as a pro football player?

A. I don’t try to think too far ahead of myself. I really just take it a day at a time. Really, in practice I just take it a play at a time, each day. Like I said, as competitors and athletes you want to be one of the best out there, so you just have to do whatever you can and make sure you can keep getting those opportunities to make a chance to get to that point. Hopefully, I can get to one of those points in my life where someone can actually refer to me as one of the best wide receivers to play.

"I JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE STARDOM. THAT’S NOT MY MAIN FOCUS. MY MAIN FOCUS IS TO EXCEL ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD."

Q. Does this offense suit your skills in a particular way?

A. I don’t really know the differences from other offenses because I haven’t been in their systems but I really love this offense. With an amazing quarterback that can get you the ball, it can only help you thrive. We spread the ball some. As far as Virginia Tech, we run the ball a lot.

Q. What are your goals for your life, not just for football?

A. Just being able to one day sit back and say I accomplished a lot of things and watch my kids growing up and be able to tell them stories about the things I did and watch them accomplish their goals. Beautiful family, wife, home, you know, just the picture perfect everything, but as everyone knows it doesn’t always go that way.

Q. Who’s been the most important person in your life?

A. It’s hard to say because there are a lot of people that have helped contribute. From a football standpoint, the person who was there, trying to get me on the road, was my cousin DeAngelo Lloyd. He went through this whole process and at this point he tried to tell me things that nobody really ever told him when he was coming out or the things he was doing. He would try to give me feedback. Even if you had a good game he would say, “Step it up. I saw that one play; you need to get that together.” It could be the best game you ever had but he was going to be on you. But, of course my dad and my mother and my little brother were always there doing the same thing. They wanted it just as bad as I wanted it.





 
I thought he looked great, esp on the TD, and I was touched by the genuine emotion as he made his first leap into the crowd- he was so excited he jumped about 8 rows deep. I feel great about having him.

 
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